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New planer - advice before I use it?
Just got a Ridgid planer.. pretty basic and looks a bit like the pictures of a
Delta... I've never had or used one before but since I got a real table saw recently, this seemed like the next step... Being too old and lazy to reinvent the wheel, I'd appreciate and tips, warnings, "don't do's", etc. from you in the group that use them. I think a few of you were born using them (-; Ridgid tp1300 13" planer... So far, I've put the stand together, put BIG casters on it, (it goes in the carport on a packed dirt floor), adjusted the infeed/outfeed tables, the cutter head and such, as called for in the manual... I haven't turned it on yet... waiting for advice and a project the requires it.... I sure wish I had it last month when I made the wife 3 sets of book shelves! TIA for any suggestions, warnings, DAMHIKT, etc.. mac Please remove splinters before emailing |
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I've never had or used one before but since I got a real table saw
recently, this seemed like the next step... snip TIA for any suggestions, warnings, DAMHIKT, etc.. Never plane to much off of one face at a time. The board will begin to bow in the direction of the face being planed. DAMHIKT! NEVER plane a board that is to short. It can kick throw the board back at you into your fingers that are pushing the board. DAMHIKT! Don't feed your fingers into the planer knives! Learn how to sharpen your own knives. See my web page below: http://www.garagewoodworks.com/jigsfixtures.htm -- Stoutman www.garagewoodworks.com |
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"mac davis" wrote in message TIA for any suggestions, warnings, DAMHIKT, etc.. Dust collector Small bites each pass Be sure there are no nails in the board. Not that I'd ever do that, but I've heard of it happening to others |
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" Just got a Ridgid planer.. pretty basic and looks a bit like the pictures
of a Delta... snip Being too old and lazy to reinvent the wheel, I'd appreciate and tips, warnings, "don't do's", etc. from you in the group that use them. I think a few of you were born using them (-; snip Now wouldn't THAT be a sight??? .....10 pounds, 24" long and he's already building his own crib and changing table. Wonder if he'll use poly of BLO for the finish... TIA for any suggestions, warnings, DAMHIKT, etc.. mac No clue as to if the Ridgid has any "special" tips, but for planers in general... 1) Cut stock a few inches long...there is no such thing as totally snip free planing. 2) If possible, run boards end to end thru the machine..this will go a long way to giving you snipe free planing. 3) Watch the grain direction. If you get little chips that pull out of the face as you plane, flip the board end for end and run it thru that way...sometimes it just moves the chipping to the other direction, but often it'll work. If not, take lighter cuts and lightly mist with plain water before each cut. read again LIGHTLY MIST...you do NOT want a wet board, just a slightly damp surface. 4) When starting the board, slightly lift the out board end until the starting end is under the outfeed roller...then again, lightly lift the end just as it's coming thru. This can help reduce the amount of snipe on the start and end of the board. 5) NEVER try to plane a short board. I never try to plane a board shorter the half again what the book says is the minimum....my delta book says 12" so I never go under 18" long. I go to the drum sander under that. Same thing with the thickness...I never go under 3/8". Am I being a chicken about it? Yes, and I don't care...I've had my share on cuts and bruises over the years from things that were avoidable, I see no reason to open myself up to more now that I've finally gotten a little smarter. Are there other things to know??? Oh god, yes...and I'm sure that there are others out there that'll helpp fill in the blanks. Luck Mike |
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On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 09:20:06 -0700, mac davis
wrote: Just got a Ridgid planer.. pretty basic and looks a bit like the pictures of a Delta... I've never had or used one before but since I got a real table saw recently, this seemed like the next step... Being too old and lazy to reinvent the wheel, I'd appreciate and tips, warnings, "don't do's", etc. from you in the group that use them. I think a few of you were born using them (-; Ridgid tp1300 13" planer... So far, I've put the stand together, put BIG casters on it, (it goes in the carport on a packed dirt floor), adjusted the infeed/outfeed tables, the cutter head and such, as called for in the manual... I haven't turned it on yet... waiting for advice and a project the requires it.... I sure wish I had it last month when I made the wife 3 sets of book shelves! TIA for any suggestions, warnings, DAMHIKT, etc.. mac Please remove splinters before emailing You've gotten good advice, but I'll ditto the short board ban. Tried to "cheat" a short board through once. Bruise hand healed fairly well in about ten days. Frank |
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"mac davis" wrote in message ... TIA for any suggestions, warnings, DAMHIKT, etc.. mac Please remove splinters before emailing "IF" during use you ever loose power to the planer, "turn the planer off" and remove the wood before the power comes back on or before you plug it back in. If the blades comes to a stop against the wood they may not spin when the motor comes back on and the blade drive belt will burn up. DAKMHIKT |
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mac davis wrote:
Just got a Ridgid planer.. pretty basic and looks a bit like the pictures of a Delta... I've never had or used one before but since I got a real table saw recently, this seemed like the next step... Being too old and lazy to reinvent the wheel, I'd appreciate and tips, warnings, "don't do's", etc. from you in the group that use them. I think a few of you were born using them (-; Ridgid tp1300 13" planer... So far, I've put the stand together, put BIG casters on it, (it goes in the carport on a packed dirt floor), adjusted the infeed/outfeed tables, the cutter head and such, as called for in the manual... I haven't turned it on yet... waiting for advice and a project the requires it.... I sure wish I had it last month when I made the wife 3 sets of book shelves! TIA for any suggestions, warnings, DAMHIKT, etc.. mac Please remove splinters before emailing What? The first thing to do is turn it on. - S |
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mac davis wrote:
| Being too old and lazy to reinvent the wheel, I'd appreciate and | tips, warnings, "don't do's", etc. from you in the group that use | them. Bolt the planer to the stand. Lock the casters. Turn the power on... -- Morris Dovey DeSoto Solar DeSoto, Iowa USA http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/ |
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Morris Dovey wrote:
Bolt the planer to the stand. Lock the casters. Turn the power on... Repeating what others have said, take light cuts and start with boards that are longer than are required. SNIPE HAPPENS. Lew |
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On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 12:37:25 -0500, Frank Boettcher
wrote: You've gotten good advice, but I'll ditto the short board ban. Tried to "cheat" a short board through once. Bruise hand healed fairly well in about ten days. Frank The manual says min. 14"... My brother is supposed to be posting a picture for me of a sled that he uses??? mac Please remove splinters before emailing |
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On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 16:43:44 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" wrote:
"mac davis" wrote in message TIA for any suggestions, warnings, DAMHIKT, etc.. Dust collector Small bites each pass Be sure there are no nails in the board. Not that I'd ever do that, but I've heard of it happening to others Thanks, Ed... No DC in this case, (unless it helps to clear chips from inside planer?), the messy tools are outside with a nice desert breeze blowing.. small bites meaning cutting depth, right? (note to self: check battery in stud finder) mac Please remove splinters before emailing |
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On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 11:52:28 -0500, "The Davenport's"
wrote: 1) Cut stock a few inches long...there is no such thing as totally snip free planing. hmm... good idea... the manual says to cut the "depressed ends" off.... sort of makes you change all your plans & drawings if you have to do that! 2) If possible, run boards end to end thru the machine..this will go a long way to giving you snipe free planing. AHA! It says "with the grain" in several places... I sort of figured end to end, but nice to be sure... 3) Watch the grain direction. If you get little chips that pull out of the face as you plane, flip the board end for end and run it thru that way...sometimes it just moves the chipping to the other direction, but often it'll work. If not, take lighter cuts and lightly mist with plain water before each cut. read again LIGHTLY MIST...you do NOT want a wet board, just a slightly damp surface. Cool... might also fit in with "with the grain".. 4) When starting the board, slightly lift the out board end until the starting end is under the outfeed roller...then again, lightly lift the end just as it's coming thru. This can help reduce the amount of snipe on the start and end of the board. I can see that I'll be trying that with some scraps... and from the SIDE... *g* thanks, Mike.. mac Please remove splinters before emailing |
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On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 12:50:30 -0500, "Leon"
wrote: "mac davis" wrote in message .. . TIA for any suggestions, warnings, DAMHIKT, etc.. mac Please remove splinters before emailing "IF" during use you ever loose power to the planer, "turn the planer off" and remove the wood before the power comes back on or before you plug it back in. If the blades comes to a stop against the wood they may not spin when the motor comes back on and the blade drive belt will burn up. DAKMHIKT Damn good point, Leon... I hadn't even thought that it would go back on with the power... Last night, the power went off 3 times within a few hours... usually for maybe a min. or so, but enough to really think about your tip! mac Please remove splinters before emailing |
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On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 14:26:37 -0500, "Morris Dovey" wrote:
mac davis wrote: | Being too old and lazy to reinvent the wheel, I'd appreciate and | tips, warnings, "don't do's", etc. from you in the group that use | them. Bolt the planer to the stand. Lock the casters. Turn the power on... well, 2 outta 3 aren't bad... lol I guess I should at least make sure it runs.. mac Please remove splinters before emailing |
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1) Cut stock a few inches long...there is no such thing as totally snip
free planing. hmm... good idea... the manual says to cut the "depressed ends" off.... sort of makes you change all your plans & drawings if you have to do that! Only a little, as you shouldn't be using the planer much except at the very begining of a project. An we're only talking about 1 1/2 to 2". What I'll do when I've got a large project strarting up is joint the plane all my stock and I"ll have 2 extra pieces of stock 18-24 inches long and those are the first and last pieces thru the planer before I change the cut depth. Mark them or use a different material so that you know which is what. One thing to bear in mind that I missed before and I don't think anyone caught...you didn't mention a jointer, so that should be your next purchase, I think. A planer will not flatten nor straighten lumber...a jointer will. Mike |
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Larry Kraus wrote in
: mac davis wrote: No DC in this case, (unless it helps to clear chips from inside planer?), the messy tools are outside with a nice desert breeze blowing.. Without DC, the rollers on some planers can press the shavings into the wood, causing dents. Also, planers create very large amounts of shavings, so you may find a snow shovel useful... Without a DC, at least use a shop vac, preferably with a drop box, to pull out the shavings. And there will be a LOT of shavings on most wood. We did a bunch of redwood for one of my son's projects last month, and got perhaps 5 garbage bags of shavings, which now mulch under the roses in the back yard. These are supposed to be replaceable, two-sided blades, and they are. But I've taken to honing them with 600 grit wet/dry, wrapped around a block of maple, and reinstalling them. Works pretty well. I've been cycling 3 sets of blades on mine for 6 or 7 years, working mostly in oak and maple. It's a good machine, but it will have a problem if it runs into a temporarily stupid operator. Then you have to wait three days for the $3 part to get FedExed in from Ridgid Central. Could be more of a problem if you've run away to rural Mexico... ;-) I've used the similar Delta a lot, and certainly wouldn't trade my Ridgid for one. Money well spent. Enjoy yours, Mac! Patriarch |
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mac davis wrote:
Just got a Ridgid planer.. pretty basic and looks a bit like the pictures of a Delta... Be prepared to deal with a LOT of shavings. The best thing I did for my Delta was get a plastic fitting that allowed me to channel the shavings into my dust collector. What used to be a huge PITA is no longer a big deal at all. -- Mortimer Schnerd, RN mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com |
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Sun, Jun 24, 2007, 4:44am mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com
(Mortimer*Schnerd,*RN) doth sayeth: Be prepared to deal with a LOT of shavings. snip That's a good thing. Cushions the floor. At one point after I first got my wood lathe my floor got almost knee deep in shavings. Didn't actually make anything doing that, just practice, but loads of fun. JOAT If a man does his best, what else is there? - General George S. Patton |
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Stoutman .@. wrote:
NEVER plane a board that is to short. It can kick throw the board back at you into your fingers that are pushing the board. DAMHIKT! You probably all ready know this one, but for the original poster, this might be new . . . Typically, you don't want to put anything through the planer that's less than about 12". If you do need to plane something that is less than 12", an easy and safe way to do it is to glue on some side runners that are 12" long. If you've got a piece that's say 6" long and then add two 12" pieces on each of the edges, it might look something like this bit of ASCII art: +-+ +-+ | | | | | | | | | | | | | |+------+| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |+------+| | | | | | | | | | | | | | +-+ +-+ After getting the piece to the desired thickness, just cut off the side runners. -- If you want to reply via email, change the obvious words to numbers and remove ".invalid". |
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On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 23:44:32 GMT, Larry Kraus wrote:
mac davis wrote: No DC in this case, (unless it helps to clear chips from inside planer?), the messy tools are outside with a nice desert breeze blowing.. Without DC, the rollers on some planers can press the shavings into the wood, causing dents. Also, planers create very large amounts of shavings, so you may find a snow shovel useful... Thanks.. sort of why I asked, because the planer doesn't have much of a manual, but suggested something like that to keep rollers clean.. Seemed like they were saying that it helps the rollers either during or after use, couldn't really be sure.. Closest Home Depot is over 3 hours away and involves a border crossing that isn't tool friendly, so I want try to prevent as many 'operator errors" as I can... mac Please remove splinters before emailing |
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On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 21:07:02 -0500, Patriarch
wrote: Without a DC, at least use a shop vac, preferably with a drop box, to pull out the shavings. And there will be a LOT of shavings on most wood. We did a bunch of redwood for one of my son's projects last month, and got perhaps 5 garbage bags of shavings, which now mulch under the roses in the back yard. It sounds like I need to run a DC hose outside... sort of an interesting logistical problem in the world of durawall houses and scorpions.. *g* It's a good machine, but it will have a problem if it runs into a temporarily stupid operator. The exact reason for this thread... IMO, it's better to ask a stupid question then make a mistake because you were too stupid to ask... Then you have to wait three days for the $3 part to get FedExed in from Ridgid Central. Could be more of a problem if you've run away to rural Mexico... ;-) Yep.. unless they send it by mail, which ridgid won't, I have stuff like that sent to someone in the states and then brought or mailed down... I've used the similar Delta a lot, and certainly wouldn't trade my Ridgid for one. Money well spent. It seems like a real nice machine.... I was trying to get the Dewalt with 3 blades on a lot of recommendations here, but the ridgid was rated really high, less bucks and it's a lot easier to get HD stuff here than Delta or Dewalt... (it's a bitch getting jet parts for the lathes) Enjoy yours, Mac! Thanks.. I feel a lot better already and trying to figure out which project for the wife is next.. lol mac Please remove splinters before emailing |
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On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 18:49:18 -0500, "The Davenport's"
wrote: One thing to bear in mind that I missed before and I don't think anyone caught...you didn't mention a jointer, so that should be your next purchase, I think. A planer will not flatten nor straighten lumber...a jointer will. Mike I considered one, Mike, but don't have the budget for one yet... or the room, until I sell or give away the RAS and bench TS... I've made an adjustable "jointing fence" for the TS from ideas ripped off from 2 or 3 wREC'ers web sites...(thanks Morris) I think that will get me by as long as I'm using lumber yard stock.. mac Please remove splinters before emailing |
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On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 04:44:56 -0400, "Mortimer Schnerd, RN"
mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com wrote: mac davis wrote: Just got a Ridgid planer.. pretty basic and looks a bit like the pictures of a Delta... Be prepared to deal with a LOT of shavings. The best thing I did for my Delta was get a plastic fitting that allowed me to channel the shavings into my dust collector. What used to be a huge PITA is no longer a big deal at all. Thanks... this planer comes with a pretty trick setup for DC... has a sort of shroud that fits 4" hose on one end and 2 1/2" on the other, with a reversible cap to plug the one you're not using.. I guess the reason that I wasn't going to use the DC was that everyone refers to "shavings" and I know that a DC on a lathe is useless because it just clogs the hose with shavings... I would hope that the shavings from the planer are shorter/smaller, especially with light cuts.. mac Please remove splinters before emailing |
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"mac davis" wrote in message ... Just got a Ridgid planer.. pretty basic and looks a bit like the pictures of a Delta... I've never had or used one before but since I got a real table saw recently, this seemed like the next step... Being too old and lazy to reinvent the wheel, I'd appreciate and tips, warnings, "don't do's", etc. from you in the group that use them. I think a few of you were born using them (-; Ridgid tp1300 13" planer... So far, I've put the stand together, put BIG casters on it, (it goes in the carport on a packed dirt floor), adjusted the infeed/outfeed tables, the cutter head and such, as called for in the manual... I haven't turned it on yet... waiting for advice and a project the requires it.... I sure wish I had it last month when I made the wife 3 sets of book shelves! TIA for any suggestions, warnings, DAMHIKT, etc.. mac Please remove splinters before emaili I always wear safety glasses (habit while in the shop) and hearing protection. I have prescription safety glasses, with side shields. |
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"mac davis" wrote in message I guess the reason that I wasn't going to use the DC was that everyone refers to "shavings" and I know that a DC on a lathe is useless because it just clogs the hose with shavings... I would hope that the shavings from the planer are shorter/smaller, especially with light cuts.. I made one pass on my planer and the next day I bought a DC. May not be a problem where you are, but it was a potential mess here. |
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mac davis wrote:
It sounds like I need to run a DC hose outside... sort of an interesting logistical problem in the world of durawall houses and scorpions.. *g* I operate my planer outside, no DC necessary; however, a broom, shovel, and a couple of plastic garbage cans are helpful, no, make that mandatory. Lew |
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J T wrote:
| I made a nifty planer sled that clamps the piece in, no gluing | needed. Works like a charm. The planer sled is 100% wood, held | together by glue, 100% wood cam clamps. Can/would you post photos? I've thought about doing this, but never managed to come up with a design I thought would be worth building... -- Morris Dovey DeSoto Solar DeSoto, Iowa USA http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/ |
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"mac davis" wrote in message ... On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 18:49:18 -0500, "The Davenport's" wrote: One thing to bear in mind that I missed before and I don't think anyone caught...you didn't mention a jointer, so that should be your next purchase, I think. A planer will not flatten nor straighten lumber...a jointer will. Mike I considered one, Mike, but don't have the budget for one yet... or the room, until I sell or give away the RAS and bench TS... I've made an adjustable "jointing fence" for the TS from ideas ripped off from 2 or 3 wREC'ers web sites...(thanks Morris) I think that will get me by as long as I'm using lumber yard stock.. mac Please remove splinters before emailin I wouldn't be too quick to sell the RAS, Mac. I find it to be one of my most used saws for cut offs. You can lose the bench top TS, for sure. |
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"mac davis" wrote in message ... On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 04:44:56 -0400, "Mortimer Schnerd, RN" mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com wrote: mac davis wrote: Just got a Ridgid planer.. pretty basic and looks a bit like the pictures of a Delta... Be prepared to deal with a LOT of shavings. The best thing I did for my Delta was get a plastic fitting that allowed me to channel the shavings into my dust collector. What used to be a huge PITA is no longer a big deal at all. Thanks... this planer comes with a pretty trick setup for DC... has a sort of shroud that fits 4" hose on one end and 2 1/2" on the other, with a reversible cap to plug the one you're not using.. I guess the reason that I wasn't going to use the DC was that everyone refers to "shavings" and I know that a DC on a lathe is useless because it just clogs the hose with shavings... I would hope that the shavings from the planer are shorter/smaller, especially with light cuts.. mac Please remove splinters before emailing I have only had 'shaving' issues with pine which produce wider and longer shavings. Hardwoods produce small cuttings and are not an issue. |
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Don't plane boards to remove paint or used wood with grit on it unless
you like to replace blades . Jr http://community.webtv.net/awoodbutcher/THENORTHCOASTPT |
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On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 21:46:16 -0400, "C & E" wrote:
I wouldn't be too quick to sell the RAS, Mac. I find it to be one of my most used saws for cut offs. You can lose the bench top TS, for sure. It just takes up too much room and needs to much attention... I got it a few years ago at a garage sale and fixed it up.... It was probably worth more than the $50 I paid for it, but not much, and the move down here and months of no use (while waiting for electricity) and getting banged around haven't helped it... Looking at redoing the table, cleaning and aligning everything and all the other wish & prayer stuff involved with a RAS, I'd rather have the vacant space in the carport... Funny, most of us say we need a bigger shop... I never thought that a 40' x 15' carport might be a bit small... mac Please remove splinters before emailing |
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On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 12:17:53 -0400, "Edwin Pawlowski" wrote:
"mac davis" wrote in message I guess the reason that I wasn't going to use the DC was that everyone refers to "shavings" and I know that a DC on a lathe is useless because it just clogs the hose with shavings... I would hope that the shavings from the planer are shorter/smaller, especially with light cuts.. I made one pass on my planer and the next day I bought a DC. May not be a problem where you are, but it was a potential mess here. hmm... part of my plan to provide a source of mulch to the desert?? I'll have to work out a way to get a dc hose or pipe through the wall of the shop.. mac Please remove splinters before emailing |
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On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 21:53:42 -0400, "C & E" wrote:
I have only had 'shaving' issues with pine which produce wider and longer shavings. Hardwoods produce small cuttings and are not an issue. Cool... thanks.. I'll be working mostly with pine here, so I'll keep that in mind... mac Please remove splinters before emailing |
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On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 19:02:40 -0400, (J T) wrote:
Sun, Jun 24, 2007, 9:52am (EDT-1) lid (Michael*Faurot) snip If you do need to plane something that is less than 12", an easy and safe way to do it is to glue on some side runners that are 12" long. snip I made a nifty planer sled that clamps the piece in, no gluing needed. Works like a charm. The planer sled is 100% wood, held together by glue, 100% wood cam clamps. great ad, bro... I want one! It sounds like something I'm going to need, since one of the reasons for the planer is getting into laminated or segmented bowls... Got any pictures or such, so I can make one? mac Please remove splinters before emailing |
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New planer - advice before I use it?
In article , mac davis
wrote: TIA for any suggestions, warnings, DAMHIKT, etc.. I bought a Delta benchtop, and let it sit for a while before I used it... Out of warranty by the time I hit a brad in a plank I was planing, and nicked the blades. The hold-down screws wouldn't budge. I had to take it to a repair shop on my time to get them replaced. My advice: Make sure you can change the blades before it's out of warranty. |
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