This is an interesting tool. Same money as the Domino, roughly.
The standard 32 mm spacing is appealing.

http://www.hoffmann-usa.com/htm/pds32/pds32.htm

Add a mitre saw:

http://www.hoffmann-usa.com/htm/mite..._Miter_Saw.htm

and then find out we're doing it all wrong:

http://www.hoffmann-usa.com/htm/keys/intro-keys.htm

Nonetheless, a very interesting company.

"Robatoy" wrote in message
oups.com...
This is an interesting tool. Same money as the Domino, roughly.
The standard 32 mm spacing is appealing.

For a production shop that would be interesting; but for that kind of money
it ought to be more adjustable.

Supposedly the big thing about the Domino is all the end grain it give for
glue.

"Robatoy" wrote in message
oups.com...
This is an interesting tool. Same money as the Domino, roughly.
The standard 32 mm spacing is appealing.

http://www.hoffmann-usa.com/htm/pds32/pds32.htm

Add a mitre saw:

http://www.hoffmann-usa.com/htm/mite..._Miter_Saw.htm

and then find out we're doing it all wrong:

http://www.hoffmann-usa.com/htm/keys/intro-keys.htm

Nonetheless, a very interesting company.


I know of at least two shops who need such a system as they use a lot of
dowels. Maybe I can get them to buy it so I can borrow it. (wishful
thinking, I know)

The system is a little rich for me, as I could never get it approved by the
treasurer, but I can lust after it. There is a big project I am consulting
on that this would be perfect for. I can include it in the proposal. Even
if they don't go for it, I will look good.

Thanks for the info. I will file it and scheme on acquiring something like
this for my own personal use. (The wish list is getting very long)

One potential problem would be the old imperial versus metric thing again. I
am reasonably certain that the shops I know are all using imperial dowels.

This Hoffman company has some great, specialized tools. Way beyond the
needs of the average home shop. But if you were doing certain types of
production work, they would be very useful.

Robatoy wrote:

This is an interesting tool. Same money as the Domino, roughly.
The standard 32 mm spacing is appealing.

http://www.hoffmann-usa.com/htm/pds32/pds32.htm


V e rrrrrrr eee In ter rrrrressss ting ...
but dowels?

You gonna brag to a customer that all your stuff
is put together with dowels? I guess you could
tell them you use "round loose tenon" mortise and
tenon joints, noting that mortise and tenon joinery
is an old tried and true, Traditional means of joinery,
found in the finest of furniture.

On second thought - how many people shopping for
"furniture" at IKEA would give a tinker's dam how
the stuff is put together.

charlie b

On May 1, 2:24 pm, charlieb wrote:
Robatoy wrote:

This is an interesting tool. Same money as the Domino, roughly.
The standard 32 mm spacing is appealing.

http://www.hoffmann-usa.com/htm/pds32/pds32.htm

V e rrrrrrr eee In ter rrrrressss ting ...
but dowels?

You gonna brag to a customer that all your stuff
is put together with dowels? I guess you could
tell them you use "round loose tenon" mortise and
tenon joints, noting that mortise and tenon joinery
is an old tried and true, Traditional means of joinery,
found in the finest of furniture.

I totally agree. the 'floating tenon' has more caché.
Besides, a choice between the Hoffman and the Domino is easy.
The one thing I do like about the Hoffman, is the 32 mm spacing. THAT
can be put to use in many nifty ways.

On second thought - how many people shopping for
"furniture" at IKEA would give a tinker's dam how
the stuff is put together.

IKEA is up-scale from a LOT of **** out there. But it ain't Stickley.

This equipment is almost entirely from Germany and these
guys appear to be nothing but distributors.

Dowels are still "widely" used in the furniture business
due to the cost.

You are also right about what people think about
concerning furniture construction.(They don't)


charlieb wrote:

V e rrrrrrr eee In ter rrrrressss ting ...
but dowels?

You gonna brag to a customer that all your stuff
is put together with dowels? I guess you could
tell them you use "round loose tenon" mortise and
tenon joints, noting that mortise and tenon joinery
is an old tried and true, Traditional means of joinery,
found in the finest of furniture.

On second thought - how many people shopping for
"furniture" at IKEA would give a tinker's dam how
the stuff is put together.

charlie b

"Swingman" wrote in message

Being sneaky and noticing they had just left, I snatched it from the
trash,
brought it into the shop, replaced the broken melamine seat with 1/2"
baltic
birch plywood, beveled the edges to keep splinters out of little bottoms,
and a quick sanding and a couple of quick coats of spray can lacquer
later,
had the chair sitting on their front porch, as good as new, before they
got
back in 30 minutes.

That was downright neighborly of you swingman.

Are you trying to make the rest of us look bad?

On May 2, 1:28 pm, "Swingman" wrote:
"charlieb" wrote in message
On second thought - how many people shopping for
"furniture" at IKEA would give a tinker's dam how
the stuff is put together.

Speaking of Ikea. This past week I saw an Ikea kiddie chair, belonging to
the 3 year old twins next door, sitting on the curb on trash day with the
seat broken out. (I guess Mom figured she's way behind on previous "can you
fix this?" karma and didn't want to ask again, so just threw it away.)

Being sneaky and noticing they had just left, I snatched it from the trash,
brought it into the shop, replaced the broken melamine seat with 1/2" baltic
birch plywood, beveled the edges to keep splinters out of little bottoms,
and a quick sanding and a couple of quick coats of spray can lacquer later,
had the chair sitting on their front porch, as good as new, before they got
back in 30 minutes.

When she knocked on the door a few minutes after that with a "Did you do
this!?", I just grinned, blamed it on the tooth fairy, and told her the next
time the nanny (200lb +) needed a footstool, to use that one. (I guessed
right!)

It's a pretty sturdy chair now, even if it was originally "Ikea", and I
guarantee the next time she makes those chocolate matzo cracker's for
Passover, I'll have a plentiful supply.

Worth thanking Ikea for!


G Good one.

There's a TV show, I don't recall the name.. Junk-Something, and they
pick up an interesting piece of garbage, make something out of it, and
put it back where they found it. A big ol' headboard into a bar? (Only
one I saw a bit of).
Cool concept, which could be funny.
I'm sure somebody here can shed more light on this.

r

"charlieb" wrote in message

On second thought - how many people shopping for
"furniture" at IKEA would give a tinker's dam how
the stuff is put together.

Speaking of Ikea. This past week I saw an Ikea kiddie chair, belonging to
the 3 year old twins next door, sitting on the curb on trash day with the
seat broken out. (I guess Mom figured she's way behind on previous "can you
fix this?" karma and didn't want to ask again, so just threw it away.)

Being sneaky and noticing they had just left, I snatched it from the trash,
brought it into the shop, replaced the broken melamine seat with 1/2" baltic
birch plywood, beveled the edges to keep splinters out of little bottoms,
and a quick sanding and a couple of quick coats of spray can lacquer later,
had the chair sitting on their front porch, as good as new, before they got
back in 30 minutes.

When she knocked on the door a few minutes after that with a "Did you do
this!?", I just grinned, blamed it on the tooth fairy, and told her the next
time the nanny (200lb +) needed a footstool, to use that one. (I guessed
right!)

It's a pretty sturdy chair now, even if it was originally "Ikea", and I
guarantee the next time she makes those chocolate matzo cracker's for
Passover, I'll have a plentiful supply.

Worth thanking Ikea for!

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"Swingman" wrote in message

"Lee Michaels" wrote in message

That was downright neighborly of you swingman.

Are you trying to make the rest of us look bad?

Naaah ... You would have done the same thing.

I guarantee there is not a wRec'er worthy of his salt who, with a shop
full
of tools not 50' away and plenty of scrap plywood, could have resisted
that
opportunity!


I have reinforced many conventional book cases. I just slap a doorskin on
the back and secure it with some brads. Unlike Norm, I actually use a
hammer to drive the brads. And if the shelves are starting to droop I will
make up some dividers of the correct height and jam them in there. These are
secured with some long finishing nails.

I figure it is a lot less work than making a replacement book case out of
real wood.

"Lee Michaels" wrote in message

That was downright neighborly of you swingman.

Are you trying to make the rest of us look bad?

Naaah ... You would have done the same thing.

I guarantee there is not a wRec'er worthy of his salt who, with a shop full
of tools not 50' away and plenty of scrap plywood, could have resisted that
opportunity!



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