Looking to purchase a new circular saw (my cheap Skil just aint cuttin
it anymore, want to relegate it to concrete/masonry only).

Im not a pro, just a DIY-er. I was looking at a left blade Milwaukee
because Ive heard its a good deal for value, performance, weight,
etc. I played with a Bosch 1677MD at Lowes today, and Im rethinking
my Milwaukee decision. Granted it is heavier, but with the second
handle it seemed a lot easier to lug around, line up, etc.

So I guess Im asking if there are any non-pros out there that felt a
heavier worm drive worked out better than a sidewinder. I was
thinking the sidewinder as more of a "multi purpose" saw, and the worm
drive as more of a framing/construction saw, but Im not so sure after
holding one vs a sidewinder. I do some panel cutting for projects,
but mostly it would be used for decking, 2x4s here and there, etc
(i.e. Im not building a house or an addition ).

Thanks in advance.

-Chris

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Looking to purchase a new circular saw (my cheap Skil just aint cuttin
it anymore, want to relegate it to concrete/masonry only).

Im not a pro, just a DIY-er. I was looking at a left blade Milwaukee
because Ive heard its a good deal for value, performance, weight,
etc. I played with a Bosch 1677MD at Lowes today, and Im rethinking
my Milwaukee decision. Granted it is heavier, but with the second
handle it seemed a lot easier to lug around, line up, etc.

So I guess Im asking if there are any non-pros out there that felt a
heavier worm drive worked out better than a sidewinder. I was
thinking the sidewinder as more of a "multi purpose" saw, and the worm
drive as more of a framing/construction saw, but Im not so sure after
holding one vs a sidewinder. I do some panel cutting for projects,
but mostly it would be used for decking, 2x4s here and there, etc
(i.e. Im not building a house or an addition ).

Thanks in advance.

-Chris

I have a left blade Milwaukee. I made a cutting guide for it and use it
extensively for cutting panels. Works great.

Max

On Jul 8, 6:55 pm, " wrote:
Looking to purchase a new circular saw (my cheap Skil just aint cuttin
it anymore, want to relegate it to concrete/masonry only).

Im not a pro, just a DIY-er. I was looking at a left blade Milwaukee
because Ive heard its a good deal for value, performance, weight,
etc. I played with a Bosch 1677MD at Lowes today, and Im rethinking
my Milwaukee decision. Granted it is heavier, but with the second
handle it seemed a lot easier to lug around, line up, etc.

So I guess Im asking if there are any non-pros out there that felt a
heavier worm drive worked out better than a sidewinder. I was
thinking the sidewinder as more of a "multi purpose" saw, and the worm
drive as more of a framing/construction saw, but Im not so sure after
holding one vs a sidewinder. I do some panel cutting for projects,
but mostly it would be used for decking, 2x4s here and there, etc
(i.e. Im not building a house or an addition ).

Thanks in advance.

-Chris

Chris,
Before you buy a worm-drive saw, find a way to use one (any make) to
actually cut a board. The start-up torque of a worm drive causes it
to twist in your hand in a way that I find very disconcerting. I used
one for a few cuts and was glad to get back to the familiar feel of a
sidewinder. Maybe it was all because I always used sidewinders
before. I know that worm-drives have many devoted fans, but I think a
do-it-yourselfer will find any of the pro-quality sidewinders to be
quite adequate.

DonkeyHody
"In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, they
are not."

" wrote:

Looking to purchase a new circular saw (my cheap Skil just aint cuttin
it anymore, want to relegate it to concrete/masonry only).

Im not a pro, just a DIY-er. I was looking at a left blade Milwaukee
because Ive heard its a good deal for value, performance, weight,
etc. I played with a Bosch 1677MD at Lowes today, and Im rethinking
my Milwaukee decision. Granted it is heavier, but with the second
handle it seemed a lot easier to lug around, line up, etc.

So I guess Im asking if there are any non-pros out there that felt a
heavier worm drive worked out better than a sidewinder. I was
thinking the sidewinder as more of a "multi purpose" saw, and the worm
drive as more of a framing/construction saw, but Im not so sure after
holding one vs a sidewinder. I do some panel cutting for projects,
but mostly it would be used for decking, 2x4s here and there, etc
(i.e. Im not building a house or an addition ).

Thanks in advance.

-Chris

I think worms are great, the next one I buy will be a worm. but I make
money in construction (trim carpentry mostly) and I find it easier to use
than a side. Another consideration is cost, worms cost more and you have
to decide if the extra cost is worth it. The biggest advantage to a side
as I see it is it is usually shorter and can allow you to work in tighter
spots. And you may not like the worm (some don't), if you don't you'll
regret the extra you spent.

ron

On Jul 8, 7:55 pm, " wrote:
Looking to purchase a new circular saw (my cheap Skil just aint cuttin
it anymore, want to relegate it to concrete/masonry only).

Im not a pro, just a DIY-er. I was looking at a left blade Milwaukee
because Ive heard its a good deal for value, performance, weight,
etc. I played with a Bosch 1677MD at Lowes today, and Im rethinking
my Milwaukee decision. Granted it is heavier, but with the second
handle it seemed a lot easier to lug around, line up, etc.

So I guess Im asking if there are any non-pros out there that felt a
heavier worm drive worked out better than a sidewinder. I was
thinking the sidewinder as more of a "multi purpose" saw, and the worm
drive as more of a framing/construction saw, but Im not so sure after
holding one vs a sidewinder. I do some panel cutting for projects,
but mostly it would be used for decking, 2x4s here and there, etc
(i.e. Im not building a house or an addition ).

Thanks in advance.

-Chris

If you're a righty, and you decide on a sidewinder, I suggest you
stick to your original idea of getting a left-blade saw. I have a PC
left blade and it's real nice to be able to see the cut line without
leaning over the saw.

Chris,
I have used both. It's kind of like comparing a framing hammer
to a plain nail knocker. The worm gear is a much heavier unit. But it's
additional torque can come in handy with green decking woods. With the right
blade it will plough through lumber all day long... However as stated above
it become the boxer at the formal dance. I rely on my PC sidewinder for
about 85% of my cuts. To make you purchase worth while, get the right blade
for the task. Good luck

Paul


wrote in message
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Looking to purchase a new circular saw (my cheap Skil just aint cuttin
it anymore, want to relegate it to concrete/masonry only).

Im not a pro, just a DIY-er. I was looking at a left blade Milwaukee
because Ive heard its a good deal for value, performance, weight,
etc. I played with a Bosch 1677MD at Lowes today, and Im rethinking
my Milwaukee decision. Granted it is heavier, but with the second
handle it seemed a lot easier to lug around, line up, etc.

So I guess Im asking if there are any non-pros out there that felt a
heavier worm drive worked out better than a sidewinder. I was
thinking the sidewinder as more of a "multi purpose" saw, and the worm
drive as more of a framing/construction saw, but Im not so sure after
holding one vs a sidewinder. I do some panel cutting for projects,
but mostly it would be used for decking, 2x4s here and there, etc
(i.e. Im not building a house or an addition ).

Thanks in advance.

-Chris

I have the LH Porter Cable and a RH Makita sidewinder. Both are 15 amp
professional-grade saws.

The LH PC tends to throw more wood chips toward my face, so eye/face
protection is a must, but it is easier to see the cutline. The RH
Makita is arranged such that I can see where the blade is following
the chalk line and it is a very smooth saw.

I cut 3/4" treated plywood regularly with both and they do just fine.
When I use a saw guide or shoot board, the accuracy is incredible.

On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 23:55:35 -0000, "
wrote:

Looking to purchase a new circular saw (my cheap Skil just aint cuttin
it anymore, want to relegate it to concrete/masonry only).

Im not a pro, just a DIY-er. I was looking at a left blade Milwaukee
because Ive heard its a good deal for value, performance, weight,
etc. I played with a Bosch 1677MD at Lowes today, and Im rethinking
my Milwaukee decision. Granted it is heavier, but with the second
handle it seemed a lot easier to lug around, line up, etc.

So I guess Im asking if there are any non-pros out there that felt a
heavier worm drive worked out better than a sidewinder. I was
thinking the sidewinder as more of a "multi purpose" saw, and the worm
drive as more of a framing/construction saw, but Im not so sure after
holding one vs a sidewinder. I do some panel cutting for projects,
but mostly it would be used for decking, 2x4s here and there, etc
(i.e. Im not building a house or an addition ).

Thanks in advance.

-Chris

wrote:
So I guess Im asking if there are any non-pros out there that felt a
heavier worm drive worked out better than a sidewinder. I was
thinking the sidewinder as more of a "multi purpose" saw, and the worm
drive as more of a framing/construction saw, but Im not so sure after
holding one vs a sidewinder. I do some panel cutting for projects,
but mostly it would be used for decking, 2x4s here and there, etc
(i.e. Im not building a house or an addition ).

Thanks in advance.

-Chris

I have the Skill 77 mag saw, I wouldn't claim particularly heavy use but
when the original was stolen I wouldn't consider replacing it with anything
other than the same. I much prefer it for panel/plywood cutting over my
older sidewinder, it runs very strait and true, I think the weight is a
strong advantage. For whacking 2x4's the weight and size might be a slight
disadvantage, doesn't bother me personally but nor do I ever do it all day
long. For what it is worth usually in the fall Costco sells the mag version
$20+ cheaper than the Borg. Rod

On Jul 8, 7:55 pm, " wrote:

"cheap Skil just aint cuttin"

Not sure why you are deciding t trsh the skill saw - you didn't
explain.

I've gotten by (built decks, re-built entire houses, etc) with
whatever"skill" saw I had around.

Never one to send big bucks if there was an alternative. Have an old
Craftsman or two annd one with a nice thick aluminum base plate.

Bought a reconditioned Craftsman worm drive ten years ago - love the
extra power an weight when cutting two by decking and such.

Best advice I've seen here is the "pick the right blade(s)" (and keep
them sharp) for the job at hand. There are some very nice thin kerf
carbide blades out.

Nothing makes a sick Skill happier than a brand new thin kerf carbide
blade.



Looking to purchase a new circular saw (my cheap Skil just aint cuttin
it anymore, want to relegate it to concrete/masonry only).

Im not a pro, just a DIY-er. I was looking at a left blade Milwaukee
because Ive heard its a good deal for value, performance, weight,
etc. I played with a Bosch 1677MD at Lowes today, and Im rethinking
my Milwaukee decision. Granted it is heavier, but with the second
handle it seemed a lot easier to lug around, line up, etc.

So I guess Im asking if there are any non-pros out there that felt a
heavier worm drive worked out better than a sidewinder. I was
thinking the sidewinder as more of a "multi purpose" saw, and the worm
drive as more of a framing/construction saw, but Im not so sure after
holding one vs a sidewinder. I do some panel cutting for projects,
but mostly it would be used for decking, 2x4s here and there, etc
(i.e. Im not building a house or an addition ).

Thanks in advance.

-Chris

wrote:
Looking to purchase a new circular saw (my cheap Skil just aint cuttin
it anymore, want to relegate it to concrete/masonry only).

Don't know why you would take an (apparently) underpowered saw and think
that would be the ticket for an even harder job than lumber, but...

Im not a pro, just a DIY-er. I was looking at a left blade Milwaukee
because Ive heard its a good deal for value, performance, weight,
etc. I played with a Bosch 1677MD at Lowes today, and Im rethinking
my Milwaukee decision. Granted it is heavier, but with the second
handle it seemed a lot easier to lug around, line up, etc.

For DIY'er I'd think lighter -- better unless your panel-cutting is
with the saw set up in one of the panel guides/frames.

IMO the Skil 77 mag is still w/o peer for worm.

There are a number of sidewinders that are capable, pick one that feels
good to you. In particular, make sure the handle is sized so that you
can grip it and reach the switch/lock comfortably. Particularly if your
hands are either somewhat small or very large, many of the designs are
very lacking in ergonomics. I'm on the small end of that...

Since you are upgrading I strongly suggest you tale a look at the Festool
Circle saw. It really produces table saw quality cuts and comes with a
straight edge that requires no clamps to make straight cuts. A bit pricey
but you may end up kicking your self if you do not look at it before buying.

Keep in mind also that while a left blade enables you to see the cutting
line if holding the saw with your right hand, the left blade is intended for
a left handed user. The right hand is intended for a right handed user. If
you can see the blade while sawing you will also see the splinters coming
back at you . The Festool eliminates the need to look at the blade to cut a
precisely placed straight line. Used with a vacuum you can saw inside your
house and not have any clean up.

www.festoolusa.com





wrote in message
oups.com...
Looking to purchase a new circular saw (my cheap Skil just aint cuttin
it anymore, want to relegate it to concrete/masonry only).

Im not a pro, just a DIY-er. I was looking at a left blade Milwaukee
because Ive heard its a good deal for value, performance, weight,
etc. I played with a Bosch 1677MD at Lowes today, and Im rethinking
my Milwaukee decision. Granted it is heavier, but with the second
handle it seemed a lot easier to lug around, line up, etc.

So I guess Im asking if there are any non-pros out there that felt a
heavier worm drive worked out better than a sidewinder. I was
thinking the sidewinder as more of a "multi purpose" saw, and the worm
drive as more of a framing/construction saw, but Im not so sure after
holding one vs a sidewinder. I do some panel cutting for projects,
but mostly it would be used for decking, 2x4s here and there, etc
(i.e. Im not building a house or an addition ).

Thanks in advance.

-Chris

On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 18:07:42 -0700, DonkeyHody
wrote:

On Jul 8, 6:55 pm, " wrote:
Looking to purchase a new circular saw (my cheap Skil just aint cuttin
it anymore, want to relegate it to concrete/masonry only).

Im not a pro, just a DIY-er. I was looking at a left blade Milwaukee
because Ive heard its a good deal for value, performance, weight,
etc. I played with a Bosch 1677MD at Lowes today, and Im rethinking
my Milwaukee decision. Granted it is heavier, but with the second
handle it seemed a lot easier to lug around, line up, etc.

So I guess Im asking if there are any non-pros out there that felt a
heavier worm drive worked out better than a sidewinder. I was
thinking the sidewinder as more of a "multi purpose" saw, and the worm
drive as more of a framing/construction saw, but Im not so sure after
holding one vs a sidewinder. I do some panel cutting for projects,
but mostly it would be used for decking, 2x4s here and there, etc
(i.e. Im not building a house or an addition ).

Thanks in advance.

-Chris

Chris,
Before you buy a worm-drive saw, find a way to use one (any make) to
actually cut a board. The start-up torque of a worm drive causes it
to twist in your hand in a way that I find very disconcerting. I used
one for a few cuts and was glad to get back to the familiar feel of a
sidewinder. Maybe it was all because I always used sidewinders
before. I know that worm-drives have many devoted fans, but I think a
do-it-yourselfer will find any of the pro-quality sidewinders to be
quite adequate.

DonkeyHody
"In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, they
are not."

The only people (as in a defined group) I have seen using a worm drive
were form setters. I was told all their cuts were below waist/downhill
and the weight/power of the saw increased the speed of the cut.

On 10 Jul, 16:47, "Leon" wrote:
Since you are upgrading I strongly suggest you tale a look at the Festool
Circle saw. It really produces table saw quality cuts and comes with a
straight edge that requires no clamps to make straight cuts. A bit pricey
but you may end up kicking your self if you do not look at it before buying.

Keep in mind also that while a left blade enables you to see the cutting
line if holding the saw with your right hand, the left blade is intended for
a left handed user. The right hand is intended for a right handed user. If
you can see the blade while sawing you will also see the splinters coming
back at you . The Festool eliminates the need to look at the blade to cut a
precisely placed straight line. Used with a vacuum you can saw inside your
house and not have any clean up.

www.festoolusa.com

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Looking to purchase a new circular saw (my cheap Skil just aint cuttin
it anymore, want to relegate it to concrete/masonry only).

Im not a pro, just a DIY-er. I was looking at a left blade Milwaukee
because Ive heard its a good deal for value, performance, weight,
etc. I played with a Bosch 1677MD at Lowes today, and Im rethinking
my Milwaukee decision. Granted it is heavier, but with the second
handle it seemed a lot easier to lug around, line up, etc.

So I guess Im asking if there are any non-pros out there that felt a
heavier worm drive worked out better than a sidewinder. I was
thinking the sidewinder as more of a "multi purpose" saw, and the worm
drive as more of a framing/construction saw, but Im not so sure after
holding one vs a sidewinder. I do some panel cutting for projects,
but mostly it would be used for decking, 2x4s here and there, etc
(i.e. Im not building a house or an addition ).

Thanks in advance.

-Chris- Hide quoted text -

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-If you can see the blade while sawing you will also see the
splinters coming back at you .

The LH PC has a dust chute that plugs into the top of the saw so you
can direct the splinters towards your workmate.

"DerbyDad03" wrote in message
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The LH PC has a dust chute that plugs into the top of the saw so you
can direct the splinters towards your workmate.


Yes many saws have this feature to divert the majority of debris away
however more than a comfortable amount still comes up in your face.