On Thu, 03 Oct 2013 07:07:50 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 02 Oct 2013 17:48:41 -0400, wrote:
More importantly, lighter. They could sting if thrown hard enough and
hit squarely, but a concussion? Not likely. If they used soccer
balls to play Dodge Ball, did they use golf balls to play table
tennis?

You just love being an asshole don't you? I guess that says it all.

LOL! Have you ever looked in the mirror or did it shatter? I'm not
the one threatening violence, while decrying violence, dip****.

The fact is that if you use the wrong tool you can get hurt. (Duh!)

The really sad part about all of this is that a lot of the current
problems today had their origins a number of years ago ~ a time when
assholes like you would have been running rampant.

More bull****, but that's to be expected from your sort.

It's highly doubtful we will ever meet. But, if we ever did, I'd get a
great deal of smacking your miserable face ~ even if it meant having
the crap beat out of me.

More threats. Nice. ...and I'm the asshole. What a moron!

You see you miserable prick, you don't deserve any of the respect
associated with getting punched.

You're too much. You would be funny if you weren't such a sad excuse
for a human. Lefties are that way, though.

On Saturday, September 28, 2013 8:50:30 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 09:34:04 -0700 (PDT), RP wrote:

Back when I was a kid we never used knives or guns on people we were ****ed off at. We used the time old tradition of beating the **** out of each other and then being best friends afterwards.



And, that was my world growing up too. Unfortunately, for whatever

reason, it's not that way anymore. There's a lot of advantages in

today's society, but there seems to be just as many problems with it

too. Guess that's the status quo.

I have to assume that you guys were not the ones getting beat up all of the time, just the bullies doing the beating. Well guess what, the victims are starting to arm themselves and Columbine and Sandy Hook are the result....

On Thu, 3 Oct 2013 13:27:29 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
I have to assume that you guys were not the ones getting beat up all
of the time just the bullies doing the beating. Well guess what, the
victims are starting to arm themselves and Columbine and Sandy
Hook are the result....

That really sad thing is, that twits like krw would have everyone
think that it's just a part of growing up and people should get over
it. Unfortunately, a number of people never get over it.

On 10/3/2013 4:49 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 3 Oct 2013 13:27:29 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
I have to assume that you guys were not the ones getting beat up all
of the time just the bullies doing the beating. Well guess what, the
victims are starting to arm themselves and Columbine and Sandy
Hook are the result....

That really sad thing is, that twits like krw would have everyone
think that it's just a part of growing up and people should get over
it. Unfortunately, a number of people never get over it.

Mature people, which I must admit there are becoming less and less, do
not need to revert to violence. There are many creative ways to get
around people who stand in your way with out shooting them.

Mature people are willing to talk to other people and not stand and dig
their heels in and say their flawed opinions are the only way something
can be done. They are willing to listen to other ideas and modify what
they have created based on the opinion of others.

wrote:
On Saturday, September 28, 2013 8:50:30 PM UTC-4,
wrote:
On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 09:34:04 -0700 (PDT), RP
wrote:

Back when I was a kid we never used knives or guns on people we
were ****ed off at. We used the time old tradition of beating the
**** out of each other and then being best friends afterwards.



And, that was my world growing up too. Unfortunately, for whatever

reason, it's not that way anymore. There's a lot of advantages in

today's society, but there seems to be just as many problems with it

too. Guess that's the status quo.

I have to assume that you guys were not the ones getting beat up all
of the time, just the bullies doing the beating. Well guess what, the
victims are starting to arm themselves and Columbine and Sandy Hook
are the result....

Really? Did you read anything about the perpetrators of these crimes? I
don't recall any history of having been bullied.

--

-Mike-

On Thu, 3 Oct 2013 13:27:29 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Saturday, September 28, 2013 8:50:30 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 09:34:04 -0700 (PDT), RP wrote:

Back when I was a kid we never used knives or guns on people we were ****ed off at. We used the time old tradition of beating the **** out of each other and then being best friends afterwards.



And, that was my world growing up too. Unfortunately, for whatever

reason, it's not that way anymore. There's a lot of advantages in

today's society, but there seems to be just as many problems with it

too. Guess that's the status quo.

I have to assume that you guys were not the ones getting beat up all of the time, just the bullies doing the beating. Well guess what, the victims are starting to arm themselves and Columbine and Sandy Hook are the result....

You know what they say about ASS-U-ME. It certainly fits here.

Absurd. Crazy is as crazy does.

On Thu, 03 Oct 2013 16:49:19 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 3 Oct 2013 13:27:29 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
I have to assume that you guys were not the ones getting beat up all
of the time just the bullies doing the beating. Well guess what, the
victims are starting to arm themselves and Columbine and Sandy
Hook are the result....

That really sad thing is, that twits like krw would have everyone
think that it's just a part of growing up and people should get over
it. Unfortunately, a number of people never get over it.

Proving, once again, what a stupid asshole you are. Keep it up. I
don't think everyone has heard you yet. Don't bother changing your
nym. Your veneer is to thin to make it work.

On Thu, 03 Oct 2013 22:43:26 -0400, wrote:
You do have a LOT of time on your hands. AND you're a violent
asshole. Perhaps I should remind you of the laws against assault and
stalking? Nah, you're just another ****ing blowhard bully who never
grew up.

Really? Is that the best you can do? You're just another low class
flake with no life.

On Thu, 03 Oct 2013 23:03:39 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 03 Oct 2013 22:43:26 -0400, wrote:
You do have a LOT of time on your hands. AND you're a violent
asshole. Perhaps I should remind you of the laws against assault and
stalking? Nah, you're just another ****ing blowhard bully who never
grew up.

Really? Is that the best you can do? You're just another low class
flake with no life.

I've got you pretty well nailed. Anyone who resorts to violent
attacks at the drop of a hat has some serious issues. Seek help,
asshole.

On 10/2/2013 3:46 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 01 Oct 2013 21:47:18 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 1 Oct 2013 21:38:39 -0400, "Mike Marlow"
It's not that I doubted you as much as I was certain there had to be more to
the story - as is the case. The discussion was about dodge ball and
throwing volley balls at people is not dodge ball.

If that's current dodge ball, then it's changed from when I was a kid.
Back then, they *were* volley balls or something else of similar
weight and hardness.

I doubt that you're a lot older than I. Even fifty years ago they
were using (ready for it?) "Dodge Balls" to play Dodge Ball. Soccer
balls were used to play soccer. We even used footballs to play foot
ball and basketballs to play basketball. But perhaps someone knew
something in our schools.

The way you're talking about current dodge balls, you're making them
sound not too much harder than nerf projectiles.

Good grief!

Here's what we used:
http://www.amazon.com/School-Smart-P...layground+ball

On Fri, 04 Oct 2013 00:46:07 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 03 Oct 2013 23:03:39 -0400, wrote:
I've got you pretty well nailed. Anyone who resorts to violent
attacks at the drop of a hat has some serious issues. Seek help,
asshole.

Hmmm, no more names, just facts. I search out your nym and it shows
all your activities in dozens of highly questionable examples. It's
just you I'm attacking and you can't stand it.

On Fri, 04 Oct 2013 00:22:24 -0600, Just Wondering
wrote:

On 10/2/2013 3:46 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 01 Oct 2013 21:47:18 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 1 Oct 2013 21:38:39 -0400, "Mike Marlow"
It's not that I doubted you as much as I was certain there had to be more to
the story - as is the case. The discussion was about dodge ball and
throwing volley balls at people is not dodge ball.

If that's current dodge ball, then it's changed from when I was a kid.
Back then, they *were* volley balls or something else of similar
weight and hardness.

I doubt that you're a lot older than I. Even fifty years ago they
were using (ready for it?) "Dodge Balls" to play Dodge Ball. Soccer
balls were used to play soccer. We even used footballs to play foot
ball and basketballs to play basketball. But perhaps someone knew
something in our schools.

The way you're talking about current dodge balls, you're making them
sound not too much harder than nerf projectiles.

Good grief!

Here's what we used:
http://www.amazon.com/School-Smart-P...layground+ball

Yes, that's what we used fifty years ago. They're not nearly as heavy
as a soccer ball and a lot softer. If that still stings too much,
deflate to your wussiness.

On Fri, 04 Oct 2013 03:30:30 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 04 Oct 2013 00:46:07 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 03 Oct 2013 23:03:39 -0400, wrote:
I've got you pretty well nailed. Anyone who resorts to violent
attacks at the drop of a hat has some serious issues. Seek help,
asshole.

Hmmm, no more names, just facts.

Facts! You threatened violence, many times. What makes it hilarious
is that you were whining about violence. Like every lefty, you're
nothing more than a hypocritical control freak.

I search out your nym and it shows
all your activities

Stalking is the sign of a sick mind.

in dozens of highly questionable examples.

You *obviously* didn't read them. Given that you're a stupid lefty
(redundant) you likely get your current-events that way too - read no
deeper than the headlines.

It's just you I'm attacking and you can't stand it.

You really are a stupid ass. I'm laughing in your face. Yes, I
learned a long time ago to stand up to bullies. You *ARE* a bully.
It's the lefty's way.

On Fri, 04 Oct 2013 09:00:46 -0400, wrote:
You really are a stupid ass. I'm laughing in your face. Yes, I
learned a long time ago to stand up to bullies. You *ARE* a bully.
It's the lefty's way.

grin Immature little troll aren't you? But, at your age, it's not
immaturity is it? You're in early senility and it's the only life
you've got. All you can do is keep replying in a feeble attempt to
keep the troll going. Some lack of life you have. Well, I'm finished
feeding your troll.

At least I have sense to know what you are. Go ahead, do your little
victory dance and claim how you've fought me off or scared me away.
Any critical reply you make is confirmation of what I've said.

I'm done.

On Fri, 04 Oct 2013 10:35:55 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 04 Oct 2013 09:00:46 -0400, wrote:
You really are a stupid ass. I'm laughing in your face. Yes, I
learned a long time ago to stand up to bullies. You *ARE* a bully.
It's the lefty's way.

grin Immature little troll aren't you? But, at your age, it's not
immaturity is it? You're in early senility and it's the only life
you've got. All you can do is keep replying in a feeble attempt to
keep the troll going. Some lack of life you have. Well, I'm finished
feeding your troll.

You can keep up your delusions as long as you want. I'm still
laughing at you. You are a small little lefty.

At least I have sense to know what you are. Go ahead, do your little
victory dance and claim how you've fought me off or scared me away.
Any critical reply you make is confirmation of what I've said.

Victory? You're a born loser. There is no victory over the small
mind. It just is.

Seek professional help.

Edward A. Falk wrote:
In article ,
Mike Marlow wrote:

Really? Did you read anything about the perpetrators of these
crimes? I don't recall any history of having been bullied.

IIRC, the killers at Columbine *were* the bullies.

I thought they were some obscure cult of their own - not bullies at all.
Until the end of course...

--

-Mike-

On Tue, 8 Oct 2013 21:41:42 -0400, "Mike Marlow"
wrote:

Edward A. Falk wrote:
In article ,
Mike Marlow wrote:

Really? Did you read anything about the perpetrators of these
crimes? I don't recall any history of having been bullied.

IIRC, the killers at Columbine *were* the bullies.

I thought they were some obscure cult of their own - not bullies at all.
Until the end of course...

There are a lot of myths going around about Columbine but in the end,
they were just crazies.

wrote:
On Tue, 8 Oct 2013 21:41:42 -0400, "Mike Marlow"
wrote:

Edward A. Falk wrote:
In article ,
Mike Marlow wrote:

Really? Did you read anything about the perpetrators of these
crimes? I don't recall any history of having been bullied.

IIRC, the killers at Columbine *were* the bullies.

I thought they were some obscure cult of their own - not bullies at
all. Until the end of course...

There are a lot of myths going around about Columbine but in the end,
they were just crazies.

Quite true. As time goes on, people get further from the reality of an
event and it becomes easier to make claims that don't even relate to the
matter.

--

-Mike-

"woodchucker" wrote in message
...

On 9/28/2013 1:31 PM, dadiOH wrote:
"Leon" wrote in message

"Mike Marlow" wrote:
I'd have a problem with a school principal sticking his
nose into my business this way...



http://www.infowars.com/seventh-grad...y-gun-at-home/



And, the nosy neighbor as well...



Jeez!

IMHO, what I am about to say is my view, I'm sure some
one may argue but in another thread I made a comment
about why I believe our society in going in the direction
it is going in.

First of all, political correctness gone over board for
sure.

+20

Second, the parent of the child. The child is the
parents property until he gets on the bus and goes to
school, then he is the schools property. WRONG, WRONG,
WRONG

I think you may be misunderstanding her thoughts. I read it to mean,
"Butt
the hell out of my son's and my life unless and until he is on school
property. Only then do you have any authority."

IMHO the child is the victim of a society that is more
and more causing these type situations to come up.
Fifty years ago this behavior by a child would have been
acceptable and in most instances expected of a male
child..

The whole bloody country is turning into a nation of wusses, worrying
about
trivialities.

We have hotshot lawyers fishing for class action suits over almost
anything.

If some dimwit gets a scratch, they are off to the emergency room, then to
a
slip & fall lawyer. They view even the most trivial injury as a pass to
riches.

I smoke. I don't do so around non-smokers. I resent some **** ant in a
car
next to me coming unglued if he/she sees me puffing a cigarette.

Lead is useful.

Asbestos is (was) useful.

Molds (some) are useful. Some are not but they aren't a death warrant.

Exactly when did common sense leave and where did it go?


This is going to sound sexist and it probably is, but I think when woman
became more powerful in our society this happened. Too man with no
understanding, and a very loud bark, and even a painful bite.

Alot of this is wussy like you say... and that comes from the female
side of things.
================================================== ========================================
I agree.

wrote in message ...

On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 09:09:32 -0500, Leon wrote:

"Mike Marlow" wrote:
I'd have a problem with a school principal sticking his nose into my
business this way...



http://www.infowars.com/seventh-grad...y-gun-at-home/



And, the nosy neighbor as well...



Jeez!

IMHO, what I am about to say is my view, I'm sure some one may argue but
in another thread I made a comment about why I believe our society in going
in the direction it is going in.

First of all, political correctness gone over board for sure.

Second, the parent of the child. The child is the parents property until
he gets on the bus and goes to school, then he is the schools property.
WRONG, WRONG, WRONG

Third, the child seems to be mature enough to be worried about not being
able to go to college because of this incident.
In so much that the teenager has the fore site to even make that comment,
that comment seems to be more of a reaction of a punishing threat made to
him after the fact. I'm not sure that a teenager that is not concerned
about displaying a toy gun in public, especially with all the news coverage
that has been going around, even has college on the radar.

Yes the student is an immature child but, IMHO, he is making comments that
a more mature person would be making.

IMHO the child is the victim of a society that is more and more causing
these type situations to come up.
Fifty years ago this behavior by a child would have been acceptable and in
most instances expected of a male child..

The parent describing her child as her property and then indicating that
the child becomes the schools property is a clear indicator that the parent
expects some one else, the government, to take responsibility of the child
and his actions. The same parent will probably **** a brick if the child
creates a disturbance in school for the same reason and dispenses
punishment. Because that is a 100% probability the schools can only stay
out of trouble and public scrutiny by issuing a punishment with little to
no effect.

IMHO, if you expect others to be responsible for your child they should
also have the authority to take appropriate measures when your child
misbehaves or causes a disturbance. If you don't believe that those that
have "taken responsibility" of your " property" should hold the child
responsible for his or her actions and issue appropriate discipline to
prevent further problems then you need to realize that "your property" is
your responsibility 100% of the time. You need to be responsible for your
child's actions as much as him or her.

First of all, a child is NOT property of anyone but himself.
================================================== ===========================
Someone should have told my father about that.

"Leon" wrote in message
...

On 9/28/2013 3:52 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
RP wrote:

I don't understand how the principal even thinks for a minute
that he has any jurisdiction over that child. I would take that
to the school board immediately. That kid shouldn't have to wait
until January to have them convene.


First of all I would get the "actual facts" rather than depend on the
media, which usually has an agenda, and find out what really went on. I
think the actual events may have played out differently with perhaps a
lot of what actually went on having been left out of the story to make
it sound more sensational.
================================================== ====================================
After looking at the site again, I see that this was put out by Alex Jones.
He is very well known in the conspiracy theory crowd. When he first started
his BS, he was on a "Christian" shortwave station (praise the lord and pass
the ammunition). When he first started his schtick, he was not very good at
it and he could be caught in his lies quite easily. Over the past twenty
years, he has gotten much better at it. He is much more creative in twisting
things and keeping up on his lies. He makes a living trying to stir people
up claiming that the government is trying to enslave the people. The U.N. is
going to militarily invade the U.S and send any dissidents to concentration
camps run by F.E.M.A. Don't believe it? Just ask Alex, he'll tell you. Yes,
further research is needed.

"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
...

On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 05:14:14 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 19:26:24 -0400, wrote:
I don't consider banning dodge ball as an improvement. They're
actually making things worse, if anything.

Your opinion.


But shared by many
==================================
Most.

On Sat, 12 Oct 2013 18:13:00 -0700, "CW" wrote:

wrote in message ...

On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 09:09:32 -0500, Leon wrote:

"Mike Marlow" wrote:
I'd have a problem with a school principal sticking his nose into my
business this way...



http://www.infowars.com/seventh-grad...y-gun-at-home/



And, the nosy neighbor as well...



Jeez!

IMHO, what I am about to say is my view, I'm sure some one may argue but
in another thread I made a comment about why I believe our society in going
in the direction it is going in.

First of all, political correctness gone over board for sure.

Second, the parent of the child. The child is the parents property until
he gets on the bus and goes to school, then he is the schools property.
WRONG, WRONG, WRONG

Third, the child seems to be mature enough to be worried about not being
able to go to college because of this incident.
In so much that the teenager has the fore site to even make that comment,
that comment seems to be more of a reaction of a punishing threat made to
him after the fact. I'm not sure that a teenager that is not concerned
about displaying a toy gun in public, especially with all the news coverage
that has been going around, even has college on the radar.

Yes the student is an immature child but, IMHO, he is making comments that
a more mature person would be making.

IMHO the child is the victim of a society that is more and more causing
these type situations to come up.
Fifty years ago this behavior by a child would have been acceptable and in
most instances expected of a male child..

The parent describing her child as her property and then indicating that
the child becomes the schools property is a clear indicator that the parent
expects some one else, the government, to take responsibility of the child
and his actions. The same parent will probably **** a brick if the child
creates a disturbance in school for the same reason and dispenses
punishment. Because that is a 100% probability the schools can only stay
out of trouble and public scrutiny by issuing a punishment with little to
no effect.

IMHO, if you expect others to be responsible for your child they should
also have the authority to take appropriate measures when your child
misbehaves or causes a disturbance. If you don't believe that those that
have "taken responsibility" of your " property" should hold the child
responsible for his or her actions and issue appropriate discipline to
prevent further problems then you need to realize that "your property" is
your responsibility 100% of the time. You need to be responsible for your
child's actions as much as him or her.

First of all, a child is NOT property of anyone but himself.
================================================= ============================
Someone should have told my father about that.

Perhaps there is a lesson in here somewhere.

"Artemus" wrote in message ...


"Mike Marlow" wrote in message
...

I'd have a problem with a school principal sticking his nose into my
business this way...
http://www.infowars.com/seventh-grad...y-gun-at-home/
And, the nosy neighbor as well...
--
-Mike-


IMNSHO justice would be reinstating both kids immediately and suspending
that
principal for 9 months without pay.
Art


This story was posted by Infowars. Founded by Alex Jones, it is a conspiracy
website with a (well deserved) history of making things up, or in this case,
doing a bit of creative editing to stir things up.

"Larry" wrote in message ...

"Mike Marlow" wrote in
:



I'd have a problem with a school principal sticking his
nose into my business this way...



http://www.infowars.com/seventh-grad...ded-for-nine-m
onths-for-playing-with-toy-gun-at-home/



And, the nosy neighbor as well...



You gotta watch out for infowars.com and make sure you have the
full story. There was discussion of this on another forum I
frequent. While I don't agree with the 9 month suspension, he
broke the law. City code bans the use of BB and pellet guns
within the city limit.

Again, I don't agree with suspension and am not siding with the
decision, in fact I vehemently disagree with it and agree with
most of what has been posted, but the use of such "toys" was
clearly banned in city code.

But airsoft guns are legal. You're right, Infowars can't be trusted. Look up
the real story, there is more to it. The principal was wrong in the charges
though. An airsoft gun does not legally fit the definition of a firearm. The
parents should sue to have that invalidated.

On 10/23/2013 11:34 PM, CW wrote:
"Larry" wrote in message ...

"Mike Marlow" wrote in
:



I'd have a problem with a school principal sticking his
nose into my business this way...



http://www.infowars.com/seventh-grad...ded-for-nine-m
onths-for-playing-with-toy-gun-at-home/



And, the nosy neighbor as well...



You gotta watch out for infowars.com and make sure you have the
full story. There was discussion of this on another forum I
frequent. While I don't agree with the 9 month suspension, he
broke the law. City code bans the use of BB and pellet guns
within the city limit.

Again, I don't agree with suspension and am not siding with the
decision, in fact I vehemently disagree with it and agree with
most of what has been posted, but the use of such "toys" was
clearly banned in city code.

But airsoft guns are legal. You're right, Infowars can't be trusted.
Look up the real story, there is more to it. The principal was wrong in
the charges though. An airsoft gun does not legally fit the definition
of a firearm. The parents should sue to have that invalidated.


Another tragic happening:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...99N02320131024

As far as the Airsoft thing. Another unintended consequence of banning
firearms ... the Japs, unable to own them, are so fixated with making
them as real as possible down to every detail, make them
indistinguishable from the real thing.

Now, some criminals have taken to painting the orange tip (or whatever
the damned color the tips of airsoft stuff is) on real guns to fool police.

Point: damned difficult to blame the police, who want to go home to
their families after work as much as we do, for doing what happened above.

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