A few weeks ago I mentioned that I was going to begin building the
office library file cabinets and book shelves.
On Wednesday I loaded up on white oak s4s 1x8, 150 linear feet, and a
sheet of cherry 3/4" plywood.

I cut the cherry first thing and use the track saw to cut the sheet into
manageable sizes along with some finish cuts.

Several years ago I, and Swingman, ordered a Betterly Straight Line
connector. This blue tool insures that two or more tracks that are
combined end up being straight. It takes longer to pull the tool out of
the box than to set it up to insure straight unions.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb112...posted-public/

After cutting the sheet of cherry I moved on to cutting dados, tenons,
Domino mortises, and groves for the front and back face frames for the
two file cabinets. Also dados for the cherry plywood sides.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb112...posted-public/

And close up of how the back face frame pieces go together.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb112...posted-public/

Right now all 16 pieces are in the clamps.

I'll keep you posted as things progress. I am changing up how I index
the drawer divider rails and slides.

On Saturday, February 4, 2017 at 5:02:03 PM UTC-6, Leon wrote:


Several years ago I, and Swingman, ordered a Betterly Straight Line
connector. This blue tool insures that two or more tracks that are
combined end up being straight. It takes longer to pull the tool out of
the box than to set it up to insure straight unions.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb112...posted-public/

I remember talking to Swingman about that after he got his. It came up when he showed me the genius add he put on his track arrangement for his Festool to help manipulate the guide more accurately. After we talked about the track alignment tool, I found out it was available for other brands or track as well as he was able to get one for his DeWalt saw. He love it as he doesn't have to fiddle around with any adjustments, just make up his connections and go.

I'll keep you posted as things progress. I am changing up how I index
the drawer divider rails and slides.

Since you already skinned that cat so well, I am interested to see where you are going with that.

BTW, did you ever find the library/sliding ladder hardware you were looking for?
I remember a lot of ideas flying around, but no final decisions.

Robert

On 2/6/2017 2:10 AM, wrote:
On Saturday, February 4, 2017 at 5:02:03 PM UTC-6, Leon wrote:


Several years ago I, and Swingman, ordered a Betterly Straight Line
connector. This blue tool insures that two or more tracks that
are combined end up being straight. It takes longer to pull the
tool out of the box than to set it up to insure straight unions.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb112...posted-public/


I remember talking to Swingman about that after he got his. It came
up when he showed me the genius add he put on his track arrangement
for his Festool to help manipulate the guide more accurately. After
we talked about the track alignment tool, I found out it was
available for other brands or track as well as he was able to get one
for his DeWalt saw. He love it as he doesn't have to fiddle around
with any adjustments, just make up his connections and go.

I thought it might work on other tracks as I think some saws will work
with other tracks.




I'll keep you posted as things progress. I am changing up how I
index the drawer divider rails and slides.

Since you already skinned that cat so well, I am interested to see
where you are going with that.

The one on the left, cherry and white oak.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb112...posted-public/



BTW, did you ever find the library/sliding ladder hardware you were
looking for? I remember a lot of ideas flying around, but no final
decisions.

Yes! I found plenty but a friggen ladder and the hardware will cost as
much as the file cabinet/shelving unit.

Sooooo. It think I am going to do something like this.


https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb112...posted-public/

On Monday, February 6, 2017 at 9:00:02 AM UTC-6, Leon wrote:

I thought it might work on other tracks as I think some saws will work
with other tracks.

Don't know that for sure, but I think you are right about some tracks working with other saws. Could be a woodworking myth/legend though, as I don't know anyone that has interchanged their use.

The one on the left, cherry and white oak.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb112...posted-public/

The cab farthest left with the light valance is existing, no? Will the new match the old, or are you going for different/complimentary styles?


BTW, did you ever find the library/sliding ladder hardware you were
looking for? I remember a lot of ideas flying around, but no final
decisions.

Yes! I found plenty but a friggen ladder and the hardware will cost as
much as the file cabinet/shelving unit.

Sooooo. It think I am going to do something like this.


https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb112...posted-public/

I remember joining the hunt for the hardware and it was indeed nasty as far as pricing went. I remember that photo... does the ladder simply lean on the rail up top or does it hook in some way?

Robert

On 2/6/2017 4:06 PM, wrote:
On Monday, February 6, 2017 at 9:00:02 AM UTC-6, Leon wrote:

I thought it might work on other tracks as I think some saws will
work with other tracks.

Don't know that for sure, but I think you are right about some tracks
working with other saws. Could be a woodworking myth/legend though,
as I don't know anyone that has interchanged their use.

I have a DeWalt right angle attachment, for the DeWalt tracks, that fits
my Festool Track. I would assume the other parts interchange, maybe not.



The one on the left, cherry and white oak.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb112...posted-public/


The cab farthest left with the light valance is existing, no? Will
the new match the old, or are you going for different/complimentary
styles?

Yes the forward left "desk" does exist now, leaning on it right now.
:!) It is currently on the west wall facing east. I am going to clock
it 90 degrees to the south wall facing north. The new cabinets will be
on the north wall and face south and or the desk.
Same wood, same basic style.

Here, but they will actually face each other on opposite sides of the
room. I thought that it was going to be overwhelming but you will not
actually see it from the entry hall. You will only see the desk from
the hall but when you walk into the office and turn around to
exit, surprise!

https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb112...posted-public/




BTW, did you ever find the library/sliding ladder hardware you
were looking for? I remember a lot of ideas flying around, but no
final decisions.

Yes! I found plenty but a friggen ladder and the hardware will
cost as much as the file cabinet/shelving unit.

Sooooo. It think I am going to do something like this.


https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb112...posted-public/


I remember joining the hunt for the hardware and it was indeed nasty
as far as pricing went. I remember that photo... does the ladder
simply lean on the rail up top or does it hook in some way?

That ladder is in a tourist shop in Rock Port. It only leans against
the bar but it would be easy enough to have it hook. I will probably
simply pick it up and move it to where I want it.
Either way, having a simple ladder will be relative inexpensive so if I
don't like it I can probably retro fit it with hardware.

IIRC hardware is about $1,200. I might be able to forgo the top steel
rails and fancy roller hooks at the top rails and just get the wheel set
up. THAT would be a lot less expensive.

Thanks for the mention of the shears again. If I ever do siding again
I'll build it into the price. ;~) I replaced most of the Masonite
fiber board that came on our first home and I think Bryan had the
balance replaced when he had the roof replaced. Sections above the
short roof sections in the front and back of the house. I used a
carbide tooth blade to cut that. About 12 years ago I built a store
room and use Hardi and used the diamond blade on that job, and there was
duuuuuust. ;~)

He had some facia replaced and learned that the life time aluminum roof,
that Kim and I had installed 20+ years ago, was leaking. And of course
Alcoa no longer stood behind that product. It looked like cedar
shingles and could not be repaired.
Insurance paid to replace the whole thing and they paid him 5 times more
than I paid to have it installed. Good investment! He ended up getting
a 50 year parts and labor GAF composition shingle roof for 1/4 of what
the insurance company paid him......

On 2/6/17 5:09 PM, Leon wrote:

IIRC hardware is about $1,200. I might be able to forgo the top steel
rails and fancy roller hooks at the top rails and just get the wheel set
up. THAT would be a lot less expensive.


I'm sure you have already seen this stuff:
http://www.rockler.com/search/go?w=l...uuid=&sli_sid=

I was thinking about a rollign ladder for a high platform in my wife;s
studio, but the prices were just to much. A step ladder solves the
problem and takes up less room...

-BR

On 2/11/2017 8:52 AM, Brewster wrote:
On 2/6/17 5:09 PM, Leon wrote:

IIRC hardware is about $1,200. I might be able to forgo the top steel
rails and fancy roller hooks at the top rails and just get the wheel set
up. THAT would be a lot less expensive.


I'm sure you have already seen this stuff:
http://www.rockler.com/search/go?w=l...uuid=&sli_sid=

I was thinking about a rollign ladder for a high platform in my wife;s
studio, but the prices were just to much. A step ladder solves the
problem and takes up less room...


Yes I saw that and the low prices are a bit deceiving.

You have to choose the wheel type, some lock, some are a different color
or style.
You add the top latch mechanism.
You add the multiple roller bars.
You add the bar caps.
You add the stand off brackets.
You add the hardware to hold the wooden parts together...

;~) A lot of adding..

On Saturday, February 11, 2017 at 11:17:24 AM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
On 2/11/2017 8:52 AM, Brewster wrote:
On 2/6/17 5:09 PM, Leon wrote:

IIRC hardware is about $1,200. I might be able to forgo the top steel
rails and fancy roller hooks at the top rails and just get the wheel set
up. THAT would be a lot less expensive.


I'm sure you have already seen this stuff:
http://www.rockler.com/search/go?w=l...uuid=&sli_sid=

I was thinking about a rollign ladder for a high platform in my wife;s
studio, but the prices were just to much. A step ladder solves the
problem and takes up less room...


Yes I saw that and the low prices are a bit deceiving.

You have to choose the wheel type, some lock, some are a different color
or style.
You add the top latch mechanism.
You add the multiple roller bars.
You add the bar caps.
You add the stand off brackets.
You add the hardware to hold the wooden parts together...

;~) A lot of adding..

Make me an offer on this one. ;-)

http://i.imgur.com/CxUUc2d.jpg

On 2/11/2017 10:27 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Saturday, February 11, 2017 at 11:17:24 AM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
On 2/11/2017 8:52 AM, Brewster wrote:
On 2/6/17 5:09 PM, Leon wrote:

IIRC hardware is about $1,200. I might be able to forgo the top steel
rails and fancy roller hooks at the top rails and just get the wheel set
up. THAT would be a lot less expensive.


I'm sure you have already seen this stuff:
http://www.rockler.com/search/go?w=l...uuid=&sli_sid=

I was thinking about a rollign ladder for a high platform in my wife;s
studio, but the prices were just to much. A step ladder solves the
problem and takes up less room...


Yes I saw that and the low prices are a bit deceiving.

You have to choose the wheel type, some lock, some are a different color
or style.
You add the top latch mechanism.
You add the multiple roller bars.
You add the bar caps.
You add the stand off brackets.
You add the hardware to hold the wooden parts together...

;~) A lot of adding..

Make me an offer on this one. ;-)

http://i.imgur.com/CxUUc2d.jpg



Too short. ;~)

On Saturday, February 11, 2017 at 11:38:49 AM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
On 2/11/2017 10:27 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Saturday, February 11, 2017 at 11:17:24 AM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
On 2/11/2017 8:52 AM, Brewster wrote:
On 2/6/17 5:09 PM, Leon wrote:

IIRC hardware is about $1,200. I might be able to forgo the top steel
rails and fancy roller hooks at the top rails and just get the wheel set
up. THAT would be a lot less expensive.


I'm sure you have already seen this stuff:
http://www.rockler.com/search/go?w=l...uuid=&sli_sid=

I was thinking about a rollign ladder for a high platform in my wife;s
studio, but the prices were just to much. A step ladder solves the
problem and takes up less room...


Yes I saw that and the low prices are a bit deceiving.

You have to choose the wheel type, some lock, some are a different color
or style.
You add the top latch mechanism.
You add the multiple roller bars.
You add the bar caps.
You add the stand off brackets.
You add the hardware to hold the wooden parts together...

;~) A lot of adding..

Make me an offer on this one. ;-)

http://i.imgur.com/CxUUc2d.jpg



Too short. ;~)

Hey! There's no need to get personal.

"DerbyDad03" wrote in message
...

Make me an offer on this one. ;-)

Am sure I offered up this solution which has worked very well for
accessing the small sleeping loft at our tiny Colorado cabin. One has to be
careful to get it right when you must find your way down for the inevitable
middle-of-the-night bathroom visit [or two].
See: alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking / Jefferson Stairs

FWIW
Dave in SoTex

On Sunday, February 12, 2017 at 12:03:16 PM UTC-5, Dave in SoTex wrote:
"DerbyDad03" wrote in message
...

Make me an offer on this one. ;-)

Am sure I offered up this solution which has worked very well for
accessing the small sleeping loft at our tiny Colorado cabin. One has to be
careful to get it right when you must find your way down for the inevitable
middle-of-the-night bathroom visit [or two].
See: alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking / Jefferson Stairs

FWIW
Dave in SoTex

Zipper Stairs offer the same space saving advantage, but seem even more
dangerous for those mid-night excursions.

http://cdn.instructables.com/FL3/848...L7AU.LARGE.jpg

On Sun, 12 Feb 2017 11:03:11 -0600, "Dave in SoTex"
wrote:


"DerbyDad03" wrote in message
...

Make me an offer on this one. ;-)

Am sure I offered up this solution which has worked very well for
accessing the small sleeping loft at our tiny Colorado cabin. One has to be
careful to get it right when you must find your way down for the inevitable
middle-of-the-night bathroom visit [or two].
See: alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking / Jefferson Stairs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45vymlPmq7s

I bet building inspectors love those!

On Sun, 12 Feb 2017 17:28:43 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 12 Feb 2017 11:03:11 -0600, "Dave in SoTex"
wrote:


"DerbyDad03" wrote in message
...

Make me an offer on this one. ;-)

Am sure I offered up this solution which has worked very well for
accessing the small sleeping loft at our tiny Colorado cabin. One has to be
careful to get it right when you must find your way down for the inevitable
middle-of-the-night bathroom visit [or two].
See: alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking / Jefferson Stairs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45vymlPmq7s

I bet building inspectors love those!

Leon have you looked at architectural salvage, Houston has to have
someplace.

On 2/12/2017 5:48 PM, Markem wrote:
On Sun, 12 Feb 2017 17:28:43 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 12 Feb 2017 11:03:11 -0600, "Dave in SoTex"
wrote:


"DerbyDad03" wrote in message
...

Make me an offer on this one. ;-)

Am sure I offered up this solution which has worked very well for
accessing the small sleeping loft at our tiny Colorado cabin. One has to be
careful to get it right when you must find your way down for the inevitable
middle-of-the-night bathroom visit [or two].
See: alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking / Jefferson Stairs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45vymlPmq7s

I bet building inspectors love those!

Leon have you looked at architectural salvage, Houston has to have
someplace.



I have not looked at all so far. I have not got the book cases put in
yet. I need to know exactly what my needs will be before I go hunting.
But yes, we have Habitat for Humanity stores here and probably some old
resale and or antique stores.

On Sunday, February 12, 2017 at 7:14:25 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
On 2/12/2017 5:48 PM, Markem wrote:
On Sun, 12 Feb 2017 17:28:43 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 12 Feb 2017 11:03:11 -0600, "Dave in SoTex"
wrote:


"DerbyDad03" wrote in message
...

Make me an offer on this one. ;-)

Am sure I offered up this solution which has worked very well for
accessing the small sleeping loft at our tiny Colorado cabin. One has to be
careful to get it right when you must find your way down for the inevitable
middle-of-the-night bathroom visit [or two].
See: alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking / Jefferson Stairs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45vymlPmq7s

I bet building inspectors love those!

Leon have you looked at architectural salvage, Houston has to have
someplace.



I have not looked at all so far. I have not got the book cases put in
yet. I need to know exactly what my needs will be before I go hunting.
But yes, we have Habitat for Humanity stores here and probably some old
resale and or antique stores.

It's probably too late now - or maybe not even important - but wouldn't
it make sense to look for a ladder at the start of the project, just in
case you need to make some kind of adjustment to your plans?

It would suck find the perfect ladder and then find that you are an inch
off on the placement of a shelf or divider or structural piece, preventing
a proper mounting.

Don't take that as a rookie giving advice to an expert, take it as a
question. ;-)

On 2/12/2017 6:43 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Sunday, February 12, 2017 at 7:14:25 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
On 2/12/2017 5:48 PM, Markem wrote:
On Sun, 12 Feb 2017 17:28:43 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 12 Feb 2017 11:03:11 -0600, "Dave in SoTex"
wrote:


"DerbyDad03" wrote in message
...

Make me an offer on this one. ;-)

Am sure I offered up this solution which has worked very well for
accessing the small sleeping loft at our tiny Colorado cabin. One has to be
careful to get it right when you must find your way down for the inevitable
middle-of-the-night bathroom visit [or two].
See: alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking / Jefferson Stairs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45vymlPmq7s

I bet building inspectors love those!

Leon have you looked at architectural salvage, Houston has to have
someplace.



I have not looked at all so far. I have not got the book cases put in
yet. I need to know exactly what my needs will be before I go hunting.
But yes, we have Habitat for Humanity stores here and probably some old
resale and or antique stores.

It's probably too late now - or maybe not even important - but wouldn't
it make sense to look for a ladder at the start of the project, just in
case you need to make some kind of adjustment to your plans?

Perhaps but I am not changing the cabinet plans for the sake of the
ladder. Push come to shove I will use a 3' folding step. ;~)



It would suck find the perfect ladder and then find that you are an inch
off on the placement of a shelf or divider or structural piece, preventing
a proper mounting.

I will build the ladder, it can be any size I want.



Don't take that as a rookie giving advice to an expert, take it as a
question. ;-)

If the ladder was the focus of the complete project I would absolutely
have designed the ladder and cabinets together. But ladder kits,
including the wood and all the needed components run in the $1200 range.
I hope to not spend that much. Also the ladder kits tell you what
sizes to buy depending on where the top of the ladder will be and how
far away from the cabinet the floor end has to be. It seems very flexible.