New TV. Big, and better half wants doors in front of it. I'm thinking
tambour doors, but the Amana 3-bit set is expensive. The Rockler 2-bit kit
is cheaper, but requires wires. Is there another way apart from gluing
strips onto canvas?

Any advice which may be the best way to make doors for a 42" TV?

Thanks in advance!

--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

Download and display one of those fireplace videos with the cracking wood or
scenic places on it and forget covering up the beatiful piece of art.

Get a decent 60" size one for yourself and hide it from her. Your eyes
aren't getting any younger. If she buys that go for the 3D also.



"Han" wrote in message
...
New TV. Big, and better half wants doors in front of it. I'm thinking
tambour doors, but the Amana 3-bit set is expensive. The Rockler 2-bit kit
is cheaper, but requires wires. Is there another way apart from gluing
strips onto canvas?

Any advice which may be the best way to make doors for a 42" TV?

Thanks in advance!

--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

On Feb 2, 8:57*pm, Han wrote:
New TV. Big, and better half wants doors in front of it. *I'm thinking
tambour doors, but the Amana 3-bit set is expensive. *The Rockler 2-bit kit
is cheaper, but requires wires. *Is there another way apart from gluing
strips onto canvas?

Any advice which may be the best way to make doors for a 42" TV?

What's your objection to the strips on canvas route?

R

RicodJour wrote in
:

On Feb 2, 8:57*pm, Han wrote:
New TV. Big, and better half wants doors in front of it. *I'm
thinking tambour doors, but the Amana 3-bit set is expensive. *The
Rockler 2-bit kit is cheaper, but requires wires. Is there another way
apart from gluing strips onto canvas?

Any advice which may be the best way to make doors for a 42" TV?

What's your objection to the strips on canvas route?

R

Don't have a real reason for liking the interlocking strips better than the
glued on canvas route. Just that if I'm going to make doors this big
(sorry, Josepi), I want them to work well and look good too (I hope that's
correct English, I sometimes get well and good mixed up).

--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

Don't forget to allow for all the ventilation these flat panel sets need.

Look at the existing vent holes in the case and match up to them.

I have seen some cool self activated flat panel raising cabinets in the
stores but they run about $6K (for up to 80" units) and the cabinet / wood
style is not my choice. The lid rises and the set slowly rises up above the
cabinet, then lowers and closes the lid when shut off again. Power bars,
speaker provisions and the lot all in one package.


"Han" wrote in message
...
Don't have a real reason for liking the interlocking strips better than the
glued on canvas route. Just that if I'm going to make doors this big
(sorry, Josepi), I want them to work well and look good too (I hope that's
correct English, I sometimes get well and good mixed up).

--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

Sorry "up to 60" displays."

"Josepi" wrote in message
news Don't forget to allow for all the ventilation these flat panel sets need.

Look at the existing vent holes in the case and match up to them.

I have seen some cool self activated flat panel raising cabinets in the
stores but they run about $6K (for up to 80" units) and the cabinet / wood
style is not my choice. The lid rises and the set slowly rises up above the
cabinet, then lowers and closes the lid when shut off again. Power bars,
speaker provisions and the lot all in one package.


"Han" wrote in message
...
Don't have a real reason for liking the interlocking strips better than the
glued on canvas route. Just that if I'm going to make doors this big
(sorry, Josepi), I want them to work well and look good too (I hope that's
correct English, I sometimes get well and good mixed up).

--
Best regards
Han
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On Feb 2, 9:28*pm, "Josepi" wrote:

Don't forget to allow for all the ventilation these flat panel sets need.

Excellent point. I'm sure Han is planning on having the TV on when
the door is closed so it's not _too_ easy to watch TV. Sheesh.

R

On Feb 2, 9:18*pm, Han wrote:

Don't have a real reason for liking the interlocking strips better than the
glued on canvas route. *Just that if I'm going to make doors this big
(sorry, Josepi), I want them to work well and look good too (I hope that's
correct English, I sometimes get well and good mixed up).

I've never built tambours that big, but there's nothing wrong at all
with the canvas and wood construction. The only possible downside
would be warping, and that's more a function of wood selection and
depth. You could route a recess in the back of a few of the strips
and insert reinforcement - fiberglass epoxied in place, but that's
probably overkill.

It is possible to have the wood strips interlock with each other on a
canvas tambour. Think cove and bead. Clearances are of course an
issue, so you'd have to mock it up, and wood strip size would be
dependent on the involved radii the tambour would have to follow into
it's concealed position.

Where were you planning on storing the tambour when the door is open?
The connections in back and the mounting hardware complicates things.

Post a picture of the look you're going for so we can get a clearer
idea of what you want.

Oh, and remember not to have the TV on when the door is closed.

R

"Han" wrote in message
...
New TV. Big, and better half wants doors in front of it. I'm
thinking
tambour doors, but the Amana 3-bit set is expensive. The Rockler
2-bit kit
is cheaper, but requires wires. Is there another way apart from
gluing
strips onto canvas?

Any advice which may be the best way to make doors for a 42" TV?

Thanks in advance!

--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

O:

Does your cabinetry or cabinetry ideas allow for pocket doors?
I'm considering a built-in at the moment and am at the stage of
inventorying concepts, of which there are plenty. If you are
are not constrained to wood by the she, there are a number
of ways to go across cost levels.

Here is the Google image feed on "cabinet pocket doors":

http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&q...w=1041&bih=502

Regards,

Edward Hennessey

On 2/2/2011 7:57 PM, Han wrote:
New TV. Big, and better half wants doors in front of it. I'm thinking
tambour doors, but the Amana 3-bit set is expensive. The Rockler 2-bit kit
is cheaper, but requires wires. Is there another way apart from gluing
strips onto canvas?

When I built some tambour door appliance garages a couple of years ago
all internet roads led back to Rockler for just about everything.

If you want to buy ready made, IIRC, 50" widths were readily available.

--
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KarlC@ (the obvious)

On Feb 2, 10:00*pm, RicodJour wrote:
On Feb 2, 9:28*pm, "Josepi" wrote:



Don't forget to allow for all the ventilation these flat panel sets need.

Excellent point. *I'm sure Han is planning on having the TV on when
the door is closed so it's not _too_ easy to watch TV. *Sheesh.

R

Now that's funny right there...

On Feb 3, 12:24*am, Swingman wrote:
On 2/2/2011 7:57 PM, Han wrote:

New TV. Big, and better half wants doors in front of it. *I'm thinking
tambour doors, but the Amana 3-bit set is expensive. *The Rockler 2-bit kit
is cheaper, but requires wires. *Is there another way apart from gluing
strips onto canvas?

When I built some tambour door appliance garages a couple of years ago
all internet roads led back to Rockler for just about everything.

If you want to buy ready made, IIRC, 50" widths were readily available.

--www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 4/15/2010
KarlC@ (the obvious)

For sure ready made is the way to go here. All kinds of woods,
shapes...and lower cost than what you'd expect.
I have made canvas backed tambours... it's not that easy. The strips
like to stick to each other when gluing up the panels... a little wax
on the sides of the strips helps that.

Robatoy wrote in
:

On Feb 2, 10:00*pm, RicodJour wrote:
On Feb 2, 9:28*pm, "Josepi" wrote:



Don't forget to allow for all the ventilation these flat panel sets
nee
d.

Excellent point. *I'm sure Han is planning on having the TV on when
the door is closed so it's not _too_ easy to watch TV. *Sheesh.

R

Now that's funny right there...

I'm planning to get a multiple outlet strip with individual switches, so
the TV can be totally off, rather than standby. Same for the Bluray
player. DVR will likely stay on (guess why ...)

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Han
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On Feb 3, 9:10*am, Han wrote:


*DVR will likely stay on (guess why ...)


Lemme seeee.... so you can time-shift Oprah? Maury?
..
..
..
nyuk, nyuk

RicodJour wrote in news:5a0eca68-31a0-4beb-
:

I've never built tambours that big, but there's nothing wrong at all
with the canvas and wood construction. The only possible downside
would be warping, and that's more a function of wood selection and
depth. You could route a recess in the back of a few of the strips
and insert reinforcement - fiberglass epoxied in place, but that's
probably overkill.

It is possible to have the wood strips interlock with each other on a
canvas tambour. Think cove and bead. Clearances are of course an
issue, so you'd have to mock it up, and wood strip size would be
dependent on the involved radii the tambour would have to follow into
it's concealed position.

Good suggestions, and I will take them into account for the final design.
It's really early in the process.

Where were you planning on storing the tambour when the door is open?
The connections in back and the mounting hardware complicates things.

The doors would leave enough space behind the TV for the wires and
cables, and ventilation.

Post a picture of the look you're going for so we can get a clearer
idea of what you want.

Good suggestion. Actually the picture turned out fuzzy and has too many
personal stuff in it for posting. Description follows:

Location is at 2 intersecting blind walls (no windows). We now have 2
sideboards along these walls. The TV is on the left-hand sideboard
(71x18x29 w/d/h). There is 19" more space along the wall from the
intersecting corner to the entrance to stairs to upstairs. The right-
hand sideboard will be sacrificed or recycled.

The plan is to move the left-hand sideboard a bit leftwards, so that
there will be up room for an up to 19" deep floor to ceiling bookcase on
the right side wall (92" from the corner to the dining room "opening").

Then on top of the left-hand sideboard there will be a "bookcase" with a
door to the TV, and the rest of the equipment in a part of either
bookcase in the corner.

This sideboard is oak-veneered termite puke ("Scandinavian" style) that
has lasted 30 years and is still in good shape. It has 3 sliding doors
with lots of grandkids' toys that will need to stay there ...

So the idea is to make something oaky ...

Oh, and remember not to have the TV on when the door is closed.

Good point grin.

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Han
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"Edward Hennessey" wrote in
m:

Does your cabinetry or cabinetry ideas allow for pocket doors?
I'm considering a built-in at the moment and am at the stage of
inventorying concepts, of which there are plenty. If you are
are not constrained to wood by the she, there are a number
of ways to go across cost levels.

Here is the Google image feed on "cabinet pocket doors":

http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&q...ors%22&um=1&ie
=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1041&bih=502

Good idea. I thought about it, but the pocket doors would have to fold,
since the TV is more than twice as wide as the cabinet will be deep. Needs
further research, since it might be easier to make this than sliding
tambours.

THANKS!!!

--
Best regards
Han
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Robatoy wrote in news:4d1029fd-5030-41e4-9869-
:

On Feb 3, 12:24*am, Swingman wrote:
On 2/2/2011 7:57 PM, Han wrote:

New TV. Big, and better half wants doors in front of it. *I'm
thinking tambour doors, but the Amana 3-bit set is expensive. *The
Rockler 2-bit kit is cheaper, but requires wires. *Is there another
way apart from gluing strips onto canvas?

When I built some tambour door appliance garages a couple of years ago
all internet roads led back to Rockler for just about everything.

If you want to buy ready made, IIRC, 50" widths were readily
available.
--www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 4/15/2010
KarlC@ (the obvious)

For sure ready made is the way to go here. All kinds of woods,
shapes...and lower cost than what you'd expect.
I have made canvas backed tambours... it's not that easy. The strips
like to stick to each other when gluing up the panels... a little wax
on the sides of the strips helps that.

Thanks, Karl and Rob. Great info!

--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

Robatoy wrote in news:57c9cd15-1efd-4277-8f92-
:

On Feb 3, 9:10*am, Han wrote:


*DVR will likely stay on (guess why ...)


Lemme seeee.... so you can time-shift Oprah? Maury?
.
.
.
nyuk, nyuk

What is Maury? Nyuak isn't Dutch.



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Han
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On Feb 3, 9:41*am, Han wrote:
"Edward *Hennessey" wrote innews:JeCdnYhWxZw_ptfQnZ2dnUVZ_hadnZ2d@earthlink. com:

Does your cabinetry or cabinetry ideas allow for pocket doors?
I'm considering a built-in at the moment and am at the stage of
inventorying concepts, of which there are plenty. If you are
are not constrained to wood by the she, there are a number
of ways to go across cost levels.

Here is the Google image feed on "cabinet pocket doors":

http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&q...ors%22&um=1&ie
=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1041&bih=502

Good idea. I thought about it, but the pocket doors would have to fold,
since the TV is more than twice as wide as the cabinet will be deep. *Needs
further research, since it might be easier to make this than sliding
tambours.

THANKS!!!

Those are also called flipper doors. I don't believe they have
anything to do with the porpoise.

Were you thinking of running the tambour vertically or horizontally?

R

RicodJour wrote in news:9a034991-0437-4455-b979-
:

Those are also called flipper doors. I don't believe they have
anything to do with the porpoise.

Were you thinking of running the tambour vertically or horizontally?

Thanks again. Doors would have to move left to right, not up and down.
This will be right on top of a 3-door sideboard with horizontally moving
doors.

--
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Han
email address is invalid

On Feb 3, 10:55*am, Han wrote:
RicodJour wrote in news:9a034991-0437-4455-b979-
:

Those are also called flipper doors. *I don't believe they have
anything to do with the porpoise.

Were you thinking of running the tambour vertically or horizontally?

Thanks again. *Doors would have to move left to right, not up and down. *
This will be right on top of a 3-door sideboard with horizontally moving
doors.

--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

Find a guy with a cnc and have him cut some spirals for the top and
bottom to guide the tambour as you roll it sideways, If he cuts those
tracks/spirals out of High-density polyethylene (HDPE), they're self
lubricating and easy to cut. Instead of spiraling into a coil, you can
have the tambour go in behind the TV.

On 03 Feb 2011 01:57:10 GMT, Han wrote:

New TV. Big, and better half wants doors in front of it. I'm thinking
tambour doors, but the Amana 3-bit set is expensive. The Rockler 2-bit kit
is cheaper, but requires wires. Is there another way apart from gluing
strips onto canvas?

Any advice which may be the best way to make doors for a 42" TV?

Thanks in advance!

Han,

Tomorrow, Friday, 2/4 on channel 471, WLIW Create, at 11AM, 5PM and
11PM Rough Cut will be broadcast. The project is a breadbox with
tambour door. Have a look to get an idea of what is involved when
using the canvas method.

Regards,
Tom

Robatoy wrote in news:a6a3c9bf-a18e-45bd-b6c1-
:

Find a guy with a cnc and have him cut some spirals for the top and
bottom to guide the tambour as you roll it sideways, If he cuts those
tracks/spirals out of High-density polyethylene (HDPE), they're self
lubricating and easy to cut. Instead of spiraling into a coil, you can
have the tambour go in behind the TV.


I'll keep that in mind!!


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Han
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tommyboy wrote in
:

snip
Tomorrow, Friday, 2/4 on channel 471, WLIW Create, at 11AM, 5PM and
11PM Rough Cut will be broadcast. The project is a breadbox with
tambour door. Have a look to get an idea of what is involved when
using the canvas method.

Regards,
Tom

Set to record! Thanks!

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Han
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RicodJour wrote in news:9a034991-0437-4455-b979-
:

Those are also called flipper doors. I don't believe they have
anything to do with the porpoise.

Looking into that, the problem (or is it not a problem?) is that the doors
are to be wider than the depth of the cabinet. Can you have double bifold
doors that swivel and can be pushed in like a pocket door/flipper door?

--
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Han
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On Feb 3, 1:05*pm, Han wrote:
RicodJour wrote in news:9a034991-0437-4455-b979-
:

Those are also called flipper doors. *I don't believe they have
anything to do with the porpoise.

Looking into that, the problem (or is it not a problem?) is that the doors
are to be wider than the depth of the cabinet. *Can you have double bifold
doors that swivel and can be pushed in like a pocket door/flipper door?

When you say double bifold, if you mean a pair of bifolds - four
leaves in two pairs, with one pair on each side, yes, absolutely.
Very common.

R

Han wrote:
RicodJour wrote in
news:9a034991-0437-4455-b979-
:

Those are also called flipper doors. I don't believe they have
anything to do with the porpoise.

Looking into that, the problem (or is it not a problem?) is that the
doors are to be wider than the depth of the cabinet. Can you have
double bifold doors that swivel and can be pushed in like a pocket
door/flipper door?

sure. hinge them in the middle. to operate, swing the entire door outwards,
swing the outside half in, then shove the door into the cabinet.

what's on the other side of the wall? perhaps you can just put the entire
door/tv/stand on a swivel and rotate it.

On Feb 3, 1:05*pm, Han wrote:
RicodJour wrote in news:

Those are also called flipper doors. *I don't believe they have
anything to do with the porpoise.

Looking into that, the problem (or is it not a problem?) is that the doors
are to be wider than the depth of the cabinet. *Can you have double bifold
doors that swivel and can be pushed in like a pocket door/flipper door?

Additional info:
http://www.woodweb.com/knowledge_bas...t_Center..html

R

Ironic how my TV was bragged to be 1.2" thick and yet a mount will hold it
6-8" off the wall and a cabinet will make it 12-16" deep again.

You may find the doors will never get closed, anyway, except for drunken
parties.


"chaniarts" wrote in message
...
sure. hinge them in the middle. to operate, swing the entire door outwards,
swing the outside half in, then shove the door into the cabinet.

what's on the other side of the wall? perhaps you can just put the entire
door/tv/stand on a swivel and rotate it.

RicodJour wrote in
:

On Feb 3, 1:05*pm, Han wrote:
RicodJour wrote in news:

Those are also called flipper doors. *I don't believe they have
anything to do with the porpoise.

Looking into that, the problem (or is it not a problem?) is that the
doors are to be wider than the depth of the cabinet. Can you have
double bifold doors that swivel and can be pushed in like a pocket
door/flipper door?


Additional info:
http://www.woodweb.com/knowledge_bas...tertainment_Ce
nter.html

R

Thanks! Now I know what to do. Better half will have to make the final
decision ...
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Han
email address is invalid

On Feb 3, 3:19*pm, Han wrote:
RicodJour wrote innews:

Additional info:
http://www.woodweb.com/knowledge_bas...tertainment_Ce
nter.html


Thanks! *Now I know what to do. *Better half will have to make the final
decision ...

That's fine as long as you get to hang on to the remote.

R

On Feb 3, 7:52*am, "dadiOH" wrote:
Han wrote:
?
New TV. Big, and better half wants doors in front of it. *I'm thinking
tambour doors, but the Amana 3-bit set is expensive. *The Rockler
2-bit kit is cheaper, but requires wires. *Is there another way apart
from gluing strips onto canvas?

Any advice which may be the best way to make doors for a 42" TV?

Barrister?

Why would he need a lawyer to do a little woodworking? Do you work
for SawStop?
{ducking}

R

"dadiOH" wrote in
:

"Maury" is Maury Popovich. He has a sleazy daytime TV show and makes
Jerry Springer look like Walter Cronkite.

I only watch home or woodworking shows.






grin.
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RicodJour wrote in
:

On Feb 3, 3:19*pm, Han wrote:
RicodJour wrote innews:

Additional info:

http://www.woodweb.com/knowledge_bas...ainment_Center
..html


Thanks! *Now I know what to do. *Better half will have to make the
final decision ...

That's fine as long as you get to hang on to the remote.

R

What do you know about penis envy?
(help!!!)

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"dadiOH" wrote in news:4d4b1493$0$13941$882e7ee2
@usenet-news.net:

Han wrote:
New TV. Big, and better half wants doors in front of it. I'm thinking
tambour doors, but the Amana 3-bit set is expensive. The Rockler
2-bit kit is cheaper, but requires wires. Is there another way apart
from gluing strips onto canvas?

Any advice which may be the best way to make doors for a 42" TV?

Barrister?

TV is too high. Or I would need upper and lower barrister doors.
Otherwise a good idea.
I'm still torn between a roll-up tambour and a double set of bifold flipper
doors (2 doors, each bifold).

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Han
email address is invalid

On 2/3/2011 3:10 PM, Han wrote:
wrote in news:4d4b1493$0$13941$882e7ee2
@usenet-news.net:

Han wrote:
New TV. Big, and better half wants doors in front of it. I'm thinking
tambour doors, but the Amana 3-bit set is expensive. The Rockler
2-bit kit is cheaper, but requires wires. Is there another way apart
from gluing strips onto canvas?

Any advice which may be the best way to make doors for a 42" TV?

Barrister?

TV is too high. Or I would need upper and lower barrister doors.
Otherwise a good idea.
I'm still torn between a roll-up tambour and a double set of bifold flipper
doors (2 doors, each bifold).

I've done both and if I had my druthers I would personally rather got
the tambour route, the deciding factor being a greater chance of future
trouble free operation, and the satisfying feel of a tambour job well done.

While both can have their frustrating installation issues, my experience
is there is far less mechanical frustration down the road with a
traditional tambour installation ... although tambour may be just a bit
more involved upfront, it is the kind of involvement that requires
common woodworking skills (routing, ect), not mechanical skills.

Flipper doors can be a bitch during installation with the necessity for
'follow strips' and the fussy nature of the hardware.

Just my experience/tuppence ... YMMV

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KarlC@ (the obvious)

No wonder you want to cover up the TV...to keep the dust off.


"Han" wrote in message
...
I only watch home or woodworking shows.


grin.

On 03 Feb 2011 21:10:27 GMT, Han wrote:

"dadiOH" wrote in news:4d4b1493$0$13941$882e7ee2
:

Han wrote:
New TV. Big, and better half wants doors in front of it. I'm thinking
tambour doors, but the Amana 3-bit set is expensive. The Rockler
2-bit kit is cheaper, but requires wires. Is there another way apart
from gluing strips onto canvas?

Any advice which may be the best way to make doors for a 42" TV?

Barrister?

TV is too high. Or I would need upper and lower barrister doors.
Otherwise a good idea.
I'm still torn between a roll-up tambour and a double set of bifold flipper
doors (2 doors, each bifold).

Of course before you commit to wall mount, DAGS pop up tv mount?

Just stirring

Mark

Markem wrote in
:

Of course before you commit to wall mount, DAGS pop up tv mount?

I have no intention for that. It would mean fudsing with the existing 3-
door sideboard that I want to incorporate.

Just stirring
Fine! You got my answer anyway!
Mark

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Swingman wrote in
:

On 2/3/2011 3:10 PM, Han wrote:
wrote in news:4d4b1493$0$13941$882e7ee2
@usenet-news.net:

Han wrote:
New TV. Big, and better half wants doors in front of it. I'm
thinking tambour doors, but the Amana 3-bit set is expensive. The
Rockler 2-bit kit is cheaper, but requires wires. Is there another
way apart from gluing strips onto canvas?

Any advice which may be the best way to make doors for a 42" TV?

Barrister?

TV is too high. Or I would need upper and lower barrister doors.
Otherwise a good idea.
I'm still torn between a roll-up tambour and a double set of bifold
flipper doors (2 doors, each bifold).

I've done both and if I had my druthers I would personally rather got
the tambour route, the deciding factor being a greater chance of
future trouble free operation, and the satisfying feel of a tambour
job well done.

While both can have their frustrating installation issues, my
experience is there is far less mechanical frustration down the road
with a traditional tambour installation ... although tambour may be
just a bit more involved upfront, it is the kind of involvement that
requires common woodworking skills (routing, ect), not mechanical
skills.

Flipper doors can be a bitch during installation with the necessity
for 'follow strips' and the fussy nature of the hardware.

Just my experience/tuppence ... YMMV

Thanks Karl and DadiOH.

I'll let everyone know what spouse and I decide on.

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