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Just found out that an acquaintance of mine suffered a dizzy spell the
other night while in the shower and showed signs of loosing motor control functions. Over his objections, the wife called the paramedics who took him to the E/R where the ran either an MRI or a Cat Scan and discovered he had an aneurysm in his brain. Wheeled him directly into surgery where they were able to ultimately get the bleeding stopped. At this writing, haven't learned what the long term results will be, but there WILL be some. He turns 72 later this week and was just beginning to settle into retirement. The message is pretty clear. Nobody gets out alive. If you don't stop and smell the poesies while you can, you don't have anybody to blame but yourself. The chase to catch the almighty $ often demands and gets a very high price. Lew |
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On 1/25/2014 10:02 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
Just found out that an acquaintance of mine suffered a dizzy spell the other night while in the shower and showed signs of loosing motor control functions. Over his objections, the wife called the paramedics who took him to the E/R where the ran either an MRI or a Cat Scan and discovered he had an aneurysm in his brain. Wheeled him directly into surgery where they were able to ultimately get the bleeding stopped. At this writing, haven't learned what the long term results will be, but there WILL be some. He turns 72 later this week and was just beginning to settle into retirement. The message is pretty clear. Nobody gets out alive. If you don't stop and smell the poesies while you can, you don't have anybody to blame but yourself. The chase to catch the almighty $ often demands and gets a very high price. Lew I think the message is to take care of yourself. |
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On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 20:02:15 -0800, Lew Hodgett wrote:
If you don't stop and smell the poesies while you can, you don't have anybody to blame but yourself. The chase to catch the almighty $ often demands and gets a very high price. Lew Amen! We're leading a somewhat austere old age because I semi-retired at 50 and completely at 62 or so. But we're living :-). And we had so much added good times together during those years that we have no regrets. -- This msg is for rec.woodworking - not homeowners hub. |
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Leon wrote:
On 1/25/2014 10:02 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote: Just found out that an acquaintance of mine suffered a dizzy spell the other night while in the shower and showed signs of loosing motor control functions. Over his objections, the wife called the paramedics who took him to the E/R where the ran either an MRI or a Cat Scan and discovered he had an aneurysm in his brain. Wheeled him directly into surgery where they were able to ultimately get the bleeding stopped. At this writing, haven't learned what the long term results will be, but there WILL be some. He turns 72 later this week and was just beginning to settle into retirement. The message is pretty clear. Nobody gets out alive. If you don't stop and smell the poesies while you can, you don't have anybody to blame but yourself. The chase to catch the almighty $ often demands and gets a very high price. Lew I think the message is to take care of yourself. I think Lew's message is better. Too many people have fallen prey to the misguided belief that if they take care of themselves, that all will be well. That's just not universally true. Too many people have succumbed to too many things that they seemingly should not have, to justfiy that thinking. Just had a friend of a friend, and also the son of a friend (two different cases), die in their 40's after just going down for a nap. Non-smokers. Fit, active individuals. Take care of yourself? Who can ever tell? -- -Mike- |
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"Mike Marlow" wrote in news:lc3plt$qol$1@dont-
email.me: Leon wrote: I think the message is to take care of yourself. I think Lew's message is better. Too many people have fallen prey to the misguided belief that if they take care of themselves, that all will be well. That's just not universally true. Too many people have succumbed to too many things that they seemingly should not have, to justfiy that thinking. Just had a friend of a friend, and also the son of a friend (two different cases), die in their 40's after just going down for a nap. Non-smokers. Fit, active individuals. Take care of yourself? Who can ever tell? There are no guarantees, to be sure, but taking care of yourself certainly improves your odds. Five years ago, SWMBO's parents moved in with us because their health had declined to the point where they were no longer able to live independently -- and *every bit* of that was due to problems that could easily have been prevented by proper diet and regular exercise. Sadly, they had neither. My FIL passed away a year ago at the age of 89 -- having spent his last ten or fifteen years *wishing* he'd died in his 70s -- and my MIL is now in the "memory care" unit of a local nursing home due to dementia resulting from 40 years of not managing her Type II diabetes, that due to years of poor eating habits and never, ever exercising at all. It was sure an eye-opener for both of us, and really lit a fire under our butts to get ourselves back in shape. Since then, SWMBO and I have lost a combined total of about 75 pounds, targeting 100, and it feels like rolling the clock back 20 years: many aches and pains that we thought were going to be perennial companions have simply vanished. We have a tandem bicycle that we ride regularly -- put 300+ miles on it last summer -- and we're planning on some real long-distance excursions with it this year, trying to see if we can manage 100 miles in a single day. Our best so far is 48 in half a day. |
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On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 15:06:15 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
wrote: Leon wrote: On 1/25/2014 10:02 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote: Just found out that an acquaintance of mine suffered a dizzy spell the other night while in the shower and showed signs of loosing motor control functions. Over his objections, the wife called the paramedics who took him to the E/R where the ran either an MRI or a Cat Scan and discovered he had an aneurysm in his brain. Wheeled him directly into surgery where they were able to ultimately get the bleeding stopped. At this writing, haven't learned what the long term results will be, but there WILL be some. He turns 72 later this week and was just beginning to settle into retirement. The message is pretty clear. Nobody gets out alive. If you don't stop and smell the poesies while you can, you don't have anybody to blame but yourself. The chase to catch the almighty $ often demands and gets a very high price. Lew I think the message is to take care of yourself. I think Lew's message is better. Too many people have fallen prey to the misguided belief that if they take care of themselves, that all will be well. That's just not universally true. Too many people have succumbed to too many things that they seemingly should not have, to justfiy that thinking. Just had a friend of a friend, and also the son of a friend (two different cases), die in their 40's after just going down for a nap. Non-smokers. Fit, active individuals. Take care of yourself? Who can ever tell? Number three brother died in his sleep on vacation at his SIL's place in England last year. He was the most fit of the four of us (spent an hour or hour and a half in the gym every day) and if anyone guessed, he would be the one to outlive us all. |
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On 1/26/2014 2:21 PM, Doug Miller wrote:
"Mike Marlow" wrote in news:lc3plt$qol$1@dont- email.me: Leon wrote: I think the message is to take care of yourself. I think Lew's message is better. Too many people have fallen prey to the misguided belief that if they take care of themselves, that all will be well. That's just not universally true. Too many people have succumbed to too many things that they seemingly should not have, to justfiy that thinking. Just had a friend of a friend, and also the son of a friend (two different cases), die in their 40's after just going down for a nap. Non-smokers. Fit, active individuals. Take care of yourself? Who can ever tell? There are no guarantees, to be sure, but taking care of yourself certainly improves your odds. Five years ago, SWMBO's parents moved in with us because their health had declined to the point where they were no longer able to live independently -- and *every bit* of that was due to problems that could easily have been prevented by proper diet and regular exercise. Sadly, they had neither. My FIL passed away a year ago at the age of 89 -- having spent his last ten or fifteen years *wishing* he'd died in his 70s -- and my MIL is now in the "memory care" unit of a local nursing home due to dementia resulting from 40 years of not managing her Type II diabetes, that due to years of poor eating habits and never, ever exercising at all. It was sure an eye-opener for both of us, and really lit a fire under our butts to get ourselves back in shape. Since then, SWMBO and I have lost a combined total of about 75 pounds, targeting 100, and it feels like rolling the clock back 20 years: many aches and pains that we thought were going to be perennial companions have simply vanished. We have a tandem bicycle that we ride regularly -- put 300+ miles on it last summer -- and we're planning on some real long-distance excursions with it this year, trying to see if we can manage 100 miles in a single day. Our best so far is 48 in half a day. I am a proponent to staying active. Kids these days have more health related problems because of inactivity. I started exercising regularly in 2006 and I feel much better today than I did 10 years ago. My wife retired about 18 months ago and we ride out bikes quite a bit, 10~20 miles on average. If you want to feel like you are a kid again, be active like a kid again! On a side note, a customer of mine rode her bike from Houston TX to Austin TX in 2 days. That is about 150 miles IIRC. She is in her late 70's. |
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Doug Miller wrote:
"Mike Marlow" wrote in news:lc3plt$qol$1@dont- email.me: Leon wrote: I think the message is to take care of yourself. I think Lew's message is better. Too many people have fallen prey to the misguided belief that if they take care of themselves, that all will be well. That's just not universally true. Too many people have succumbed to too many things that they seemingly should not have, to justfiy that thinking. Just had a friend of a friend, and also the son of a friend (two different cases), die in their 40's after just going down for a nap. Non-smokers. Fit, active individuals. Take care of yourself? Who can ever tell? There are no guarantees, to be sure, but taking care of yourself certainly improves your odds. Five years ago, SWMBO's parents moved in with us because their health had declined to the point where they were no longer able to live independently -- and *every bit* of that was due to problems that could easily have been prevented by proper diet and regular exercise. Sadly, they had neither. My FIL passed away a year ago at the age of 89 -- having spent his last ten or fifteen years *wishing* he'd died in his 70s -- and my MIL is now in the "memory care" unit of a local nursing home due to dementia resulting from 40 years of not managing her Type II diabetes, that due to years of poor eating habits and never, ever exercising at all. I understand what you are saying Doug, and I don't disagree, but on the other hand my mother is in the same sort of home after a very active life, a very self-suficient life, and none of those other conditions your describe with your MIL. You just can't point to all of those other conditions or life patterns as the culprit for everything that happens to people. Stuff just happens - it's part of life. -- -Mike- |
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On 1/26/2014 6:30 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
Doug Miller wrote: "Mike Marlow" wrote in news:lc3plt$qol$1@dont- email.me: Leon wrote: I think the message is to take care of yourself. I think Lew's message is better. Too many people have fallen prey to the misguided belief that if they take care of themselves, that all will be well. That's just not universally true. Too many people have succumbed to too many things that they seemingly should not have, to justfiy that thinking. Just had a friend of a friend, and also the son of a friend (two different cases), die in their 40's after just going down for a nap. Non-smokers. Fit, active individuals. Take care of yourself? Who can ever tell? There are no guarantees, to be sure, but taking care of yourself certainly improves your odds. Five years ago, SWMBO's parents moved in with us because their health had declined to the point where they were no longer able to live independently -- and *every bit* of that was due to problems that could easily have been prevented by proper diet and regular exercise. Sadly, they had neither. My FIL passed away a year ago at the age of 89 -- having spent his last ten or fifteen years *wishing* he'd died in his 70s -- and my MIL is now in the "memory care" unit of a local nursing home due to dementia resulting from 40 years of not managing her Type II diabetes, that due to years of poor eating habits and never, ever exercising at all. I understand what you are saying Doug, and I don't disagree, but on the other hand my mother is in the same sort of home after a very active life, a very self-suficient life, and none of those other conditions your describe with your MIL. You just can't point to all of those other conditions or life patterns as the culprit for everything that happens to people. Stuff just happens - it's part of life. You are exactly right! But if you take care of your self the odds of living a longer and healthier life increase significantly in your favor. |
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On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:37:16 -0600, Leon wrote:
You just can't point to all of those other conditions or life patterns as the culprit for everything that happens to people. Stuff just happens - it's part of life. You are exactly right! But if you take care of your self the odds of living a longer and healthier life increase significantly in your favor. Genetics plays an important part. Just how much is still being studied. -- This msg is for rec.woodworking - not homeowners hub. |
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On 1/27/2014 11:15 AM, Larry Blanchard wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:37:16 -0600, Leon wrote: You just can't point to all of those other conditions or life patterns as the culprit for everything that happens to people. Stuff just happens - it's part of life. You are exactly right! But if you take care of your self the odds of living a longer and healthier life increase significantly in your favor. Genetics plays an important part. Just how much is still being studied. This is true too. But consider in the cases where twins are concerned, one takes care of himself the other does not and the differences are pretty obvious. And or take my mother and her two older sisters. Both sisters did not take very good care of themselves and did not adhere to their maintenance drugs. All three smoked until until they died. The oldest sister died of heart problems at 76. The middle sister died of basically the same problem at age 75. Their father died of a heart condition around 66. My mother did take better care of herself by comparison and took her drugs as prescribed and died at age 87 from stage 4 lung cancer. FWIW she was diagnosed with cancer on December 10, 2009 and died 58 days later so she did not suffer long with the disease. |
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Leon wrote:
But consider in the cases where twins are concerned, one takes care of himself the other does not and the differences are pretty obvious. And or take my mother and her two older sisters. Both sisters did not take very good care of themselves and did not adhere to their maintenance drugs. All three smoked until until they died. The oldest sister died of heart problems at 76. The middle sister died of basically the same problem at age 75. Their father died of a heart condition around 66. My mother did take better care of herself by comparison and took her drugs as prescribed and died at age 87 from stage 4 lung cancer. FWIW she was diagnosed with cancer on December 10, 2009 and died 58 days later so she did not suffer long with the disease. Not sure what you are trying to say here Leon. How do the twin sisters tie into the story? -- -Mike- |
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On 1/27/2014 4:15 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
Leon wrote: But consider in the cases where twins are concerned, one takes care of himself the other does not and the differences are pretty obvious. And or take my mother and her two older sisters. Both sisters did not take very good care of themselves and did not adhere to their maintenance drugs. All three smoked until until they died. The oldest sister died of heart problems at 76. The middle sister died of basically the same problem at age 75. Their father died of a heart condition around 66. My mother did take better care of herself by comparison and took her drugs as prescribed and died at age 87 from stage 4 lung cancer. FWIW she was diagnosed with cancer on December 10, 2009 and died 58 days later so she did not suffer long with the disease. Not sure what you are trying to say here Leon. How do the twin sisters tie into the story? Twin sisters? Two different examples. No I am not going to site any thing for you. |
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Leon wrote:
On 1/27/2014 4:15 PM, Mike Marlow wrote: Leon wrote: But consider in the cases where twins are concerned, one takes care of himself the other does not and the differences are pretty obvious. And or take my mother and her two older sisters. Both sisters did not take very good care of themselves and did not adhere to their maintenance drugs. All three smoked until until they died. The oldest sister died of heart problems at 76. The middle sister died of basically the same problem at age 75. Their father died of a heart condition around 66. My mother did take better care of herself by comparison and took her drugs as prescribed and died at age 87 from stage 4 lung cancer. FWIW she was diagnosed with cancer on December 10, 2009 and died 58 days later so she did not suffer long with the disease. Not sure what you are trying to say here Leon. How do the twin sisters tie into the story? Twin sisters? Two different examples. No I am not going to site any thing for you. Sorry - my confusion. I saw the first comment about twins and somehow thought that's what you were talking about. Man - a mind is a terrible thing to waste... -- -Mike- |
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"Mike Marlow" wrote in news:lc6t3k$9g$1@dont-
email.me: Sorry - my confusion. I saw the first comment about twins and somehow thought that's what you were talking about. Man - a mind is a terrible thing to waste... And a waist is a terrible thing to mind... |
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"Mike Marlow" wrote in message ...
Leon wrote: On 1/25/2014 10:02 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote: Just found out that an acquaintance of mine suffered a dizzy spell the other night while in the shower and showed signs of loosing motor control functions. Over his objections, the wife called the paramedics who took him to the E/R where the ran either an MRI or a Cat Scan and discovered he had an aneurysm in his brain. Wheeled him directly into surgery where they were able to ultimately get the bleeding stopped. At this writing, haven't learned what the long term results will be, but there WILL be some. He turns 72 later this week and was just beginning to settle into retirement. The message is pretty clear. Nobody gets out alive. If you don't stop and smell the poesies while you can, you don't have anybody to blame but yourself. The chase to catch the almighty $ often demands and gets a very high price. Lew I think the message is to take care of yourself. I think Lew's message is better. Too many people have fallen prey to the misguided belief that if they take care of themselves, that all will be well. That's just not universally true. Too many people have succumbed to too many things that they seemingly should not have, to justfiy that thinking. Just had a friend of a friend, and also the son of a friend (two different cases), die in their 40's after just going down for a nap. Non-smokers. Fit, active individuals. Take care of yourself? Who can ever tell? It's about risk management. Smoking, weight issues, lack of exercise, blood pressure, chlorestoral are all factors that likely elevate your risks relative to one's longevity. I think the best you can do is to manage your risk factors to give yourself the best odds possible. But, in the end [pun intended], there are no guarantees. Dave in South Texas |
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Doug Miller wrote:
"Mike Marlow" wrote in news:lc6t3k$9g$1@dont- email.me: Sorry - my confusion. I saw the first comment about twins and somehow thought that's what you were talking about. Man - a mind is a terrible thing to waste... And a waist is a terrible thing to mind... I'm sorry - does somebody actually do that? -- -Mike- |
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"Mike Marlow" wrote in message ... Doug Miller wrote: "Mike Marlow" wrote in news:lc6t3k$9g$1@dont- email.me: Sorry - my confusion. I saw the first comment about twins and somehow thought that's what you were talking about. Man - a mind is a terrible thing to waste... And a waist is a terrible thing to mind... I'm sorry - does somebody actually do that? -- -Mike- I was in my late forty's when I almost kicked the bucket, had a stomach area pain that would come and go finally it was more coming then going. Wife told me to ER where they ran some test and admitted me. I had serve pantreicatiz (sp) after 4 days in Hospital Doc told me that if I had waited just one or two more days I probably would not have made it. So now if something is out of whack for 3 days I go have it checked out. We have to take care of ourselves is the bottom line, listen to your loved ones when they request you to get something checked out. |
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"Marty Giblin" wrote: I was in my late forty's when I almost kicked the bucket, had a stomach area pain that would come and go finally it was more coming then going. Wife told me to ER where they ran some test and admitted me. I had serve pantreicatiz (sp) after 4 days in Hospital Doc told me that if I had waited just one or two more days I probably would not have made it. So now if something is out of whack for 3 days I go have it checked out. We have to take care of ourselves is the bottom line, listen to your loved ones when they request you to get something checked out. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Have a friend who has been bothered by pancreatitis attacks. Can be rest assured that a stay in the hospital will be involved before it's all over. Very nasty stuff. Lew |
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"Lew Hodgett" wrote: Just found out that an acquaintance of mine suffered a dizzy spell the other night while in the shower and showed signs of loosing motor control functions. Over his objections, the wife called the paramedics who took him to the E/R where the ran either an MRI or a Cat Scan and discovered he had an aneurysm in his brain. Wheeled him directly into surgery where they were able to ultimately get the bleeding stopped. At this writing, haven't learned what the long term results will be, but there WILL be some. He turns 72 later this week and was just beginning to settle into retirement. The message is pretty clear. Nobody gets out alive. If you don't stop and smell the poesies while you can, you don't have anybody to blame but yourself. The chase to catch the almighty $ often demands and gets a very high price. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7 weeks later and things are just beginning to fall into place. Had 4 weeks in hospital followed by a couple of weeks in a rehab facility and now at home with 24/7 live in support. Has muscle strength on left side but without brain control. His auto driving days are history. Will need 24/7 live in support at home for at least another 2-3 weeks and then another evaluation can be made. Meanwhile another member of that group is about 90 days into stage 4 lung cancer that is spreading to other organs and have just received that two (2) more of my high school classmates have cashed in their hands. Those poesies keep smelling better and better. About time to do some sailing while still able and warmer weather is coming to enjoy it. What's your way to enjoy those poesies? Lew |
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Lew Hodgett wrote:
Those poesies keep smelling better and better. About time to do some sailing while still able and warmer weather is coming to enjoy it. What's your way to enjoy those poesies? No so much anything directly Lew, but I will say that it just seems to come more naturally now to enjoy things just for the sake of it, to let go of junk that I just don't need to carry around, and probably the biggest - to not have to win every little thing. Maybe that's just a sign of getting older and lazier, but it's probably as close to enjoying those poesies as I get right now. -- -Mike- |
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So true, and how many of us go on.....without worrying or thinking
about.....enjoying the posies..... john "Lew Hodgett" wrote in message eb.com... "Lew Hodgett" wrote: Just found out that an acquaintance of mine suffered a dizzy spell the other night while in the shower and showed signs of loosing motor control functions. Over his objections, the wife called the paramedics who took him to the E/R where the ran either an MRI or a Cat Scan and discovered he had an aneurysm in his brain. Wheeled him directly into surgery where they were able to ultimately get the bleeding stopped. At this writing, haven't learned what the long term results will be, but there WILL be some. He turns 72 later this week and was just beginning to settle into retirement. The message is pretty clear. Nobody gets out alive. If you don't stop and smell the poesies while you can, you don't have anybody to blame but yourself. The chase to catch the almighty $ often demands and gets a very high price. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7 weeks later and things are just beginning to fall into place. Had 4 weeks in hospital followed by a couple of weeks in a rehab facility and now at home with 24/7 live in support. Has muscle strength on left side but without brain control. His auto driving days are history. Will need 24/7 live in support at home for at least another 2-3 weeks and then another evaluation can be made. Meanwhile another member of that group is about 90 days into stage 4 lung cancer that is spreading to other organs and have just received that two (2) more of my high school classmates have cashed in their hands. Those poesies keep smelling better and better. About time to do some sailing while still able and warmer weather is coming to enjoy it. What's your way to enjoy those poesies? Lew |
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On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 09:01:57 -0700, "jloomis"
wrote: Those poesies keep smelling better and better. About time to do some sailing while still able and warmer weather is coming to enjoy it. What's your way to enjoy those poesies? Lew I'm still employed, but doing less and less and taking time off more and more. I have a very unusual job in that I can come and go as I please, take off all the time I want, and I like the people I work with. No stress, no deadlines, no good reason to outright retire. We've been traveling a bit more. This summer I hope to take a very long road trip from here in CT to granddaughter's graduation in Las Vegas with stops on the way back at Yellowstone, Mr. Rushmore and a dozen other places along the way. Three to four weeks with no timetable other than the graduation. |
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On 3/22/2014 12:18 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 09:01:57 -0700, "jloomis" wrote: Those poesies keep smelling better and better. About time to do some sailing while still able and warmer weather is coming to enjoy it. What's your way to enjoy those poesies? Lew I'm still employed, but doing less and less and taking time off more and more. I have a very unusual job in that I can come and go as I please, take off all the time I want, and I like the people I work with. No stress, no deadlines, no good reason to outright retire. We've been traveling a bit more. This summer I hope to take a very long road trip from here in CT to granddaughter's graduation in Las Vegas with stops on the way back at Yellowstone, Mr. Rushmore and a dozen other places along the way. Three to four weeks with no timetable other than the graduation. You might want to think close to double that time table if you want to see a dozen other places. Yellowstone alone could take you 3~4 days if you want to see it all. And while you are near Las Vegas, Page, Arizona at Lake Powell is beautiful. The all day train ride from Durango CO. to Silverton Co and back should be on your bucket list. Gunnison CO, Black Canyon of the Gunnison is a treasure. Ouray CO has breath taking scenes along the million dollar highway. ........ |
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On 3/22/2014 1:18 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 09:01:57 -0700, "jloomis" wrote: Those poesies keep smelling better and better. About time to do some sailing while still able and warmer weather is coming to enjoy it. What's your way to enjoy those poesies? Lew I'm still employed, but doing less and less and taking time off more and more. I have a very unusual job in that I can come and go as I please, take off all the time I want, and I like the people I work with. No stress, no deadlines, no good reason to outright retire. We've been traveling a bit more. This summer I hope to take a very long road trip from here in CT to granddaughter's graduation in Las Vegas with stops on the way back at Yellowstone, Mr. Rushmore and a dozen other places along the way. Three to four weeks with no timetable other than the graduation. I'm the other way, un-employed and doing more and more at each job, for less money. Jobs are short lived, and layoffs keep happening. Also the terrain has changed, and those in charge are foriegn, and the value is very skewed, they place more value in people who are quiet and don't deal with problems, and don't voice them. Those that identify prolbmes are themselves the problem. A new world order. -- Jeff |
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On 3/22/2014 1:56 PM, Leon wrote:
You might want to think close to double that time table if you want to see a dozen other places. Yellowstone alone could take you 3~4 days if you want to see it all. And while you are near Las Vegas, Page, Arizona at Lake Powell is beautiful. The all day train ride from Durango CO. to Silverton Co and back should be on your bucket list. Gunnison CO, Black Canyon of the Gunnison is a treasure. Ouray CO has breath taking scenes along the million dollar highway. ........ The train looks interesting. I'll have to look it all over. We had planned to go last year, but my wife had surgery and it was a long recovery. I've driven cross country east to west twice and flew back and had limited time. This trip I want to do at a more leisurely pace. |
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Leon wrote: You might want to think close to double that time table if you want to see a dozen other places. Yellowstone alone could take you 3~4 days if you want to see it all. And while you are near Las Vegas, Page, Arizona at Lake Powell is beautiful. The all day train ride from Durango CO. to Silverton Co and back should be on your bucket list. Gunnison CO, Black Canyon of the Gunnison is a treasure. Ouray CO has breath taking scenes along the million dollar highway. ........ ------------------------------------------------- "Ed Pawlowski" wrote: The train looks interesting. ------------------------------------------------ BTDT, it's a fun day. If you do it on your way to Vegas, you can also drive thru Monument Valley on the way in Utah and the "Four Corners". There is also Pikes Peak. Lew Lew |
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"Lew Hodgett" wrote in news:532e0281$0$1326
: BTDT, it's a fun day. If you do it on your way to Vegas, you can also drive thru Monument Valley on the way in Utah and the "Four Corners". There is also Pikes Peak. Lew I've driven and ridden the cog railway up Pike's Peak. The cog railway is more fun, but the drive up the road is something to experience once. The drawback to the cog railway is they limit your time at the top. Still, a great trip and worth doing. Puckdropper -- Make it to fit, don't make it fit. |
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On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 14:15:58 -0400, woodchucker
wrote: I'm the other way, un-employed and doing more and more at each job, for less money. Jobs are short lived, and layoffs keep happening. Also the terrain has changed, and those in charge are foriegn, and the value is very skewed, they place more value in people who are quiet and don't deal with problems, and don't voice them. Those that identify prolbmes are themselves the problem. A new world order. If I had to deal with all of that, I'd be retired. I work for a small company. My boss is the owner. He spends 3 months in Florida plus some other trips. I've been there 24 years and with few exceptions, everyone has been there for 10+ years and knows what to do. That makes my job easy. |
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"Puckdropper" puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com wrote in message eb.com... "Lew Hodgett" wrote in news:532e0281$0$1326 : BTDT, it's a fun day. If you do it on your way to Vegas, you can also drive thru Monument Valley on the way in Utah and the "Four Corners". There is also Pikes Peak. Pikes Peak is over-rated IMO. Dave in SoTex |
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"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message b.com... Leon wrote: You might want to think close to double that time table if you want to see a dozen other places. Yellowstone alone could take you 3~4 days if you want to see it all. And while you are near Las Vegas, Page, Arizona at Lake Powell is beautiful. The all day train ride from Durango CO. to Silverton Co and back should be on your bucket list. Gunnison CO, Black Canyon of the Gunnison is a treasure. Ouray CO has breath taking scenes along the million dollar highway. ........ ------------------------------------------------- "Ed Pawlowski" wrote: The train looks interesting. ------------------------------------------------ BTDT, it's a fun day. If you do it on your way to Vegas, you can also drive thru Monument Valley on the way in Utah and the "Four Corners". Monument Valley . . . Arizona? Dave in SoTex |
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On 3/23/2014 8:04 AM, Dave in Texas wrote:
"Puckdropper" puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com wrote in message eb.com... "Lew Hodgett" wrote in news:532e0281$0$1326 : BTDT, it's a fun day. If you do it on your way to Vegas, you can also drive thru Monument Valley on the way in Utah and the "Four Corners". There is also Pikes Peak. Pikes Peak is over-rated IMO. Dave in SoTex It is cool if you want to see snow in July. ;~) |
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On 3/23/2014 8:05 AM, Dave in Texas wrote:
"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message b.com... Leon wrote: You might want to think close to double that time table if you want to see a dozen other places. Yellowstone alone could take you 3~4 days if you want to see it all. And while you are near Las Vegas, Page, Arizona at Lake Powell is beautiful. The all day train ride from Durango CO. to Silverton Co and back should be on your bucket list. Gunnison CO, Black Canyon of the Gunnison is a treasure. Ouray CO has breath taking scenes along the million dollar highway. ........ ------------------------------------------------- "Ed Pawlowski" wrote: The train looks interesting. ------------------------------------------------ BTDT, it's a fun day. If you do it on your way to Vegas, you can also drive thru Monument Valley on the way in Utah and the "Four Corners". Monument Valley . . . Arizona? Dave in SoTex He was/is close Monument Valley is a region that is centered about 1/2 mile south of the Utah/Arizona border. Four Corners OTOH is OK to see if you happen to be on that highway. No reason to go otherwise as it is simply a medallion marker in the middle of the desert. |
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On Sun, 23 Mar 2014 08:41:31 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet
wrote: On 3/23/2014 8:04 AM, Dave in Texas wrote: "Puckdropper" puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com wrote in message eb.com... "Lew Hodgett" wrote in news:532e0281$0$1326 : BTDT, it's a fun day. If you do it on your way to Vegas, you can also drive thru Monument Valley on the way in Utah and the "Four Corners". There is also Pikes Peak. Pikes Peak is over-rated IMO. Dave in SoTex It is cool if you want to see snow in July. ;~) "Cool"? Really? |
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On Sun, 23 Mar 2014 01:45:14 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 14:15:58 -0400, woodchucker wrote: I'm the other way, un-employed and doing more and more at each job, for less money. Jobs are short lived, and layoffs keep happening. Also the terrain has changed, and those in charge are foriegn, and the value is very skewed, they place more value in people who are quiet and don't deal with problems, and don't voice them. Those that identify prolbmes are themselves the problem. A new world order. If I had to deal with all of that, I'd be retired. I work for a small company. My boss is the owner. He spends 3 months in Florida plus some other trips. I've been there 24 years and with few exceptions, everyone has been there for 10+ years and knows what to do. That makes my job easy. I now work[*] for a very large foreign company but in this case it's the parent company that's been sick. The US operation is growing steadily (we've at least doubled the number of employees since I started 2-1/2 years ago) and we're getting far more autonomy because of it. It's a great place to work but that's really my immediate boss' fault. ;-) [*] Retired from a F-10 company, after 30+ years, and then contracted to a defense company (what an eye-opener) and worked for a small company for a few. |
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On 3/23/2014 10:00 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 23 Mar 2014 09:52:00 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote: On 3/23/2014 9:25 AM, wrote: On Sun, 23 Mar 2014 08:41:31 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote: On 3/23/2014 8:04 AM, Dave in Texas wrote: "Puckdropper" puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com wrote in message eb.com... "Lew Hodgett" wrote in news:532e0281$0$1326 : BTDT, it's a fun day. If you do it on your way to Vegas, you can also drive thru Monument Valley on the way in Utah and the "Four Corners". There is also Pikes Peak. Pikes Peak is over-rated IMO. Dave in SoTex It is cool if you want to see snow in July. ;~) "Cool"? Really? Yes really. The peak is above the tree line so the altitude is pretty high. When in the Rocky mountains there is almost always a daily rain event. Actually if you use Google Earth and take a look around, at ground level at Pikes Peak. you can see clear skys in one direction and in the opposite direction the peak being socked in with clouds, looks like fog. With that cloud cover you often get snow. It's cold at the top of the peek. Let me try that again... Cheap double entendre? Really? ;-) LOL, I thought you might be pull'n something. |
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On Sun, 23 Mar 2014 08:04:34 -0500, "Dave in Texas"
wrote: "Puckdropper" puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com wrote in message web.com... "Lew Hodgett" wrote in news:532e0281$0$1326 : BTDT, it's a fun day. If you do it on your way to Vegas, you can also drive thru Monument Valley on the way in Utah and the "Four Corners". There is also Pikes Peak. Pikes Peak is over-rated IMO. Dave in SoTex On the other side of the sountry, I've dome the Mount Washington Auto Road twice. Once with the '72 Vauxhaul HC (Magnum) AKA Firenza 2300, and once with the 1973 Ambassador wagon.. The old Vaux did the whole trip in second gear, passing steeming Oldsmobiles and Pontiacs and other assorted big American Iron. The Ambassador, being an automatic, looked after itself pretty well but was getting warm by the top. Scared the wife silly!! (she has a fear of heights - had to keep reminding her that her bum was still 21 inches from the ground!!) |
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On 3/23/2014 10:52 AM, Leon wrote:
Yes really. The peak is above the tree line so the altitude is pretty high. I was stationed there in 1969.... Take a coat if you plan to drive to the top.... Snow on the top in July is normal at 14,114 feet. The road trip back then was partly gravel above 10,000 ft. When you pass the goats and the tree line, you are pretty high up. We regularly sent up Air/Mountain rescue choppers to drag some dumb ass off the face of cliff. Very rugged country. On a clear day you can see Albuquerque, New Mexico. |