I was looking at a Lie-Nielson plane today and noticed how different
the chip breaker is. It is a flat piece of metal that looks like it has
been ground on the blade side so that a little lip stick up at the end.
The grinding marks really puzzled me. Like, how can they make it that
way? The grinding for the majority is along the length of the breaker
all the way down to the little lip. It's the all the way part that made
me wonder what was going on. How can they do that?

What is the advantage of their chip breaker style over the bent Stanley
type? What are the Hock breakers like?

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I was looking at a Lie-Nielson plane today and noticed how different
the chip breaker is. It is a flat piece of metal that looks like it has
been ground on the blade side so that a little lip stick up at the end.
The grinding marks really puzzled me. Like, how can they make it that
way? The grinding for the majority is along the length of the breaker
all the way down to the little lip. It's the all the way part that made
me wonder what was going on. How can they do that?

What is the advantage of their chip breaker style over the bent Stanley
type? What are the Hock breakers like?

I don't have the newer style cap-iron that L-N is producing now, but
from seeing the pictures, it looks like it is thicker at the business
end, and thus would help dampen vibration better than the old style
cap-irons. (And dampening vibration is the primary function of a
cap-iron, rather than "chip-breaking", at least on a plane set up to
take a very fine shaving.)

Ron is also making that thicker style cap-iron these days.


Chuck Vance

Ron is also making that thicker style cap-iron these days.

Chuck Vance


I have a couple of those, the screw is too far back from the end and so the
gap between it and the blade is too loose, it makes tight contact but easily
takes in shavings, jamming in there when the screw is as tight as it can get.

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AAvK wrote:
Ron is also making that thicker style cap-iron these days.

Chuck Vance



I have a couple of those, the screw is too far back from the end and so the
gap between it and the blade is too loose, it makes tight contact but easily
takes in shavings, jamming in there when the screw is as tight as it can get.


Yours is the first I've heard of such a problem, and we've sold a lot of
those breakers (and received many testimonials to their efficacy). The
screw location is a Stanley function. It has to fit the
plane/frog/depth-adjuster. And they're ground to a sharp edge that can't
lift off the back of the blade. The small bend in the breaker often
springs the blade slightly and the whole assembly then gets clamped down
tightly by the lever cap. I can't imagine how you're getting shavings
under the breaker. I would appreciate it if you'd contact me directly
with specifics. I don't want to post my email here (enough spam already)
but if you go to the website, you can contact me from there.

Thanks,
Ron

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Ron Hock
HOCK TOOLS www.hocktools.com

On 27 Apr 2005 16:42:47 -0700, wrote:

I was looking at a Lie-Nielson plane today and noticed how different
the chip breaker is. It is a flat piece of metal that looks like it has
been ground on the blade side so that a little lip stick up at the end.
The grinding marks really puzzled me. Like, how can they make it that
way? The grinding for the majority is along the length of the breaker
all the way down to the little lip. It's the all the way part that made
me wonder what was going on. How can they do that?

What is the advantage of their chip breaker style over the bent Stanley
type? What are the Hock breakers like?

FWIW, I know Mr. Lee follows this group, so you may want to repost
this with something like "Attn: Rob Lee" As he is the guy
responsible for making so many of us drool over those Lie-Nielsons, he
may be the best equipped to answer your question.


Aut inveniam viam aut faciam

Prometheus wrote:
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FWIW, I know Mr. Lee follows this group, so you may want to repost
this with something like "Attn: Rob Lee" As he is the guy
responsible for making so many of us drool over those Lie-Nielsons, he
may be the best equipped to answer your question.


Aut inveniam viam aut faciam

Mr. Lee does follow this group, but he is the genius behind Veritus (Lee
Valley). BTW, there is a great article in Popular Woodworking this
month comparing the two planes.

Glen