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Home-made air cleaner remake
Years ago I made an air cleaner from scrap wood, a furnace blower,
variable speed switch, and some 18x24" furnace-type filters. The plans came from the web, and I apologize for not remembering the author. The electric motor died recently - aw, shucks. I tried finding a replacement blower motor, but nothing seemed available locally, and Ebay sellers wanted too much for a blower (PLUS the SHIPPING!!! It would have been $125 at least). Googling around I found what looked like an affordable blower, generally to be used as a carpet drier fan. It is supposed to be available at Home Depot or Lowes. HD accepted my on-line order for pickup. I thought I was set, but the order was cancelled an hour later, no reason given. I then ordered from Amazon a "Lasko Pro Performance Blower Fan #4900" for $60, more than the HD price, but available for speedy delivery. My home-made box has open sides with rabbeted slide-in filter holders. The whole thing was made for the furnace blower but is now just slightly too narrow. The filters barely fit on one side, and not quite on the other. The total dimensions of my box are 25x15x19" L/W/H. Obviously (see photos), the box could have been shorter and lower, but this is what I have, and using my existing supply of furnace filters is a plus. The extra rectangular opening above the blower outlet was for the electric box with the variable speed switch, now not necessary, because the fan has off, and 3 speed settings. Plus this thing has extra outlets ... Obviously the disadvantage of the current setup is that the switch and outlets are covered up by the filters on that side. Have to find a solution for that. I hope this link does go to the 5 photos ... http://www.flickr.com/photos/1008977...57631733124534 -- Best regards Han email address is invalid |
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On Tuesday, October 9, 2012 4:04:07 PM UTC-5, Han wrote:
Years ago I made an air cleaner from scrap wood, a furnace blower, variable speed switch, and some 18x24" furnace-type filters. The plans came from the web, and I apologize for not remembering the author. The electric motor died recently - aw, shucks. I tried finding a replacement blower motor, but nothing seemed available locally, and Ebay sellers wanted too much for a blower (PLUS the SHIPPING!!! It would have been $125 at least). Googling around I found what looked like an affordable blower, generally to be used as a carpet drier fan. It is supposed to be available at Home Depot or Lowes. HD accepted my on-line order for pickup. I thought I was set, but the order was cancelled an hour later, no reason given. I then ordered from Amazon a "Lasko Pro Performance Blower Fan #4900" for $60, more than the HD price, but available for speedy delivery. My home-made box has open sides with rabbeted slide-in filter holders. The whole thing was made for the furnace blower but is now just slightly too narrow. The filters barely fit on one side, and not quite on the other. The total dimensions of my box are 25x15x19" L/W/H. Obviously (see photos), the box could have been shorter and lower, but this is what I have, and using my existing supply of furnace filters is a plus. The extra rectangular opening above the blower outlet was for the electric box with the variable speed switch, now not necessary, because the fan has off, and 3 speed settings. Plus this thing has extra outlets ... Obviously the disadvantage of the current setup is that the switch and outlets are covered up by the filters on that side. Have to find a solution for that. I hope this link does go to the 5 photos ... http://www.flickr.com/photos/1008977...57631733124534 -- Best regards Han email address is invalid My brother in law made an air cleaner very similar to yours about 35 - 40 years ago. This was years before most of us home-shop folks even dreamed of having the kind of equipment available from Jet and others. It did a good job of keeping his basement wood shop cleaner than most. He passed this spring and his son has now installed it in his garage shop. RonB |
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On Tuesday, October 9, 2012 4:04:07 PM UTC-5, Han wrote:
On a side note, I noticed your fire extinguisher in the pics.... For those of you who don't have fire extinguishers and would like one or some, you might check with your local extinguisher serviceman/service center. Old extinguishers, I've discovered, that don't meet code for many applications, are often discarded. For utility or shop use, there is often no code or less strict codes and these extinguishers are suitable and available for little $$$ or free, depends on the service center and/or the extinguisher. The only cost would be to have it refilled/re-activated. In some places, I suppose, having a fire extinguisher might reduce an insurance premium, too. The local service center, here, is giving me several extinguishers, for the shop, for free, but after chatting, I offered to make the owner a bistro table, for his patio, in exchange. It doesn't hurt to ask. Sonny |
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On 10/9/2012 6:16 PM, Han wrote:
wrote in : On Tuesday, October 9, 2012 4:04:07 PM UTC-5, Han wrote: On a side note, I noticed your fire extinguisher in the pics.... For those of you who don't have fire extinguishers and would like one or some, you might check with your local extinguisher serviceman/service center. Old extinguishers, I've discovered, that don't meet code for many applications, are often discarded. For utility or shop use, there is often no code or less strict codes and these extinguishers are suitable and available for little $$$ or free, depends on the service center and/or the extinguisher. The only cost would be to have it refilled/re-activated. In some places, I suppose, having a fire extinguisher might reduce an insurance premium, too. The local service center, here, is giving me several extinguishers, for the shop, for free, but after chatting, I offered to make the owner a bistro table, for his patio, in exchange. It doesn't hurt to ask. Sonny Fire extinguisher is near the furnace and hot water heater, on the other side of the basement as the stairs ... Han! Hey Han! What in the world do you have a hot water heater for????? On a second note, if the furnace or "water heater" were to need a fire extinguisher I think I would want the extinguisher to not be near the source of the fire. |
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Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote in
: On 10/9/2012 6:16 PM, Han wrote: wrote in : On Tuesday, October 9, 2012 4:04:07 PM UTC-5, Han wrote: On a side note, I noticed your fire extinguisher in the pics.... For those of you who don't have fire extinguishers and would like one or some, you might check with your local extinguisher serviceman/service center. Old extinguishers, I've discovered, that don't meet code for many applications, are often discarded. For utility or shop use, there is often no code or less strict codes and these extinguishers are suitable and available for little $$$ or free, depends on the service center and/or the extinguisher. The only cost would be to have it refilled/re-activated. In some places, I suppose, having a fire extinguisher might reduce an insurance premium, too. The local service center, here, is giving me several extinguishers, for the shop, for free, but after chatting, I offered to make the owner a bistro table, for his patio, in exchange. It doesn't hurt to ask. Sonny Fire extinguisher is near the furnace and hot water heater, on the other side of the basement as the stairs ... Han! Hey Han! What in the world do you have a hot water heater for????? Made me think ... LOL! On a second note, if the furnace or "water heater" were to need a fire extinguisher I think I would want the extinguisher to not be near the source of the fire. The washer and dryer are beyond the gas-fired appliances in the basement, furthest from the stairs. If there ever is a fire in the basement, I'd want the extinguishers near if I have to get past the fire, on my way to the stairs. Hope to never have to use it ... Probably should get a replacement anyway. -- Best regards Han email address is invalid |
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... The whole thing was made for the furnace blower but is now just slightly too narrow. *The filters barely fit on one side, and not quite on the other. *... You could make an extension to fit in between. A couple suggestions to increase efficiency: 1) Place a plastic electrostatic filter behind the furnace filter - 2) Spray the furnace filter with Endust .... |
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: ... The whole thing was made for the furnace blower but is now just sligh tly too narrow. *The filters barely fit on one side, and not quite on the o ther. *... You could make an extension to fit in between. A couple suggestions to increase efficiency: 1) Place a plastic electrostatic filter behind the furnace filter - 2) Spray the furnace filter with Endust .... Thanks for the suggestions! In the past, the filters worked well, and got caked with dust pretty fast. I anticipate the filters will need changing relatively often ... -- Best regards Han email address is invalid |
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"Han" wrote in message ... Years ago I made an air cleaner from scrap wood, a furnace blower, variable speed switch, and some 18x24" furnace-type filters. The plans came from the web, and I apologize for not remembering the author. The electric motor died recently - aw, shucks. I tried finding a replacement blower motor, but nothing seemed available locally, and Ebay sellers wanted too much for a blower (PLUS the SHIPPING!!! It would have been $125 at least). Googling around I found what looked like an affordable blower, generally to be used as a carpet drier fan. It is supposed to be available at Home Depot or Lowes. HD accepted my on-line order for pickup. I thought I was set, but the order was cancelled an hour later, no reason given. I then ordered from Amazon a "Lasko Pro Performance Blower Fan #4900" for $60, more than the HD price, but available for speedy delivery. My home-made box has open sides with rabbeted slide-in filter holders. The whole thing was made for the furnace blower but is now just slightly too narrow. The filters barely fit on one side, and not quite on the other. The total dimensions of my box are 25x15x19" L/W/H. Obviously (see photos), the box could have been shorter and lower, but this is what I have, and using my existing supply of furnace filters is a plus. The extra rectangular opening above the blower outlet was for the electric box with the variable speed switch, now not necessary, because the fan has off, and 3 speed settings. Plus this thing has extra outlets ... Obviously the disadvantage of the current setup is that the switch and outlets are covered up by the filters on that side. Have to find a solution for that. I hope this link does go to the 5 photos ... http://www.flickr.com/photos/1008977...57631733124534 -- Best regards Han email address is invalid Fasten a lever on the switch with small sheet metal screws then use a rod that sticks out the side of the unit. You could get fancy so the rod moves another rotary switch on the outside, too. -- Jim in NC |
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: Fasten a lever on the switch with small sheet metal screws then use a rod that sticks out the side of the unit. You could get fancy so the rod moves another rotary switch on the outside, too. There are 2 competing things - access to the switch (and perhaps the outlets next to it), and a more or less airtight hold on the filters covering that area. If I were an electrician I could figure out how to wire the variable speed switch I have from before to feed power to the fan. But then, perhaps that was what eventually killed the electric motor in the old setup. I had the fan go at the lowest speed most of the time, for long periods. -- Best regards Han email address is invalid |
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On 10/9/2012 7:22 PM, Han wrote:
Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote in : On 10/9/2012 6:16 PM, Han wrote: wrote in : On Tuesday, October 9, 2012 4:04:07 PM UTC-5, Han wrote: On a side note, I noticed your fire extinguisher in the pics.... For those of you who don't have fire extinguishers and would like one or some, you might check with your local extinguisher serviceman/service center. Old extinguishers, I've discovered, that don't meet code for many applications, are often discarded. For utility or shop use, there is often no code or less strict codes and these extinguishers are suitable and available for little $$$ or free, depends on the service center and/or the extinguisher. The only cost would be to have it refilled/re-activated. In some places, I suppose, having a fire extinguisher might reduce an insurance premium, too. The local service center, here, is giving me several extinguishers, for the shop, for free, but after chatting, I offered to make the owner a bistro table, for his patio, in exchange. It doesn't hurt to ask. Sonny Fire extinguisher is near the furnace and hot water heater, on the other side of the basement as the stairs ... Han! Hey Han! What in the world do you have a hot water heater for????? Made me think ... LOL! On a second note, if the furnace or "water heater" were to need a fire extinguisher I think I would want the extinguisher to not be near the source of the fire. The washer and dryer are beyond the gas-fired appliances in the basement, furthest from the stairs. If there ever is a fire in the basement, I'd want the extinguishers near if I have to get past the fire, on my way to the stairs. Hope to never have to use it ... Probably should get a replacement anyway. Actually probably a good idea for your exit strategy, I was thinking of fighting the fire from the stairs. ;~) |
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On Tuesday, October 9, 2012 4:56:31 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Tuesday, October 9, 2012 4:04:07 PM UTC-5, Han wrote: On a side note, I noticed your fire extinguisher in the pics.... For those of you who don't have fire extinguishers and would like one or some, you might check with your local extinguisher serviceman/service center. Old extinguishers, I've discovered, that don't meet code for many applications, are often discarded. For utility or shop use, there is often no code or less strict codes and these extinguishers are suitable and available for little $$$ or free, depends on the service center and/or the extinguisher. The only cost would be to have it refilled/re-activated. In some places, I suppose, having a fire extinguisher might reduce an insurance premium, too. The local service center, here, is giving me several extinguishers, for the shop, for free, but after chatting, I offered to make the owner a bistro table, for his patio, in exchange. It doesn't hurt to ask. Sonny Doesn't hurt to check local fire departments too. A few years ago our rural fire department received a grant to provide fire extinguishers and smoke detectors for local residents. A lot of us received one each for basically signing a voucher for their records. I have two in the shop. One near the entrance door to the house so it is close to the kitchen too. The second on the opposite side of the garage shop. RonB |
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On 10/9/2012 2:04 PM, Han wrote:
Years ago I made an air cleaner from scrap wood, a furnace blower, variable speed switch, and some 18x24" furnace-type filters. The plans came from the web, and I apologize for not remembering the author. The electric motor died recently - aw, shucks. I tried finding a replacement blower motor, but nothing seemed available locally, and Ebay sellers wanted too much for a blower (PLUS the SHIPPING!!! It would have been $125 at least). Electric motors are expensive.... What not buy the real thing for $125 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Jet-Air-Filt...em2a23be 70bb |
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Han wrote:
There are 2 competing things - access to the switch (and perhaps the outlets next to it), and a more or less airtight hold on the filters covering that area. If I were an electrician I could figure out how to wire the variable speed switch I have from before to feed power to the fan. But then, perhaps that was what eventually killed the electric motor in the old setup. I had the fan go at the lowest speed most of the time, for long periods. Nope. If you had burned out windings, then you could have suspected the switch. In your case, it was the bearings that gave way and that is just plain old mechanical wear - not related at all to your switch. Bearings only last so long in any device. -- -Mike- |
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RonB wrote:
I have two in the shop. One near the entrance door to the house so it is close to the kitchen too. The second on the opposite side of the garage shop. Near the kitchen???? Bad, bad - very bad place for a smoke detector. Don't you cook hamburgers like I do? Seared to perfection? -- -Mike- |
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"Mike Marlow" wrote in
: RonB wrote: I have two in the shop. One near the entrance door to the house so it is close to the kitchen too. The second on the opposite side of the garage shop. Near the kitchen???? Bad, bad - very bad place for a smoke detector. Don't you cook hamburgers like I do? Seared to perfection? When the smoke detector goes off, then you know it's done. *g* Puckdropper -- Make it to fit, don't make it fit. |
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Puckdropper wrote:
"Mike Marlow" wrote in : RonB wrote: I have two in the shop. One near the entrance door to the house so it is close to the kitchen too. The second on the opposite side of the garage shop. Near the kitchen???? Bad, bad - very bad place for a smoke detector. Don't you cook hamburgers like I do? Seared to perfection? When the smoke detector goes off, then you know it's done. *g* Correction - ALMOST done... -- -Mike- |
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On Tue, 09 Oct 2012 18:30:26 -0500, Leon wrote:
On 10/9/2012 6:16 PM, Han wrote: wrote in : On Tuesday, October 9, 2012 4:04:07 PM UTC-5, Han wrote: On a side note, I noticed your fire extinguisher in the pics.... For those of you who don't have fire extinguishers and would like one or some, you might check with your local extinguisher serviceman/service center. Old extinguishers, I've discovered, that don't meet code for many applications, are often discarded. For utility or shop use, there is often no code or less strict codes and these extinguishers are suitable and available for little $$$ or free, depends on the service center and/or the extinguisher. The only cost would be to have it refilled/re-activated. In some places, I suppose, having a fire extinguisher might reduce an insurance premium, too. The local service center, here, is giving me several extinguishers, for the shop, for free, but after chatting, I offered to make the owner a bistro table, for his patio, in exchange. It doesn't hurt to ask. Sonny Fire extinguisher is near the furnace and hot water heater, on the other side of the basement as the stairs ... Han! Hey Han! What in the world do you have a hot water heater for????? He bought it online at Lowes, they think they are hot water heaters too. basilisk |
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On Oct 10, 10:19*am, "Mike Marlow"
wrote: RonB wrote: I have two in the shop. *One near the entrance door to the house so it is close to the kitchen too. *The second on the opposite side of the garage shop. Near the kitchen???? *Bad, bad - very bad place for a smoke detector. *Don't you cook hamburgers like I do? *Seared to perfection? -- -Mike- Fire Extinguishers. One is right outside of the garage entrance with the door closed. |
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"Mike Marlow" wrote in news:7d74d$50759186
: Leon wrote: Actually probably a good idea for your exit strategy, I was thinking of fighting the fire from the stairs. ;~) Isn't that the wife's job? She comes with the band-aids ... -- Best regards Han email address is invalid |
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"Mike Marlow" wrote in
: Han wrote: There are 2 competing things - access to the switch (and perhaps the outlets next to it), and a more or less airtight hold on the filters covering that area. If I were an electrician I could figure out how to wire the variable speed switch I have from before to feed power to the fan. But then, perhaps that was what eventually killed the electric motor in the old setup. I had the fan go at the lowest speed most of the time, for long periods. Nope. If you had burned out windings, then you could have suspected the switch. In your case, it was the bearings that gave way and that is just plain old mechanical wear - not related at all to your switch. Bearings only last so long in any device. -- Best regards Han email address is invalid |
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In article , Pat Barber
wrote: Electric motors are expensive... Furnace blowers can be had cheap or free, and I regularly see 1750 RPM motors in working condition at yard sales for $5-$10. djb -- I used to like fishing because I thought it had some larger significance. Now I like fishing because itıs the one thing I can think of that probably doesnıt. * John Gierach |
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Dave Balderstone wrote in
news:111020120513128263%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderst one.ca: In article , Pat Barber wrote: Electric motors are expensive... Furnace blowers can be had cheap or free, and I regularly see 1750 RPM motors in working condition at yard sales for $5-$10. djb I'll be keeping my eyes out for them, but they don't get up and stand in your way around here ... Anyone seeing one available in Bergen county, NJ, email me at opahan on yahoo dot com, please ... -- Best regards Han email address is invalid |
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On 10/11/2012 4:13 AM, Dave Balderstone wrote:
In article , Pat Barber wrote: Electric motors are expensive... Furnace blowers can be had cheap or free, and I regularly see 1750 RPM motors in working condition at yard sales for $5-$10. djb Those are great but in the south you will be hard pressed to find a furnace blower. Maybe a motor from a heat pump blower assemble. Home made air cleaners just don't make much sense to me when you can get the correct tool. |
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Somebody wrote: Electric motors are expensive... Furnace blowers can be had cheap or free, and I regularly see 1750 RPM motors in working condition at yard sales for $5-$10. -------------------------------------------------------------- What you are looking for is an "Air Over" motor used to drive fan loads and get their cooling air from the fan being driven. When you can get the job done with a 20" box fan for less than $20, why reinvent the wheel. Lew |
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"Lew Hodgett" wrote in news:5076e984$0$13323
: Somebody wrote: Electric motors are expensive... Furnace blowers can be had cheap or free, and I regularly see 1750 RPM motors in working condition at yard sales for $5-$10. -------------------------------------------------------------- What you are looking for is an "Air Over" motor used to drive fan loads and get their cooling air from the fan being driven. When you can get the job done with a 20" box fan for less than $20, why reinvent the wheel. Lew I have a JET model. There is an outer filter that catches most of the big stuff, but then there's an inner filter that catches quite a bit of the finer stuff. Just dropping a filter on a box fan isn't likely to catch that finer stuff. It's also quieter on high than the box fan (but not by much), and has a timer to shut off after 2, 4, or 8 hours of running. I usually turn it on and set the timer for 8 hours. An annoying infrared remote has been included so the device doesn't have to be set where you can get to it. (It's annoying because it doesn't turn on to reasonable defaults so it takes at least 4 button pushes to set it properly--every time.) Puckdropper -- Make it to fit, don't make it fit. |
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On 11 Oct 2012 12:55:17 GMT, Han wrote:
Dave Balderstone wrote in news:111020120513128263%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalders tone.ca: In article , Pat Barber wrote: Electric motors are expensive... Furnace blowers can be had cheap or free, and I regularly see 1750 RPM motors in working condition at yard sales for $5-$10. djb I'll be keeping my eyes out for them, but they don't get up and stand in your way around here ... Anyone seeing one available in Bergen county, NJ, email me at opahan on yahoo dot com, please ... Write down the addresses of all the HVAC guys in your area and start visiting them while driving the truck/van of choice. Take a case of sodas or beer and swap tip them with it when you find the beast. They remove lots of usable furnaces every year due to new property owners, adding A/C, broken A/C warranting a whole new system, etc. My whole extra furnace unit was free for the asking. Some day, it will be a dust removal fan for the shop. sigh Also, check your local FreeCyclers for fans. Put up a request. It's free. Ditto Craigslist. And recycling is good for the planet. -- Energy and persistence alter all things. --Benjamin Franklin |
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