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Saw the grr-ripper plastic pusher / holder at a show. Lee valley also has
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http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/pag...240,45884&ap=1

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Saw the grr-ripper plastic pusher / holder at a show. Lee valley also has
it.
http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/pag...240,45884&ap=1

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There was a thread on it recently--if you look for it on Google Groups
you should find it.

Bottom line is that it works nicely, does what they say it does, in
principle you can make a workalike without much trouble, in practice
making a workalike is more effort than it's worth unless you're just
doing it for the exercise.


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Saw the grr-ripper plastic pusher / holder at a show. Lee valley also has
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http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/pag...240,45884&ap=1

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Buy two.

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Saw the grr-ripper plastic pusher / holder at a show. Lee valley
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http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/pag...240,45884&ap=1

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The reviews on Amazon glow. Other information--including manuals--are
available on www.microjig.com,
the manufacturer. eBay offers the best prices, including the pairs
that appear to be optimal. Not cheap but
what does your first bloodletting cost?

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Saw the grr-ripper plastic pusher / holder at a show. Lee valley also has
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Not a solution looking for a problem, these things are great and as others
have said, get a pair. They come with a jack leg that will support the
gripper when cutting narrow stock. This prevents the pusher from tilting.
It is handy to have one ready with the jack leg adjustment when you are in a
ripping production mode and you stock is narrower than the gripper.




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On 10/20/2010 7:48 PM, Four Fingers wrote:
Saw the grr-ripper plastic pusher / holder at a show. Lee valley also has
it.
http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/pag...240,45884&ap=1

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Buy two.



Agreed

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1

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Not a solution looking for a problem, these things are great and as
others have said, get a pair. They come with a jack leg that will
support the gripper when cutting narrow stock. This prevents the
pusher from tilting. It is handy to have one ready with the jack leg
adjustment when you are in a ripping production mode and you stock is
narrower than the gripper.




As the others have said "get two". I was lucky enough to find two at a
garage sale for a great price, but I was planning on getting a pair
anyway. They work every bit as well as advertised.

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FF:

Check that www.microjig.com website.

Microjig also offers two
accessories besides the MJ handle: an attachment that allows cutting
stock
thin as 1/8" and a transparent plate for deflecting chips and,
apparently, for
connecting two grippers side-by-side on wide stock.

A lot of folk using this report they are able to do away with the
featherboard
or at least adjust it--in certain applications--to apply less tension
on the
workpiece, reducing pinching of the workpiece and kickback.

It would be nice if the system was not spendy but as you imply 4
fingers on each
hand is good. By the way, in Spanish, all the digits are "dedos"
(fingers), so your
handle would lose a bit of the ambiguity if you're ever translating.

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Saw the grr-ripper plastic pusher / holder at a show. Lee valley also has
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http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/pag...240,45884&ap=1

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I guess my opinion is somewhere in between the rest. My opinion is
this is a good safety accessory for a pretty high price.

You can make suitable safety accessories yourself for little cost and
some time, or you can purchase them. Your choice. If you decide to
purchase, the Grr-ripper is the best I've seen.

I made my own before the Grr-ripper became available, and I am
satisfied I am operating safely. If I had to choose today, I'd do the
same, thinking my time is hobby time and making my own is worth it
because I enjoy doing it.

Others feel their time is more valuably spent on more "productive"
work. Which I believe is reasonable point of view as well. Just not
for me.
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Wow! Still sore.


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Bull**** and you know it.
But go on and keep arguing if it boosts your self esteem.




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That's fine for pushing from an edge. *The grr-ripper has high friction
material on it and no hook so it can push from the center of a piece,
letting you (a) apply pressure toward the fence and (b) hold the piece
down while not having your hand anywhere near the blade.


The second you release pressure, for whatever reason, what
happens to the piece of wood between the blade and the fence?
I have more trust in a traditional push shoe with a hooked aft end.


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What am I missing?

Certainly not the money still in my wallet.

Lew


I'm with you Lew. Just another fancy gadget.


Easy to say that if you've never used them.

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Bull**** and you know it.
But go on and keep arguing if it boosts your self esteem.

Why are you so determined to pick a fight over this? Did somebody steal
your life or something?



Gentlemen, gentlemen!!
Check this book out at your library and read just the first chapter.


OK, I'm game. Why just the first chapter?


let me try that again. :-)


MUCH better this time, Maxxy.


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Dayum, another one I have to buy. I still haven't gotten into David
Crystal's _How Language Works_. My stack of "to be read" books has
gone from a stack into an entire 7' tall bookcase, but I do make
headway every now and then.

Question: Have you been able to watch television again after reading
that book? I think that it might make it harder for ya. (I already
gave up TV nearly 4 years ago. Amazon and the library are my closest
friends.)

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On Oct 22, 12:41 am, "Lew wrote:
What am I missing?

Certainly not the money still in my wallet.

Lew


I'm with you Lew. Just another fancy gadget.


Easy to say that if you've never used them.


And what's wrong with a fancy gadget? :-)


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In article 481ca263-fc4c-4a96-a430-1de4b70541f3@
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On Oct 22, 6:39 am, "J. Clarke" wrote:


That's fine for pushing from an edge. The grr-ripper has high
friction
material on it and no hook so it can push from the center of a
piece,
letting you (a) apply pressure toward the fence and (b) hold the
piece
down while not having your hand anywhere near the blade.


The second you release pressure, for whatever reason, what
happens to the piece of wood between the blade and the fence?


The same thing that always happens when you release pressure. *Part
of
skill comes in not releasing pressure.


I have more trust in a traditional push shoe with a hooked aft end.


Which only works on an edge.


Right. Conveying a long board into a cut is an advantage for the
gripper. Also,
the conformable bottom on the tool allows a better hold of contoured
materials for the
same purpose.

Regards,

Edward Hennessey- Hide quoted text -

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When feeding a long board, my hands are already a
safe distance from the blade.

What exactly is the obsession with not sawing off
fingers? A bit of caution is a good thing, but go
overboard, and you might as well not use a
tablesaw at all.


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"Max" wrote in message
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In article ,
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Bull**** and you know it.
But go on and keep arguing if it boosts your self esteem.

Why are you so determined to pick a fight over this? Did somebody
steal
your life or something?


Gentlemen, gentlemen!!
Check this book out at your library and read just the first chapter.


OK, I'm game. Why just the first chapter?


let me try that again. :-)


MUCH better this time, Maxxy.


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Dayum, another one I have to buy. I still haven't gotten into David
Crystal's _How Language Works_. My stack of "to be read" books has
gone from a stack into an entire 7' tall bookcase, but I do make
headway every now and then.

Question: Have you been able to watch television again after reading
that book? I think that it might make it harder for ya. (I already
gave up TV nearly 4 years ago. Amazon and the library are my closest
friends.)

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I'm on my second Kindle. Saves trips to the library. I have on occasion
watched Nova, Nat'l Geo, Discovery, and, if I'm particularly bored, I'll
watch part of a football game. I watched Faux news once and it scared me.

Maxie. (but only to friends)

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In article 481ca263-fc4c-4a96-a430-1de4b70541f3@
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On Oct 22, 6:39 am, "J. Clarke" wrote:


That's fine for pushing from an edge. The grr-ripper has high
friction
material on it and no hook so it can push from the center of a
piece,
letting you (a) apply pressure toward the fence and (b) hold the
piece
down while not having your hand anywhere near the blade.


The second you release pressure, for whatever reason, what
happens to the piece of wood between the blade and the fence?


The same thing that always happens when you release pressure. *Part
of
skill comes in not releasing pressure.


I have more trust in a traditional push shoe with a hooked aft end.


Which only works on an edge.


Right. Conveying a long board into a cut is an advantage for the
gripper. Also,
the conformable bottom on the tool allows a better hold of contoured
materials for the
same purpose.

Regards,

Edward Hennessey- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


When feeding a long board, my hands are already a
safe distance from the blade.


Then you aren't the target audience, so don't buy it.

What exactly is the obsession with not sawing off
fingers?


Well, I dunno about you but I find them useful things to have.

A bit of caution is a good thing, but go
overboard, and you might as well not use a
tablesaw at all.


So to you the choices are to use a shopmade pushstick or go overboard?


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On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 16:38:04 -0600, "Max"
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"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
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On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 08:30:39 -0600, "Max"
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"Max" wrote in message
"J. Clarke" wrote in message
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Bull**** and you know it.
But go on and keep arguing if it boosts your self esteem.

Why are you so determined to pick a fight over this? Did somebody
steal
your life or something?


Gentlemen, gentlemen!!
Check this book out at your library and read just the first chapter.

OK, I'm game. Why just the first chapter?


You didn't answer this one.


MUCH better this time, Maxxy.


I'm on my second Kindle. Saves trips to the library. I have on occasion
watched Nova, Nat'l Geo, Discovery, and, if I'm particularly bored, I'll
watch part of a football game.


It's a bit more expensive than the library, but I'm sure it saves lots
of time and hassles. They put a self-check scanner in our local
branch so I can be in and out of there, dropping off books and
grabbing another armful, in 5 minutes. But they're only open about 20
hours/week. Kindle has WIFI, eh?


I watched Faux news once and it scared me.


I'm glad I'd swallowed my tea before reading that line, ya wuss.


Maxie. (but only to friends)


Rightio!

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Ah, the first chapter only question. It occurs to me that the individuals
involved aren't the sort who might be willing to slog through the rest of
the
tome. (interesting how closely the spelling is to "tomb".)
But they need only the first chapter to discover that semantics often
determine one's whole way of thinking and that disagreements often arise
when someone has not the lexical dexterity to phrase his/her opinion
precisely as required for clear understanding or the recipient of an opinion
lacks the vocabulary to accurately interpret what was intended.
On the other hand, one or the other of the fine gentlemen might be a bit of
a pedant.
Or maybe someone ****ed in their Cheerios.

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individuals involved aren't the sort who might be willing to slog
through the rest of the tome.

Max


wow, Max.
Are you trying to be arrogant and condescending or does it just come
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On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 16:38:04 -0600, "Max"
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"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
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On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 08:30:39 -0600, "Max"
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"Max" wrote in message


Gentlemen, gentlemen!!
Check this book out at your library and read just the first chapter.

OK, I'm game. Why just the first chapter?


You didn't answer this one.


Ah, the first chapter only question. It occurs to me that the individuals
involved aren't the sort who might be willing to slog through the rest of
the
tome. (interesting how closely the spelling is to "tomb".)


Mmm, hmm. That bad, eh?


But they need only the first chapter to discover that semantics often
determine one's whole way of thinking and that disagreements often arise
when someone has not the lexical dexterity to phrase his/her opinion
precisely as required for clear understanding or the recipient of an opinion
lacks the vocabulary to accurately interpret what was intended.


They's a passel of boaf dem types herebouts.


On the other hand, one or the other of the fine gentlemen might be a bit of
a pedant.
Or maybe someone ****ed in their Cheerios.


Or C) Both of the Above.

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Ah, the first chapter only question. It occurs to me that the
individuals involved aren't the sort who might be willing to slog
through the rest of the tome.

Max


wow, Max.
Are you trying to be arrogant and condescending or does it just come
natural? :-)


Um..............sarcastic........maybe?

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I left out the possibility that, using an old expression of mine, "maybe the
fire ants are in hibernation".
I have several friends who, in their idle moments, descend into
confrontational arguments. These folks are highly intelligent compatriots
and ordinarily present cogent reasoning in any discussion in which they
engage. ( I suspect the same applies to you and your antagonist) but when
"the fire ants are hibernating" and my friends don't have to direct their
attention to eradication activities (they aren't "busy") they join in debate
over relative trivia. I have on a number of occasions read your worthy
posts and was a bit surprised at the time you devoted to a more or less
pointless diversion. The same applies to your opponent.

(Oh...... the book is a challenge. That's why I used the words "slog" and
"tomb". I suspect that the author needs to produce a certain number of
publications and has run out of ideas for letters to the editor)

Yours for increased sawdust production,
Max (as you can well imagine I don't have a problem with fire ants)


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On 10/24/10 9:37 PM, Max wrote:
Ah, the first chapter only question. It occurs to me that the
individuals involved aren't the sort who might be willing to slog
through the rest of the tome.

Max


wow, Max.
Are you trying to be arrogant and condescending or does it just come
natural? :-)


Um..............sarcastic........maybe?


In here? Never.



I left out the possibility that, using an old expression of mine, "maybe
the fire ants are in hibernation".
I have several friends who, in their idle moments, descend into
confrontational arguments. These folks are highly intelligent
compatriots and ordinarily present cogent reasoning in any discussion in
which they engage. ( I suspect the same applies to you and your
antagonist) but when "the fire ants are hibernating" and my friends
don't have to direct their attention to eradication activities (they
aren't "busy") they join in debate over relative trivia. I have on a
number of occasions read your worthy posts and was a bit surprised at
the time you devoted to a more or less pointless diversion. The same
applies to your opponent.


I'm stealing that fire ants thing.


(Oh...... the book is a challenge. That's why I used the words "slog"
and "tomb". I suspect that the author needs to produce a certain number
of publications and has run out of ideas for letters to the editor)


I have a few that are a challenge to read because it seems the author
tried too hard to create paragraphs from what should be sentences,
chapters from paragraphs and a book from what should have been a chapter.

I have a few others that are a challenge because there's so much packed
into each paragraph, my brain hurts after only a few pages.


Yours for increased sawdust production,
Max (as you can well imagine I don't have a problem with fire ants)


peace.


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On Oct 24, 12:40*pm, "Edward *Hennessey"
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ain.local...


In article 481ca263-fc4c-4a96-a430-1de4b70541f3@
26g2000yqv.googlegroups.com, says...


On Oct 22, 6:39 am, "J. Clarke" wrote:


That's fine for pushing from an edge. The grr-ripper has high
friction
material on it and no hook so it can push from the center of a
piece,
letting you (a) apply pressure toward the fence and (b) hold the
piece
down while not having your hand anywhere near the blade.


The second you release pressure, for whatever reason, what
happens to the piece of wood between the blade and the fence?


The same thing that always happens when you release pressure. *Part
of
skill comes in not releasing pressure.


I have more trust in a traditional push shoe with a hooked aft end..


Which only works on an edge.


Right. Conveying a long board into a cut is an advantage for the
gripper. Also,
the conformable bottom on the tool allows a better hold of contoured
materials for the
same purpose.


Regards,


Edward Hennessey- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


When feeding a long board, my hands are already a
safe distance from the blade.


Then you aren't the target audience, so don't buy it.

What exactly is the obsession with not sawing off
fingers?


Well, I dunno about you but I find them useful things to have.


Been playing music for over 30 years. Fingers are *very*
useful for that.

A bit of caution is a good thing, but go
overboard, and you might as well not use a
tablesaw at all.


So to you the choices are to use a shopmade pushstick or go overboard?- Hide quoted text -

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Or keep your machine tuned up and pay attention.

Why just *one* shopmade pushstick?


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ain.local...


In article 481ca263-fc4c-4a96-a430-1de4b70541f3@
26g2000yqv.googlegroups.com, says...


On Oct 22, 6:39 am, "J. Clarke" wrote:


That's fine for pushing from an edge. The grr-ripper has high
friction
material on it and no hook so it can push from the center of a
piece,
letting you (a) apply pressure toward the fence and (b) hold the
piece
down while not having your hand anywhere near the blade.


The second you release pressure, for whatever reason, what
happens to the piece of wood between the blade and the fence?


The same thing that always happens when you release pressure. *Part
of
skill comes in not releasing pressure.


I have more trust in a traditional push shoe with a hooked aft end.


Which only works on an edge.


Right. Conveying a long board into a cut is an advantage for the
gripper. Also,
the conformable bottom on the tool allows a better hold of contoured
materials for the
same purpose.


Regards,


Edward Hennessey- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


When feeding a long board, my hands are already a
safe distance from the blade.


Then you aren't the target audience, so don't buy it.

What exactly is the obsession with not sawing off
fingers?


Well, I dunno about you but I find them useful things to have.


Been playing music for over 30 years. Fingers are *very*
useful for that.

A bit of caution is a good thing, but go
overboard, and you might as well not use a
tablesaw at all.


So to you the choices are to use a shopmade pushstick or go overboard?- Hide quoted text -

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Or keep your machine tuned up and pay attention.

Why just *one* shopmade pushstick?


Wouldn't more than one be going overboard?

And why is it so horrible to use a store-bought push stick instead of
making one?

Quite frankly, you're starting to come across as a loon.


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On Oct 26, 11:30*pm, "J. Clarke" wrote:
In article 0649116a-5c2b-44f1-97fd-
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On Oct 24, 7:30*pm, "J. Clarke" wrote:
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On Oct 24, 12:40*pm, "Edward *Hennessey"
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In article 481ca263-fc4c-4a96-a430-1de4b70541f3@
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On Oct 22, 6:39 am, "J. Clarke" wrote:


That's fine for pushing from an edge. The grr-ripper has high
friction
material on it and no hook so it can push from the center of a
piece,
letting you (a) apply pressure toward the fence and (b) hold the
piece
down while not having your hand anywhere near the blade.


The second you release pressure, for whatever reason, what
happens to the piece of wood between the blade and the fence?


The same thing that always happens when you release pressure. *Part
of
skill comes in not releasing pressure.


I have more trust in a traditional push shoe with a hooked aft end.


Which only works on an edge.


Right. Conveying a long board into a cut is an advantage for the
gripper. Also,
the conformable bottom on the tool allows a better hold of contoured
materials for the
same purpose.


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When feeding a long board, my hands are already a
safe distance from the blade.


Then you aren't the target audience, so don't buy it.


What exactly is the obsession with not sawing off
fingers?


Well, I dunno about you but I find them useful things to have.


Been playing music for over 30 years. *Fingers are *very*
useful for that.


A bit of caution is a good thing, but go
overboard, and you might as well not use a
tablesaw at all.


So to you the choices are to use a shopmade pushstick or go overboard?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Or keep your machine tuned up and pay attention.


Why just *one* shopmade pushstick?


Wouldn't more than one be going overboard?

And why is it so horrible to use a store-bought push stick instead of
making one?

Quite frankly, you're starting to come across as a loon.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I've been trying to come across as cheap.
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