FWW has a short clip demo-ing the new domino. Supposedly it cuts compound
mortises for loose tennon joinery.

http://www.taunton.com/finewoodworki....aspx?id=28038

Wonder if they swell to fit or must you use a gap filling glue.I'm sure it's
not a perfect fit. No????? Festool makes top line tools with top line
prices. Bet this will empty the checking account. lolol
"Leon" wrote in message
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FWW has a short clip demo-ing the new domino. Supposedly it cuts compound
mortises for loose tennon joinery.

http://www.taunton.com/finewoodworki....aspx?id=28038

"Lee" wrote in message
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Wonder if they swell to fit or must you use a gap filling glue.I'm sure
it's not a perfect fit. No????? Festool makes top line tools with top line
prices. Bet this will empty the checking account. lolol

Using their tenons, I bet the fit is good enough. The tool should go for
about $700. US. Pricey but about the same proce of some Lamelo plate
joiners.











"Leon" wrote in message
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FWW has a short clip demo-ing the new domino. Supposedly it cuts
compound mortises for loose tennon joinery.

http://www.taunton.com/finewoodworki....aspx?id=28038

On Dec 22, 7:32 pm, "Leon" wrote:
Using their tenons, I bet the fit is good enough. The tool should go for
about $700. US. Pricey but about the same proce of some Lamelo plate
joiners.

As usual, good idea well executed, Festool-type coin. I will no doubt
spring for one some day, but first I want to see the format adapted by
other manufacturers. I can buy good ol' biscuits from a dozen sources
(although I prefer Lamello), but to be that dependant on Festool? I
suppose one could make a whack of tenons in a pinch.

The other thing that puzzles me is: why? There are plenty of tests
which prove that double biscuits are in tenon territory in terms of
strength.

The only time I like tenon joinery, is when I get to see the 'through'
tenons.... and if you're going to drop $ 700..... take a deep breath
and go to Multi-Router.... I said a DEEP breath. Then again, if you're
going Multi-Router.. you're a quarter of the way to a 'Bot.... It is
such a ****er that so many cool tools have so much toy value.


....did I say that?

"Leon" wrote in message
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FWW has a short clip demo-ing the new domino. Supposedly it cuts compound
mortises for loose tennon joinery.

http://www.taunton.com/finewoodworki....aspx?id=28038

So it does the same thing as a $10 dowel jig? It is obviously much faster,
but a bit more expensive.

Robatoy wrote:
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why? There are plenty of tests
which prove that double biscuits are in tenon territory in terms of
strength.

Strength on a market level you mean? These tenons are thicker (6 or
8mm), which means you can use them in more projects (cookies ... uh,
biscuits can only be used length-wise).

The only time I like tenon joinery, is when I get to see the 'through'
tenons

Seems like this will be a possibility, no?

.... and if you're going to drop $ 700

As usual, you guys seem to be in the advantage again, they sell for 686
Euros here, but I'm sure that's without the value-added tax ... oops,
nope, 19% included. Still, about a 190€ difference if the 700 dollars
mentioned is tax-free.
See he http://www.baptist.nl/shop_prod.asp?...100&s=26&t=276
(Beats me why they will only sell in April on the other side of the pond).

..... take a deep breath
and go to Multi-Router.... I said a DEEP breath. Then again, if you're
going Multi-Router.. you're a quarter of the way to a 'Bot.... It is
such a ****er that so many cool tools have so much toy value.

From the video: "the bit is spinning and oscillating", and from the
article: "cutters are tipped with carbide to stand up to the slightly
odd cutting action".
The more it moves, the more it wears, but yes, we *are* talking Festool
here.

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Toller wrote:

So it does the same thing as a $10 dowel jig? It is obviously much faster,
but a bit more expensive.

Seems only the European websites mention it:
http://www.festool.co.uk/artikel/art...ten.cfm?id=102
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On Dec 22, 10:10 pm, Flex Flint wrote:
Robatoy wrote:[snip]

why? There are plenty of tests
which prove that double biscuits are in tenon territory in terms of
strength.Strength on a market level you mean?

No, I meant mechanical strength.
A single Domino would be quite strong, I'm sure. But 2 or 3 biscuits
(for those who already have biscuit jointers) are very strong as well.

"Robatoy" wrote in message
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On Dec 22, 7:32 pm, "Leon" wrote:
Using their tenons, I bet the fit is good enough. The tool should go for
about $700. US. Pricey but about the same proce of some Lamelo plate
joiners.

The other thing that puzzles me is: why? There are plenty of tests
which prove that double biscuits are in tenon territory in terms of
strength.

But It will do compound joints and on stock that is small. I am thinking
3/4" square.

The only time I like tenon joinery, is when I get to see the 'through'
tenons.... and if you're going to drop $ 700..... take a deep breath
and go to Multi-Router....

You can buy about 4 Domino's for the price of a Multirouter with out the
router.

"Toller" wrote in message
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"Leon" wrote in message
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FWW has a short clip demo-ing the new domino. Supposedly it cuts
compound mortises for loose tennon joinery.

http://www.taunton.com/finewoodworki....aspx?id=28038

So it does the same thing as a $10 dowel jig? It is obviously much
faster, but a bit more expensive.

Well if you want to simplify it that way, why use a dowel jig at all? Why
not just use a drill and bit?

Does a $10 dowel jig work on compound angles or cut slots over 1" wide? I
don't think so.

"Leon" wrote in message
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"Toller" wrote in message
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"Leon" wrote in message
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FWW has a short clip demo-ing the new domino. Supposedly it cuts
compound mortises for loose tennon joinery.

http://www.taunton.com/finewoodworki....aspx?id=28038

So it does the same thing as a $10 dowel jig? It is obviously much
faster, but a bit more expensive.

Well if you want to simplify it that way, why use a dowel jig at all? Why
not just use a drill and bit?

Does a $10 dowel jig work on compound angles or cut slots over 1" wide? I
don't think so.
It will do the joint they showed in the demo about as well, and not that
much longer to do. Perhaps the machine will do more than they showed, but
perhaps it won't.

1" slots? I just did a table joining the legs to the aprons with 2 1/2"
dowels. It is certainly strong enough.

"Leon" wrote in message

You can buy about 4 Domino's for the price of a Multirouter with out the
router.

Actually, I can imagine having both.

The Domino dowel system is intriguing, but I don't think it can match the
Leigh FMT or the WoodRat, which are similarly priced, or come close to the
M-R, in _versatility_.

The Domino dowel system is basically (like a plate joiner) a one trick pony
.... but it is a helluva handy trick.

And depending upon on robustness and cost of operation (i.e. cutter
replacement/doewls, etc.), for those needing beaucoup iterations of that one
trick, it may prove hard to beat for the price.

Time will tell on the robustness of the cutter, and although it appears that
they are pushing their "Domino Dowels", it sure looks like any decent
wooddorker could fashion his own, a la floating tenons.

For those with further interest who haven't found it, here is a fairly
in-depth pdf file:

http://www.idealtools.com.au/files/BROCHURE_DOMINO.pdf

I wonder how much the HF version will eventually cost?

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"Swingman" wrote in message
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Actually, I can imagine having both.

The Domino dowel system is intriguing, but I don't think it can match the
Leigh FMT or the WoodRat, which are similarly priced, or come close to the
M-R, in _versatility_.

Heah there are going to be limitations for sure. Depth of cut will be one.


The Domino dowel system is basically (like a plate joiner) a one trick
pony
... but it is a helluva handy trick.

And depending upon on robustness and cost of operation (i.e. cutter
replacement/doewls, etc.), for those needing beaucoup iterations of that
one
trick, it may prove hard to beat for the price.

I'm sure you can make them much cheaper. Mentioned was a kit of 4 other
sized bits, 1000 assorted tennons, and a nifty Festool container for $200.
Sounds high but the 4 carbide cutters are probably at least half the cost.


Time will tell on the robustness of the cutter, and although it appears
that
they are pushing their "Domino Dowels", it sure looks like any decent
wooddorker could fashion his own, a la floating tenons.

Yeah. I suspect the cutter is not totally unlike a carbide spiral bit. It
does take different diameter bits though.



For those with further interest who haven't found it, here is a fairly
in-depth pdf file:

http://www.idealtools.com.au/files/BROCHURE_DOMINO.pdf

I wonder how much the HF version will eventually cost?

Really. Maybe Ryobi will clone it, that used to be their thing back in the
late 80's.



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"Toller" wrote in message
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1" slots? I just did a table joining the legs to the aprons with 2 1/2"
dowels. It is certainly strong enough.


Yeah, 1" slots to accept 1" wide tennons.