I teach wood shop and the students don't seem to take accidents
seriously. Does anyone have a list of different short stories that I
could share with them, to help them realise that accidents do and can
happen if they are not careful. Or if something has happened to you
please let me know. Thanks

"k" wrote in message
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I teach wood shop and the students don't seem to take accidents
seriously. Does anyone have a list of different short stories that I
could share with them, to help them realise that accidents do and can
happen if they are not careful. Or if something has happened to you
please let me know. Thanks


I remember my shop teacher from junior high would drop a piece of wood onto
the blade of a running table saw to demonstrate what kickback could be like.

On Oct 26, 8:14 am, k wrote:
I teach wood shop and the students don't seem to take accidents
seriously. Does anyone have a list of different short stories that I
could share with them, to help them realise that accidents do and can
happen if they are not careful. Or if something has happened to you
please let me know. Thanks

I remember back in high school, we had an 8-fingered shop teacher, he
served as a living example.

Jerry

My family has done wood working for years and generations. One summer
evening (I was about 20 years old) I was in a hurry to finish up some cuts
of oak for a coffee table. While cutting several lengths of 2 1/2" wide oak
I put my hand between the blade and fence (Note your middle finger sticks
out when pushing down like this) when the blade kicked my middle finger went
across the blade. Enough said.

Two weeks later my cousin was holding a joint on plywood together while
cutting the plywood with a skillsaw the blade bound up and kicked back
removing his thumb.

Two weeks later my grandfather ran his thumb through the table saw.


I am now "SUPER" safe. The blood spots are still on the light above the
table saw. When people ask I tell them... Safety fist speed later...

When I was around 16 I had my uncle tell me about someone "karate chopping"
him in the back of the neck while he working on the table saw, he turned
around but didn't see anyone. When he went inside for tea his wife noticed
small holes down the middle of his shirt. Turns out the blade grabbed his
shirt and gave it a very fast and tight pull and then release. When it
happened to me a few years later I knew what he was talking about..

If you play with the bull your going to get the horns sooner or later..


All of us have had "CLOSE" calls that may not be the memorable because they
didn't "REALLY" Happen.





"k" wrote in message
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I teach wood shop and the students don't seem to take accidents
seriously. Does anyone have a list of different short stories that I
could share with them, to help them realise that accidents do and can
happen if they are not careful. Or if something has happened to you
please let me know. Thanks

In article . com, k wrote:
I teach wood shop and the students don't seem to take accidents
seriously. Does anyone have a list of different short stories that I
could share with them, to help them realise that accidents do and can
happen if they are not careful. Or if something has happened to you
please let me know. Thanks

http://www.woodworking2.org/AccidentSurvey/search.htm

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

Doug Miller wrote:
In article . com, k wrote:
I teach wood shop and the students don't seem to take accidents
seriously. Does anyone have a list of different short stories that I
could share with them, to help them realise that accidents do and can
happen if they are not careful. Or if something has happened to you
please let me know. Thanks

http://www.woodworking2.org/AccidentSurvey/search.htm

tell them the guards fitted are there to stop them losing their fingers
,have you ever seen a stumpy pick his nose???

On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 08:14:55 -0700, k
wrote:

I teach wood shop and the students don't seem to take accidents
seriously. Does anyone have a list of different short stories that I
could share with them, to help them realise that accidents do and can
happen if they are not careful. Or if something has happened to you
please let me know. Thanks

Of course not, they're kids, they think they're invulnerable.

k wrote:
I teach wood shop and the students don't seem to take accidents
seriously. Does anyone have a list of different short stories that I
could share with them, to help them realise that accidents do and can
happen if they are not careful. Or if something has happened to you
please let me know. Thanks

There are endless stories I'm sure, and your kids won't pay any attention
to them. The only real answer is to be a safety-nazi. If they don't behave,
toss 'em out. They'll start to behave, not because they caref about safety
necessarily, but because they don't want to be tossed out of class.

k wrote:
I teach wood shop and the students don't seem to take accidents
seriously. Does anyone have a list of different short stories that
I could share with them, to help them realise that accidents do and
can happen if they are not careful. Or if something has happened
to you please let me know. Thanks

I once had a rather nasty one a few years ago. I don't much like to
talk about it but since it is "for the kids", OK. The squeamish among
you might want to skip to the next post.

I was ripping up some boards for a project and had almost finished
when my wife told me it was almost time to go. GADZOOKS! I had
completely forgotten that we had been invited to a dinner party.
Quick shower, freshly pressed suit and off we went.

It was a nice but not late party and we arrived back home about 10
o'clock. I wasn't sleepy and decided to finish my ripping job -
wouldn't take more than ten minutes.

I've always been safety conscious (I don't like pain and I'm not real
fond of blood) so I took off my jacket, rolled up my sleeves and
repaired to the shop. There I was, feeding through a nice piece of
white oak, when all of a sudden that freakin' buzz saw grabbed my tie
and jerked me down to the blade like a lusty wench in heat grabbing
her lover. I don't quite understand what happened as the depth of cut
of the saw is only 3" but that sucker took my head clean off! Well,
not really "clean" as I'm sure some flesh was flung about and there
must have been a lake of blood.

One thing sure, I learned a lesson. And that lesson is...always wear
a tie tack when using a saw.


--

dadiOH
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dadiOH took a can of maroon spray paint on October 26, 2007 06:44 pm and
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k wrote:
I teach wood shop and the students don't seem to take accidents
seriously. Does anyone have a list of different short stories that
I could share with them, to help them realise that accidents do and
can happen if they are not careful. Or if something has happened
to you please let me know. Thanks

I once had a rather nasty one a few years ago. I don't much like to
talk about it but since it is "for the kids", OK. The squeamish among
you might want to skip to the next post.

I was ripping up some boards for a project and had almost finished
when my wife told me it was almost time to go. GADZOOKS! I had
completely forgotten that we had been invited to a dinner party.
Quick shower, freshly pressed suit and off we went.

It was a nice but not late party and we arrived back home about 10
o'clock. I wasn't sleepy and decided to finish my ripping job -
wouldn't take more than ten minutes.

I've always been safety conscious (I don't like pain and I'm not real
fond of blood) so I took off my jacket, rolled up my sleeves and
repaired to the shop. There I was, feeding through a nice piece of
white oak, when all of a sudden that freakin' buzz saw grabbed my tie
and jerked me down to the blade like a lusty wench in heat grabbing
her lover. I don't quite understand what happened as the depth of cut
of the saw is only 3" but that sucker took my head clean off! Well,
not really "clean" as I'm sure some flesh was flung about and there
must have been a lake of blood.

One thing sure, I learned a lesson. And that lesson is...always wear
a tie tack when using a saw.

Guess that was the Trick, where is the Treat?
Halloween season and all.
;-)
--
Lits Slut #9
Life would be so much easier if we could just look at the source code.

"k" wrote in message
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I teach wood shop and the students don't seem to take accidents
seriously. Does anyone have a list of different short stories that I
could share with them, to help them realise that accidents do and can
happen if they are not careful. Or if something has happened to you
please let me know. Thanks


My shop teacher had a picture of someone who *used to have* a lot of long
hair (this was in the 70's) sitting between the drill press and the lathes.
Like they say, a picture is worth a thousand words. That picture alone still
serves for me as a good reminder for me of what can go wrong when using
spinning tools improperly. I can think of nothing you can teach your
students that will be more valuable to them in woodworking than safety.

-Bill

k wrote:
I teach wood shop and the students don't seem to take accidents
seriously. Does anyone have a list of different short stories that I
could share with them, to help them realise that accidents do and can
happen if they are not careful. Or if something has happened to you
please let me know. Thanks


I disagree with the post that says "kids
will be kids and nothing will get
through to them". I do agree that a
picture or something else that
graphically illustrates what can happen
will have an effect.

My accident wasn't in the shop. I'd
moved a crummy old table saw outside to
cut up kindling. I cut a lot each year,
and after an hour or so, it's about as
exciting as watching grass grow.
Attention wanders, and I was also trying
to speed the process up a bit.

While I was looking the other direction,
my hand moved too close to the blade and
i zinged the end of my thumb. I'm typing
with that thumb now, 18 months later, so
the damage wasn't serious. I won't say
it wasn't permanent however. I still
feel pins and needles in the thumb. I
expect I always will.

It wasn't serious, but man did it hurt.
The pain was so intense I passed out
twice on the way to the ER (wife drove
me). For weeks if I nudged that thumb
against anything, pain shot through my
entire arm.

How can I (or you to your kids) convey
that pain? I don't know. But that's what
gave me my wakeup call and made me much
more aware of what could go wrong.

Years ago in Ontario, the Dept of
Transport used graphic films of actual
road accidents as prerequisites to kids
getting their driver's license. I know
that many of them deferred driving after
seeing the films. Did it make safer
drivers? I never knew.

Good luck. I hope these stories give you
some ideas on how to break through to
them and help you produce craftsmen that
don't make the mistake I and others did.

--
Tanus

This is not really a sig.

http://users.compzone.ca/george/shop/

k wrote:
I teach wood shop and the students don't seem to take accidents
seriously. Does anyone have a list of different short stories that I
could share with them, to help them realise that accidents do and can
happen if they are not careful. Or if something has happened to you
please let me know. Thanks

In my high school shop the planer was a big ol' waist high 24 inch
model sitting next to a pair of double doors so they could be opened
to handle long boards. We were always told not to stand at the end of
a board being fed into the planer or table saw.
One day a short board kicked back from the planer while the door was
closed. The board went through the door (a paneled door) out into the
yard. I can still see that student's white face. We never had to be
told about standing in the throw line again.

--
Gerald Ross
Cochran, GA

There's more than one way to skin a
cat. Get a sander!

That's why I always wear a clip-on tie when woodworking.

"dadiOH" wrote in message
news:S4uUi.35$eD3.16@trnddc03...
k wrote:
I teach wood shop and the students don't seem to take accidents
seriously. Does anyone have a list of different short stories that
I could share with them, to help them realise that accidents do and
can happen if they are not careful. Or if something has happened
to you please let me know. Thanks

I once had a rather nasty one a few years ago. I don't much like to
talk about it but since it is "for the kids", OK. The squeamish among
you might want to skip to the next post.

I was ripping up some boards for a project and had almost finished
when my wife told me it was almost time to go. GADZOOKS! I had
completely forgotten that we had been invited to a dinner party.
Quick shower, freshly pressed suit and off we went.

It was a nice but not late party and we arrived back home about 10
o'clock. I wasn't sleepy and decided to finish my ripping job -
wouldn't take more than ten minutes.

I've always been safety conscious (I don't like pain and I'm not real
fond of blood) so I took off my jacket, rolled up my sleeves and
repaired to the shop. There I was, feeding through a nice piece of
white oak, when all of a sudden that freakin' buzz saw grabbed my tie
and jerked me down to the blade like a lusty wench in heat grabbing
her lover. I don't quite understand what happened as the depth of cut
of the saw is only 3" but that sucker took my head clean off! Well,
not really "clean" as I'm sure some flesh was flung about and there
must have been a lake of blood.

One thing sure, I learned a lesson. And that lesson is...always wear
a tie tack when using a saw.


--

dadiOH
____________________________

dadiOH's dandies v3.06...
...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico

"k" wrote in message
ups.com...
I teach wood shop and the students don't seem to take accidents
seriously. Does anyone have a list of different short stories that I
could share with them, to help them realise that accidents do and can
happen if they are not careful. Or if something has happened to you
please let me know. Thanks


If you have a radial arm saw in the shop, turn it into a rip position, take
a 20 - 40 page suppliers catalog, toss it into the spinning blade from the
direction opposite to what you would normally use. Shreds and throws the
pages nicely. To be preceeded with a safety lesson on saws.

Rick

On Oct 26, 8:14 am, k wrote:

I teach wood shop and the students don't seem to take accidents
seriously. Does anyone have a list of different short stories that I
could share with them, to help them realise that accidents do and can
happen if they are not careful. Or if something has happened to you
please let me know. Thanks


A friend of mine, was killed while we were in the 8th grade. He started
a lathe on high speed while there was a large blank attached to a face
plate. The screws holding the block sheared. The blank went through
the window directly behind the lathe. The window was covered with a
steel mesh security grid. When the block hit the mesh it broke in half,
bounced back and impaled him in the forehead. He was killed instantly.

--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA

k wrote:
I teach wood shop and the students don't seem to take accidents
seriously. Does anyone have a list of different short stories that I
could share with them, to help them realise that accidents do and can
happen if they are not careful. Or if something has happened to you
please let me know. Thanks

Several years ago my 14 year old son came home early from school, visibly
shaken, with blood all over the back of his shirt. One of his woodshop
classmates had severed all the fingers, including his thumb, ripping a board on
the table saw.
My son said that the boy had set the 12" blade much too high (contrary to
instruction) for the thickness of the wood. There was no blade guard in place.
His thumb slipped off the end of the workpiece while pushing it through the
blade and passed through the saw.
My son also said that the boy's fingers weren't immediately severed until he had
shaken his hand in reaction, the fingers bouncing across the floor. (You can't
get much more graphic than that.)
Luckily, the fingers were reattached at our local hospital, and the kid regained
about 85% of the use of his hand eventually, the thumb taking almost 10 months
to "rehabilitate".
An insurance adjuster/investigator came to our house to interview my son shortly
after the accident in response to a lawsuit that the kid's parents were filing
against the school. The school, in turn, filed a suit against the saw
manufacturer for not providing a suitable guard for the machine.
I do not know the results of the suits so I can't comment on that other than
to say that my son never came near a piece of woodworking machinery again.

On Oct 28, 6:21 am, JKevorkian wrote:

An insurance adjuster/investigator came to our house to interview my son shortly
after the accident in response to a lawsuit that the kid's parents were filing
against the school. The school, in turn, filed a suit against the saw
manufacturer for not providing a suitable guard for the machine.

How much did the local taxpayers pay for the kid's stupidity? Would
have been cheaper if he got killed instead of maimed.

"JKevorkian" wrote in message
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k wrote:
I teach wood shop and the students don't seem to take accidents
seriously. Does anyone have a list of different short stories that I
could share with them, to help them realise that accidents do and can
happen if they are not careful. Or if something has happened to you
please let me know. Thanks


As a new woodworker (who doesn't own a table saw yet), I just want to say
thanks to most of the folks who have contributed to this thread. I have
learned something from at least two of the stories. For instance, it
hadn't occurred to me that having one's hand on the work behind the blade
(say, between the fence and the blade) could get one in trouble.
Thanks! -Bill

On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 17:23:30 -0400, "Bill"
wrote:

For instance, it
hadn't occurred to me that having one's hand on the work behind the blade
(say, between the fence and the blade) could get one in trouble.

Maybe, maybe not...

The keys?

Think through a cut. Know where both hands are going before you turn
the machine on. If in doubt, rethink the operation.

Fear of a machine gets people hurt. Respect of a machine keeps
people safe. Know the difference to be safe.

Work safe!

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** http://www.bburke.com/woodworking.html **
---------------------------------------------

Ferd Farkel wrote:
On Oct 28, 6:21 am, JKevorkian wrote:

An insurance adjuster/investigator came to our house to interview my son shortly
after the accident in response to a lawsuit that the kid's parents were filing
against the school. The school, in turn, filed a suit against the saw
manufacturer for not providing a suitable guard for the machine.

How much did the local taxpayers pay for the kid's stupidity? Would
have been cheaper if he got killed instead of maimed.



I don't see that as helpful. A 14 year
old kid who lost most of his hand
suffers from ignorance perhaps, but I
doubt that he was stupid. From the OP on
the fingers being lost, the kid ignored
the blade height instructions, but it's
not clear if he removed the guard
against shop rules.

Regardless, it's a 14 year old kid. The
age of rebelliousness and
invulnerability. If shop teachers don't
know about that age, they shouldn't be
teaching. The onus is on the teacher to
teach - safety, procedures, and
consequences.

And after the kids are taught that, if
they can't accept what rules come out of
the procedures, it's up to a shop
teacher to get that kid out of his shop.

I see that as much more of a
school/teacher responsibility than that
of the kid. In essence, the kid had the
accident because either the school shop
had no rules, or the teacher didn't
enforce them.

--
Tanus

This is not really a sig.

http://users.compzone.ca/george/shop/

Thanks for all the stories. I read them all and categorized them by
machine. I printed them out and have a full binder of lots and lots
of stories now.

The site http://www.woodworking2.org/AccidentSurvey/search.htm was
excellent too. It gave me hundreds of pages of stories.

I hope everyone learns that all tools are dangerous if not used with
respect and care. I continue to add new stories to my binder when I
recieve them.

Thanks,

Kieran

For table saws too there is a site http://www.sawstop.com/
SteveA let me know of it.

It's an amazing product, looks like it would protect your fingers if
you accidentally came in contact with the blade.

"k" wrote

Thanks for all the stories. I read them all and categorized them by
machine. I printed them out and have a full binder of lots and lots
of stories now.

On my web site is a list that Kieran might like to add to the others.

From the menu, please select Circular Sawbench Accidents.

Apologies for the erratic formatting.

Jeff

--
Jeff Gorman, West Yorkshire, UK
email : Username is amgron
ISP is clara.co.uk
www.amgron.clara.net

"HotRdd" wrote in message
...

I am now "SUPER" safe. The blood spots are still on the light above the
table saw. When people ask I tell them... Safety fist speed later...


Are you sure that you don't tell them "Safety first speed later?"

Sorry, I couldn't help myself.

On Oct 26, 10:14 am, k wrote:
I teach wood shop and the students don't seem to take accidents
seriously. Does anyone have a list of different short stories that I
could share with them, to help them realise that accidents do and can
happen if they are not careful. Or if something has happened to you
please let me know. Thanks

Where do you teach Wood Shop?
I, also am a Wood Shop Teacher in TX, although I did start teaching in
CO

On Oct 26, 11:14 am, k wrote:
I teach wood shop and the students don't seem to take accidents
seriously. Does anyone have a list of different short stories that I
could share with them, to help them realise that accidents do and can
happen if they are not careful. Or if something has happened to you
please let me know. Thanks

Another kid in my shop class was working on the lathe and his long
sleeve sweater got caught. Lucky for him the sweater was ripped
completely off his body and all he got were brush burns from the
fabric. That sweater hung over the doorway for the rest of the school
year. Happened so fast nobody could even think about hitting the red
button.

On Oct 28, 7:47 pm, Tanus wrote:
Ferd Farkel wrote:
On Oct 28, 6:21 am, JKevorkian wrote:

An insurance adjuster/investigator came to our house to interview my son shortly
after the accident in response to a lawsuit that the kid's parents were filing
against the school. The school, in turn, filed a suit against the saw
manufacturer for not providing a suitable guard for the machine.

How much did the local taxpayers pay for the kid's stupidity? Would
have been cheaper if he got killed instead of maimed.

I don't see that as helpful. A 14 year
old kid who lost most of his hand
suffers from ignorance perhaps, but I
doubt that he was stupid. From the OP on
the fingers being lost, the kid ignored
the blade height instructions, but it's
not clear if he removed the guard
against shop rules.

Regardless, it's a 14 year old kid. The
age of rebelliousness and
invulnerability. If shop teachers don't
know about that age, they shouldn't be
teaching. The onus is on the teacher to
teach - safety, procedures, and
consequences.

And after the kids are taught that, if
they can't accept what rules come out of
the procedures, it's up to a shop
teacher to get that kid out of his shop.

I see that as much more of a
school/teacher responsibility than that
of the kid. In essence, the kid had the
accident because either the school shop
had no rules, or the teacher didn't
enforce them.

Sticking your hand where it'll get shredded
by big sharp spinning metal things is more
than ignorance.

"RayV" wrote in message
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On Oct 26, 11:14 am, k wrote:
I teach wood shop and the students don't seem to take accidents
seriously. Does anyone have a list of different short stories that I
could share with them, to help them realise that accidents do and can
happen if they are not careful. Or if something has happened to you
please let me know. Thanks

Another kid in my shop class was working on the lathe and his long
sleeve sweater got caught. Lucky for him the sweater was ripped
completely off his body and all he got were brush burns from the
fabric. That sweater hung over the doorway for the rest of the school
year. Happened so fast nobody could even think about hitting the red
button.


Had somebody immediately hit the red button, it would probably have been too
late because the intertia of the motor would have kept it turning for
several revs, though with less power.

I believe that the safest motors are those into which a current is injected
to stop the machine more or less instantaneously.

Red buttons are useful if things are flying off a machine, or it is on fire!

Jeff

--
Jeff Gorman, West Yorkshire, UK
email : Username is amgron
ISP is clara.co.uk
www.amgron.clara.net