"Pat Barber" wrote:

We regularly sent up Air/Mountain rescue choppers to drag some
dumb ass off the face of cliff.

Very rugged country.

On a clear day you can see Albuquerque, New Mexico.

-------------------------------------------------------
Around here it is the Los Angeles National Forest and
the L/A County search and rescue chopper teams to
produce basically the same results.

BTW, toss in a few brown bears, some mountain lions and
some coyotes just to make things interesting.

Lew

On 3/24/2014 4:58 PM, Pat Barber wrote:
On 3/23/2014 10:52 AM, Leon wrote:
Yes really. The peak is above the tree line so the altitude is pretty
high.

I was stationed there in 1969....

Take a coat if you plan to drive to the top....

Snow on the top in July is normal at 14,114 feet.


Hmm, not sure I should take my wife to that altitude, but it would be a
fun drive.

On 3/24/2014 8:12 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 3/24/2014 4:58 PM, Pat Barber wrote:
On 3/23/2014 10:52 AM, Leon wrote:
Yes really. The peak is above the tree line so the altitude is pretty
high.

I was stationed there in 1969....

Take a coat if you plan to drive to the top....

Snow on the top in July is normal at 14,114 feet.


Hmm, not sure I should take my wife to that altitude, but it would be a
fun drive.


It's not the ride up.. its the ride down.

My wife had a full load of kids (speed skating team) in the rental car.
She had it in first, but the person in front of her was trying to keep
the speed to 5mph she said :-( so her car being heavier overheated the
brakes. They had to wait close to 40 minutes for the brakes to cool.

There are checkpoints to see if you can continue down.

Wish I was there. I was working at the time and my boss would not let be
have off.

--
Jeff

On 3/24/2014 8:22 PM, woodchucker wrote:


Snow on the top in July is normal at 14,114 feet.


Hmm, not sure I should take my wife to that altitude, but it would be a
fun drive.


It's not the ride up.. its the ride down.

My wife had a full load of kids (speed skating team) in the rental car.
She had it in first, but the person in front of her was trying to keep
the speed to 5mph she said :-( so her car being heavier overheated the
brakes. They had to wait close to 40 minutes for the brakes to cool.

There are checkpoints to see if you can continue down.

In her case, I'm more concerned about breathing at altitude. She's had
heart problems in the past.

On 3/24/2014 9:01 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

In her case, I'm more concerned about breathing at altitude. She's had
heart problems in the past.


Colorado Springs is the "mile high" city and you keep going to
14,000 ft and breathing could be a issue.

My first bout of PT at Ft Carson, I damn near died from a lack
of air. It takes a few weeks to acclimate yourself to that new
altitude. It's really thin air at 14,000 ft.

Pat Barber wrote:
On 3/24/2014 9:01 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

In her case, I'm more concerned about breathing at altitude. She's had
heart problems in the past.


Colorado Springs is the "mile high" city and you keep going to
14,000 ft and breathing could be a issue.

My first bout of PT at Ft Carson, I damn near died from a lack
of air. It takes a few weeks to acclimate yourself to that new
altitude. It's really thin air at 14,000 ft.





Denver,Co. is the "Mile High City"

On 3/25/2014 5:11 PM, JAS wrote:
Pat Barber wrote:

Denver,Co. is the "Mile High City"

I was really referring to the altitude, not
taking anything away Denver.

http://www.visitcos.com/colorado-spr...-altitude-tips

On 3/22/2014 11:56 AM, Leon wrote:
On 3/22/2014 12:18 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 09:01:57 -0700, "jloomis"
wrote:



Those poesies keep smelling better and better.

About time to do some sailing while still able and warmer
weather is coming to enjoy it.

What's your way to enjoy those poesies?

Lew



I'm still employed, but doing less and less and taking time off more
and more. I have a very unusual job in that I can come and go as I
please, take off all the time I want, and I like the people I work
with. No stress, no deadlines, no good reason to outright retire.

We've been traveling a bit more. This summer I hope to take a very
long road trip from here in CT to granddaughter's graduation in Las
Vegas with stops on the way back at Yellowstone, Mr. Rushmore and a
dozen other places along the way. Three to four weeks with no
timetable other than the graduation.



You might want to think close to double that time table if you want to
see a dozen other places. Yellowstone alone could take you 3~4 days if
you want to see it all. And while you are near Las Vegas, Page, Arizona
at Lake Powell is beautiful. The all day train ride from Durango CO. to
Silverton Co and back should be on your bucket list. Gunnison CO, Black
Canyon of the Gunnison is a treasure. Ouray CO has breath taking scenes
along the million dollar highway. ........

3-4 days Won't begin to cover it at Yellowstone. We had reservations
for 5 days then had to leave, no vacancies (Fishing Bridge) We spent a
few more days at a park in Gardiner, MT. If you're that close to the
Grand Tetons make a stop there.
If you're able to make The Black Canyon by all means see the Colorado
National Monument at Grand Junction.

If you enjoy train rides (steam locomotive, narrow gauge) take the ride
from Durango but you'll have more and better photo opportunities if your
drive.

On 3/22/2014 8:45 PM, Puckdropper wrote:
"Lew Hodgett" wrote in news:532e0281$0$1326
:

BTDT, it's a fun day.

If you do it on your way to Vegas, you can also drive thru Monument
Valley on the way in Utah and the "Four Corners".

There is also Pikes Peak.

Lew


I've driven and ridden the cog railway up Pike's Peak. The cog railway is
more fun, but the drive up the road is something to experience once. The
drawback to the cog railway is they limit your time at the top. Still, a
great trip and worth doing.

Puckdropper


The problem we had with the Gog RR was the few opportunities for
pictures. By driving (there are several "pull-offs") you'll see a lot
more scenery. If you like pictures of Engelmann Spruce you'll enjoy the
Cog train...

On 3/23/2014 7:04 AM, Dave in Texas wrote:

"Puckdropper" puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com wrote in message
eb.com...
"Lew Hodgett" wrote in news:532e0281$0$1326
:

BTDT, it's a fun day.

If you do it on your way to Vegas, you can also drive thru Monument
Valley on the way in Utah and the "Four Corners".

There is also Pikes Peak.

Pikes Peak is over-rated IMO.

Dave in SoTex

MMM, yeah, if that's all you want to see in the area but there's also
Garden of The Gods and the Miramont Castle, museums, The Air Force
Academy...

On 3/23/2014 9:00 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 23 Mar 2014 09:52:00 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet
wrote:

On 3/23/2014 9:25 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 23 Mar 2014 08:41:31 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet
wrote:

On 3/23/2014 8:04 AM, Dave in Texas wrote:

"Puckdropper" puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com wrote in message
eb.com...
"Lew Hodgett" wrote in news:532e0281$0$1326
:

BTDT, it's a fun day.

If you do it on your way to Vegas, you can also drive thru Monument
Valley on the way in Utah and the "Four Corners".

There is also Pikes Peak.

Pikes Peak is over-rated IMO.

Dave in SoTex

It is cool if you want to see snow in July. ;~)

"Cool"? Really?


Yes really. The peak is above the tree line so the altitude is pretty
high. When in the Rocky mountains there is almost always a daily rain
event. Actually if you use Google Earth and take a look around, at
ground level at Pikes Peak. you can see clear skys in one direction and
in the opposite direction the peak being socked in with clouds, looks
like fog. With that cloud cover you often get snow. It's cold at the
top of the peek.

Let me try that again...

Cheap double entendre? Really? ;-)


Cool is nice when you're from El Paso. ;-)

On 3/24/2014 2:58 PM, Pat Barber wrote:
On 3/23/2014 10:52 AM, Leon wrote:
Yes really. The peak is above the tree line so the altitude is pretty
high.

I was stationed there in 1969....

Take a coat if you plan to drive to the top....

Snow on the top in July is normal at 14,114 feet.

The road trip back then was partly gravel above 10,000 ft.

When you pass the goats and the tree line, you are pretty high
up.

We regularly sent up Air/Mountain rescue choppers to drag some
dumb ass off the face of cliff.

Very rugged country.

On a clear day you can see Albuquerque, New Mexico.


Paved all the way now.

On 3/23/2014 7:49 AM, Leon wrote:
On 3/23/2014 8:05 AM, Dave in Texas wrote:

"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message
b.com...


Leon wrote:



You might want to think close to double that time table if you want to
see a dozen other places. Yellowstone alone could take you 3~4
days if
you want to see it all. And while you are near Las Vegas, Page,
Arizona
at Lake Powell is beautiful. The all day train ride from Durango
CO. to
Silverton Co and back should be on your bucket list. Gunnison CO,
Black
Canyon of the Gunnison is a treasure. Ouray CO has breath taking
scenes
along the million dollar highway. ........
-------------------------------------------------
"Ed Pawlowski" wrote:

The train looks interesting.
------------------------------------------------
BTDT, it's a fun day.

If you do it on your way to Vegas, you can also drive thru Monument
Valley on the way in Utah and the "Four Corners".

Monument Valley . . . Arizona?

Dave in SoTex


He was/is close Monument Valley is a region that is centered about 1/2
mile south of the Utah/Arizona border.

Four Corners OTOH is OK to see if you happen to be on that highway. No
reason to go otherwise as it is simply a medallion marker in the middle
of the desert.

But if you're near Four Corners it's worth it to make it to Mesa Verde.
Fascinating native ruins, er...uh...uninhabited native American
archeological features. Then continue on to Durango.

"Max" wrote

3-4 days Won't begin to cover it at Yellowstone. We had reservations for
5 days then had to leave, no vacancies (Fishing Bridge) We spent a few
more days at a park in Gardiner, MT. If you're that close to the Grand
Tetons make a stop there.
If you're able to make The Black Canyon by all means see the Colorado
National Monument at Grand Junction.

If you enjoy train rides (steam locomotive, narrow gauge) take the ride
from Durango but you'll have more and better photo opportunities if your
drive.

I agree, completely. 6 days was not enough for me. 10 days, min. and I
would rather do at least two weeks, or more and I am sure I would still want
more.

It is by far one of the coolest places, and I have been in well over half
the states.
--
Jim in NC


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On 3/26/2014 8:01 PM, Max wrote:
On 3/22/2014 11:56 AM, Leon wrote:
On 3/22/2014 12:18 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 09:01:57 -0700, "jloomis"
wrote:



Those poesies keep smelling better and better.

About time to do some sailing while still able and warmer
weather is coming to enjoy it.

What's your way to enjoy those poesies?

Lew



I'm still employed, but doing less and less and taking time off more
and more. I have a very unusual job in that I can come and go as I
please, take off all the time I want, and I like the people I work
with. No stress, no deadlines, no good reason to outright retire.

We've been traveling a bit more. This summer I hope to take a very
long road trip from here in CT to granddaughter's graduation in Las
Vegas with stops on the way back at Yellowstone, Mr. Rushmore and a
dozen other places along the way. Three to four weeks with no
timetable other than the graduation.



You might want to think close to double that time table if you want to
see a dozen other places. Yellowstone alone could take you 3~4 days if
you want to see it all. And while you are near Las Vegas, Page, Arizona
at Lake Powell is beautiful. The all day train ride from Durango CO. to
Silverton Co and back should be on your bucket list. Gunnison CO, Black
Canyon of the Gunnison is a treasure. Ouray CO has breath taking scenes
along the million dollar highway. ........

3-4 days Won't begin to cover it at Yellowstone. We had reservations
for 5 days then had to leave, no vacancies (Fishing Bridge) We spent a
few more days at a park in Gardiner, MT. If you're that close to the
Grand Tetons make a stop there.
If you're able to make The Black Canyon by all means see the Colorado
National Monument at Grand Junction.

If you enjoy train rides (steam locomotive, narrow gauge) take the ride
from Durango but you'll have more and better photo opportunities if your
drive.

I have driven and taken the train ride on more than one occasion. I'll
take the train for the scenery, I have taken hundreds of pictures on the
train trip. I was however always in the open car so the scenes were great.

Max wrote in news:53337a8d$0$7227$c3e8da3
:


MMM, yeah, if that's all you want to see in the area but there's also
Garden of The Gods and the Miramont Castle, museums, The Air Force
Academy...


Don't forget the Flying W ranch. A neat old western town and chuckwagon
supper with a musical show afterwards. Always a good evening (but better
in the summer on a clear night).

Speaking of friends (like this thread started out), there's a family friend
who lives in the Springs area who's 98 years old. She's getting older, but
still going. Last time I saw her, her mind was still quite sharp.

Puckdropper
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