I noticed some black flexible ribbed hose used in a dust collection accessories ad at http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=11312&rrt=1 .

I tried some stuff that looks like it that is sold as drainage hose. It is similar to http://www.lowes.com/pd_259812-62059...nch&facetInfo= or http://www.lowes.com/pd_24136-124-04...nch&facetInfo= .

When used on a dust collector, the moving air across the ribs makes it sound like there's a steamboat whistle in the shop.

I've tried different lengths and flows to get away from the resonant frequency with no luck. It only changes pitch.

Has anyone had any luck with this stuff? The price on the clear stuff is outrageous and the wire makes it harder to work with. The black stuff curves easily and neither collapses nor shrinks under vacuum.

On 9/16/2013 7:44 AM, Joe wrote:
I noticed some black flexible ribbed hose used in a dust collection accessories ad at http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=11312&rrt=1 .

I tried some stuff that looks like it that is sold as drainage hose. It is similar to http://www.lowes.com/pd_259812-62059...nch&facetInfo= or http://www.lowes.com/pd_24136-124-04...nch&facetInfo= .

When used on a dust collector, the moving air across the ribs makes it sound like there's a steamboat whistle in the shop.

I've tried different lengths and flows to get away from the resonant frequency with no luck. It only changes pitch.

Has anyone had any luck with this stuff? The price on the clear stuff is outrageous and the wire makes it harder to work with. The black stuff curves easily and neither collapses nor shrinks under vacuum.



First off you should be using 6" diameter hose!


Past that you probably have a leak causing the whistle. I use the 6"
clear corrugated flexible hose, 30', witha 1100 CFM collector and have
no issue with the ribs causing a whistle.

"Joe" wrote in message ...

I noticed some black flexible ribbed hose used in a dust collection
accessories ad at http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=11312&rrt=1 .

I tried some stuff that looks like it that is sold as drainage hose. It is
similar to
http://www.lowes.com/pd_259812-62059-51110_0__?productId=1239335&Ntt=corrugated+pipe+4 +inch&pl=1&currentURL=%3FNtt%3Dcorrugated%2Bpipe%2 B4%2Binch&facetInfo=
or
http://www.lowes.com/pd_24136-124-04510050H_0__?productId=3306084&Ntt=corrugated+pip e+4+inch&pl=1&currentURL=%3FNtt%3Dcorrugated%2Bpi pe%2B4%2Binch&facetInfo=
.

When used on a dust collector, the moving air across the ribs makes it
sound like there's a steamboat whistle in the shop.

Any chance you accidently have the variety with the weep slits? I imagine
they would make all kinds of sounds... ;~)

Has anyone had any luck with this stuff? The price on the clear stuff is outrageous and the wire makes it harder to work with. The black stuff curves easily and neither collapses nor shrinks under vacuum.

Wow, very innovative. It seems that the ridges are quite a bit more pronounced than the flexible plastic. If you run is very long I think you will get quite a bit of friction loss. I think the whistling proves my point of turbulence, etc. I use rigid thin wall irrigation PVC and just use the flex at the very end where a machine needs some freedom to be moved or when sharing a single connection with multiple machines that needs to be detached and moved among them. Then you just need a few pieces of the expensive (but appropriate) flex.

The dust collection guru also says use the biggest pipe the farthest you can. My DC has a 6" inlet so I run 6" rigid right up to near the machine and break down to 4" rigid and finally flex.
http://www.sonomaproducts.com/images...shop/7dust.jpg
http://www.sonomaproducts.com/images...shop/91air.jpg
http://www.sonomaproducts.com/images...3back-wall.jpg

On 9/16/2013 2:14 PM, SonomaProducts.com wrote:


Has anyone had any luck with this stuff? The price on the clear
stuff is outrageous and the wire makes it harder to work with. The
black stuffcurves easily and neither collapses nor shrinks under vacuum.

Wow, very innovative. It seems that the ridges are quite a bit more
pronounced than the flexible plastic. If you run is very long I
think you will get quite a bit of friction loss. I think the
whistling proves my point of turbulence, etc. I use rigid thin wall
irrigation PVC andjust use the flex at the very end ...

Agree, the noise is friction losses--_a_bad_thing_ (tm)

I've been using thinwall DWV plastic (Sch 30 or even 20) and excepting
for the static electricity annoyance(*) works fine as well.

(*) But it's no worse than the flex plastic, either...

--

dpb wrote in :


Agree, the noise is friction losses--_a_bad_thing_ (tm)

I've been using thinwall DWV plastic (Sch 30 or even 20) and excepting
for the static electricity annoyance(*) works fine as well.

(*) But it's no worse than the flex plastic, either...


I wrapped some wire around my planer discharge chute because of the
static. One end is grounded to the body of the planer. It helps quite a
bit.

Bill Pentz's site had a recommendation of putting a piece of metal tape
down the pipe on both inside and outside then connecting them with a
through bolt. Sounds like it worked well.

http://www.billpentz.com/woodworking...atic_electrici
ty

Puckdropper

--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.

On 9/16/2013 4:44 PM, Puckdropper wrote:
dpb wrote in :


Agree, the noise is friction losses--_a_bad_thing_ (tm)

I've been using thinwall DWV plastic (Sch 30 or even 20) and excepting
for the static electricity annoyance(*) works fine as well.

(*) But it's no worse than the flex plastic, either...


I wrapped some wire around my planer discharge chute because of the
static. One end is grounded to the body of the planer. It helps quite a
bit.

Bill Pentz's site had a recommendation of putting a piece of metal tape
down the pipe on both inside and outside then connecting them with a
through bolt. Sounds like it worked well.

http://www.billpentz.com/woodworking...atic_electrici
ty

Puckdropper



My hose is long enough that it is always in contact with the concrete
floor. That contact seems to take care of static discharge as I can't
remember ever being shocked by the hose. A different climate might have
different results.

On 9/16/2013 8:44 AM, Joe wrote:
I noticed some black flexible ribbed hose used in a dust collection accessories ad at http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=11312&rrt=1 .

I tried some stuff that looks like it that is sold as drainage hose. It is similar to http://www.lowes.com/pd_259812-62059...nch&facetInfo= or http://www.lowes.com/pd_24136-124-04...nch&facetInfo= .

When used on a dust collector, the moving air across the ribs makes it sound like there's a steamboat whistle in the shop.

I've tried different lengths and flows to get away from the resonant frequency with no luck. It only changes pitch.

Has anyone had any luck with this stuff? The price on the clear stuff is outrageous and the wire makes it harder to work with. The black stuff curves easily and neither collapses nor shrinks under vacuum.


For long runs, I use the thick cardboard carpet tubes since they are
also 4" in diameter. I visited my local carpet store and they gave them
to me for free. They are 10 to 12ft in length and easy to cut. The
carpet store throws them away.

I connect the tubes with the dust collection elbows and other misc
connections required for each tool. The only flexible hose I use are for
my Router table and table saw because they are on wheels.

On 09/16/2013 03:38 PM, Leon wrote:
On 9/16/2013 4:44 PM, Puckdropper wrote:
dpb wrote in :


Agree, the noise is friction losses--_a_bad_thing_ (tm)

I've been using thinwall DWV plastic (Sch 30 or even 20) and excepting
for the static electricity annoyance(*) works fine as well.

(*) But it's no worse than the flex plastic, either...


I wrapped some wire around my planer discharge chute because of the
static. One end is grounded to the body of the planer. It helps quite a
bit.

Bill Pentz's site had a recommendation of putting a piece of metal tape
down the pipe on both inside and outside then connecting them with a
through bolt. Sounds like it worked well.

http://www.billpentz.com/woodworking...atic_electrici
ty

Puckdropper



My hose is long enough that it is always in contact with the concrete
floor. That contact seems to take care of static discharge as I can't
remember ever being shocked by the hose. A different climate might have
different results.

I don't get shocked, but the hose sometimes starts to look like a chia pet.


--
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure,the creed of ignorance, and the
gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery"
-Winston Churchill

My hose is long enough that it is always in contact with the concrete

floor. That contact seems to take care of static discharge as I can't

remember ever being shocked by the hose. A different climate might have

different results.

Stop bragging. My "hose" drags around on the floor also if I don't tie it too my leg. It's a bitch when I step on that sucker..

I've been using thinwall DWV plastic (Sch 30 or even 20) and excepting

for the static electricity annoyance(*) works fine as well.



(*) But it's no worse than the flex plastic, either...

--
Read Puckers reply about Bill Pentz idea of aluminum tape. I have it run inside and outside every run and fitting with a complete circuit from one end to the other. You can see it in my pics. I make sure the connecting screws pass through it as well. I connect a copper wire to it at the end with an alligator clip that can be attached to the machine. I haven' had even a hint of a shock, even in the places where the terminus has lost the clip or wire and just having the tape throughout causes enough diffusion it just never builds any static.

On 9/16/2013 5:38 PM, Leon wrote:
On 9/16/2013 4:44 PM, Puckdropper wrote:
dpb wrote in :


Agree, the noise is friction losses--_a_bad_thing_ (tm)

I've been using thinwall DWV plastic (Sch 30 or even 20) and excepting
for the static electricity annoyance(*) works fine as well.

(*) But it's no worse than the flex plastic, either...


I wrapped some wire around my planer discharge chute because of the
static. One end is grounded to the body of the planer. It helps quite a
bit.

Bill Pentz's site had a recommendation of putting a piece of metal tape
down the pipe on both inside and outside then connecting them with a
through bolt. Sounds like it worked well.

....

I've still got stuff in temporary places awaiting time enough to finish
pouring a slab and getting power to where I want the planer permanently
so haven't done anything regarding that. I figured in the end I'd just
run a piece of #10 or so fencing wire thru it and ground that and see
what happens...

My hose is long enough that it is always in contact with the concrete
floor. That contact seems to take care of static discharge as I can't
remember ever being shocked by the hose. A different climate might have
different results.

Indeed. If the RH ever gets to 30-40% here during summer days we're
complaining about the "high humidity". Normal would be in the '10s to
low 20s and in July/Aug not unusual at all to be in single digits. TN
and VA, otoh, if it dropped below 70-80% the natives complained about
how "dry" it was and chapped lips, etc., ... It's all in what one's
used to.

--

On 9/16/2013 5:44 PM, Meanie wrote:
....

For long runs, I use the thick cardboard carpet tubes since they are
also 4" in diameter. I visited my local carpet store and they gave them
to me for free. They are 10 to 12ft in length and easy to cut. The
carpet store throws them away.
....

Now that one _is_ clever!!!

--

On 9/16/2013 6:38 PM, Leon wrote:
On 9/16/2013 4:44 PM, Puckdropper wrote:
dpb wrote in :


Agree, the noise is friction losses--_a_bad_thing_ (tm)

I've been using thinwall DWV plastic (Sch 30 or even 20) and excepting
for the static electricity annoyance(*) works fine as well.

(*) But it's no worse than the flex plastic, either...


I wrapped some wire around my planer discharge chute because of the
static. One end is grounded to the body of the planer. It helps quite a
bit.

Bill Pentz's site had a recommendation of putting a piece of metal tape
down the pipe on both inside and outside then connecting them with a
through bolt. Sounds like it worked well.

http://www.billpentz.com/woodworking...atic_electrici
ty

Puckdropper



My hose is long enough that it is always in contact with the concrete
floor.
Braggit.

That contact seems to take care of static discharge as I can't
remember ever being shocked by the hose. A different climate might have
different results.


--
Jeff

Dust is destined to be with metal. With plastic, a static charge is
developed and can cause explosions. Some run a bare copper wire down
the pipe and ground the wire to bleed off the charge.

Martin

On 9/16/2013 7:44 AM, Joe wrote:
I noticed some black flexible ribbed hose used in a dust collection accessories ad at http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=11312&rrt=1 .

I tried some stuff that looks like it that is sold as drainage hose. It is similar to http://www.lowes.com/pd_259812-62059...nch&facetInfo= or http://www.lowes.com/pd_24136-124-04...nch&facetInfo= .

When used on a dust collector, the moving air across the ribs makes it sound like there's a steamboat whistle in the shop.

I've tried different lengths and flows to get away from the resonant frequency with no luck. It only changes pitch.

Has anyone had any luck with this stuff? The price on the clear stuff is outrageous and the wire makes it harder to work with. The black stuff curves easily and neither collapses nor shrinks under vacuum.

Martin Eastburn wrote:

Dust is destined to be with metal. With plastic, a static charge is
developed and can cause explosions. Some run a bare copper wire down
the pipe and ground the wire to bleed off the charge.


Oh no... here we go again...

--

-Mike-

On 9/16/13 8:44 PM, Martin Eastburn wrote:
Dust is destined to be with metal. With plastic, a static charge is
developed and can cause explosions.

BULL****!

(here we go again!) :-)


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com

---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply

On 9/16/2013 8:44 PM, Martin Eastburn wrote:
Dust is destined to be with metal. With plastic, a static charge is
developed and can cause explosions. Some run a bare copper wire down
the pipe and ground the wire to bleed off the charge.

Martin


If that were true there would be you would hear about explosions all the
time.

On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 21:05:31 -0500, -MIKE-
wrote:

On 9/16/13 8:44 PM, Martin Eastburn wrote:
Dust is destined to be with metal. With plastic, a static charge is
developed and can cause explosions.

BULL****!

(here we go again!) :-)

It not BS, it could happen but it is not very likely, obtaining the
perfect mixture of very fine dust, oxiding agent and spark is all you
need but odds are not at all good that you acheive that bit of
perfection. Now it you mix in dry coffee creamer rather than sawdust
your chances of an explosion are much better. So do not vacum up a big
spill of coffee creamer with your dust collector if your hoses are not
grounded.

Mark

TIC

On 9/17/13 10:45 AM, Markem wrote:
On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 21:05:31 -0500, -MIKE-
wrote:

On 9/16/13 8:44 PM, Martin Eastburn wrote:
Dust is destined to be with metal. With plastic, a static charge
is developed and can cause explosions.

BULL****!

(here we go again!) :-)

It not BS, it could happen but it is not very likely, obtaining the
perfect mixture of very fine dust, oxiding agent and spark is all
you need but odds are not at all good that you acheive that bit of
perfection.

You just explained why it is in fact bull****. LOTS of things are
"possible." But warning against something that is highly improbably
(read: won't happen in a home woodworking environment) is what makes it
bull****.


Now it you mix in dry coffee creamer rather than sawdust your chances
of an explosion are much better. So do not vacum up a big spill of
coffee creamer with your dust collector if your hoses are not
grounded.


I'd argue that even that isn't going to happen.
You're watching too many magicians. :-)
Oh, and by the way... do we need to revisit the definition of
"explosion" every single freakin time this subject come up!? :-)


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com

---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply

On 9/17/2013 10:45 AM, Markem wrote:
On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 21:05:31 -0500, -MIKE-
wrote:

On 9/16/13 8:44 PM, Martin Eastburn wrote:
Dust is destined to be with metal. With plastic, a static charge is
developed and can cause explosions.

BULL****!

(here we go again!) :-)

It not BS, it could happen but it is not very likely, obtaining the
perfect mixture of very fine dust, oxiding agent and spark is all you
need but odds are not at all good that you acheive that bit of
perfection. Now it you mix in dry coffee creamer rather than sawdust
your chances of an explosion are much better. So do not vacum up a big
spill of coffee creamer with your dust collector if your hoses are not
grounded.

Mark

TIC




Ten thousand times more likely is that you spill some paint thinner and
drop a lit match on it.

The likelihood of an explosion from a DC is as likely as an explosion by
vacuuming the carpet in your home.

It is a moot point to fear an explosion from a dust collector sucking up
saw dust. There are hundreds of other things in the shop that are more
likely to cause harm.

On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 10:59:15 -0500, -MIKE-
wrote:

On 9/17/13 10:45 AM, Markem wrote:
On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 21:05:31 -0500, -MIKE-
wrote:

On 9/16/13 8:44 PM, Martin Eastburn wrote:
Dust is destined to be with metal. With plastic, a static charge
is developed and can cause explosions.

BULL****!

(here we go again!) :-)

It not BS, it could happen but it is not very likely, obtaining the
perfect mixture of very fine dust, oxiding agent and spark is all
you need but odds are not at all good that you acheive that bit of
perfection.

You just explained why it is in fact bull****. LOTS of things are
"possible." But warning against something that is highly improbably
(read: won't happen in a home woodworking environment) is what makes it
bull****.


Now it you mix in dry coffee creamer rather than sawdust your chances
of an explosion are much better. So do not vacum up a big spill of
coffee creamer with your dust collector if your hoses are not
grounded.


I'd argue that even that isn't going to happen.
You're watching too many magicians. :-)
Oh, and by the way... do we need to revisit the definition of
"explosion" every single freakin time this subject come up!? :-)

I guess you missed the TIC under my name (Tongue In Cheek)

Nah I watch Myth Buster create a dust "explosion" using coffee
creamer.

As far as explosion it is a rapid oxiding of a flammable, contain it
you have problems.

Finally an explosion in a home dust collection is as likely as the
moon being made of cheese.

I ground my hoses because the stuff does not stick as much to the
hoses.

On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 12:58:55 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet
wrote:

On 9/17/2013 10:45 AM, Markem wrote:
On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 21:05:31 -0500, -MIKE-
wrote:

On 9/16/13 8:44 PM, Martin Eastburn wrote:
Dust is destined to be with metal. With plastic, a static charge is
developed and can cause explosions.

BULL****!

(here we go again!) :-)

It not BS, it could happen but it is not very likely, obtaining the
perfect mixture of very fine dust, oxiding agent and spark is all you
need but odds are not at all good that you acheive that bit of
perfection. Now it you mix in dry coffee creamer rather than sawdust
your chances of an explosion are much better. So do not vacum up a big
spill of coffee creamer with your dust collector if your hoses are not
grounded.

Mark


Note this abbreviation
TIC
That is Tongue In Cheek




Ten thousand times more likely is that you spill some paint thinner and
drop a lit match on it.

The likelihood of an explosion from a DC is as likely as an explosion by
vacuuming the carpet in your home.

It is a moot point to fear an explosion from a dust collector sucking up
saw dust. There are hundreds of other things in the shop that are more
likely to cause harm.

"Leon" lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote

It is a moot point to fear an explosion from a dust collector sucking up
saw dust. There are hundreds of other things in the shop that are more
likely to cause harm.

Don't say that Leon! Now I am scared to go out to my shop! ;-)

Puckdropper wrote:
wrote in :


Agree, the noise is friction losses--_a_bad_thing_ (tm)

I've been using thinwall DWV plastic (Sch 30 or even 20) and excepting
for the static electricity annoyance(*) works fine as well.

(*) But it's no worse than the flex plastic, either...


I wrapped some wire around my planer discharge chute because of the
static. One end is grounded to the body of the planer. It helps quite a
bit.

Bill Pentz's site had a recommendation of putting a piece of metal tape
down the pipe on both inside and outside then connecting them with a
through bolt. Sounds like it worked well.

http://www.billpentz.com/woodworking...atic_electrici
ty

Puckdropper

When I set up my collection system 14 years ago, I used ThinWall 6
inch PVC drain pipe with 6 inch flex to my TS and BS, 3 inch flex to
the other stuff. I ran a copper wire inside connected to the Dust
collector and each machine. In a couple of years I started getting
clogs where stringy stuff wrapped around the wire and hung on,
gradually growing. Fortunately I used only slip fitting at some of
the joints so it could be taken apart.

I removed all the wire and have had no problems--never got a shock or
spark, even with the 3" flex which I use for vacuuming the floor and
around the lathe. I have gotten a shock in my brother's shop while
using his shopvac.

--
 GW Ross 

 If voting changed anything, they'd 
 make it illegal. 

On 9/17/2013 1:56 PM, Lee Michaels wrote:


"Leon" lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote

It is a moot point to fear an explosion from a dust collector sucking
up saw dust. There are hundreds of other things in the shop that are
more likely to cause harm.

Don't say that Leon! Now I am scared to go out to my shop! ;-)



LOL

That is why I finally bought a SawStop!

On 9/17/2013 1:18 PM, Markem wrote:


Note this abbreviation
TIC
That is Tongue In Cheek




Ten thousand times more likely is that you spill some paint thinner and
drop a lit match on it.

The likelihood of an explosion from a DC is as likely as an explosion by
vacuuming the carpet in your home.

It is a moot point to fear an explosion from a dust collector sucking up
saw dust. There are hundreds of other things in the shop that are more
likely to cause harm.


I thought maybe you had a TIC. ;~)

On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 15:55:14 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet
LOL
That is why I finally bought a SawStop!

So Leon, how many times have you been tempted to test it out with a
hot dog?

Must be hell going out to use your SawStop and thinking every time,
"Hmmm, I'd really like to test it out at least once!"

On 9/16/2013 10:03 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
Martin Eastburn wrote:

Dust is destined to be with metal. With plastic, a static charge is
developed and can cause explosions. Some run a bare copper wire down
the pipe and ground the wire to bleed off the charge.


Oh no... here we go again...


+1
:-)

--
Jeff

On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 18:05:27 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 15:55:14 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet
LOL
That is why I finally bought a SawStop!

So Leon, how many times have you been tempted to test it out with a
hot dog?

Must be hell going out to use your SawStop and thinking every time,
"Hmmm, I'd really like to test it out at least once!"

All he has to think of the cost of the replacement cartridge and
blade. To chase that thought away.

Mark

On 9/16/2013 7:57 PM, dpb wrote:
On 9/16/2013 5:44 PM, Meanie wrote:
...

For long runs, I use the thick cardboard carpet tubes since they are
also 4" in diameter. I visited my local carpet store and they gave them
to me for free. They are 10 to 12ft in length and easy to cut. The
carpet store throws them away.
...

Now that one _is_ clever!!!

--

Thank you.

On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 17:35:49 -0500, Markem
Must be hell going out to use your SawStop and thinking every time,
"Hmmm, I'd really like to test it out at least once!"

All he has to think of the cost of the replacement cartridge and
blade. To chase that thought away.

Nah! Leon's got enough money if he can afford to buy a professional
SawStop. Come on Leon, tell me you haven't thought about it several
dozen times?

It's like buying a new sports car with the supercharged engine in it.
You know you're going to test it out somewhere on some secluded
highway. And, the cost there is the sweat of thinking that you might
get caught speeding.

LEON! LEON! WE WANNA SEE YOUR HOTDOG TEST!!!

On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 17:35:49 -0500, Markem
wrote:

On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 18:05:27 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 15:55:14 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet
LOL
That is why I finally bought a SawStop!

So Leon, how many times have you been tempted to test it out with a
hot dog?

Must be hell going out to use your SawStop and thinking every time,
"Hmmm, I'd really like to test it out at least once!"

All he has to think of the cost of the replacement cartridge and
blade. To chase that thought away.

I'm sure I could come up with a blade to donate to the experiment! ;-)

On 9/17/13 1:16 PM, Markem wrote:
On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 10:59:15 -0500, -MIKE-
wrote:

On 9/17/13 10:45 AM, Markem wrote:
On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 21:05:31 -0500, -MIKE-
wrote:

On 9/16/13 8:44 PM, Martin Eastburn wrote:
Dust is destined to be with metal. With plastic, a static charge
is developed and can cause explosions.

BULL****!

(here we go again!) :-)

It not BS, it could happen but it is not very likely, obtaining the
perfect mixture of very fine dust, oxiding agent and spark is all
you need but odds are not at all good that you acheive that bit of
perfection.

You just explained why it is in fact bull****. LOTS of things are
"possible." But warning against something that is highly improbably
(read: won't happen in a home woodworking environment) is what makes it
bull****.


Now it you mix in dry coffee creamer rather than sawdust your chances
of an explosion are much better. So do not vacum up a big spill of
coffee creamer with your dust collector if your hoses are not
grounded.


I'd argue that even that isn't going to happen.
You're watching too many magicians. :-)
Oh, and by the way... do we need to revisit the definition of
"explosion" every single freakin time this subject come up!? :-)

I guess you missed the TIC under my name (Tongue In Cheek)


Yes I did. I have never seen that in my 20 years of usenet.
Winky faces, yes. -- ;-)


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com

---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply

As the dust gets bashed about it comes apart in small bits. Cellulose.
Nice bang.

Insurance man will get you.

Martin


On 9/17/2013 10:45 AM, Markem wrote:
On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 21:05:31 -0500, -MIKE-
wrote:

On 9/16/13 8:44 PM, Martin Eastburn wrote:
Dust is destined to be with metal. With plastic, a static charge is
developed and can cause explosions.

BULL****!

(here we go again!) :-)

It not BS, it could happen but it is not very likely, obtaining the
perfect mixture of very fine dust, oxiding agent and spark is all you
need but odds are not at all good that you acheive that bit of
perfection. Now it you mix in dry coffee creamer rather than sawdust
your chances of an explosion are much better. So do not vacum up a big
spill of coffee creamer with your dust collector if your hoses are not
grounded.

Mark

TIC

wrote:
On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 15:55:14 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet
LOL
That is why I finally bought a SawStop!

So Leon, how many times have you been tempted to test it out with a
hot dog?

Must be hell going out to use your SawStop and thinking every time,
"Hmmm, I'd really like to test it out at least once!"

LOL. Actually the spinning blade is still pretty good at earning my
respect, so I don't have any less fear. Send me $175.00 and ill cut a hot
dog and send you pictures. :-)

Aside from that this saw was a much bigger step up in quality than I
expected so I do enjoy that benefit.

On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 23:44:44 -0500, Leon wrote:
LOL. Actually the spinning blade is still pretty good at earning my
respect, so I don't have any less fear. Send me $175.00 and ill cut a hot
dog and send you pictures. :-)

I really am tempted. I'll put in $25.00. Anyone else interested?

On 9/18/2013 12:44 AM, Leon wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 15:55:14 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet
LOL
That is why I finally bought a SawStop!

So Leon, how many times have you been tempted to test it out with a
hot dog?

Must be hell going out to use your SawStop and thinking every time,
"Hmmm, I'd really like to test it out at least once!"

LOL. Actually the spinning blade is still pretty good at earning my
respect, so I don't have any less fear. Send me $175.00 and ill cut a hot
dog and send you pictures. :-)

Aside from that this saw was a much bigger step up in quality than I
expected so I do enjoy that benefit.

Nice. I havwe one more year. Wife put the clamp down on this years
purchase. Once my son is done with school I have a green light, until
something else comes up.

--
Jeff

Martin Eastburn wrote:

As the dust gets bashed about it comes apart in small bits. Cellulose.
Nice bang.

Insurance man will get you.


Unfortunately, neither assertion above is true. Witness the absence of any
reports of exploding dust collection systems, and further, witness the
absence of reports of insurance companies denying claims related to dust
explosions in home workshops. Both are well worn misconceptions that have
experienced enough dialog here over the years, to qualify for inclusion in a
FAQ - if we really had one...

--

-Mike-

"SonomaProducts.com" wrote:
My hose is long enough that it is always in contact with the concrete

floor. That contact seems to take care of static discharge as I can't

remember ever being shocked by the hose. A different climate might have

different results.

Stop bragging. My "hose" drags around on the floor also if I don't tie it
too my leg. It's a bitch when I step on that sucker..

My floor is cold too! :-)