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Table Saw Fence Accuracy - (Yes, I Googled)
Hi Everyone,
I've done my due diligence with a Google search, but since I'm so new to this world I'm not sure I understand what I'm reading. Okay, to the point... I'm considering the purchase of a modestly priced table saw such as the Grizzly 1022 series. What is a reasonable expectation for accuracy of the standard fence on a quality machine, specifically with regard to it being parallel to the blade? I will not be doing super precise work so I'm less concerned about the width scale, but in my opinion, a table saw fence is useless if it does not reliably clamp to parallel within a few hundredths of an inch over the length of the table. Am I going to have to buy a top-end fence to get there? I truly feel that if I have to manually adjust the angle of the fence for every set-up, then I might as well stick with the circular saw for my current work. This is a great group. Thanks for helping this newbie along. Tom Murphy |
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Table Saw Fence Accuracy - (Yes, I Googled)
I don't have a grizzly saw, but you will have to, most likely, adjust the
saw to parallel to the fence when you get it home. After that, it should be fine and you will need to tune it every once in a while after that. My 2 cents. "Tom Murphy" wrote in message om... Hi Everyone, I've done my due diligence with a Google search, but since I'm so new to this world I'm not sure I understand what I'm reading. Okay, to the point... I'm considering the purchase of a modestly priced table saw such as the Grizzly 1022 series. What is a reasonable expectation for accuracy of the standard fence on a quality machine, specifically with regard to it being parallel to the blade? I will not be doing super precise work so I'm less concerned about the width scale, but in my opinion, a table saw fence is useless if it does not reliably clamp to parallel within a few hundredths of an inch over the length of the table. Am I going to have to buy a top-end fence to get there? I truly feel that if I have to manually adjust the angle of the fence for every set-up, then I might as well stick with the circular saw for my current work. This is a great group. Thanks for helping this newbie along. Tom Murphy |
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Table Saw Fence Accuracy - (Yes, I Googled)
The blade needs to be parallel to the near edge of mitre slot.
The fence should taper away from the mitre slot by about 1/16 inch. The Forest rep (at the woodworking show, says the outfeed of the fence, at the blade, shoud be .003" further from the blade than at the infeed edge of the blade. The blade should not cut on the up side, or burn the wood. Align the blade to the table first, Dan 2003 15:17:37 -0800, "Jay" wrote: I don't have a grizzly saw, but you will have to, most likely, adjust the saw to parallel to the fence when you get it home. After that, it should be fine and you will need to tune it every once in a while after that. My 2 cents. "Tom Murphy" wrote in message . com... Hi Everyone, I've done my due diligence with a Google search, but since I'm so new to this world I'm not sure I understand what I'm reading. Okay, to the point... I'm considering the purchase of a modestly priced table saw such as the Grizzly 1022 series. What is a reasonable expectation for accuracy of the standard fence on a quality machine, specifically with regard to it being parallel to the blade? I will not be doing super precise work so I'm less concerned about the width scale, but in my opinion, a table saw fence is useless if it does not reliably clamp to parallel within a few hundredths of an inch over the length of the table. Am I going to have to buy a top-end fence to get there? I truly feel that if I have to manually adjust the angle of the fence for every set-up, then I might as well stick with the circular saw for my current work. This is a great group. Thanks for helping this newbie along. Tom Murphy Colorado Springs, CO My advice may be worth what you paid for it. |
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Table Saw Fence Accuracy - (Yes, I Googled)
I have the shop fox classic and it is a great fence (biesmeyer clone). I
think you can probably get that one as an option. Montyhp "Tom Murphy" wrote in message om... Hi Everyone, I've done my due diligence with a Google search, but since I'm so new to this world I'm not sure I understand what I'm reading. Okay, to the point... I'm considering the purchase of a modestly priced table saw such as the Grizzly 1022 series. What is a reasonable expectation for accuracy of the standard fence on a quality machine, specifically with regard to it being parallel to the blade? I will not be doing super precise work so I'm less concerned about the width scale, but in my opinion, a table saw fence is useless if it does not reliably clamp to parallel within a few hundredths of an inch over the length of the table. Am I going to have to buy a top-end fence to get there? I truly feel that if I have to manually adjust the angle of the fence for every set-up, then I might as well stick with the circular saw for my current work. This is a great group. Thanks for helping this newbie along. Tom Murphy |
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Table Saw Fence Accuracy - (Yes, I Googled)
Tom Murphy wrote:
That pretty much answers the question. A quality fence that is properly adjusted is expected to repeatably clamp parallel within "useful" accuracy. If I go with the Grizzly, I'll wait until I can afford the fence upgrade. It depends on your skill level. My first TS was a cheapo Delta bench saw. It was great for me for a long time. Eventually my inaccuracies were less than its and I needed a better saw. The G1022 with the low-end fence was great for me for a long time. My skills kept improving, and eventually I wanted a fence with better than 1/32" to 1/128" "flutter" on the back side. So I bought a used "Shop Fox Original" fence. The low-end G1022 fence is very good. If you use its micro adjust and always "sneak up" on the measurement from the same direction you'll be able to set it pretty durn accurately. In retrospect, I got the Shop Fox Original mostly because I was infatuated with it, not because the limits of the Grizzly were hard to work around... g -- Mark |
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Table Saw Fence Accuracy - (Yes, I Googled)
Tom,
Even the Grizzly is a great improvement over a circular saw. I say "even a Grizzly" because I own one I'm looking to upgrade. Mark got it right about the fence. If you always make last move in the same direction, the results will be predictable, and accurate enough. If you want a basic saw to test the water before you spend a lot of money, the Grizzly will do. If you expect this to be the last table saw you ever buy, keep looking. My main complaint with my Grizzley is not the fence, its the trunnion. The sector the blade tilts on has so much slop in it that the blade cannot be adjusted so that it stays parallel to the slots. I can get it parallel, but after tilting and returning, it has moved due to slack and it's not parallel anymore. This is not something that can be adjusted out; I've got to live with it or trade up. Now if you still want a Grizzly, I'll sell you mine cheap enough that you can buy a great fence with your savings. Seriously, for $150 plus shipping you (or anyone else) can have a good used saw with only the problems I've mentioned. Good Luck DonkeyHody (Tom Murphy) wrote in message . com... Hi Everyone, I've done my due diligence with a Google search, but since I'm so new to this world I'm not sure I understand what I'm reading. Okay, to the point... I'm considering the purchase of a modestly priced table saw such as the Grizzly 1022 series. What is a reasonable expectation for accuracy of the standard fence on a quality machine, specifically with regard to it being parallel to the blade? I will not be doing super precise work so I'm less concerned about the width scale, but in my opinion, a table saw fence is useless if it does not reliably clamp to parallel within a few hundredths of an inch over the length of the table. Am I going to have to buy a top-end fence to get there? I truly feel that if I have to manually adjust the angle of the fence for every set-up, then I might as well stick with the circular saw for my current work. This is a great group. Thanks for helping this newbie along. Tom Murphy |
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Table Saw Fence Accuracy - (Yes, I Googled)
"Mark Jerde" wrote in message ws.com...
Tom Murphy wrote: That pretty much answers the question. A quality fence that is properly adjusted is expected to repeatably clamp parallel within "useful" accuracy. If I go with the Grizzly, I'll wait until I can afford the fence upgrade. It depends on your skill level. My first TS was a cheapo Delta bench saw. It was great for me for a long time. Eventually my inaccuracies were less than its and I needed a better saw. The G1022 with the low-end fence was great for me for a long time. My skills kept improving, and eventually I wanted a fence with better than 1/32" to 1/128" "flutter" on the back side. So I bought a used "Shop Fox Original" fence. The low-end G1022 fence is very good. If you use its micro adjust and always "sneak up" on the measurement from the same direction you'll be able to set it pretty durn accurately. In retrospect, I got the Shop Fox Original mostly because I was infatuated with it, not because the limits of the Grizzly were hard to work around... g -- Mark You make an EXCELLENT point. My skill level is non-existent, and as I alluded to in my earlier post, I don't need super precision for the work I forsee. What I DESIRE is for the fence to "automatically" clamp parallel enough that the stock doesn't pinch between the blade and the fence, and such that the cut edge of the work is relatively parallel to the edge rode along the fence. I like your comment about being "infatuated" with the Shop Fox fence. That's an excellent assessment and you are obviously a man who knows himself well. I can DEFINITELY relate! I have several tools that are much less useful than that, but I own them because they're COOL! Thanks, Tom |
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Table Saw Fence Accuracy - (Yes, I Googled)
If your fence is anything but parallel, it WILL cut on the upside. With it
towed out as you describe. it will cut on the back on the waste side of the stock. "Dan Dunphy" wrote in message ... .. The blade should not cut on the up side, or burn the wood. Align the blade to the table first, Dan |
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