I took a day off work today (have more days left than there are
working days left in the year) to go to the Festool Roadshow at
Highland Woodworking. Well worth the time spent, particularly the
free battery and charger ($145 list). Nice swag!

On 12/7/2017 7:41 PM, wrote:

I took a day off work today (have more days left than there are
working days left in the year) to go to the Festool Roadshow at
Highland Woodworking. Well worth the time spent, particularly the
free battery and charger ($145 list). Nice swag!



It is a great display, we get it this coming Monday. I got a battery
last year hoping for another or a discount on something. Ha. Ha.

Looking closely and seriously at the Kapex... ;~) Nope, I don't need
one, cant justify one, but there times that it might be very helpful.
Seems I always need to make a good clean cut when my TS is set up with a
stacked dado set.

IIRC you have the Bosch glide CMS. 10" or 12"? Anything to share about
that saw? I love the smoothness of the glide and up front controls but
for only 2.5 times the money, LOL, the Kapex offers a lot of perks. In
particular the ease of dialing in the bevel aided with counter balance
so that you don't have a lot of weight to hang on to when adjusting the
bevel. Dial laser indicating the wood that will disappear, small and
relatively lite weight, pretty good dust collection, the angle
finder/setup thingey, and lot's of good reviews. I saw a video of a 7
year old Kapex with dents and dings that gets carried to the jobsite
every day, the carpenter/owner still swears by it. Apparently it fell
out of his truck with no issues resulting.

On Fri, 8 Dec 2017 08:42:48 -0600, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote:

On 12/7/2017 7:41 PM, wrote:

I took a day off work today (have more days left than there are
working days left in the year) to go to the Festool Roadshow at
Highland Woodworking. Well worth the time spent, particularly the
free battery and charger ($145 list). Nice swag!



It is a great display, we get it this coming Monday. I got a battery
last year hoping for another or a discount on something. Ha. Ha.

Looking closely and seriously at the Kapex... ;~) Nope, I don't need
one, cant justify one, but there times that it might be very helpful.
Seems I always need to make a good clean cut when my TS is set up with a
stacked dado set.

I'm looking at one, simply because it takes less room than my Bosch. I
like the Bosch but if I put it on a cabinet, it's *huge*.

IIRC you have the Bosch glide CMS. 10" or 12"? Anything to share about
that saw? I love the smoothness of the glide and up front controls but
for only 2.5 times the money, LOL, the Kapex offers a lot of perks.

Me? No, I have a 12" with the rails sticking out the back (5312, I
think). :-(

In
particular the ease of dialing in the bevel aided with counter balance
so that you don't have a lot of weight to hang on to when adjusting the
bevel. Dial laser indicating the wood that will disappear, small and
relatively lite weight, pretty good dust collection, the angle
finder/setup thingey, and lot's of good reviews. I saw a video of a 7
year old Kapex with dents and dings that gets carried to the jobsite
every day, the carpenter/owner still swears by it. Apparently it fell
out of his truck with no issues resulting.

The dust collection on my Bosch is miserable (read: useless). It
sprays splinters everywhere except into the blade safety cover and
exhaust port. If I replace it, space is my primary motivation with
dust collect a close second.

On 12/8/2017 11:17 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 8 Dec 2017 08:42:48 -0600, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote:

On 12/7/2017 7:41 PM, wrote:

I took a day off work today (have more days left than there are
working days left in the year) to go to the Festool Roadshow at
Highland Woodworking. Well worth the time spent, particularly the
free battery and charger ($145 list). Nice swag!



It is a great display, we get it this coming Monday. I got a battery
last year hoping for another or a discount on something. Ha. Ha.

Looking closely and seriously at the Kapex... ;~) Nope, I don't need
one, cant justify one, but there times that it might be very helpful.
Seems I always need to make a good clean cut when my TS is set up with a
stacked dado set.

I'm looking at one, simply because it takes less room than my Bosch. I
like the Bosch but if I put it on a cabinet, it's *huge*.

THANK YOU! The was my exact thoughts. The Kapex and it's stand and
wings fold up to almost nothing and is very portable. IIRC the Kapex
set up will make repeated cuts up to 94" with the wing extensions extended.



IIRC you have the Bosch glide CMS. 10" or 12"? Anything to share about
that saw? I love the smoothness of the glide and up front controls but
for only 2.5 times the money, LOL, the Kapex offers a lot of perks.

Me? No, I have a 12" with the rails sticking out the back (5312, I
think). :-(

Oh well. ;~)




In
particular the ease of dialing in the bevel aided with counter balance
so that you don't have a lot of weight to hang on to when adjusting the
bevel. Dial laser indicating the wood that will disappear, small and
relatively lite weight, pretty good dust collection, the angle
finder/setup thingey, and lot's of good reviews. I saw a video of a 7
year old Kapex with dents and dings that gets carried to the jobsite
every day, the carpenter/owner still swears by it. Apparently it fell
out of his truck with no issues resulting.

The dust collection on my Bosch is miserable (read: useless). It
sprays splinters everywhere except into the blade safety cover and
exhaust port. If I replace it, space is my primary motivation with
dust collect a close second.


I'm right there with you on those thoughts. I want the saw to be easily
moved, set up, and take up little space when not in use.

Have you seen this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgAkF733INM

This one shows the caps for the extensions and how it all fits together.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHN4xGvKGRc

And this one seems to prove the saw will hold up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpYal6minkE

On Fri, 8 Dec 2017 17:37:50 -0600, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote:

On 12/8/2017 11:17 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 8 Dec 2017 08:42:48 -0600, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote:

On 12/7/2017 7:41 PM, wrote:

I took a day off work today (have more days left than there are
working days left in the year) to go to the Festool Roadshow at
Highland Woodworking. Well worth the time spent, particularly the
free battery and charger ($145 list). Nice swag!



It is a great display, we get it this coming Monday. I got a battery
last year hoping for another or a discount on something. Ha. Ha.

Looking closely and seriously at the Kapex... ;~) Nope, I don't need
one, cant justify one, but there times that it might be very helpful.
Seems I always need to make a good clean cut when my TS is set up with a
stacked dado set.

I'm looking at one, simply because it takes less room than my Bosch. I
like the Bosch but if I put it on a cabinet, it's *huge*.

THANK YOU! The was my exact thoughts. The Kapex and it's stand and
wings fold up to almost nothing and is very portable. IIRC the Kapex
set up will make repeated cuts up to 94" with the wing extensions extended.

I was at work when I posted the above, so just to elaborate a
little...

The back of the fence has to be 26" from the wall, so if I allowed for
a 12" board, it makes the bench 38" wide, both on the left and right
sides of the saw. The saw itself is 44" from front to back. So...
If I make a cabinet for it, it'll be something like 3' to 3'6" by 16
feet. I have the space, but it pushes other stuff further away.


IIRC you have the Bosch glide CMS. 10" or 12"? Anything to share about
that saw? I love the smoothness of the glide and up front controls but
for only 2.5 times the money, LOL, the Kapex offers a lot of perks.

Me? No, I have a 12" with the rails sticking out the back (5312, I
think). :-(

Oh well. ;~)

That was a Bosch 5312, BTW (sorry, I wasn't clear).

In
particular the ease of dialing in the bevel aided with counter balance
so that you don't have a lot of weight to hang on to when adjusting the
bevel. Dial laser indicating the wood that will disappear, small and
relatively lite weight, pretty good dust collection, the angle
finder/setup thingey, and lot's of good reviews. I saw a video of a 7
year old Kapex with dents and dings that gets carried to the jobsite
every day, the carpenter/owner still swears by it. Apparently it fell
out of his truck with no issues resulting.

The dust collection on my Bosch is miserable (read: useless). It
sprays splinters everywhere except into the blade safety cover and
exhaust port. If I replace it, space is my primary motivation with
dust collect a close second.


I'm right there with you on those thoughts. I want the saw to be easily
moved, set up, and take up little space when not in use.

I'm not so interested in moving it. I have a HF 10" CMS that works
well enough for things I'd want to do outside (I have to do some
siding in the spring).

Have you seen this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgAkF733INM

Yes, I've seen it. I can see where it would be perfect for a
carpenter, where portability and setup time is a priority. I have one
of these, with an extra set of mounting hardware so I can use it with
either the Bosch or HF.

http://www.dewalt.com/products/accessories/tool-accessories/saw-accessories/miter-saw-accessories-and-stands/heavy-duty-miter-saw-stand/dwx723

However, I'm not at all happy with the rigidity of any of the Festool
stands/tables. IMO, the router table is simply dangerous and I don't
need portable. I'd rather have storage space.

This one shows the caps for the extensions and how it all fits together.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHN4xGvKGRc

And this one seems to prove the saw will hold up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpYal6minkE

AIUI, there have also been problems with Kapexes (Kapi?) burning up.
There is pretty consistent chatter on the FOG about this. FWIG by
reading the FOG is that Festool didn't handle the situation well,
either. Dunno, $1500 is a bunch of money/

On 12/8/2017 8:17 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 8 Dec 2017 17:37:50 -0600, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote:

On 12/8/2017 11:17 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 8 Dec 2017 08:42:48 -0600, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote:

On 12/7/2017 7:41 PM, wrote:

I took a day off work today (have more days left than there are
working days left in the year) to go to the Festool Roadshow at
Highland Woodworking. Well worth the time spent, particularly the
free battery and charger ($145 list). Nice swag!



It is a great display, we get it this coming Monday. I got a battery
last year hoping for another or a discount on something. Ha. Ha.

Looking closely and seriously at the Kapex... ;~) Nope, I don't need
one, cant justify one, but there times that it might be very helpful.
Seems I always need to make a good clean cut when my TS is set up with a
stacked dado set.

I'm looking at one, simply because it takes less room than my Bosch. I
like the Bosch but if I put it on a cabinet, it's *huge*.

THANK YOU! The was my exact thoughts. The Kapex and it's stand and
wings fold up to almost nothing and is very portable. IIRC the Kapex
set up will make repeated cuts up to 94" with the wing extensions extended.

I was at work when I posted the above, so just to elaborate a
little...

NP


The back of the fence has to be 26" from the wall, so if I allowed for
a 12" board, it makes the bench 38" wide, both on the left and right
sides of the saw. The saw itself is 44" from front to back. So...
If I make a cabinet for it, it'll be something like 3' to 3'6" by 16
feet. I have the space, but it pushes other stuff further away.


Been there done that with a non slider and did not like the real estate
that the bench took up when not in use.


IIRC you have the Bosch glide CMS. 10" or 12"? Anything to share about
that saw? I love the smoothness of the glide and up front controls but
for only 2.5 times the money, LOL, the Kapex offers a lot of perks.

Me? No, I have a 12" with the rails sticking out the back (5312, I
think). :-(

Oh well. ;~)

That was a Bosch 5312, BTW (sorry, I wasn't clear).

Not a problem, thanks.



In
particular the ease of dialing in the bevel aided with counter balance
so that you don't have a lot of weight to hang on to when adjusting the
bevel. Dial laser indicating the wood that will disappear, small and
relatively lite weight, pretty good dust collection, the angle
finder/setup thingey, and lot's of good reviews. I saw a video of a 7
year old Kapex with dents and dings that gets carried to the jobsite
every day, the carpenter/owner still swears by it. Apparently it fell
out of his truck with no issues resulting.

The dust collection on my Bosch is miserable (read: useless). It
sprays splinters everywhere except into the blade safety cover and
exhaust port. If I replace it, space is my primary motivation with
dust collect a close second.


I'm right there with you on those thoughts. I want the saw to be easily
moved, set up, and take up little space when not in use.

I'm not so interested in moving it. I have a HF 10" CMS that works
well enough for things I'd want to do outside (I have to do some
siding in the spring).

Everything in my shop is mobile regardless of size. I find that I move
every thing to an optimum spot for use. Same would go for the miter saw
and because most miter saw stations are relatively permanent if you want
to be able to make long repeated cuts the Kapex set up fits the bill for
me. Yes I could get pretty damn good for less than half price but
space, even in a 3 car garage, is beginning to shrink. No room for a
permanent station.




Have you seen this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgAkF733INM

Yes, I've seen it. I can see where it would be perfect for a
carpenter, where portability and setup time is a priority. I have one
of these, with an extra set of mounting hardware so I can use it with
either the Bosch or HF.

http://www.dewalt.com/products/accessories/tool-accessories/saw-accessories/miter-saw-accessories-and-stands/heavy-duty-miter-saw-stand/dwx723

Looks good but kinda hard to move around on a whim. ;~)



However, I'm not at all happy with the rigidity of any of the Festool
stands/tables. IMO, the router table is simply dangerous and I don't
need portable. I'd rather have storage space.

Understood! But the saw needs to be rigid more so than the stand. The
Festool extensions only have to hold a board up and provide a repeatable
stop. BUT i'll try one out at the Festool road show on Monday.
Actually my local Woodcraft recently switched to the Kapex set up in its
lumber section. I could probably try that one too.





This one shows the caps for the extensions and how it all fits together.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHN4xGvKGRc

And this one seems to prove the saw will hold up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpYal6minkE

AIUI, there have also been problems with Kapexes (Kapi?) burning up.
There is pretty consistent chatter on the FOG about this. FWIG by
reading the FOG is that Festool didn't handle the situation well,
either. Dunno, $1500 is a bunch of money/


I have not heard about burning up problems, I do know the early ones had
an issue with changing the miter angle. I'll have to look into that
too. $1500 is a bunch of money, but I think I would be more likely to
drag the assembly out and use it over another set up.

Thanks for the info!

On Friday, December 8, 2017 at 9:43:06 AM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
On 12/7/2017 7:41 PM, wrote:

I took a day off work today (have more days left than there are
working days left in the year) to go to the Festool Roadshow at
Highland Woodworking. Well worth the time spent, particularly the
free battery and charger ($145 list). Nice swag!



It is a great display, we get it this coming Monday. I got a battery
last year hoping for another or a discount on something. Ha. Ha.

Looking closely and seriously at the Kapex... ;~) Nope, I don't need
one, cant justify one, but there times that it might be very helpful.
Seems I always need to make a good clean cut when my TS is set up with a
stacked dado set.

IIRC you have the Bosch glide CMS. 10" or 12"? Anything to share about
that saw? I love the smoothness of the glide and up front controls but
for only 2.5 times the money, LOL, the Kapex offers a lot of perks. In
particular the ease of dialing in the bevel aided with counter balance
so that you don't have a lot of weight to hang on to when adjusting the
bevel. Dial laser indicating the wood that will disappear, small and
relatively lite weight, pretty good dust collection, the angle
finder/setup thingey, and lot's of good reviews. I saw a video of a 7
year old Kapex with dents and dings that gets carried to the jobsite
every day, the carpenter/owner still swears by it. Apparently it fell
out of his truck with no issues resulting.

Tis I that has the Bosch 10" Glide. You may recall that the first one I
received was faulty, leaving teeth marks as the blade spun down.

https://i.imgur.com/sGJYoVf.jpg

The replacement unit (easily accomplished through Amazon) is fine.

I wish I could offer an in-depth review, but I don't have much to compare it
to. My previous CMS was a 20+ YO low-end Delta. I haven't had the need to
do much (if any) in the way of compound cuts, mainly crosscuts with some 45°
every now and then. Works just fine for that. I mainly needed the glide
feature because of space limitations.

At 67 lbs, I wouldn't exactly call it portable.

Dust collection? Again, the only thing I can compare it to is the old Delta..
Compared to that, it's operating room ready. ;-) I did a test just for you
guys. I vacuumed all around the saw and then crosscut a piece of 1 x 8 poplar.

On the left is with the vacuum off. There's noticeably less sawdust on the
right, but the biggest difference is the cleanliness of my lungs. No spray
of sawdust in my face.

https://i.imgur.com/YhJv0wW.jpg

One of the first things I did was make a zero clearance insert. The two
piece insert that came with the saw was a joke. The gap was at least 1/2"
wide.

Based on my limited opportunity to compare it to anything other than my old
Delta, I'm satisfied with the Bosch. I used a 12" Dewalt slider a few months
ago in the workshop of the farm SWMBO works at, but that didn't count.
Someone used it to cut live branches, so all it did was burn it's way
through the wood I was trying to cut. (There was a sheep shearing exhibition
in the barn that the workshop is attached to. I convinced them not to
evacuate when the saw set off the smoke detectors in the workshop. Seriously.)

On 12/8/2017 7:41 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Friday, December 8, 2017 at 9:43:06 AM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
On 12/7/2017 7:41 PM, wrote:

I took a day off work today (have more days left than there are
working days left in the year) to go to the Festool Roadshow at
Highland Woodworking. Well worth the time spent, particularly the
free battery and charger ($145 list). Nice swag!



It is a great display, we get it this coming Monday. I got a battery
last year hoping for another or a discount on something. Ha. Ha.

Looking closely and seriously at the Kapex... ;~) Nope, I don't need
one, cant justify one, but there times that it might be very helpful.
Seems I always need to make a good clean cut when my TS is set up with a
stacked dado set.

IIRC you have the Bosch glide CMS. 10" or 12"? Anything to share about
that saw? I love the smoothness of the glide and up front controls but
for only 2.5 times the money, LOL, the Kapex offers a lot of perks. In
particular the ease of dialing in the bevel aided with counter balance
so that you don't have a lot of weight to hang on to when adjusting the
bevel. Dial laser indicating the wood that will disappear, small and
relatively lite weight, pretty good dust collection, the angle
finder/setup thingey, and lot's of good reviews. I saw a video of a 7
year old Kapex with dents and dings that gets carried to the jobsite
every day, the carpenter/owner still swears by it. Apparently it fell
out of his truck with no issues resulting.

Tis I that has the Bosch 10" Glide. You may recall that the first one I
received was faulty, leaving teeth marks as the blade spun down.

I stand corrected, and you have a tooth blade problem with several of
your blades. :!) One day you will venture out and get a Forrest WWII.
I switched to that blade in 1999 and have not looked back. If the stock
is flat and straight I get no tooth marks, often burnished. BUT you
have to have a robust saw also.



https://i.imgur.com/sGJYoVf.jpg

The replacement unit (easily accomplished through Amazon) is fine.

I wish I could offer an in-depth review, but I don't have much to compare it
to. My previous CMS was a 20+ YO low-end Delta. I haven't had the need to
do much (if any) in the way of compound cuts, mainly crosscuts with some 45°
every now and then. Works just fine for that. I mainly needed the glide
feature because of space limitations.

Ahh the Delta, I have one that is about that age, maybe older. It is a
12 CMS. Freaky loud and cranky. When I got my first cabinet saw and
Forrest WWII I immediately retired the Delta. I have used it a time or
two since. I miss having a miter saw when I need to make a good clean
cut and the TS is set up for something else.



At 67 lbs, I wouldn't exactly call it portable.

No, and an advantage to the Kapex is it's 47 lbs. PLUS it's compact
size and nothing slides past the back of the saw, much like the Bosch Glide.


Dust collection? Again, the only thing I can compare it to is the old Delta.
Compared to that, it's operating room ready. ;-) I did a test just for you
guys. I vacuumed all around the saw and then crosscut a piece of 1 x 8 poplar.

On the left is with the vacuum off. There's noticeably less sawdust on the
right, but the biggest difference is the cleanliness of my lungs. No spray
of sawdust in my face.

https://i.imgur.com/YhJv0wW.jpg

Thanks for reposting.

One of the first things I did was make a zero clearance insert. The two
piece insert that came with the saw was a joke. The gap was at least 1/2"
wide.

Based on my limited opportunity to compare it to anything other than my old
Delta, I'm satisfied with the Bosch. I used a 12" Dewalt slider a few months
ago in the workshop of the farm SWMBO works at, but that didn't count.
Someone used it to cut live branches, so all it did was burn it's way
through the wood I was trying to cut. (There was a sheep shearing exhibition
in the barn that the workshop is attached to. I convinced them not to
evacuate when the saw set off the smoke detectors in the workshop. Seriously.)

On Fri, 8 Dec 2017 20:41:38 -0600, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote:

On 12/8/2017 7:41 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Friday, December 8, 2017 at 9:43:06 AM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
On 12/7/2017 7:41 PM, wrote:

I took a day off work today (have more days left than there are
working days left in the year) to go to the Festool Roadshow at
Highland Woodworking. Well worth the time spent, particularly the
free battery and charger ($145 list). Nice swag!



It is a great display, we get it this coming Monday. I got a battery
last year hoping for another or a discount on something. Ha. Ha.

Looking closely and seriously at the Kapex... ;~) Nope, I don't need
one, cant justify one, but there times that it might be very helpful.
Seems I always need to make a good clean cut when my TS is set up with a
stacked dado set.

IIRC you have the Bosch glide CMS. 10" or 12"? Anything to share about
that saw? I love the smoothness of the glide and up front controls but
for only 2.5 times the money, LOL, the Kapex offers a lot of perks. In
particular the ease of dialing in the bevel aided with counter balance
so that you don't have a lot of weight to hang on to when adjusting the
bevel. Dial laser indicating the wood that will disappear, small and
relatively lite weight, pretty good dust collection, the angle
finder/setup thingey, and lot's of good reviews. I saw a video of a 7
year old Kapex with dents and dings that gets carried to the jobsite
every day, the carpenter/owner still swears by it. Apparently it fell
out of his truck with no issues resulting.

Tis I that has the Bosch 10" Glide. You may recall that the first one I
received was faulty, leaving teeth marks as the blade spun down.

I stand corrected, and you have a tooth blade problem with several of
your blades. :!) One day you will venture out and get a Forrest WWII.
I switched to that blade in 1999 and have not looked back. If the stock
is flat and straight I get no tooth marks, often burnished. BUT you
have to have a robust saw also.

I believe the "ChopMaster" is set up for a SCMS. Is there a 12" WWII?

On 12/8/2017 9:02 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 8 Dec 2017 20:41:38 -0600, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote:

On 12/8/2017 7:41 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Friday, December 8, 2017 at 9:43:06 AM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
On 12/7/2017 7:41 PM, wrote:

I took a day off work today (have more days left than there are
working days left in the year) to go to the Festool Roadshow at
Highland Woodworking. Well worth the time spent, particularly the
free battery and charger ($145 list). Nice swag!



It is a great display, we get it this coming Monday. I got a battery
last year hoping for another or a discount on something. Ha. Ha.

Looking closely and seriously at the Kapex... ;~) Nope, I don't need
one, cant justify one, but there times that it might be very helpful.
Seems I always need to make a good clean cut when my TS is set up with a
stacked dado set.

IIRC you have the Bosch glide CMS. 10" or 12"? Anything to share about
that saw? I love the smoothness of the glide and up front controls but
for only 2.5 times the money, LOL, the Kapex offers a lot of perks. In
particular the ease of dialing in the bevel aided with counter balance
so that you don't have a lot of weight to hang on to when adjusting the
bevel. Dial laser indicating the wood that will disappear, small and
relatively lite weight, pretty good dust collection, the angle
finder/setup thingey, and lot's of good reviews. I saw a video of a 7
year old Kapex with dents and dings that gets carried to the jobsite
every day, the carpenter/owner still swears by it. Apparently it fell
out of his truck with no issues resulting.

Tis I that has the Bosch 10" Glide. You may recall that the first one I
received was faulty, leaving teeth marks as the blade spun down.

I stand corrected, and you have a tooth blade problem with several of
your blades. :!) One day you will venture out and get a Forrest WWII.
I switched to that blade in 1999 and have not looked back. If the stock
is flat and straight I get no tooth marks, often burnished. BUT you
have to have a robust saw also.

I believe the "ChopMaster" is set up for a SCMS. Is there a 12" WWII?


Yes there is a 12" WWII and quite pricey. AND Yes, the ChopMaster
would be the correct blade for the MS.

On Friday, December 8, 2017 at 9:02:16 PM UTC-6, wrote:


I believe the "ChopMaster" is set up for a SCMS. Is there a 12" WWII?

https://www.forrestblades.com/woodwo...or-table-saws/

On Friday, December 8, 2017 at 9:41:56 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
On 12/8/2017 7:41 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Friday, December 8, 2017 at 9:43:06 AM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
On 12/7/2017 7:41 PM, wrote:

I took a day off work today (have more days left than there are
working days left in the year) to go to the Festool Roadshow at
Highland Woodworking. Well worth the time spent, particularly the
free battery and charger ($145 list). Nice swag!



It is a great display, we get it this coming Monday. I got a battery
last year hoping for another or a discount on something. Ha. Ha.

Looking closely and seriously at the Kapex... ;~) Nope, I don't need
one, cant justify one, but there times that it might be very helpful.
Seems I always need to make a good clean cut when my TS is set up with a
stacked dado set.

IIRC you have the Bosch glide CMS. 10" or 12"? Anything to share about
that saw? I love the smoothness of the glide and up front controls but
for only 2.5 times the money, LOL, the Kapex offers a lot of perks. In
particular the ease of dialing in the bevel aided with counter balance
so that you don't have a lot of weight to hang on to when adjusting the
bevel. Dial laser indicating the wood that will disappear, small and
relatively lite weight, pretty good dust collection, the angle
finder/setup thingey, and lot's of good reviews. I saw a video of a 7
year old Kapex with dents and dings that gets carried to the jobsite
every day, the carpenter/owner still swears by it. Apparently it fell
out of his truck with no issues resulting.

Tis I that has the Bosch 10" Glide. You may recall that the first one I
received was faulty, leaving teeth marks as the blade spun down.

I stand corrected, and you have a tooth blade problem with several of
your blades. :!) One day you will venture out and get a Forrest WWII.
I switched to that blade in 1999 and have not looked back. If the stock
is flat and straight I get no tooth marks, often burnished. BUT you
have to have a robust saw also.



I'm not sure what you are saying there. The image below is from the first
glide saw I received from Amazon. The marks were there regardless of the
blade used, even ones that worked fine on the old Delta. (I tried 3 different
blades on the Bosch just to be sure it wasn't the Bosch blade that came with
the saw.)

Once the saw itself was swapped out, that "tooth gouge" was gone. The saw
was definitely defective.


https://i.imgur.com/sGJYoVf.jpg

The replacement unit (easily accomplished through Amazon) is fine.

I wish I could offer an in-depth review, but I don't have much to compare it
to. My previous CMS was a 20+ YO low-end Delta. I haven't had the need to
do much (if any) in the way of compound cuts, mainly crosscuts with some 45°
every now and then. Works just fine for that. I mainly needed the glide
feature because of space limitations.

Ahh the Delta, I have one that is about that age, maybe older. It is a
12 CMS. Freaky loud and cranky. When I got my first cabinet saw and
Forrest WWII I immediately retired the Delta. I have used it a time or
two since. I miss having a miter saw when I need to make a good clean
cut and the TS is set up for something else.



At 67 lbs, I wouldn't exactly call it portable.

No, and an advantage to the Kapex is it's 47 lbs. PLUS it's compact
size and nothing slides past the back of the saw, much like the Bosch Glide.


Dust collection? Again, the only thing I can compare it to is the old Delta.
Compared to that, it's operating room ready. ;-) I did a test just for you
guys. I vacuumed all around the saw and then crosscut a piece of 1 x 8 poplar.

On the left is with the vacuum off. There's noticeably less sawdust on the
right, but the biggest difference is the cleanliness of my lungs. No spray
of sawdust in my face.

https://i.imgur.com/YhJv0wW.jpg

Thanks for reposting.

One of the first things I did was make a zero clearance insert. The two
piece insert that came with the saw was a joke. The gap was at least 1/2"
wide.

Based on my limited opportunity to compare it to anything other than my old
Delta, I'm satisfied with the Bosch. I used a 12" Dewalt slider a few months
ago in the workshop of the farm SWMBO works at, but that didn't count.
Someone used it to cut live branches, so all it did was burn it's way
through the wood I was trying to cut. (There was a sheep shearing exhibition
in the barn that the workshop is attached to. I convinced them not to
evacuate when the saw set off the smoke detectors in the workshop. Seriously.)

On 12/8/2017 9:08 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Friday, December 8, 2017 at 9:41:56 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
On 12/8/2017 7:41 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Friday, December 8, 2017 at 9:43:06 AM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
On 12/7/2017 7:41 PM, wrote:

I took a day off work today (have more days left than there are
working days left in the year) to go to the Festool Roadshow at
Highland Woodworking. Well worth the time spent, particularly the
free battery and charger ($145 list). Nice swag!



It is a great display, we get it this coming Monday. I got a battery
last year hoping for another or a discount on something. Ha. Ha.

Looking closely and seriously at the Kapex... ;~) Nope, I don't need
one, cant justify one, but there times that it might be very helpful.
Seems I always need to make a good clean cut when my TS is set up with a
stacked dado set.

IIRC you have the Bosch glide CMS. 10" or 12"? Anything to share about
that saw? I love the smoothness of the glide and up front controls but
for only 2.5 times the money, LOL, the Kapex offers a lot of perks. In
particular the ease of dialing in the bevel aided with counter balance
so that you don't have a lot of weight to hang on to when adjusting the
bevel. Dial laser indicating the wood that will disappear, small and
relatively lite weight, pretty good dust collection, the angle
finder/setup thingey, and lot's of good reviews. I saw a video of a 7
year old Kapex with dents and dings that gets carried to the jobsite
every day, the carpenter/owner still swears by it. Apparently it fell
out of his truck with no issues resulting.

Tis I that has the Bosch 10" Glide. You may recall that the first one I
received was faulty, leaving teeth marks as the blade spun down.

I stand corrected, and you have a tooth blade problem with several of
your blades. :!) One day you will venture out and get a Forrest WWII.
I switched to that blade in 1999 and have not looked back. If the stock
is flat and straight I get no tooth marks, often burnished. BUT you
have to have a robust saw also.



I'm not sure what you are saying there. The image below is from the first
glide saw I received from Amazon. The marks were there regardless of the
blade used, even ones that worked fine on the old Delta. (I tried 3 different
blades on the Bosch just to be sure it wasn't the Bosch blade that came with
the saw.)

Once the saw itself was swapped out, that "tooth gouge" was gone. The saw
was definitely defective.

Understood but you had that issue and IIRC a recent issue with some
cheap blades cutting plywood.