It would be rough to bend an iron or steel pipe in compression
mode unless you used excessive force, or used cheap pipe.

Martin

On 11/6/2015 11:05 AM, Electric Comet wrote:
On Thu, 05 Nov 2015 20:33:08 -0500
krw wrote:

The bar bends and the jaws are far from parallel. The jaws don't bite
into the pipe and slip. No thank you! I threw all my pipe clamps out
years ago.

the pipes too or just the clamps


also take note of the use of bar and pipe which are different
made this mistake myself

On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 20:20:22 -0600, Martin Eastburn
wrote:

It would be rough to bend an iron or steel pipe in compression
mode unless you used excessive force, or used cheap pipe.

Cheap black pipe? The stuff *does* bend. Horrible clamps.


Martin

On 11/6/2015 11:05 AM, Electric Comet wrote:
On Thu, 05 Nov 2015 20:33:08 -0500
krw wrote:

The bar bends and the jaws are far from parallel. The jaws don't bite
into the pipe and slip. No thank you! I threw all my pipe clamps out
years ago.

the pipes too or just the clamps


also take note of the use of bar and pipe which are different
made this mistake myself

krw writes:
On Fri, 06 Nov 2015 18:40:25 GMT, (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:

krw writes:
On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 09:05:47 -0800, Electric Comet
wrote:

On Thu, 05 Nov 2015 20:33:08 -0500
krw wrote:

The bar bends and the jaws are far from parallel. The jaws don't bite
into the pipe and slip. No thank you! I threw all my pipe clamps out
years ago.

the pipes too or just the clamps

Of course the pipes too. What good is one piece without the other?

If you have a pipe cutter and a hand threader, the pipe can still
be useful. Black or galvy.

For what? A boat anchor? All they were going to do is cost me more
money when I moved.

I've used old pipe for plumbing repair, handrails, gas-line repair, etc.

YMMV.

On Mon, 09 Nov 2015 14:24:13 GMT, (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:

krw writes:
On Fri, 06 Nov 2015 18:40:25 GMT, (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:

krw writes:
On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 09:05:47 -0800, Electric Comet
wrote:

On Thu, 05 Nov 2015 20:33:08 -0500
krw wrote:

The bar bends and the jaws are far from parallel. The jaws don't bite
into the pipe and slip. No thank you! I threw all my pipe clamps out
years ago.

the pipes too or just the clamps

Of course the pipes too. What good is one piece without the other?

If you have a pipe cutter and a hand threader, the pipe can still
be useful. Black or galvy.

For what? A boat anchor? All they were going to do is cost me more
money when I moved.

I've used old pipe for plumbing repair, handrails, gas-line repair, etc.

YMMV.

Black pipe for water? I've never even owned a house with galvanized.
All of the handrails have been wood and, yes, I did have black pipe
gas lines for a short while, though I'd never do the work myself. It's
still not work carrying pipe around the country in case, some day,
you'll be forced to live in an ancient house. ;-)

krw writes:
On Mon, 09 Nov 2015 14:24:13 GMT, (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:

krw writes:
On Fri, 06 Nov 2015 18:40:25 GMT, (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:

krw writes:
On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 09:05:47 -0800, Electric Comet
wrote:

On Thu, 05 Nov 2015 20:33:08 -0500
krw wrote:

The bar bends and the jaws are far from parallel. The jaws don't bite
into the pipe and slip. No thank you! I threw all my pipe clamps out
years ago.

the pipes too or just the clamps

Of course the pipes too. What good is one piece without the other?

If you have a pipe cutter and a hand threader, the pipe can still
be useful. Black or galvy.

For what? A boat anchor? All they were going to do is cost me more
money when I moved.

I've used old pipe for plumbing repair, handrails, gas-line repair, etc.

YMMV.

Black pipe for water? I've never even owned a house with galvanized.

I've seen (and I have) pipe clamps made from galvy. And my house is
plumbed with galvy, so it's been useful to me. I also have pipe clamps
made from black iron, but didn't need to repurpose them when I extended
the gas from the furnace to the kitchen for a gas stove.

If you don't need it, donate it to a building materials recycling place,
if you have one nearby.

On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 10:17:31 -0800 (PST)
DerbyDad03 wrote:

What is there to explain?

https://i0.wp.com/i170.photobucket.c...ilSanta400.jpg

well okay not the traditional route

On Mon, 09 Nov 2015 19:55:28 GMT, (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:

krw writes:
On Mon, 09 Nov 2015 14:24:13 GMT, (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:

krw writes:
On Fri, 06 Nov 2015 18:40:25 GMT, (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:

krw writes:
On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 09:05:47 -0800, Electric Comet
wrote:

On Thu, 05 Nov 2015 20:33:08 -0500
krw wrote:

The bar bends and the jaws are far from parallel. The jaws don't bite
into the pipe and slip. No thank you! I threw all my pipe clamps out
years ago.

the pipes too or just the clamps

Of course the pipes too. What good is one piece without the other?

If you have a pipe cutter and a hand threader, the pipe can still
be useful. Black or galvy.

For what? A boat anchor? All they were going to do is cost me more
money when I moved.

I've used old pipe for plumbing repair, handrails, gas-line repair, etc.

YMMV.

Black pipe for water? I've never even owned a house with galvanized.

I've seen (and I have) pipe clamps made from galvy. And my house is
plumbed with galvy, so it's been useful to me. I also have pipe clamps
made from black iron, but didn't need to repurpose them when I extended
the gas from the furnace to the kitchen for a gas stove.

Galvanized doesn't make good pipe clamps. Code enforcers tend to
frown on DIY gas installation.

If you don't need it, donate it to a building materials recycling place,
if you have one nearby.

I'd never heard of such a thing at the time. I probably would have.

krw wrote:
On Mon, 09 Nov 2015 19:55:28 GMT, (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:


If you don't need it, donate it to a building materials recycling
place, if you have one nearby.


I'd never heard of such a thing at the time. I probably would have.

Around here about all we have that would qualify as a building materials
recycling place is the Habitat For Humanity store. Kind of inconvenient to
get to it, and man is it a major clutter inside. Doesn't seem that a lot of
people go there to get materials unless they're maybe looking for a specific
type of old window or door, or the likes.

--

-Mike-

On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 6:54:31 AM UTC-5, Mike Marlow wrote:
krw wrote:
On Mon, 09 Nov 2015 19:55:28 GMT, (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:


If you don't need it, donate it to a building materials recycling
place, if you have one nearby.


I'd never heard of such a thing at the time. I probably would have.

Around here about all we have that would qualify as a building materials
recycling place is the Habitat For Humanity store. Kind of inconvenient to
get to it, and man is it a major clutter inside. Doesn't seem that a lot of
people go there to get materials unless they're maybe looking for a specific
type of old window or door, or the likes.

--

We have a Habitat ReStore as well as a couple of "retail" architectural
salvage stores nearby. I've never donated/sold anything to them but I've
purchased a few items.

My son once rented a doorless basement room from a friend. It was one
of those set ups where you went down the stairs to a landing and then
turned left or right into a room. The problem was that it was 2 steps
down from the landing to the floor, i.e. 1 physical step was inside
the room but the stairway wall ended at the landing. The only place
to hang a door was at the landing which means the door had to be
way shorter than any door available at a home center.

I went to the salvage place, found door that was solid enough to be
cut down, top and bottom, and casually mentioned that I would need to
buy a jamb at the home center. "Oh, we've got a pile of them over there.
Go grab one, no charge." I think we paid $25 total for the door, jamb
hardware. It was quite a job to hang a door where one seriously did not
belong, but as weird as it looked when we were done - swinging about
a foot off of the floor when it was open - my son now had some privacy.

On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 06:53:34 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
wrote:

krw wrote:
On Mon, 09 Nov 2015 19:55:28 GMT, (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:


If you don't need it, donate it to a building materials recycling
place, if you have one nearby.


I'd never heard of such a thing at the time. I probably would have.

Around here about all we have that would qualify as a building materials
recycling place is the Habitat For Humanity store. Kind of inconvenient to
get to it, and man is it a major clutter inside. Doesn't seem that a lot of
people go there to get materials unless they're maybe looking for a specific
type of old window or door, or the likes.

I understand, now. Up until a couple of years ago I'd never heard of
one and they certainly weren't any close (in the state?). We only had
one HD and the other lumber yards were so poor that the HD put them
out of business.

On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 5:54:31 AM UTC-6, Mike Marlow wrote:


Around here about all we have that would qualify as a building materials
recycling place is the Habitat For Humanity store. Kind of inconvenient to
get to it, and man is it a major clutter inside. Doesn't seem that a lot of
people go there to get materials unless they're maybe looking for a specific
type of old window or door, or the likes.

We have two Habitat stores here. One located downtown, and one in a cheap warehouse district convenient to nothing. They seem to specialize is one of kind damaged goods, broken light fixtures, badly scratched cabinets that have been torn off walls by remodelers that don't want to pay for a dumpster, incomplete hardware packages, and nearly dried paint.

Best of all, you can usually buy their goods new, get exactly what you want and have a warranty (our Habitat has a NO return policy)and pay less for it at a convenient big box store. I

wrote:
On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 5:54:31 AM UTC-6, Mike Marlow wrote:

Around here about all we have that would qualify as a building materials
recycling place is the Habitat For Humanity store. Kind of inconvenient to
get to it, and man is it a major clutter inside. Doesn't seem that a lot of
people go there to get materials unless they're maybe looking for a specific
type of old window or door, or the likes.
We have two Habitat stores here. One located downtown, and one in a cheap warehouse district convenient to nothing. They seem to specialize is one of kind damaged goods, broken light fixtures, badly scratched cabinets that have been torn off walls by remodelers that don't want to pay for a dumpster, incomplete hardware packages, and nearly dried paint.


The full cost is probably tax-deductable that way--rather than say if
the expense was due to cough, cough operator error. I am not an
accountant, so this is just a guess. Since Mike brought it up, I
noticed that I have 2 of the stores that would be accessible to me (I
never heard of their stores before).


Best of all, you can usually buy their goods new, get exactly what you want and have a warranty (our Habitat has a NO return policy)and pay less for it at a convenient big box store. I

wrote:
On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 5:54:31 AM UTC-6, Mike Marlow wrote:


Around here about all we have that would qualify as a building
materials recycling place is the Habitat For Humanity store. Kind
of inconvenient to get to it, and man is it a major clutter inside.
Doesn't seem that a lot of people go there to get materials unless
they're maybe looking for a specific type of old window or door, or
the likes.

We have two Habitat stores here. One located downtown, and one in a
cheap warehouse district convenient to nothing. They seem to
specialize is one of kind damaged goods, broken light fixtures, badly
scratched cabinets that have been torn off walls by remodelers that
don't want to pay for a dumpster, incomplete hardware packages, and
nearly dried paint.

Best of all, you can usually buy their goods new, get exactly what
you want and have a warranty (our Habitat has a NO return policy)and
pay less for it at a convenient big box store. I

Sounds about like the one we have here. I only went to it one time and
decided I didn't need to go back again until the day I discovered I need a
dirty old toilet...

--

-Mike-

On 11/11/2015 1:10 AM, wrote:
On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 5:54:31 AM UTC-6, Mike Marlow
wrote:


Around here about all we have that would qualify as a building
materials recycling place is the Habitat For Humanity store. Kind
of inconvenient to get to it, and man is it a major clutter inside.
Doesn't seem that a lot of people go there to get materials unless
they're maybe looking for a specific type of old window or door, or
the likes.

We have two Habitat stores here. One located downtown, and one in a
cheap warehouse district convenient to nothing. They seem to
specialize is one of kind damaged goods, broken light fixtures, badly
scratched cabinets that have been torn off walls by remodelers that
don't want to pay for a dumpster, incomplete hardware packages, and
nearly dried paint.

Best of all, you can usually buy their goods new, get exactly what
you want and have a warranty (our Habitat has a NO return policy)and
pay less for it at a convenient big box store. I



Well your Habitat stores make the "save the world do-gooders" feel good.
;~)

On 11/11/2015 4:33 AM, Mike Marlow wrote:
wrote:


Sounds about like the one we have here. I only went to it one time and
decided I didn't need to go back again until the day I discovered I need a
dirty old toilet...



Dirty old toilet? Something purdy fer the garden? ;~)

On Wednesday, November 11, 2015 at 2:48:45 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
On 11/11/2015 4:33 AM, Mike Marlow wrote:
wrote:


Sounds about like the one we have here. I only went to it one time and
decided I didn't need to go back again until the day I discovered I need a
dirty old toilet...



Dirty old toilet? Something purdy fer the garden? ;~)

A few years ago, I replaced a toilet just before Halloween. My
yard decorations always include a number of "scarecrows" (old
clothes stuffed with leaves) in various poses. I sat one on
the old toilet, put a book in his hands, set an old floor lamp
behind him and let him enjoy some reading time.

That one got as many laughs as the one stuck halfway under the
lawnmower.

On Wednesday, November 11, 2015 at 1:57:30 AM UTC-6, Bill wrote:

The full cost is probably tax-deductable that way--rather than say if
the expense was due to cough, cough operator error. I am not an
accountant, so this is just a guess. Since Mike brought it up, I
noticed that I have 2 of the stores that would be accessible to me (I
never heard of their stores before).

The tax deductible part only comes about if the guy accepting the donations gives you a valid receipt, and your accountant can tie it in to a receipt showing you paid the same amount. Ask me how I know that...

You should take a look at your local store. When ours started it, it was actually a pretty good place to go for odds and ends. Carpet guys left pieces of carpet that might do one room behind. There were boxes of older floor tile that had plenty to do a bathroom. I used to donate unopened paint that I couldn't use for primer. When I was doing office finish outs, I would change out door closers, hinges, and hardware and take the old stuff and put it in the new hardware boxes and take it to them. If I had a new left over cabinet (client mind change) would go down there, along with door blanks, etc. I used to see faux marble tops down there a lot as they would take them out of tract homes and replace with a different color if the buyer wanted something else. If you had a good eye and could mix and match ceramic tiles, you had a goldmine down there.

For the first ten or so years it was operating down there, I bought metal doors with a dent of two in them along with commercial grade hardware (used, but I refurbed it) and off sized windows for my friends DIY projects. Everything there was priced to move so it was all about 30 to 50% of retail. There were some honest bargains and good finds down there on new and used materials.

Ours has been around about 30 years now, and the folks that made that work down there are all long gone. They will take anything in for sale and as minimum wage employees probably wouldn't care if the place burned down.

That being said, I still run into someone now and again (homeowners that can wait) that find some really good deals there.

Robert

On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 13:47:10 -0600, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet
wrote:

On 11/11/2015 1:10 AM, wrote:
On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 5:54:31 AM UTC-6, Mike Marlow
wrote:


Around here about all we have that would qualify as a building
materials recycling place is the Habitat For Humanity store. Kind
of inconvenient to get to it, and man is it a major clutter inside.
Doesn't seem that a lot of people go there to get materials unless
they're maybe looking for a specific type of old window or door, or
the likes.

We have two Habitat stores here. One located downtown, and one in a
cheap warehouse district convenient to nothing. They seem to
specialize is one of kind damaged goods, broken light fixtures, badly
scratched cabinets that have been torn off walls by remodelers that
don't want to pay for a dumpster, incomplete hardware packages, and
nearly dried paint.

Best of all, you can usually buy their goods new, get exactly what
you want and have a warranty (our Habitat has a NO return policy)and
pay less for it at a convenient big box store. I



Well your Habitat stores make the "save the world do-gooders" feel good.
;~)

Particularly when they drive up in their Tesla.