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Anyone using a full face faceshield like this for any non-lathe
woodworking (to satisfy Lobby, I'm looking for something that will fit in my dishwasher... ; ) ? Seems like I saw a few people wearing them at The Woodworking Shows. I guess there's almost no limit to what you can protect against kickback, etc. One reviewer who had a lathe throw a log into this mouth, knocking out a few teeth, swears now by the unit below. Uvex S8510 Bionic Black Matte Faceshield with Clear Anti-fog Hardcoat Visor http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...pf_rd_i=507846 As long as I'm throwing perfectly good money at dishwashers, buying something like this might help ease my pain. : ) Bill |
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"Bill" wrote in message ... Anyone using a full face faceshield like this for any non-lathe woodworking (to satisfy Lobby, I'm looking for something that will fit in my dishwasher... ; ) ? Seems like I saw a few people wearing them at The Woodworking Shows. I guess there's almost no limit to what you can protect against kickback, etc. One reviewer who had a lathe throw a log into this mouth, knocking out a few teeth, swears now by the unit below. Uvex S8510 Bionic Black Matte Faceshield with Clear Anti-fog Hardcoat Visor http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...pf_rd_i=507846 As long as I'm throwing perfectly good money at dishwashers, buying something like this might help ease my pain. : ) Bill ****ed if I know why you would want to use one of these in a dishwasher All the dishwashers I have seen, have been too small for anyone to fit through the little door, whether they are wearing a face shield or not. Are you going to climb in to check whether the washer is doing a proper job? Why don't you get your wife to do the job she was designed to do?, do the dishes and then you can stand behind her watching her every move And all this without having to buy a dishwasher and climb inside to check on its progress |
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George W Frost wrote:
wrote in message ... Anyone using a full face faceshield like this for any non-lathe woodworking (to satisfy Lobby, I'm looking for something that will fit in my dishwasher... ; ) ? Seems like I saw a few people wearing them at The Woodworking Shows. I guess there's almost no limit to what you can protect against kickback, etc. One reviewer who had a lathe throw a log into this mouth, knocking out a few teeth, swears now by the unit below. Uvex S8510 Bionic Black Matte Faceshield with Clear Anti-fog Hardcoat Visor http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...pf_rd_i=507846 As long as I'm throwing perfectly good money at dishwashers, buying something like this might help ease my pain. : ) Bill ****ed if I know why you would want to use one of these in a dishwasher All the dishwashers I have seen, have been too small for anyone to fit through the little door, whether they are wearing a face shield or not. Well, I figured it would keep the soap out of my eyes when I am cleaning up in the morning. |
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Anyone using a full face faceshield like this for any non-lathe woodworking (to satisfy Lobby, I'm looking for something that will fit in my dishwasher... ; ) ? Seems like I saw a few people wearing them at The Woodworking Shows. Absolutely. I haven't worn goggles in the shop for about fifteen years now; instead, I use one of these: http://www.lowes.com/pd_74556-98-900...ductId=3082689 Replacement windows are available at Do-It-Best hardware stores for about half the cost of the complete unit. In Indianapolis, Bill, that's Sullivan Hardware. I guess there's almost no limit to what you can protect against kickback, etc. One reviewer who had a lathe throw a log into this mouth, knocking out a few teeth, swears now by the unit below. If you do a Google Groups search on this newsgroup for "faceshield" you'll find numerous posts where I've said "there are other things on your face worth protecting besides your eyes." And they come in handy even when you wouldn't necessarily expect it -- who'd a thunk that a *bandsaw* would eject a small cutoff backward at high speed? A few years ago, I was cutting a notch out of the corner of a piece of red oak when suddenly PING! the waste piece (about a 1cm cube) bounced off the faceshield right in front of my nose. |
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"Bill" wrote in message
... Anyone using a full face faceshield like this for any non-lathe woodworking (to satisfy Lobby, I'm looking for something that will fit in my dishwasher... ; ) ? Seems like I saw a few people wearing them at The Woodworking Shows. I guess there's almost no limit to what you can protect against kickback, etc. One reviewer who had a lathe throw a log into this mouth, knocking out a few teeth, swears now by the unit below. Uvex S8510 Bionic Black Matte Faceshield with Clear Anti-fog Hardcoat Visor http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...pf_rd_i=507846 As long as I'm throwing perfectly good money at dishwashers, buying something like this might help ease my pain. : ) Bill I wear one, but not as spendy as that. Mine is like this: http://www.amazon.com/AO-Safety-9002...7063657&sr=1-3 and it has saved my noggin a couple times. I have a couple of them so that I can have a visitor wear one. All my hits have been off the lathe, but I wear it for any power tool use. -- "He's not the Messiah. He's a very naughty boy! " Brian's Mum |
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On 2/6/2011 7:18 PM, Bill wrote:
Anyone using a full face faceshield like this for any non-lathe woodworking (to satisfy Lobby, I'm looking for something that will fit in my dishwasher... ; ) ? Seems like I saw a few people wearing them at The Woodworking Shows. I do have one handy in the shop in case the task at hand waves a huge red flag, which is not often enough. I should use it more ... although safety glasses are used often, the face shield, a light one, is simply too awkward and hot in this climate for it to become the habit it should be. -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 4/15/2010 KarlC@ (the obvious) |
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"George W Frost" wrote in message ond.com... "Bill" wrote in message ... Anyone using a full face faceshield like this for any non-lathe woodworking (to satisfy Lobby, I'm looking for something that will fit in my dishwasher... ; ) ? Seems like I saw a few people wearing them at The Woodworking Shows. I guess there's almost no limit to what you can protect against kickback, etc. One reviewer who had a lathe throw a log into this mouth, knocking out a few teeth, swears now by the unit below. Uvex S8510 Bionic Black Matte Faceshield with Clear Anti-fog Hardcoat Visor http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...pf_rd_i=507846 As long as I'm throwing perfectly good money at dishwashers, buying something like this might help ease my pain. : ) Bill ****ed if I know why you would want to use one of these in a dishwasher All the dishwashers I have seen, have been too small for anyone to fit through the little door, whether they are wearing a face shield or not. Are you going to climb in to check whether the washer is doing a proper job? Why don't you get your wife to do the job she was designed to do?, do the dishes and then you can stand behind her watching her every move And all this without having to buy a dishwasher and climb inside to check on its progress Are you always an ass or just in this instance? |
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"Bill" wrote in message ... Anyone using a full face faceshield like this for any non-lathe woodworking (to satisfy Lobby, I'm looking for something that will fit in my dishwasher... ; ) ? Seems like I saw a few people wearing them at The Woodworking Shows. I guess there's almost no limit to what you can protect against kickback, etc. One reviewer who had a lathe throw a log into this mouth, knocking out a few teeth, swears now by the unit below. Uvex S8510 Bionic Black Matte Faceshield with Clear Anti-fog Hardcoat Visor http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...pf_rd_i=507846 As long as I'm throwing perfectly good money at dishwashers, buying something like this might help ease my pain. : ) Bill Ki9nda like Swingman indicated, depending on the climate it might be way too uncomfortable to wear all the time. I don't like any thing fogging up in fromt of me and or cupped around my face. BUT the one you are looking at certainly is not cost prohibitive and you will not be out much in the event you find it too restrictive or uncomfortable of full time use and or have available for those times that comfort is trumped by safety. I'd go for it. HOWEVER concerning cleaning in the dishwasher, that might not be a good idea. Most dishwasher detergents are abrasive and could cloud the shield. And the heat could melt it if not dishwasher safe. ;~) |
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"Leon" wrote in message ... "George W Frost" wrote in message ond.com... "Bill" wrote in message ... Anyone using a full face faceshield like this for any non-lathe woodworking (to satisfy Lobby, I'm looking for something that will fit in my dishwasher... ; ) ? Seems like I saw a few people wearing them at The Woodworking Shows. I guess there's almost no limit to what you can protect against kickback, etc. One reviewer who had a lathe throw a log into this mouth, knocking out a few teeth, swears now by the unit below. Uvex S8510 Bionic Black Matte Faceshield with Clear Anti-fog Hardcoat Visor http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...pf_rd_i=507846 As long as I'm throwing perfectly good money at dishwashers, buying something like this might help ease my pain. : ) Bill ****ed if I know why you would want to use one of these in a dishwasher All the dishwashers I have seen, have been too small for anyone to fit through the little door, whether they are wearing a face shield or not. Are you going to climb in to check whether the washer is doing a proper job? Why don't you get your wife to do the job she was designed to do?, do the dishes and then you can stand behind her watching her every move And all this without having to buy a dishwasher and climb inside to check on its progress Are you always an ass or just in this instance? This is a special one, just for you |
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"George W Frost" wrote in message ond.com... Are you always an ass or just in this instance? This is a special one, just for you It will be a shame if you ever have anything worth while to say as I will miss it. |
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On Sun, 06 Feb 2011 20:18:23 -0500, Bill wrote:
Anyone using a full face faceshield like this for any non-lathe woodworking (to satisfy Lobby, I'm looking for something that will fit in my dishwasher... ; ) ? Seems like I saw a few people wearing them at The Woodworking Shows. I guess there's almost no limit to what you can protect against kickback, etc. One reviewer who had a lathe throw a log into this mouth, knocking out a few teeth, swears now by the unit below. Uvex S8510 Bionic Black Matte Faceshield with Clear Anti-fog Hardcoat Visor http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...pf_rd_i=507846 As long as I'm throwing perfectly good money at dishwashers, buying something like this might help ease my pain. : ) You should at least go with a supplied air mask, Bill: http://tinyurl.com/49vmdl4 or the trendier http://tinyurl.com/4fdv3oe -- If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered...I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies... The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. --Thomas Jefferson |
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On Sun, 06 Feb 2011 20:18:23 -0500, Bill wrote:
Anyone using a full face faceshield like this for any non-lathe woodworking (to satisfy Lobby, I'm looking for something that will fit in my dishwasher... ; ) ? Seems like I saw a few people wearing them at The Woodworking Shows. I guess there's almost no limit to what you can protect against kickback, etc. One reviewer who had a lathe throw a log into this mouth, knocking out a few teeth, swears now by the unit below. Uvex S8510 Bionic Black Matte Faceshield with Clear Anti-fog Hardcoat Visor http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...pf_rd_i=507846 As long as I'm throwing perfectly good money at dishwashers, buying something like this might help ease my pain. : ) Bill Read the customer revies closely. I shopped around for faceshields like those. I read quite a few customer reviews and one thing came up over and over: for one of the models that enclosed the face (forget which one) the plastic stinks to the point that the users couldn't wear them. It might dissipate with time. -Zz |
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On 2/7/2011 9:31 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
You should at least go with a supplied air mask, Bill: http://tinyurl.com/49vmdl4 or the trendier http://tinyurl.com/4fdv3oe Let he who has not bumped the top of his head in the shop laugh first... For the time begin, I'll need to stick with more value-oriented products. I think even thinking about safety like this once in a while is good practice. And there may be one person reading this who will identify a way they can further protect something that is difficult to fix or replace. Bill -- If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered...I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies... The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. --Thomas Jefferson |
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On 2/07/11 10:21 AM, Bill wrote:
On 2/7/2011 9:31 AM, Larry Jaques wrote: You should at least go with a supplied air mask, Bill: http://tinyurl.com/49vmdl4 or the trendier http://tinyurl.com/4fdv3oe Let he who has not bumped the top of his head in the shop laugh first... For the time begin, I'll need to stick with more value-oriented products. I think even thinking about safety like this once in a while is good practice. And there may be one person reading this who will identify a way they can further protect something that is difficult to fix or replace. Throw caution to the wind, go with one of these: http://tinyurl.com/659yj9n -- Froz... The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance. |
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On Mon, 07 Feb 2011 10:38:06 -0500, FrozenNorth
wrote: On 2/07/11 10:21 AM, Bill wrote: On 2/7/2011 9:31 AM, Larry Jaques wrote: You should at least go with a supplied air mask, Bill: http://tinyurl.com/49vmdl4 or the trendier http://tinyurl.com/4fdv3oe Let he who has not bumped the top of his head in the shop laugh first... For the time begin, I'll need to stick with more value-oriented products. I think even thinking about safety like this once in a while is good practice. And there may be one person reading this who will identify a way they can further protect something that is difficult to fix or replace. Throw caution to the wind, go with one of these: http://tinyurl.com/659yj9n Like, Heavy, man, heavy. Peace! -- If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered...I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies... The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. --Thomas Jefferson |
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"Leon" wrote in message ... Why don't you get your wife to do the job she was designed to do?, do the dishes and then you can stand behind her watching her every move And all this without having to buy a dishwasher and climb inside to check on its progress Are you always an ass or just in this instance? Bet you already know the answer to that. |
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On 2/7/2011 9:31 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
Uvex S8510 Bionic Black Matte Faceshield with Clear Anti-fog Hardcoat Visor You should at least go with a supplied air mask, Bill: http://tinyurl.com/49vmdl4 or the trendier http://tinyurl.com/4fdv3oe I wouldn't consider one of those unless it had a built in CO2 detector. -- Jack You Can't Fix Stupid, but You Can Vote it Out! http://jbstein.com |
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On Wed, 09 Feb 2011 09:51:29 -0500, Jack Stein
wrote: On 2/7/2011 9:31 AM, Larry Jaques wrote: Uvex S8510 Bionic Black Matte Faceshield with Clear Anti-fog Hardcoat Visor You should at least go with a supplied air mask, Bill: http://tinyurl.com/49vmdl4 or the trendier http://tinyurl.com/4fdv3oe I wouldn't consider one of those unless it had a built in CO2 detector. Huh? You're kidding, right? Both work on ambient room air that you'd be breathing anyway. -- Education is when you read the fine print. Experience is what you get if you don't. -- Pete Seeger |
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Bill wrote in :
Anyone using a full face faceshield like this for any non-lathe woodworking (to satisfy Lobby, I'm looking for something that will fit in my dishwasher... ; ) ? Seems like I saw a few people wearing them at The Woodworking Shows. I guess there's almost no limit to what you can protect against kickback, etc. One reviewer who had a lathe throw a log into this mouth, knocking out a few teeth, swears now by the unit below. Uvex S8510 Bionic Black Matte Faceshield with Clear Anti-fog Hardcoat Visor http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...w_p60_d0_i4?pf _rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-3&pf_rd_r=0AJR1600W9PVP591FYH0&pf_rd _t=101&pf_rd_p=470938811&pf_rd_i=507846 As long as I'm throwing perfectly good money at dishwashers, buying something like this might help ease my pain. : ) Two comments: 1) Get something with easily replaceable shields, and get several spares. That way when the change the design in a few years you don't find out the new shields won't fit. DAMHIKT 2) I used to buy Uvex safety glasses with the anti-fog coating. The coating works great for a while, and then it gets cloudy. Eventually, it's worse than looking through fog. At least for safety glasses, they expect you to trash them before the coating gets too bad. They may have improved the coating since I had problems, but I would never buy a Uvex product with that coating on it. Instead, I get glasses with the scratch resistant coating, and they last a LOT longer. However, fogging is going to be much more of an issue with a full face shield like the one shown. I use much simpler ones like others have linked to, and they are open enough that fog usually isn't an issue. Doug White |
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"Larry Jaques" wrote in message ... If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered...I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies... The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. --Thomas Jefferson Somebody said it, but it wasn't Jefferson. http://wiki.monticello.org/mediawiki...28Quotation%29 |
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On Feb 10, 7:46*pm, Doug White wrote:
Bill wrote : Anyone using a full face faceshield like this for any non-lathe woodworking *(to satisfy Lobby, I'm looking for something that will fit in my dishwasher... ; ) *? * *Seems like I saw a few people wearing them at The Woodworking Shows. I guess there's almost no limit to what you can protect against kickback, etc. *One reviewer who had a lathe throw a log into this mouth, knocking out a few teeth, swears now by the unit below. Uvex S8510 Bionic Black Matte Faceshield with Clear Anti-fog Hardcoat Visor http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...w_p60_d0_i4?pf _rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-3&pf_rd_r=0AJR1600W9PVP591FYH0&pf_rd _t=101&pf_rd_p=470938811&pf_rd_i=507846 As long as I'm throwing perfectly good money at dishwashers, buying something like this might help ease my pain. : ) Two comments: * 1) *Get something with easily replaceable shields, and get several spares. *That way when the change the design in a few years you don't find out the new shields won't fit. *DAMHIKT 2) *I used to buy Uvex safety glasses with the anti-fog coating. *The coating works great for a while, and then it gets cloudy. *Eventually, it's worse than looking through fog. *At least for safety glasses, they expect you to trash them before the coating gets too bad. *They may have improved the coating since I had problems, but I would never buy a Uvex product with that coating on it. *Instead, I get glasses with the scratch resistant coating, and they last a LOT longer. *However, fogging is going to be much more of an issue with a full face shield like the one shown. * I use much simpler ones like others have linked to, and they are open enough that fog usually isn't an issue. Doug White- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Maybe you could wear one of those chainsaw helmet/earmuff/faceshield units - no fogging problem with the mesh. And some even have a plastic area over the eyes. We have a couple full plastic shields in the shop that get used pretty regularly - especially when wire- brushing. |
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"DGDevin" writes: "Larry Jaques" wrote in message .. . If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered...I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies... The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. --Thomas Jefferson Somebody said it, but it wasn't Jefferson. http://wiki.monticello.org/mediawiki...28Quotation%29 He didn't specify *which* Thomas Jefferson. -- Drew Lawson | "Look! A big distracting thing!" | -- Crow T. Robot. | |
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That's what happens when you allow cloning experiments on human beings.
Bush was another. "Drew Lawson" wrote in message ... He didn't specify *which* Thomas Jefferson. -- Drew Lawson | "Look! A big distracting thing!" | -- Crow T. Robot. | |
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On 2/9/2011 4:18 PM, Stuart wrote:
In , Jack wrote: You should at least go with a supplied air mask, Bill: http://tinyurl.com/49vmdl4 or the trendier http://tinyurl.com/4fdv3oe I wouldn't consider one of those unless it had a built in CO2 detector. You work in an area where you are likely to encounter high levels of CO2? The more my next steak farts, the more CO2 smothers the earth. When you guys stop wringing your hands over getting stabbed with kickback, cutting your hands off without a SawStop, a blade guard, a riving knife, losing your hearing w/o giant ear muffs and all that rot, you can wring your hands over CO2, cow farts and global warming causing huge snow drifts blocking your shop doors... After you succumb to some of AlGores CO2 poisoning, at least know I warned you. -- Jack You Can't Fix Stupid, but You Can Vote it Out! http://jbstein.com |
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"Larry Jaques" wrote in message ... g I got that from the first of the Money Masters videos Swingy suggested a couple weeks ago, and I'm certainly not the first to misattribute this statement to Jefferson. shrug It sounded suspicious to me from the get-go ("inflation" and "deflation" as economic terms), so I took a moment to do a search. There is a legitimate Jefferson quotation on a similar theme¹ but somebody has taken the time to jazz it up and pass if off as the real thing. There is an issue of rhetorical credibility here; whoever first created (actually forged) the quotation is not someone I'd trust from then on, I'd always be wondering what else they're not being honest about. These days accepting almost any quotation one sees online at face value seems to be a risky business. ¹ "And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale." |
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On Fri, 11 Feb 2011 15:48:22 -0500, Jack Stein
wrote: The more my next steak farts, the more CO2 smothers the earth. When you guys stop wringing your hands over getting stabbed with kickback, cutting your hands off without a SawStop, a blade guard, a riving knife, losing your hearing w/o giant ear muffs and all that rot, you can wring your hands over CO2, cow farts and global warming causing huge snow drifts blocking your shop doors... After you succumb to some of AlGores CO2 poisoning, at least know I warned you. Jack the complaint bureau has closed due to the economy. Mark |
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On 2/11/2011 3:15 PM, DGDevin wrote:
be wondering what else they're not being honest about. These days accepting almost any quotation one sees online at face value seems to be a risky business. "'The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." Remains a valid argument despite the misattribution to Edmund Burke. The written word overrides all, but only as long as it remains intact. Relying on online resources to do any meaningful "research", particularly that extrapolated from a time when capturing the spoken word verbatim, in most any manner, was a difficult, if not impossible, task, is nothing but a fools game. -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 4/15/2010 KarlC@ (the obvious) |
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"Swingman" wrote in message ... Relying on online resources to do any meaningful "research", particularly that extrapolated from a time when capturing the spoken word verbatim, in most any manner, was a difficult, if not impossible, task, is nothing but a fools game. There is nothing wrong with online research provided you are cautious and thorough. Many people stop at one source, particularly if it tells them what they want to hear, and that's risky. But it was risky when the library was the only place to do research too; two history books might give very different versions of the same events. However it is true that the internet gives a worldwide voice to fools and liars, any clown with net access can post nonsense that somebody else will believe. |
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