Hi Folks,
First I apologize for this Off Topic post, but my contacts on the West Coast
are somewhat limited. I have a friend that is looking for anyone who knows
about the Oasis of Hope Clinic in Tijuana. He's looking for someone who's
had experience with them. He's rather desperate, his wife, a 10 year cancer
survivor, has just been diagnosed as terminal. We are in Georgia and he is
reluctant to expend slender resources on chasing wild fowl. Thanks for your
patience and assistance.
Best Regards,
Beej

Beej-in-GA wrote:
Hi Folks,
First I apologize for this Off Topic post, but my contacts on the
West Coast are somewhat limited. I have a friend that is looking for
anyone who knows about the Oasis of Hope Clinic in Tijuana. He's
looking for someone who's had experience with them. He's rather
desperate, his wife, a 10 year cancer survivor, has just been
diagnosed as terminal. We are in Georgia and he is reluctant to
expend slender resources on chasing wild fowl. Thanks for your
patience and assistance.
Best Regards,
Beej

Andy Ivy came up with laetrile decades ago. AFAIK it has never been
used in the US. I've known several people who went to Mexico so they
could get it. None survived.

--
dadiOH
____________________________

dadiOH's dandies v3.06...
....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico

"dadiOH" wrote in message
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Beej-in-GA wrote:
Hi Folks,
First I apologize for this Off Topic post, but my contacts on the
West Coast are somewhat limited. I have a friend that is looking for
anyone who knows about the Oasis of Hope Clinic in Tijuana. He's
looking for someone who's had experience with them. He's rather
desperate, his wife, a 10 year cancer survivor, has just been
diagnosed as terminal. We are in Georgia and he is reluctant to
expend slender resources on chasing wild fowl. Thanks for your
patience and assistance.
Best Regards,
Beej

Andy Ivy came up with laetrile decades ago. AFAIK it has never been
used in the US. I've known several people who went to Mexico so they
could get it. None survived.

--

I believe Steve McQueen was one of the earlier non-survivors of this hoax.

Beej-in-GA said:

Hi Folks,
First I apologize for this Off Topic post, but my contacts on the West Coast
are somewhat limited. I have a friend that is looking for anyone who knows
about the Oasis of Hope Clinic in Tijuana. He's looking for someone who's
had experience with them. He's rather desperate, his wife, a 10 year cancer
survivor, has just been diagnosed as terminal. We are in Georgia and he is
reluctant to expend slender resources on chasing wild fowl. Thanks for your
patience and assistance.
Best Regards,
Beej

Just my opinion, but I believe that most of these "Treatment Centers"
are scams that prey upon the vain hope of it's victims. They bleed
your wallet dry with false promises of miraculous cures that "The FDA
won't approve in the US". I wouldn't drink the water there, much less
submit to medical treatment. There is a reason they do not operate
within the US - the ones that exist in the states are bad enough.

Of course, there may be exceptions, but I wouldn't expect them to be
located in Mexico... Canada, Germany, France, etc. perhaps...

I am sorry to hear of your friends and their troubles and wish I had
better information to offer. I personally would be more inclined to
do some research, internationally, for possible herbal remedies and
treatments and such. Spend your days comfortable, at home among
family and friends, rather than being ripped off by some swindler
across the border - or for that matter, some swindler... uh...
hospital in the US.

JMHO, FWIW, etc.

Greg G.

Charles Self wrote:
"dadiOH" wrote in message
news:7uXrf.5473$x%2.4189@trnddc06...
Beej-in-GA wrote:
Hi Folks,
First I apologize for this Off Topic post, but my contacts on the
West Coast are somewhat limited. I have a friend that is looking
for anyone who knows about the Oasis of Hope Clinic in Tijuana.
He's looking for someone who's had experience with them. He's
rather desperate, his wife, a 10 year cancer survivor, has just been
diagnosed as terminal. We are in Georgia and he is reluctant to
expend slender resources on chasing wild fowl. Thanks for your
patience and assistance.
Best Regards,
Beej

Andy Ivy came up with laetrile decades ago. AFAIK it has never been
used in the US. I've known several people who went to Mexico so they
could get it. None survived.

--

I believe Steve McQueen was one of the earlier non-survivors of this
hoax.

I wouldn't call it a hoax. At least not so far as Ivy was concerned. I
knew his son but not him; however, he was a very bright individual -
Nobel prize winner - and I'm sure he honestly viewed it as a viable
treatment. Unfortunately, that hasn't proven to be the case.

I'm not entirely sure I would call the foreign alternative treatment
clinics "hoaxes" either although I suspect their primary function is to
enrich the owners. Still, if I were terminally ill from cancer, I might
well try one. Hope springs eternal and at that point they couldn't hurt
much.


--
dadiOH
____________________________

dadiOH's dandies v3.06...
....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico

"Beej-in-GA" wrote in message
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Hi Folks,
First I apologize for this Off Topic post, but my contacts on the West
Coast are somewhat limited. I have a friend that is looking for anyone
who knows about the Oasis of Hope Clinic in Tijuana. He's looking for
someone who's had experience with them. He's rather desperate, his wife,
a 10 year cancer survivor, has just been diagnosed as terminal. We are in
Georgia and he is reluctant to expend slender resources on chasing wild
fowl. Thanks for your patience and assistance.
Best Regards,
Beej


The last time I check on treatment plans - 8 yrs ago - the average treatment
and education costs were $7K + travel, food and motel (usually owned by the
clinic).

"Greg G." wrote in message
...
Beej-in-GA said:

Hi Folks,
First I apologize for this Off Topic post, but my contacts on the West
Coast
are somewhat limited. I have a friend that is looking for anyone who
knows
about the Oasis of Hope Clinic in Tijuana. He's looking for someone who's
had experience with them. He's rather desperate, his wife, a 10 year
cancer
survivor, has just been diagnosed as terminal. We are in Georgia and he
is
reluctant to expend slender resources on chasing wild fowl. Thanks for
your
patience and assistance.
Best Regards,
Beej

Just my opinion, but I believe that most of these "Treatment Centers"
are scams that prey upon the vain hope of it's victims. They bleed
your wallet dry with false promises of miraculous cures that "The FDA
won't approve in the US". I wouldn't drink the water there, much less
submit to medical treatment. There is a reason they do not operate
within the US - the ones that exist in the states are bad enough.

Of course, there may be exceptions, but I wouldn't expect them to be
located in Mexico... Canada, Germany, France, etc. perhaps...

I am sorry to hear of your friends and their troubles and wish I had
better information to offer. I personally would be more inclined to
do some research, internationally, for possible herbal remedies and
treatments and such. Spend your days comfortable, at home among
family and friends, rather than being ripped off by some swindler
across the border - or for that matter, some swindler... uh...
hospital in the US.

JMHO, FWIW, etc.

Greg G.


You may be right, but I personally know a gent that was diagnosed with
terminal cancer twenty years ago. The doctors told him to get his things in
order because he had only a few months to go. Luckily he had the resources
and the determination not to give up. He spent the better part of a year in
Mexico and beat the cancer. He is still alive and well today!

--
PoorUB
'05 Ultra Classic

"C & E" wrote in message
...

"Beej-in-GA" wrote in message
.net...
Hi Folks,
First I apologize for this Off Topic post, but my contacts on the West
Coast are somewhat limited. I have a friend that is looking for anyone
who knows about the Oasis of Hope Clinic in Tijuana. He's looking for
someone who's had experience with them. He's rather desperate, his wife,
a 10 year cancer survivor, has just been diagnosed as terminal. We are
in Georgia and he is reluctant to expend slender resources on chasing
wild fowl. Thanks for your patience and assistance.
Best Regards,
Beej


The last time I check on treatment plans - 8 yrs ago - the average
treatment and education costs were $7K + travel, food and motel (usually
owned by the clinic).

I want to thank all those who have answered so far. I forwarding these
messages to my friend with wishes that he keep his spirits up as much as he
can as this (in my opinion) will help his wife's morale and keep her
fighting. I did some google research as well but haven't been real helpful.
C&E, do I understand that you have been to this Hospital/Treatment Center?
The question is, was the treatment successful? This lady is a real fighter,
and if any can lick it I know she can.
Thanks again.
Beej

"Greg O" wrote in message
...
"Greg G." wrote in message
...
Beej-in-GA said:

Hi Folks,
First I apologize for this Off Topic post, but my contacts on the West
Coast
are somewhat limited. I have a friend that is looking for anyone who
knows
about the Oasis of Hope Clinic in Tijuana. He's looking for someone
who's
had experience with them. He's rather desperate, his wife, a 10 year
cancer
survivor, has just been diagnosed as terminal. We are in Georgia and he
is
reluctant to expend slender resources on chasing wild fowl. Thanks for
your
patience and assistance.
Best Regards,
Beej

Just my opinion, but I believe that most of these "Treatment Centers"
are scams that prey upon the vain hope of it's victims. They bleed
your wallet dry with false promises of miraculous cures that "The FDA
won't approve in the US". I wouldn't drink the water there, much less
submit to medical treatment. There is a reason they do not operate
within the US - the ones that exist in the states are bad enough.

Of course, there may be exceptions, but I wouldn't expect them to be
located in Mexico... Canada, Germany, France, etc. perhaps...

I am sorry to hear of your friends and their troubles and wish I had
better information to offer. I personally would be more inclined to
do some research, internationally, for possible herbal remedies and
treatments and such. Spend your days comfortable, at home among
family and friends, rather than being ripped off by some swindler
across the border - or for that matter, some swindler... uh...
hospital in the US.

JMHO, FWIW, etc.

Greg G.


You may be right, but I personally know a gent that was diagnosed with
terminal cancer twenty years ago. The doctors told him to get his things
in order because he had only a few months to go. Luckily he had the
resources and the determination not to give up. He spent the better part
of a year in Mexico and beat the cancer. He is still alive and well today!

--
PoorUB
'05 Ultra Classic

Hi Greg,
This is the kind of thing my friend is looking for. Was the fellow you know
treated at Oasis of Hope? If you would like to respond off list, replace
brainboing with mindspring. Thanks for your response.
Regards,
Beej

"Beej-in-GA" wrote in message
k.net...

"Greg O" wrote in message
...
"Greg G." wrote in message
...
Beej-in-GA said:

Hi Folks,
First I apologize for this Off Topic post, but my contacts on the West
Coast
are somewhat limited. I have a friend that is looking for anyone who
knows
about the Oasis of Hope Clinic in Tijuana. He's looking for someone
who's
had experience with them. He's rather desperate, his wife, a 10 year
cancer
survivor, has just been diagnosed as terminal. We are in Georgia and he
is
reluctant to expend slender resources on chasing wild fowl. Thanks for
your
patience and assistance.
Best Regards,
Beej

Just my opinion, but I believe that most of these "Treatment Centers"
are scams that prey upon the vain hope of it's victims. They bleed
your wallet dry with false promises of miraculous cures that "The FDA
won't approve in the US". I wouldn't drink the water there, much less
submit to medical treatment. There is a reason they do not operate
within the US - the ones that exist in the states are bad enough.

Of course, there may be exceptions, but I wouldn't expect them to be
located in Mexico... Canada, Germany, France, etc. perhaps...

I am sorry to hear of your friends and their troubles and wish I had
better information to offer. I personally would be more inclined to
do some research, internationally, for possible herbal remedies and
treatments and such. Spend your days comfortable, at home among
family and friends, rather than being ripped off by some swindler
across the border - or for that matter, some swindler... uh...
hospital in the US.

JMHO, FWIW, etc.

Greg G.


You may be right, but I personally know a gent that was diagnosed with
terminal cancer twenty years ago. The doctors told him to get his things
in order because he had only a few months to go. Luckily he had the
resources and the determination not to give up. He spent the better part
of a year in Mexico and beat the cancer. He is still alive and well
today!

--
PoorUB
'05 Ultra Classic

Hi Greg,
This is the kind of thing my friend is looking for. Was the fellow you
know treated at Oasis of Hope? If you would like to respond off list,
replace brainboing with mindspring. Thanks for your response.
Regards,
Beej


I will see what I can find out.
I believe he is spending the winter down south so I may not be able to
contact him in a timely manor.

--
PoorUB
'05 Ultra Classic

If you want to come to the west coast, City of Hope in Arcadia, Ca (Los
Angeles) is about as good as it gets.

No smoke and mirrors.

Lew

Beej-in-GA said:

Hi Folks,
First I apologize for this Off Topic post, but my contacts on the West Coast
are somewhat limited. I have a friend that is looking for anyone who knows
about the Oasis of Hope Clinic in Tijuana. He's looking for someone who's
had experience with them. He's rather desperate, his wife, a 10 year cancer
survivor, has just been diagnosed as terminal. We are in Georgia and he is
reluctant to expend slender resources on chasing wild fowl. Thanks for your
patience and assistance.
Best Regards,
Beej

While I harbor a healthy suspicion of drug company claims in general,
perhaps you might also consider the studies being performed at the
Oregon Health & Science University, testing an experimental drug,
which is now on the market as Gleevec. Its maker is Novartis.

Dr. Brian Druker, a Howard Hughes investigator at the university's
Cancer Institute, who led the Gleevec study, sees this treatment as a
pioneer effort in a new frontier of science. The treatment is based
not on blasting cancer cells with harsh chemotherapy or radiation but
instead on using a sort of molecular razor to cut them out...

FWIW,

Greg G.

Greg G. said:

While I harbor a healthy suspicion of drug company claims in general,
perhaps you might also consider the studies being performed at the
Oregon Health & Science University, testing an experimental drug,
which is now on the market as Gleevec. Its maker is Novartis.

Dr. Brian Druker, a Howard Hughes investigator at the university's
Cancer Institute, who led the Gleevec study, sees this treatment as a
pioneer effort in a new frontier of science. The treatment is based
not on blasting cancer cells with harsh chemotherapy or radiation but
instead on using a sort of molecular razor to cut them out...

Addendum:

Also, since you didn't state the exact cancer involved, this may or
may not provide any useful information. But since the technology
involved represents a new paradigm for cancer treatment, it is a
matter of time until it is adapted for other patients/cancers.
Brief PR release he
http://www.ohsu.edu/news/2003/031203druker.html

I am not a DMS and the only thing I have a degree in is BS. But...
Traditional chemotherapy involves hammering the body with toxins in an
attempt to effect the mutant cells responsible for the cancer. Until
this point, the cell walls of the cancer have been resistant to
traditional drug targeting, thus resulting in the "poison everything"
approach to cancer treatment - which is the reason many patients
become more weakened from the treatment than the disease. And rarely
is the cancer "cured". The mutant cells are still present in, and
produced by, the body; lying in wait to re-awaken in the future.

This new drug's methodology has apparently been proven able to
penetrate the cell walls of the mutant cancer cells, thus allowing
more precise targeting by other combined drugs. Apparently, however,
each individual's unique genetic predispositions to cancer and
variance in the make up of these genetic flaws can require a tailoring
of the drug to said individual and his/her genetic makeup and
particular cancer. But with currently available technology combined
with automated systems, it's only a matter of time until a doctor will
be able to submit tissue/DNA samples and have a custom engineered drug
delivered to your door - for a price.

FWIW,

Greg G.

"Greg G." wrote in message
...
Greg G. said:

While I harbor a healthy suspicion of drug company claims in general,
perhaps you might also consider the studies being performed at the
Oregon Health & Science University, testing an experimental drug,
which is now on the market as Gleevec. Its maker is Novartis.

Dr. Brian Druker, a Howard Hughes investigator at the university's
Cancer Institute, who led the Gleevec study, sees this treatment as a
pioneer effort in a new frontier of science. The treatment is based
not on blasting cancer cells with harsh chemotherapy or radiation but
instead on using a sort of molecular razor to cut them out...

Addendum:

Also, since you didn't state the exact cancer involved, this may or
may not provide any useful information. But since the technology
involved represents a new paradigm for cancer treatment, it is a
matter of time until it is adapted for other patients/cancers.
Brief PR release he
http://www.ohsu.edu/news/2003/031203druker.html

I am not a DMS and the only thing I have a degree in is BS. But...
Traditional chemotherapy involves hammering the body with toxins in an
attempt to effect the mutant cells responsible for the cancer. Until
this point, the cell walls of the cancer have been resistant to
traditional drug targeting, thus resulting in the "poison everything"
approach to cancer treatment - which is the reason many patients
become more weakened from the treatment than the disease. And rarely
is the cancer "cured". The mutant cells are still present in, and
produced by, the body; lying in wait to re-awaken in the future.

This new drug's methodology has apparently been proven able to
penetrate the cell walls of the mutant cancer cells, thus allowing
more precise targeting by other combined drugs. Apparently, however,
each individual's unique genetic predispositions to cancer and
variance in the make up of these genetic flaws can require a tailoring
of the drug to said individual and his/her genetic makeup and
particular cancer. But with currently available technology combined
with automated systems, it's only a matter of time until a doctor will
be able to submit tissue/DNA samples and have a custom engineered drug
delivered to your door - for a price.

FWIW,

Greg G.
Hi Greg G.
Thanks for your replies to this thread. As you may have noticed from my
previous posts, I am forwarding these on to my friend. I will be doing so
until they peter out, so to speak. :-) I am really impressed with the
response to this call for help. I am also very grateful for all the helpful
replies. On behalf of my friend and his wife, thanks to all for your
continued help and patience.
Best Regards,
Beej

Greg O wrote:

You may be right, but I personally know a gent that was diagnosed with
terminal cancer twenty years ago. The doctors told him to get his
things in order because he had only a few months to go. Luckily he had
the resources and the determination not to give up. He spent the
better part of a year in Mexico and beat the cancer. He is still alive
and well today!

These are the kinds of rare occurrences that the quacks count on.
Something like the "miracles" some clergy espouse.

The diagnosis could have been wrong or spontaneous remission could have
been responsible. Or even the placebo effect, the human mind is a very
powerful, albeit uncontrolled, resource.

--
It's turtles, all the way down

"Beej-in-GA" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Greg G." wrote in message
...
Greg G. said:

While I harbor a healthy suspicion of drug company claims in general,
perhaps you might also consider the studies being performed at the
Oregon Health & Science University, testing an experimental drug,
which is now on the market as Gleevec. Its maker is Novartis.

Dr. Brian Druker, a Howard Hughes investigator at the university's
Cancer Institute, who led the Gleevec study, sees this treatment as a
pioneer effort in a new frontier of science. The treatment is based
not on blasting cancer cells with harsh chemotherapy or radiation but
instead on using a sort of molecular razor to cut them out...

Addendum:

Also, since you didn't state the exact cancer involved, this may or
may not provide any useful information. But since the technology
involved represents a new paradigm for cancer treatment, it is a
matter of time until it is adapted for other patients/cancers.
Brief PR release he
http://www.ohsu.edu/news/2003/031203druker.html

I am not a DMS and the only thing I have a degree in is BS. But...
Traditional chemotherapy involves hammering the body with toxins in an
attempt to effect the mutant cells responsible for the cancer. Until
this point, the cell walls of the cancer have been resistant to
traditional drug targeting, thus resulting in the "poison everything"
approach to cancer treatment - which is the reason many patients
become more weakened from the treatment than the disease. And rarely
is the cancer "cured". The mutant cells are still present in, and
produced by, the body; lying in wait to re-awaken in the future.

This new drug's methodology has apparently been proven able to
penetrate the cell walls of the mutant cancer cells, thus allowing
more precise targeting by other combined drugs. Apparently, however,
each individual's unique genetic predispositions to cancer and
variance in the make up of these genetic flaws can require a tailoring
of the drug to said individual and his/her genetic makeup and
particular cancer. But with currently available technology combined
with automated systems, it's only a matter of time until a doctor will
be able to submit tissue/DNA samples and have a custom engineered drug
delivered to your door - for a price.

FWIW,

Greg G.
Hi Greg G.
Thanks for your replies to this thread. As you may have noticed from my
previous posts, I am forwarding these on to my friend. I will be doing so
until they peter out, so to speak. :-) I am really impressed with the
response to this call for help. I am also very grateful for all the
helpful replies. On behalf of my friend and his wife, thanks to all for
your continued help and patience.
Best Regards,
Beej


This will be of no help to your friend but might be helpful for the rest of
us. An article in the UK guardian concerning US extended period study finds
vitamin D to be a major deterrent to many types of cancer. The normal way we
generate it is by absorbing UV rays through the skin. With the use of SPF
suntan lotions and those areas with low sunlight [northern areas ] cancers
has been more prevalent . To be beneficial the study recommended dose has
been increased to 1000 international units [25 micrograms] per day.....