.... and Clifton, unlike Hock and Lie Nielsen does not include the courtesy
screw with its $30 chip breaker. The old screw is too big, seems like I
will strip the threads on the screw or the new chip breaker if I force it.
I tried the chip breaker screw from another Stanley plane and ... same
problem. I can't find anything about this problem amid numerous comments
praising the Clifton chip breaker. Any ideas? The only chipbreaker screw
I've been able to find for sale on its own is a part sold by Highland
Hardware for repairing "bench planes." I suspect this is the same as the
Stanley screws I've got already. Am I missing something?

Well, I got lucky and solve my own problem. Thanks to the good folks at
Tools for Working Wood (check them out at
http://www.toolsforworkingwood.com) this problem has been identified by one
distributor of the Clifton chip breaker along with their $.99 solution!

Some companies are simply in another league when it comes to serving their
customers. Tools for Working Wood is one of them. Clifton will hopefully
realize that, for failing to include a critical $.99 part, one potential
customer for their planes spent hours trying to puzzle out why a product
their distributor's catalog told me "will fit all makes of metal bench
planes including Stanley, Record, and Footprint" requires a screw that is
not supplied, not mentioned in the product's "instructions," and
incompatible with the screw that will be found on the planes that many
purchasers of the Clifton chip breaker will be trying to upgrade. Dumb.

By the way, the chip breaker/cap iron is widely praised and appears to be a
wonderful product. I am still looking forward to upgrading my vintage
1912-1918 Type 11 Stanley jack plane, just not this weekend.

Here is the link to Tools for Working Wood:

http://www.toolsforworkingwood.com/M...egory_Code=CCL

2 Piece "Stay-Set" Cap Iron for Bailey Style Planes
Click on image to enlarge Quantity in Basket: none
Code: EE-SS-635.XX
See below for stock info
A basic method for making a good hand plane work even better is to use a
thicker blade and cap iron. These cap irons by Clifton are based on the old
Record "Stay-Set" cap iron design. The back of the cap iron screws to the
blade like a regular cap iron (screw not included), but the front piece is a
heavy chunk of steel that hooks on the back and really adds a mass of metal
to the blade. The end result is like the heavy cap irons that are found on
infill planes. When you need to hone the blade, you just lift off the front
part, sharpen it and replace it with no loss of adjustment and no fiddling
around for a screwdriver. When used on a new, Stanley-type plane, the cap
iron can make a dramatic difference. All of our Clifton bench planes come
already fitted with a premium Clifton blade and this cap iron.
Made in England.
Note: Does not fit pre-1970's Stanley Cap-iron screws. Works fine with all
newer American, Indian, and English made Stanley, Record, and Anant planes.
Modern cap iron screws are available below.

"Ted Franklin" wrote in message
nk.net...
... and Clifton, unlike Hock and Lie Nielsen does not include the courtesy
screw with its $30 chip breaker. The old screw is too big, seems like I
will strip the threads on the screw or the new chip breaker if I force it.
I tried the chip breaker screw from another Stanley plane and ... same
problem. I can't find anything about this problem amid numerous comments
praising the Clifton chip breaker. Any ideas? The only chipbreaker screw
I've been able to find for sale on its own is a part sold by Highland
Hardware for repairing "bench planes." I suspect this is the same as the
Stanley screws I've got already. Am I missing something?

Ted Franklin wrote:
Well, I got lucky and solve my own problem. Thanks to the good folks at
Tools for Working Wood (check them out at
http://www.toolsforworkingwood.com) this problem has been identified by one
distributor of the Clifton chip breaker along with their $.99 solution!

Some companies are simply in another league when it comes to serving their
customers. Tools for Working Wood is one of them. Clifton will hopefully
realize that, for failing to include a critical $.99 part, one potential
customer for their planes spent hours trying to puzzle out why a product
their distributor's catalog told me "will fit all makes of metal bench
planes including Stanley, Record, and Footprint" requires a screw that is
not supplied, not mentioned in the product's "instructions," and
incompatible with the screw that will be found on the planes that many
purchasers of the Clifton chip breaker will be trying to upgrade. Dumb.

By the way, the chip breaker/cap iron is widely praised and appears to be a
wonderful product. I am still looking forward to upgrading my vintage
1912-1918 Type 11 Stanley jack plane, just not this weekend.

Here is the link to Tools for Working Wood:

http://www.toolsforworkingwood.com/M...egory_Code=CCL

2 Piece "Stay-Set" Cap Iron for Bailey Style Planes
Click on image to enlarge Quantity in Basket: none
Code: EE-SS-635.XX
See below for stock info
A basic method for making a good hand plane work even better is to use a
thicker blade and cap iron. These cap irons by Clifton are based on the old
Record "Stay-Set" cap iron design. The back of the cap iron screws to the
blade like a regular cap iron (screw not included), but the front piece is a
heavy chunk of steel that hooks on the back and really adds a mass of metal
to the blade. The end result is like the heavy cap irons that are found on
infill planes. When you need to hone the blade, you just lift off the front
part, sharpen it and replace it with no loss of adjustment and no fiddling
around for a screwdriver. When used on a new, Stanley-type plane, the cap
iron can make a dramatic difference. All of our Clifton bench planes come
already fitted with a premium Clifton blade and this cap iron.
Made in England.
Note: Does not fit pre-1970's Stanley Cap-iron screws. Works fine with all
newer American, Indian, and English made Stanley, Record, and Anant planes.
Modern cap iron screws are available below.

"Ted Franklin" wrote in message
nk.net...

... and Clifton, unlike Hock and Lie Nielsen does not include the courtesy
screw with its $30 chip breaker. The old screw is too big, seems like I
will strip the threads on the screw or the new chip breaker if I force it.
I tried the chip breaker screw from another Stanley plane and ... same
problem. I can't find anything about this problem amid numerous comments
praising the Clifton chip breaker. Any ideas? The only chipbreaker screw
I've been able to find for sale on its own is a part sold by Highland
Hardware for repairing "bench planes." I suspect this is the same as the
Stanley screws I've got already. Am I missing something?

I think they are all out to get you. From what I can tell, the Clifton
chip breaker uses standard threading and you could've found your
solution at the hardware store for considerably less than $0.99.

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"Ted Franklin" wrote in message
nk.net...
... and Clifton, unlike Hock and Lie Nielsen does not include the courtesy
screw with its $30 chip breaker. The old screw is too big, seems like I
will strip the threads on the screw or the new chip breaker if I force it.
I tried the chip breaker screw from another Stanley plane and ... same
problem. I can't find anything about this problem amid numerous comments
praising the Clifton chip breaker. Any ideas? The only chipbreaker screw
I've been able to find for sale on its own is a part sold by Highland
Hardware for repairing "bench planes." I suspect this is the same as the
Stanley screws I've got already. Am I missing something?

I am puzzled. I have three Stanley's with Hock Irons and Clifton Breakers.
All of the breakers came with the Clifton screw. They will fit Bailey's as
well as Bedrocks. Clifton must have changed their marketing policies.

Hopefully, Clifton will include screws in the future, but if not, perhaps
the next person who runs into this problem will google up this thread and
find the names of at least two sources for the part.Although the solution
isn't as simple as a trip to the hardware store (unless Highland Hardware,
or some other woodworking specialist who stocks plane parts, happens to be
in your neighborhood!), it's easy enough to order the part since what's
needed is a current (not historic) Stanley part.

Now I'm really looking forward to trying out the new iron!

"Lowell Holmes" wrote in message news:9f%Jf.2976$GQ.11@trnddc03...

"Ted Franklin" wrote in message
nk.net...
... and Clifton, unlike Hock and Lie Nielsen does not include the
courtesy
screw with its $30 chip breaker. The old screw is too big, seems like I
will strip the threads on the screw or the new chip breaker if I force
it.
I tried the chip breaker screw from another Stanley plane and ... same
problem. I can't find anything about this problem amid numerous
comments
praising the Clifton chip breaker. Any ideas? The only chipbreaker
screw
I've been able to find for sale on its own is a part sold by Highland
Hardware for repairing "bench planes." I suspect this is the same as
the
Stanley screws I've got already. Am I missing something?

I am puzzled. I have three Stanley's with Hock Irons and Clifton Breakers.
All of the breakers came with the Clifton screw. They will fit Bailey's as
well as Bedrocks. Clifton must have changed their marketing policies.