Hi.
I have A LOT of sanding to do, including the entire timberframe of my house,
plus hundreds of square feet of 1X4 T&G fir we're using on an inside wall.
All this sanding is going to be done INSIDE an almost finished house, so
dust would be a big problem. I think a 6" random orbital sander would be
the best choice and am considering the Festool RO150 and the Bosch 1250
DEVS. I'm sure they both do a go job of sanding, but is one better in terms
of ease of use? If one was even slightly less tiring to use, I'd go for
that considering how many hours I'm going to be spending using it.

My other dilema is the dust extractor. Festool CT Mini, CT Midi, CT 22 vs.
Fein Turbo II. I like the outward design of the Festool models, but the
Fine _seems_ like the winner based on noise. 72 db vs. 57.8 db is a big
difference. Has anyone heard them both? Is there really that much
difference between them?

I would sincerely appreciate any help from those who have experience with
the different models. Thanks!

-Tony-

"Tony Jester" wrote in message
et...
Hi.
I have A LOT of sanding to do, including the entire timberframe of my
house,
plus hundreds of square feet of 1X4 T&G fir we're using on an inside wall.
All this sanding is going to be done INSIDE an almost finished house, so
dust would be a big problem. I think a 6" random orbital sander would be
the best choice and am considering the Festool RO150 and the Bosch 1250
DEVS. I'm sure they both do a go job of sanding, but is one better in
terms
of ease of use? If one was even slightly less tiring to use, I'd go for
that considering how many hours I'm going to be spending using it.

My other dilema is the dust extractor. Festool CT Mini, CT Midi, CT 22
vs.
Fein Turbo II. I like the outward design of the Festool models, but the
Fine _seems_ like the winner based on noise. 72 db vs. 57.8 db is a big
difference. Has anyone heard them both? Is there really that much
difference between them?

I would sincerely appreciate any help from those who have experience with
the different models. Thanks!

-Tony-

Bosch sanders and drills seem to break when I use them. :~) I have the
Festool Rotex and if you need there to be a minimum of dust, that sander and
the Festool vac work great together. the Fein vac is said to be quite good
also. The RO150 and RO125 in the aggressive modes can keep up with a belt
sander. I can edge sand 3/4" stock with basically 2" of the 5" disk
overhanging on both sides and no dust gets away, well maybe a trace after a
couple of hours. The Rotex has a 3 year warranty and a 30 day money back
guarantee so there is no risk. The Festool sand paper seems to be quire
reasonably priced and last along time with the superior dust extraction.
The Festool sander is louder than the CT22 vacuum. I cannot hear the vacuum
on full speed when the sander is turned on. That goes for their lighter
duty ROS also. Turning the suction down on the Festool vacuum makes it even
quieter. Quiet is good but IMHO quieter than the tool you have hooked up to
it is plenty.
I think if you try both models out, most Festool dealers will let you to
that, you will find the Festool is up to the task.

Hello Tony,
My experience is with the Festool CT 22 but I think the Fein would do
the job just as well based on comments made by some Fein users I
know. I have the older Festool 150 (the Rotex) and I've used it in
inverted and angled postions and it got heavy. (4 pounds, I think).
I've had to switch hands often or use two when possible. I use mine
in a log home, sanding the beams, walls, underside of ceilings, etc.
Dust collection was excellent.
I ended up buying the smaller DTS sander for my wife because she did
not like using the Rotex on any surface other than horrizontal. Plus
the delta shape pad allowed me to get into corners that a round pad
would not.

One thing I think that makes the Festool preferable to the Fein is the
Festool has a flat rectangular top that provides a good platform to
set your tool, and if you have other Festools, their carrycases
securely mount to the top.
I think you'd also benefit from the larger of the three- the CT22 vs
the Mini or Midi.


Marc

"Tony Jester" wrote:

I have A LOT of sanding to do, including the entire timberframe of my
house,
plus hundreds of square feet of 1X4 T&G fir we're using on an inside wall.
All this sanding is going to be done INSIDE an almost finished house, so
dust would be a big problem. I think a 6" random orbital sander would be
the best choice and am considering the Festool RO150 and the Bosch 1250
DEVS.

Two (2) things JUMP out at me.

"Lots of sanding" and a "6" sander".

Based on my experience building a boat, they are simply incompatable"

I beat the crap out of a Bosch 3727, it's a great sander, but IMHO, much to
small for a big job unless you have a crew and multiple sanders.

Take a look at 8" units, the provide (64/36) 1.77 times the sanding area.

Have fun

Lew

Hi Tony,

I've used the Bosch 1250 DEVS extensively and I've been very pleased with its
performance. I've not used the Festool but in comparing features as found on
the internet you'll see that the Bosch (6.5 amps) is rated at slightly more
power than the Festool (6.0 amps). It's only marginally heavier (.03 lbs) but
that shouldn't even be noticeable. The Bosch is rugged and powerful with a
"soft-start" system that reduces fatigue from torque at start-up. "Constant
Response" circuitry maintains power under varying loads. I don't use a vacuum
with my sanders but I found this image of the Bosch sander married to a Fein
vac:

http://www.federatedtool.com/david/i...efeinbosch.jpg

The Bosch sander is considerably less expensive than the Festool (almost 1/2
the cost) and the savings will purchase a lot of sanding disks.

I have quite a few Bosch power tools (11) and I've never had any durability
or performance issues with any of them.

That's my 2 cents.

Cheers.

Michael

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On Mar 2, 3:35*pm, "Tony Jester" wrote:
Hi.
I have A LOT of sanding to do, including the entire timberframe of my house,
plus hundreds of square feet of 1X4 T&G fir we're using on an inside wall.
All this sanding is going to be done INSIDE an almost finished house, so
dust would be a big problem. *I think a 6" random orbital sander would be
the best choice and am considering the Festool RO150 and the Bosch 1250
DEVS. *I'm sure they both do a go job of sanding, but is one better in terms
of ease of use? *If one was even slightly less tiring to use, I'd go for
that considering how many hours I'm going to be spending using it.

My other dilema is the dust extractor. *Festool CT Mini, CT Midi, CT 22 vs.
Fein Turbo II. *I like the outward design of the Festool models, but the
Fine _seems_ like the winner based on noise. *72 db vs. 57.8 db is a big
difference. *Has anyone heard them both? *Is there really that much
difference between them?

I would sincerely appreciate any help from those who have experience with
the different models. *Thanks!

-Tony-

I have invested in both Fein and Festool. Fein makes an 8" sander
which is in a class by itself. Lightweight, aggressive and reliable.
It does one job for me; on-site solid surface seams when my big sander
can't get under the upper cabinets.

My main sanders, aside from my 15"/4 pad sander are now exclusively
Festool.
The vacs are now Fein with a CT 22 Festool in back-up.
The Fein vacs have massive capacity and keep sucking even when the
bags are almost full. The bags (at least here in Canada) are cheaper
too.
The Feins also can be used as wet vacs.... and quieter too.

So there you have it. Festool Rotex sanders and Fein suckers.

But that's just lil' ol' me.

r

On Mar 2, 9:00 pm, Robatoy wrote:

The Feins also can be used as wet vacs.... and quieter too.

Festool vacuums are also wet vac capable.

R

On Mar 2, 9:49*pm, RicodJour wrote:
On Mar 2, 9:00 pm, Robatoy wrote:



The Feins also can be used as wet vacs.... and quieter too.

Festool vacuums are also wet vac capable.

R

Right you are. That's why you have a bigger 'r' than I do :-)

On Sun, 02 Mar 2008 20:35:44 GMT, "Tony Jester"
wrote:

My other dilema is the dust extractor. Festool CT Mini, CT Midi, CT 22 vs.
Fein Turbo II. I like the outward design of the Festool models, but the
Fine _seems_ like the winner based on noise. 72 db vs. 57.8 db is a big
difference. Has anyone heard them both? Is there really that much
difference between them?

You can get cheap third party HEPA filters that fit the Fein, I don't
know about the Festool. You'll need an adapter between the Fein and
Festool sanders.


-Leuf

On Mar 2, 10:20*pm, Leuf wrote:
On Sun, 02 Mar 2008 20:35:44 GMT, "Tony Jester"
wrote:

My other dilema is the dust extractor. *Festool CT Mini, CT Midi, CT 22 vs.
Fein Turbo II. *I like the outward design of the Festool models, but the
Fine _seems_ like the winner based on noise. *72 db vs. 57.8 db is a big
difference. *Has anyone heard them both? *Is there really that much
difference between them?

You can get cheap third party HEPA filters that fit the Fein, I don't
know about the Festool. *You'll need an adapter between the Fein and
Festool sanders.

-Leuf

Yes. I made my own adaptors. You cut back the rubber adaptors that
Fein sells.

Michael,

Where does one get that hose? The one in the picture doesn't look like the
one that seems to come with the Fein vac. Thanks.

-Tony-


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Hi Tony,

I've used the Bosch 1250 DEVS extensively and I've been very pleased with
its
performance. I've not used the Festool but in comparing features as found
on
the internet you'll see that the Bosch (6.5 amps) is rated at slightly
more
power than the Festool (6.0 amps). It's only marginally heavier (.03 lbs)
but
that shouldn't even be noticeable. The Bosch is rugged and powerful with a
"soft-start" system that reduces fatigue from torque at start-up.
"Constant
Response" circuitry maintains power under varying loads. I don't use a
vacuum
with my sanders but I found this image of the Bosch sander married to a
Fein
vac:

http://www.federatedtool.com/david/i...efeinbosch.jpg

The Bosch sander is considerably less expensive than the Festool (almost
1/2
the cost) and the savings will purchase a lot of sanding disks.

I have quite a few Bosch power tools (11) and I've never had any
durability
or performance issues with any of them.

That's my 2 cents.

Cheers.

Michael

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"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message
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I beat the crap out of a Bosch 3727, it's a great sander, but IMHO, much
to
small for a big job unless you have a crew and multiple sanders.

Take a look at 8" units, the provide (64/36) 1.77 times the sanding area.

Have fun

Lew

I'm not sure how much fun you can have sanding :-) but I'll take a look at
the 8" models, thanks.

On Mar 3, 11:32*am, "Tony Jester" wrote:
Michael,

Where does one get that hose? *The one in the picture doesn't look like the
one that seems to come with the Fein vac. *Thanks.

-Tony-

"toolman946 via CraftKB.com" u40139@uwe wrote in messagenews:80942bf829fd2@uwe...

Hi Tony,

I've used the Bosch 1250 DEVS extensively and I've been very pleased with
its
performance. I've not used the Festool but in comparing features as found
on
the internet you'll see that the Bosch (6.5 amps) is rated at slightly
more
power than the Festool (6.0 amps). It's only marginally heavier (.03 lbs)
but
that shouldn't even be noticeable. The Bosch is rugged and powerful with a
"soft-start" system that reduces fatigue from torque at start-up.
"Constant
Response" circuitry maintains power under varying loads. I don't use a
vacuum
with my sanders but I found this image of the Bosch sander married to a
Fein
vac:

http://www.federatedtool.com/david/i...efeinbosch.jpg

The Bosch sander is considerably less expensive than the Festool (almost
1/2
the cost) and the savings will purchase a lot of sanding disks.

I have quite a few Bosch power tools (11) and I've never had any
durability
or performance issues with any of them.

That's my 2 cents.

Cheers.

Michael

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That is a Fein hose.

"Robatoy" wrote in message
...

Yes. I made my own adaptors. You cut back the rubber adaptors that
Fein sells.

What about the hose? Where do you get that?

-Tony-

"Robatoy" wrote in message
...

That is a Fein hose.

Thanks, I missed it on their website.