I am reproducing this box...

http://tinyurl.com/hjr43


....or at least trying to (take note of both images, the top becomes
clearer). Anyway, I am using 1/2" stock all 'round. That being said,
and my complete inability to transpose spatial images, how would I
select a router bit to make an edge like the one around the top? The
top will be 1/2" as well.

I guess on a broader point, are router bits purchased and used
according to the thickness of the stock? I look at these in the store
and it seems to me they need to be used on 3/4" or thicker stock or the
bearing on the end will be above the edge of the wood.

Am I looking at these wrong? They are too expensive to just pick up a
few and experiment.

As always,
Thank you.

jtpr wrote:
I am reproducing this box...

http://tinyurl.com/hjr43


...or at least trying to (take note of both images, the top becomes
clearer). Anyway, I am using 1/2" stock all 'round. That being said,
and my complete inability to transpose spatial images, how would I
select a router bit to make an edge like the one around the top? The
top will be 1/2" as well.

I guess on a broader point, are router bits purchased and used
according to the thickness of the stock? I look at these in the store
and it seems to me they need to be used on 3/4" or thicker stock or the
bearing on the end will be above the edge of the wood.

Am I looking at these wrong? They are too expensive to just pick up a
few and experiment.

As always,
Thank you.

Can't tell exactly, but it looks like some type of ogee/cove bit, maybe
along the lines of one of these:
http://www.infinitytools.com/products.asp?dept=1034

A number of router bits are designed to produce multiple profiles as
determined by the height of the bit in the table and the stock
thickness. This is a way to reduce costs, etc. For example:
http://www.infinitytools.com/products.asp?dept=1032

Hope this helps.

~Mark.

On 19/05/2006 12:54 PM, jtpr wrote:
I am reproducing this box...

http://tinyurl.com/hjr43

One of these?

http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.a...168,46178&ap=2

jtpr wrote:
I am reproducing this box...

http://tinyurl.com/hjr43


...or at least trying to (take note of both images, the top becomes
clearer). Anyway, I am using 1/2" stock all 'round. That being said,
and my complete inability to transpose spatial images, how would I
select a router bit to make an edge like the one around the top? The
top will be 1/2" as well.

I guess on a broader point, are router bits purchased and used
according to the thickness of the stock? I look at these in the store
and it seems to me they need to be used on 3/4" or thicker stock or the
bearing on the end will be above the edge of the wood.

Am I looking at these wrong? They are too expensive to just pick up a
few and experiment.

As always,
Thank you.



nice box. it'll give you several good learning experiences.

if the router bit needs a thicker piece for the bearing to work, make
an appropriately sized piece from another material and attach it to the
board with a temporary connection. the size may be a little bit bigger
or smaller than the box top, depending on the configuration of the bit.
the piece you use for a guide can be made from any material with a
smooth edge- MDF is a common choice. the temporary connection could be
double stick carpet tape, hot glue, clamps, etc.

another (prolly better) approach is to use the bit in a router table,
guide the cut with the fence and ignore the bearing. don't be
intimidated by the gazillions of super expensive router tables on the
market... you can do a very nice job on this box top with the router
screwed to the bottom of a scrap of formica, a sink cutout or the like.

while quality tools are definitely better and more satisfying to use,
the quality of the inexpensive bits coming from china has gotten better
in the last couple of years.


before you do anything else though, go here and spend some time
reading:
http://www.patwarner.com/

"Doug Payne" wrote in message

I am reproducing this box...
http://tinyurl.com/hjr43

One of these?

http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.a...168,46178&ap=2

That's a ogee panel raising bit Doug. Although it's the same pattern he is
looking for, it's much too big an ogee for the box he's using as an example.

On 19 May 2006 09:54:46 -0700, "jtpr" wrote:

I am reproducing this box...

http://tinyurl.com/hjr43


...or at least trying to (take note of both images, the top becomes
clearer). Anyway, I am using 1/2" stock all 'round. That being said,
and my complete inability to transpose spatial images, how would I
select a router bit to make an edge like the one around the top?

You have good replies already. Also note:

1. you don't have to use the full depth of a bit.

2. Look on the dark side [of the image you suggested] ...top left
corner.. for the shape of the bit.

Also look as if it was horizontal rather than vertical [and so might
have to hold the board vertically. If that is so, CLAMP IT securely
in a guide to slide along the fence, and take small amounts until you
are there. You can move the fence to do that. This is how I do
raised panels, cutting most off using the table saw, then a couple of
passes across the router ...clamped to a fence slide for each cut. By
a fence slide, I mean a smooth piece [1 1/2 square might do] that will
slide along the fence top. The piece to be cut is set and clamped
securely to that, then slide this assembly along, holding securely
against the fence.

On 19 May 2006 13:24:34 EDT, Mark Ohlund
wrote:

jtpr wrote:
I am reproducing this box...

http://tinyurl.com/hjr43


...or at least trying to (take note of both images, the top becomes
clearer). Anyway, I am using 1/2" stock all 'round. That being said,
and my complete inability to transpose spatial images, how would I
select a router bit to make an edge like the one around the top? The
top will be 1/2" as well.

I guess on a broader point, are router bits purchased and used
according to the thickness of the stock? I look at these in the store
and it seems to me they need to be used on 3/4" or thicker stock or the
bearing on the end will be above the edge of the wood.

Am I looking at these wrong? They are too expensive to just pick up a
few and experiment.

As always,
Thank you.

Can't tell exactly, but it looks like some type of ogee/cove bit, maybe
along the lines of one of these:
http://www.infinitytools.com/products.asp?dept=1034

A number of router bits are designed to produce multiple profiles as
determined by the height of the bit in the table and the stock
thickness. This is a way to reduce costs, etc. For example:
http://www.infinitytools.com/products.asp?dept=1032

Hope this helps.

~Mark.


Yeah, looks like an Ogee. There are many
types......http://www.toolmarts.com/shop-bin/sb...677ee f75bbfa

Go he

http://www.freudtools.com/woodworker...ml/Ogee_1.html

or

Pick a few choices and browse around. Freud probably makes more
bits than anyone else. I would think you could find that edge
quite easily.



jtpr wrote:

I am reproducing this box...

http://tinyurl.com/hjr43


...or at least trying to (take note of both images, the top becomes
clearer). Anyway, I am using 1/2" stock all 'round. That being said,
and my complete inability to transpose spatial images, how would I
select a router bit to make an edge like the one around the top? The
top will be 1/2" as well.

Pat Barber wrote:
Go he

http://www.freudtools.com/woodworker...ml/Ogee_1.html

I say go he

http://www.whitesiderouterbits.com/

They're the Shapton Stones of router bits.

JP

On 19 May 2006 09:54:46 -0700, jtpr wrote:
I am reproducing this box...

http://tinyurl.com/hjr43

http://www.routerbits.com/cgi-router...8073687_886+60

The Whiteside #3220 or #3222 is a nice small ogee, very close to the pictured
shape.

You can get real close with two different bits. A "core box" bit will do the
curved part, and a 45-degree chamfer bit will do the slope on the outside, but
it would be a straight slope instead of the slightly curved shape you'd get
with an ogee. Both of these cuts can be made on a router table, using a fence
to guide the top, with the top held flat to the table.

--
Art

On 19/05/2006 2:25 PM, Upscale wrote:
"Doug Payne" wrote in message

I am reproducing this box...
http://tinyurl.com/hjr43
One of these?

http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.a...168,46178&ap=2

That's a ogee panel raising bit Doug. Although it's the same pattern he is
looking for, it's much too big an ogee for the box he's using as an example.

Yeah, I guess. I didn't look at the box dimensions. Here's a horizontal
one that's a bit smaller:

http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.a...168,46178&ap=1

There's probably lots out there if he searches a bit.