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Bandsaw Choice
Im looking to replce my 20 year old Craftsman 12" bandsaw. I will use it
primarily for resawing, cuting dovetails and joints and some bandsaw boxes. I am trying to make my mind up between the Rinkon 10-325, Powermatic PWBS-14CS and the Jet JWBS-14DX. The Basics: Rinkon 10-325 -1 1/2 hp motor -16X20 cast table -13 inch resaw capacity -ball bearing blade guide -quick relase lever -work light -$749.99 with resaw fence Powermatic PWBS-14CS -1 1/2 hp motor -15X20 2 piece cast table -12 inch resaw capacity -Carter ball bearing blade guides -Carter Quick Release Lever -9 spoke cast wheels -Halogen work light -cut line chip blower -$799.99 with resaw fence and 6" riser after a $100.00 rebate Jet JWBS-14DX -1 1/4 hp motor -15X15 Cast Table -12 inch resaw capacity -Cool Blocks -9 Spoke cast wheels -Jet Quick Release -$759.97 with Resaw fence and 6" riser All are within my price after adding delivery and a mobile base. I am familure with the Jet and have found good info on the Powermatic, but info on the Rikon is scarce. Anybody have any experience with these and any recommendations on what to buy? |
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"Neil Larson" wrote: Im looking to replce my 20 year old Craftsman 12" bandsaw. I will use it primarily for resawing, cuting dovetails and joints and some bandsaw boxes. I am trying to make my mind up between the Rinkon 10-325, Powermatic PWBS-14CS and the Jet JWBS-14DX. The Basics: Powermatic PWBS-14CS -1 1/2 hp motor -15X20 2 piece cast table -12 inch resaw capacity -Carter ball bearing blade guides -Carter Quick Release Lever -9 spoke cast wheels -Halogen work light -cut line chip blower -$799.99 with resaw fence and 6" riser after a $100.00 rebate J All are within my price after adding delivery and a mobile base. I am familure with the Jet and have found good info on the Powermatic, but info on the Rikon is scarce. Anybody have any experience with these and any recommendations on what to buy The Powermatic was my choice a year ago and I've been very happy with it. They also threw in the mobile base for free. |
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I bought a used Jet a couple years ago, and have been pleased with it. I wish it had a little
bigger motor though. If you are in the Houston area, I know a guy with a 3hp Minimax he needs to sell. I wish I could afford to buy it. Low hours on it plus extras. Regards, Roy On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 21:40:56 GMT, "Neil Larson" wrote: Im looking to replce my 20 year old Craftsman 12" bandsaw. I will use it primarily for resawing, cuting dovetails and joints and some bandsaw boxes. I am trying to make my mind up between the Rinkon 10-325, Powermatic PWBS-14CS and the Jet JWBS-14DX. |
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Chicago area, too bad.
But thanks anyway. "Roy" wrote in message ... I bought a used Jet a couple years ago, and have been pleased with it. I wish it had a little bigger motor though. If you are in the Houston area, I know a guy with a 3hp Minimax he needs to sell. I wish I could afford to buy it. Low hours on it plus extras. Regards, Roy On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 21:40:56 GMT, "Neil Larson" wrote: Im looking to replce my 20 year old Craftsman 12" bandsaw. I will use it primarily for resawing, cuting dovetails and joints and some bandsaw boxes. I am trying to make my mind up between the Rinkon 10-325, Powermatic PWBS-14CS and the Jet JWBS-14DX. |
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Neil Larson wrote:
Im looking to replce my 20 year old Craftsman 12" bandsaw. I will use it primarily for resawing, cuting dovetails and joints and some bandsaw boxes. I am trying to make my mind up between the Rinkon 10-325, Powermatic PWBS-14CS and the Jet JWBS-14DX. The thing you don't mention is that the Rikon is 2 speed. 2950 and 1450, IIRC. That was the deciding factor for me. I think the low speed gave it the torque required to be the resaw champ in the Popular Woodworking article. I haven't used mine a lot yet, but it seems to be put together as well as any other and I found little or no drift with the factory supplied blade. -- It's turtles, all the way down |
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"Neil Larson" writes:
Im looking to replce my 20 year old Craftsman 12" bandsaw. I will use it primarily for resawing, cuting dovetails and joints and some bandsaw boxes. I am trying to make my mind up between the Rinkon 10-325, Powermatic PWBS-14CS and the Jet JWBS-14DX. As I read it, the Powermatic is only $50 more and you get Light Carter quick release (insead of the Jet) Carter Ball Bearing guides Bigger table Bigger motor Chip Blower Resaw fence I have the JWBS-14DX, but I wish I saved up for the PowerMatic when it was $200 more. For $50 more it's a no-brainer. -- Sending unsolicited commercial e-mail to this account incurs a fee of $500 per message, and acknowledges the legality of this contract. |
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It seemed that way to me especially as I am looking for high quality, low
vibration, quiet and smooth operation. My old craftsman is 20 years old and I expect this one to last 20 or more years. As I see it, instead of upgrading this saw (once I buy it) I will add a 18" or larger saw when I am able to grow my shop. But, that said, as I browsed the web and this board, I did find some very conflicting remarks. It seemed that in general, that the Powermatic was all I was asking for, yet some reported that they were nothing more than a Jet with a different paint. It does not look that way to me, but I am not a machinist. It is good to know that you have the Jet, which I understand is a quality saw in itself, and would prefer the Powermatic. Thanks for all your feedback. I believe that the Powermatic will be coming home with me next weekend. And if anyone else is looking, The sale at Woodcraft is good through 03 March. "Bruce Barnett" wrote in message ... "Neil Larson" writes: Im looking to replce my 20 year old Craftsman 12" bandsaw. I will use it primarily for resawing, cuting dovetails and joints and some bandsaw boxes. I am trying to make my mind up between the Rinkon 10-325, Powermatic PWBS-14CS and the Jet JWBS-14DX. As I read it, the Powermatic is only $50 more and you get Light Carter quick release (insead of the Jet) Carter Ball Bearing guides Bigger table Bigger motor Chip Blower Resaw fence I have the JWBS-14DX, but I wish I saved up for the PowerMatic when it was $200 more. For $50 more it's a no-brainer. -- Sending unsolicited commercial e-mail to this account incurs a fee of $500 per message, and acknowledges the legality of this contract. |
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"Neil Larson" writes:
I was asking for, yet some reported that they were nothing more than a Jet with a different paint. They're made by the same company. The color is different - for sure, but the extra features are significant. -- Sending unsolicited commercial e-mail to this account incurs a fee of $500 per message, and acknowledges the legality of this contract. |
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Of these three I pick the Jet. Also, consider a Delta.
On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 21:40:56 GMT, "Neil Larson" wrote: Im looking to replce my 20 year old Craftsman 12" bandsaw. I will use it primarily for resawing, cuting dovetails and joints and some bandsaw boxes. I am trying to make my mind up between the Rinkon 10-325, Powermatic PWBS-14CS and the Jet JWBS-14DX. The Basics: Rinkon 10-325 -1 1/2 hp motor -16X20 cast table -13 inch resaw capacity -ball bearing blade guide -quick relase lever -work light -$749.99 with resaw fence Powermatic PWBS-14CS -1 1/2 hp motor -15X20 2 piece cast table -12 inch resaw capacity -Carter ball bearing blade guides -Carter Quick Release Lever -9 spoke cast wheels -Halogen work light -cut line chip blower -$799.99 with resaw fence and 6" riser after a $100.00 rebate Jet JWBS-14DX -1 1/4 hp motor -15X15 Cast Table -12 inch resaw capacity -Cool Blocks -9 Spoke cast wheels -Jet Quick Release -$759.97 with Resaw fence and 6" riser All are within my price after adding delivery and a mobile base. I am familure with the Jet and have found good info on the Powermatic, but info on the Rikon is scarce. Anybody have any experience with these and any recommendations on what to buy? |
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Grizzly
"Phisherman" wrote in message ... Of these three I pick the Jet. Also, consider a Delta. On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 21:40:56 GMT, "Neil Larson" wrote: Im looking to replce my 20 year old Craftsman 12" bandsaw. I will use it primarily for resawing, cuting dovetails and joints and some bandsaw boxes. I am trying to make my mind up between the Rinkon 10-325, Powermatic PWBS-14CS and the Jet JWBS-14DX. The Basics: Rinkon 10-325 -1 1/2 hp motor -16X20 cast table -13 inch resaw capacity -ball bearing blade guide -quick relase lever -work light -$749.99 with resaw fence Powermatic PWBS-14CS -1 1/2 hp motor -15X20 2 piece cast table -12 inch resaw capacity -Carter ball bearing blade guides -Carter Quick Release Lever -9 spoke cast wheels -Halogen work light -cut line chip blower -$799.99 with resaw fence and 6" riser after a $100.00 rebate Jet JWBS-14DX -1 1/4 hp motor -15X15 Cast Table -12 inch resaw capacity -Cool Blocks -9 Spoke cast wheels -Jet Quick Release -$759.97 with Resaw fence and 6" riser All are within my price after adding delivery and a mobile base. I am familure with the Jet and have found good info on the Powermatic, but info on the Rikon is scarce. Anybody have any experience with these and any recommendations on what to buy? |
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On Sun, 4 Feb 2007 10:27:49 -0600, "Will" wrote:
Grizzly Hmm, I have a G0555, nothing wrong at all with it. But a Powermatic it is not. Jim |
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Neil, I use a 12" Craftsman for several years also, about 20 years.
Because the 18" Rikon got the best reviews I ordered the 18" model to replace my Craftsman. As far as I was concerned I got too little for what I was expecting. The biggest problem was with tracking and with 2 weeks of use learned to hate roller bearings in general. If you are truly looking to upgrade to an enjoyable saw for resawing I suggest you wait and save more money. Most of these models truly are a good value but IMHO for a first BS. Again IMHO you need to look at older units or something like a MiniMax or Laguna to make a significant move up in ability. "Neil Larson" wrote in message . net... Im looking to replce my 20 year old Craftsman 12" bandsaw. I will use it primarily for resawing, cuting dovetails and joints and some bandsaw boxes. I am trying to make my mind up between the Rinkon 10-325, Powermatic PWBS-14CS and the Jet JWBS-14DX. The Basics: Rinkon 10-325 -1 1/2 hp motor -16X20 cast table -13 inch resaw capacity -ball bearing blade guide -quick relase lever -work light -$749.99 with resaw fence Powermatic PWBS-14CS -1 1/2 hp motor -15X20 2 piece cast table -12 inch resaw capacity -Carter ball bearing blade guides -Carter Quick Release Lever -9 spoke cast wheels -Halogen work light -cut line chip blower -$799.99 with resaw fence and 6" riser after a $100.00 rebate Jet JWBS-14DX -1 1/4 hp motor -15X15 Cast Table -12 inch resaw capacity -Cool Blocks -9 Spoke cast wheels -Jet Quick Release -$759.97 with Resaw fence and 6" riser All are within my price after adding delivery and a mobile base. I am familure with the Jet and have found good info on the Powermatic, but info on the Rikon is scarce. Anybody have any experience with these and any recommendations on what to buy? |
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On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 21:40:56 GMT, "Neil Larson"
wrote: Im looking to replce my 20 year old Craftsman 12" bandsaw. I will use it primarily for resawing, cuting dovetails and joints and some bandsaw boxes. I am trying to make my mind up between the Rinkon 10-325, Powermatic PWBS-14CS and the Jet JWBS-14DX. All are within my price after adding delivery and a mobile base. I am familure with the Jet and have found good info on the Powermatic, but info on the Rikon is scarce. Anybody have any experience with these and any recommendations on what to buy? You mean 14" bandsaws? Especially since you mention resawing, take a hard look at Grizzly and Delta- Grizzly sells a riser block kit that will give you some extra cutting depth, and as far as I'm aware, it is 100% compatable with a Delta (except for color, of course) Those Grizzly bandsaws are really worth a look. I've had the pleasure of using and looking over several, and they're a lot of tool for the money. |
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Thanks to all who responded. The question was wether to buy the Rikon, Jet
or the Powermatic. I did not mention Grizzly or Delta because I had already eliminated them. Grizzly because there are VERY mixed reviews out there, you seem to either get a good one or you never get yours right. And Delta primarily because IMHO it is almost EXACTLY the same as the Jet but more expensive. Now before the Delta lovers start clamering for my hide, I have a Delta Contractors saw that I have had for 10 years and a Delta Planer, a Delta Drill Press and a Delta Sharpening station. I do like Delta tools, but I believe that their bandsaws live on the reputation of their table saws and really are no better than Jet. The Powermatic is the choice I have made. I probably would have gone that way even if the sale did not include the riser, $100..00 off and $100.00 mail in rebate. I got good recommendations on the Jet and a few on the Rikon, though for some reason, as hinted at above, I got more on why I should be looking at a Delta or Grizzly. Again, thanks for all your assistance, After I get the Powermatic in, deliverd and installed, Ill let yall know how it runs and cuts. "Neil Larson" wrote in message . net... Im looking to replce my 20 year old Craftsman 12" bandsaw. I will use it primarily for resawing, cuting dovetails and joints and some bandsaw boxes. I am trying to make my mind up between the Rinkon 10-325, Powermatic PWBS-14CS and the Jet JWBS-14DX. The Basics: Rinkon 10-325 -1 1/2 hp motor -16X20 cast table -13 inch resaw capacity -ball bearing blade guide -quick relase lever -work light -$749.99 with resaw fence Powermatic PWBS-14CS -1 1/2 hp motor -15X20 2 piece cast table -12 inch resaw capacity -Carter ball bearing blade guides -Carter Quick Release Lever -9 spoke cast wheels -Halogen work light -cut line chip blower -$799.99 with resaw fence and 6" riser after a $100.00 rebate Jet JWBS-14DX -1 1/4 hp motor -15X15 Cast Table -12 inch resaw capacity -Cool Blocks -9 Spoke cast wheels -Jet Quick Release -$759.97 with Resaw fence and 6" riser All are within my price after adding delivery and a mobile base. I am familure with the Jet and have found good info on the Powermatic, but info on the Rikon is scarce. Anybody have any experience with these and any recommendations on what to buy? |
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In the end all that really matters is the accuracy of cut, and that's
the Delta! On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 03:28:35 GMT, "Neil Larson" wrote: Thanks to all who responded. The question was wether to buy the Rikon, Jet or the Powermatic. I did not mention Grizzly or Delta because I had already eliminated them. Grizzly because there are VERY mixed reviews out there, you seem to either get a good one or you never get yours right. And Delta primarily because IMHO it is almost EXACTLY the same as the Jet but more expensive. Now before the Delta lovers start clamering for my hide, I have a Delta Contractors saw that I have had for 10 years and a Delta Planer, a Delta Drill Press and a Delta Sharpening station. I do like Delta tools, but I believe that their bandsaws live on the reputation of their table saws and really are no better than Jet. The Powermatic is the choice I have made. I probably would have gone that way even if the sale did not include the riser, $100..00 off and $100.00 mail in rebate. I got good recommendations on the Jet and a few on the Rikon, though for some reason, as hinted at above, I got more on why I should be looking at a Delta or Grizzly. Again, thanks for all your assistance, After I get the Powermatic in, deliverd and installed, Ill let yall know how it runs and cuts. "Neil Larson" wrote in message .net... Im looking to replce my 20 year old Craftsman 12" bandsaw. I will use it primarily for resawing, cuting dovetails and joints and some bandsaw boxes. I am trying to make my mind up between the Rinkon 10-325, Powermatic PWBS-14CS and the Jet JWBS-14DX. The Basics: Rinkon 10-325 -1 1/2 hp motor -16X20 cast table -13 inch resaw capacity -ball bearing blade guide -quick relase lever -work light -$749.99 with resaw fence Powermatic PWBS-14CS -1 1/2 hp motor -15X20 2 piece cast table -12 inch resaw capacity -Carter ball bearing blade guides -Carter Quick Release Lever -9 spoke cast wheels -Halogen work light -cut line chip blower -$799.99 with resaw fence and 6" riser after a $100.00 rebate Jet JWBS-14DX -1 1/4 hp motor -15X15 Cast Table -12 inch resaw capacity -Cool Blocks -9 Spoke cast wheels -Jet Quick Release -$759.97 with Resaw fence and 6" riser All are within my price after adding delivery and a mobile base. I am familure with the Jet and have found good info on the Powermatic, but info on the Rikon is scarce. Anybody have any experience with these and any recommendations on what to buy? |
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On Feb 6, 5:11 am, Phisherman wrote:
In the end all that really matters is the accuracy of cut, and that's the Delta! On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 03:28:35 GMT, "Neil Larson" wrote: Thanks to all who responded. The question was wether to buy the Rikon, Jet or the Powermatic. I did not mention Grizzly or Delta because I had already eliminated them. Grizzly because there are VERY mixed reviews out there, you seem to either get a good one or you never get yours right. And Delta primarily because IMHO it is almost EXACTLY the same as the Jet but more expensive. Now before the Delta lovers start clamering for my hide, I have a Delta Contractors saw that I have had for 10 years and a Delta Planer, a Delta Drill Press and a Delta Sharpening station. I do like Delta tools, but I believe that their bandsaws live on the reputation of their table saws and really are no better than Jet. The Powermatic is the choice I have made. I probably would have gone that way even if the sale did not include the riser, $100..00 off and $100.00 mail in rebate. I got good recommendations on the Jet and a few on the Rikon, though for some reason, as hinted at above, I got more on why I should be looking at a Delta or Grizzly. Again, thanks for all your assistance, After I get the Powermatic in, deliverd and installed, Ill let yall know how it runs and cuts. "Neil Larson" wrote in message .net... Im looking to replce my 20 year old Craftsman 12" bandsaw. I will use it primarily for resawing, cuting dovetails and joints and some bandsaw boxes. I am trying to make my mind up between the Rinkon 10-325, Powermatic PWBS-14CS and the Jet JWBS-14DX. The Basics: Rinkon 10-325 -1 1/2 hp motor -16X20 cast table -13 inch resaw capacity -ball bearing blade guide -quick relase lever -work light -$749.99 with resaw fence Powermatic PWBS-14CS -1 1/2 hp motor -15X20 2 piece cast table -12 inch resaw capacity -Carter ball bearing blade guides -Carter Quick Release Lever -9 spoke cast wheels -Halogen work light -cut line chip blower -$799.99 with resaw fence and 6" riser after a $100.00 rebate Jet JWBS-14DX -1 1/4 hp motor -15X15 Cast Table -12 inch resaw capacity -Cool Blocks -9 Spoke cast wheels -Jet Quick Release -$759.97 with Resaw fence and 6" riser All are within my price after adding delivery and a mobile base. I am familure with the Jet and have found good info on the Powermatic, but info on the Rikon is scarce. Anybody have any experience with these and any recommendations on what to buy?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I bought my Rikon 325 last October and had to contact Rikon they had a supplier problem with the lower ball bearing guide assemble. A few days after contacting them a complete new lower guide assemble arrived by mail and it works great. Then I went to Sears in search of a Table Saw and what do I see -- a modified to sears spec Rikon band saw for sale. It was only a regular 14" without the extra resaw capicity. I did buy the hybird table saw which looks very much like the Steel City hybird saw. Very pleased with both after taking the time to align them. I will be very interested in how the powermatic works out. It was my 2nd choice because of a higher price at the time and the reviews. |
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On 6 Feb 2007 15:38:27 -0800, "wyzarddoc" wrote:
On Feb 6, 5:11 am, Phisherman wrote: In the end all that really matters is the accuracy of cut, and that's the Delta! On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 03:28:35 GMT, "Neil Larson" wrote: Thanks to all who responded. The question was wether to buy the Rikon, Jet or the Powermatic. I did not mention Grizzly or Delta because I had already eliminated them. Grizzly because there are VERY mixed reviews out there, you seem to either get a good one or you never get yours right. And Delta primarily because IMHO it is almost EXACTLY the same as the Jet but more expensive. Now before the Delta lovers start clamering for my hide, I have a Delta Contractors saw that I have had for 10 years and a Delta Planer, a Delta Drill Press and a Delta Sharpening station. I do like Delta tools, but I believe that their bandsaws live on the reputation of their table saws and really are no better than Jet. The Powermatic is the choice I have made. I probably would have gone that way even if the sale did not include the riser, $100..00 off and $100.00 mail in rebate. I got good recommendations on the Jet and a few on the Rikon, though for some reason, as hinted at above, I got more on why I should be looking at a Delta or Grizzly. Again, thanks for all your assistance, After I get the Powermatic in, deliverd and installed, Ill let yall know how it runs and cuts. "Neil Larson" wrote in message .net... Im looking to replce my 20 year old Craftsman 12" bandsaw. I will use it primarily for resawing, cuting dovetails and joints and some bandsaw boxes. I am trying to make my mind up between the Rinkon 10-325, Powermatic PWBS-14CS and the Jet JWBS-14DX. The Basics: Rinkon 10-325 -1 1/2 hp motor -16X20 cast table -13 inch resaw capacity -ball bearing blade guide -quick relase lever -work light -$749.99 with resaw fence Powermatic PWBS-14CS -1 1/2 hp motor -15X20 2 piece cast table -12 inch resaw capacity -Carter ball bearing blade guides -Carter Quick Release Lever -9 spoke cast wheels -Halogen work light -cut line chip blower -$799.99 with resaw fence and 6" riser after a $100.00 rebate Jet JWBS-14DX -1 1/4 hp motor -15X15 Cast Table -12 inch resaw capacity -Cool Blocks -9 Spoke cast wheels -Jet Quick Release -$759.97 with Resaw fence and 6" riser All are within my price after adding delivery and a mobile base. I am familure with the Jet and have found good info on the Powermatic, but info on the Rikon is scarce. Anybody have any experience with these and any recommendations on what to buy?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I bought my Rikon 325 last October and had to contact Rikon they had a supplier problem with the lower ball bearing guide assemble. A few days after contacting them a complete new lower guide assemble arrived by mail and it works great. Then I went to Sears in search of a Table Saw and what do I see -- a modified to sears spec Rikon band saw for sale. It was only a regular 14" without the extra resaw capicity. Not quite. It has 8 inch resaw capacity, not the 6 of a standard Rikon or the 13 of the deluxe. Also doesn't have the tension release. Cuts just fine though. And the price is very attractive. Even comes with a decent blade. Fence isn't all that great--it's major failing is that it can't be set to the edge of the table, at least not without moving the rails to a different mounting point that renders the markings useless. Be nice if Kreg would come up with an adapter for theirs. I did buy the hybird table saw which looks very much like the Steel City hybird saw. Very pleased with both after taking the time to align them. I will be very interested in how the powermatic works out. It was my 2nd choice because of a higher price at the time and the reviews. Which hybrid saw did you get? The one with the Sears fence or the one with the Biesemeier? |
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