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Fwd - RFC 4041 - PING: Vito Kuhn
Vito, have you read about RFC 4041 yet?
__________________________________________________ _________ John Henry wrote: hey, Vito. I'm just wondering about your thoughts on the newly promosed Morality Protocol, RFC 4041? Maybe you're not familiar with it...you should really try to implement something like this in your fam.* 'g-rated' hierarchy... ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/rfc4041.txt Network Working Group A. Farrel Request for Comments: 4041 Old Dog Consulting Category: Informational 1 April 2005 Requirements for Morality Sections in Routing Area Drafts Status of This Memo This memo provides information for the Internet community. It does not specify an Internet standard of any kind. Distribution of this memo is unlimited. Copyright Notice Copyright (C) The Internet Society (2005). Abstract It has often been the case that morality has not been given proper consideration in the design and specification of protocols produced within the Routing Area. This has led to a decline in the moral values within the Internet and attempts to retrofit a suitable moral code to implemented and deployed protocols has been shown to be sub-optimal. This document specifies a requirement for all new Routing Area Internet-Drafts to include a "Morality Considerations" section, and gives guidance on what that section should contain. 1. Introduction It is well accepted by popular opinion and other reliable metrics that moral values are declining and that degeneracy is increasing. Young people are particularly at risk from the rising depravity in society and much of the blame can be squarely placed at the door of the Internet. If you do not feel safe on the streets at night, what do you think it is like on the Information Superhighway? When new protocols or protocol extensions are developed within the Routing Area, it is often the case that not enough consideration is given to the impact of the protocol on the moral fiber of the Internet. The result is that moral consequences are only understood once the protocols have been implemented, and sometimes not until after they have been deployed. The resultant attempts to restore appropriate behavior and purge the community of improper activities are not always easy or architecturally pleasant. Further, it is possible that certain protocol designs make morality particularly hard to achieve. Recognising that moral issues are fundamental to the utility and success of protocols designed within the IETF, and that simply making a wishy-washy liberal-minded statement does not necessarily provide adequate guarantees of a correct and proper outcome for society, this document defines requirements for the inclusion of Morality Considerations sections in all Internet-Drafts produced within the Routing Area. Meeting these requirements will ensure that proper consideration is given to moral issues at all stages of the protocol development process, from Requirements and Architecture, through Specification and Applicability. The remainder of this document describes the necessary subsections of the Morality Considerations sections, and gives guidance about what information should be contained in those subsections. 1.1. Conventions Used in This Document The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT", "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and "OPTIONAL" in this document are to be interpreted as described in RFC 2119 [RFC2119]. The key words "SHALT", "SHALT NOT", "SMITE", and "PILLAR OF SALT" in this document are to be interpreted as expected. 2. Presence and Placement of Morality Considerations Sections 2.1. Null Morality Considerations Sections It may be the case that the authors of Internet-Drafts have no or few morals. This does not relieve them of their duty to understand the consequences of their actions. The more likely an author is to say that a null Morality Considerations section is acceptable, the more pressure must be exerted on him by the Area and the appropriate Working Group to ensure that he gives full consideration to his actions, and reflects long and hard on the consequences of his writing and the value of his life. On the other hand, some authors are well known to have the highest moral pedigree: a fact that is plainly obvious from the company they keep, the Working Groups they attend, and their eligibility for NomCom. It is clearly unnecessary for such esteemed persons to waste effort on Morality Considerations sections. It is inconceivable that anything that they write would have anything other than a beneficial effect on the Routing Area and the Internet in general. 2.2. Mandatory Subsections If the Morality Considerations section is present, it MUST contain at least the following subsections. The content of these subsections is surely self-evident to any right-thinking person. Further guidance can be obtained from your moral guardian, your household gods, or from any member of the IMM (Internet Moral Majority). - Likelihood of misuse by depraved or sick individuals. This subsection must fully address the possibility that the proposed protocols or protocol extensions might be used for the distribution of blue, smutty, or plain disgusting images. - Likelihood of misuse by misguided individuals. There is an obvious need to protect minors and people with misguided thought processes from utilising the protocols or protocol extensions for purposes that would inevitably do them harm. - Likelihood of misuse by large, multi-national corporations. Such a thought is, of course, unthinkable. - Availability of oversight facilities. There are those who would corrupt our morals motivated as they are by a hatred of the freedom of Internet access with which we are graced. We place a significant burden of responsibility on those who guard our community from these evil-doers and it is only fitting that we give them as much support as is possible. Therefore, all encryption and obfuscation techniques MUST be excluded - individuals who have nothing to hide need to fear the oversight of those whose morals are beyond doubt. - Inter-SDO impact. We must allow for other moral frameworks and fully respect other people's right to subscribe to other belief systems. Such people are, however, wrong and doomed to spend eternity in a dark corner with only dial-up access. So it has been written. - Care and concern for avian carriers. A duck may be somebody's mother. Even if one or more of these subsections are considered irrelevant, they MUST all still be present, and MUST contain a full rebuttal of this deviant thought. 2.3. Optional Subsections Additional subsections may be added to accommodate zealots. 2.4. Placement of Morality Considerations Sections The Morality Considerations section MUST be given full prominence in each Internet Draft. 3. Applicability Scenarios This section outlines, by way of example, some particular areas that are in dire need of reform and where a short, sharp shock could make a really big difference. 3.1. Provision of Services We must do our utmost to ensure that services are delivered in a timely and reliable way. Emphasis should be placed on Quality of Service (QoS) and meeting the needs of the consumer of the service. Arrangements should be made for regular provision of services, and sermons should be to the point and contain a strong moral message. 3.2. Political Correctness (PC) Political correctness has gone too far. This problem can be traced way back to the 1970s when the desktop PC was invented. It is necessary for Internet-Drafts to observe a form of political correctness, but note that you do not always have to mean what you say. 3.2.1. Differentiated Services Segregation of packets on the grounds of color is now banned and Internet-Drafts must not make use of this technique. If you follow all of the recommendations in this document, you will find that "packets of color" (as we must now refer to them) tend to avoid your points of presence, and you will no longer be troubled by them. 3.2.2. Jumbo Packets It is no longer appropriate to refer to "jumbo packets". Please use the term "capacitorially challenged". 3.2.3. Byte Ordering Note that within Internet-Drafts, bytes (and bits) progress from the left to the right. This is how things should be. 3.3. Protection or Abstinence Much has been made recently of the need to provide protection within the Internet. It is the role of the IMM to determine when protection is required, and the role of the IESG bulldogs to ensure that we are all protected. However, protection is only one way to prevent unplanned outages and, as we all know, the ready availability of protection schemes such as 1:1 (one-on-one) or 1:n (orgy-mode) have lead to a belief that it is acceptable to switch (or swing) at will. It should be noted that protection can fail, and under no circumstances should extra traffic be countenanced. In reality, the only safe way to avoid passing data to your friends is to agree to pledge to have no control plane before marriage. Join our campaign and sign up for the SONET Ring Thing. 3.4. Promiscuity Various disgusting protocols indulge in promiscuity. This appears to happen most often when an operator is unwilling to select a single partner and wants to play the field. Promiscuous modes of operation are an abomination, exceeded only by multicast. 4. Terminology Admission Control The caring investigative arm of the IMM. Doom Port 666. Need we say more? ECMP What is this? Some kind of Communism? Money The root of all evil. MPLS What is with this "layer two-and-a-half" nonsense? The world is flat, just accept the fact. Packet Switching Sounds like fraud to me. Path The route of all LSPs. Policy Control The administrative arm of the IMM. Random Walk Substance abuse is to be avoided. Rendezvous Point Poorly lit street corner. Not to be confused with the root of all multicast. Standard Body What we should all strive for. Strawberry Ice Cream Something that wills the void between rational discussion and all-out thermo nuclear war [SCREAM]. 5. Morality Considerations The moral pedigree of the author of this document places him and his writings beyond question. 6. IANA Considerations IANA should think carefully about the protection of their immortal souls. 7. Security Considerations Security is of the utmost importance. A secure Internet community will ensure the security of all of its members. 8. Acknowledgements I would like to thank my guru Alex Dipandra-Zinin. Jozef Wroblewski, who clearly knows promiscuous behavior when he sees it, pointed out some of the dangers in promiscuous operation. No avian carriers were harmed in the production of this document. 9. Intellectual Property Considerations Property is theft. What is yours is mine. What is mine, you keep your hands off. 10. Normative References I don't need to be told how to formulate my morals. [RFC2119] Bradner, S., "Key words for use in RFCs to Indicate Requirement Levels", BCP 14, RFC 2119, March 1997. 11. Informative References To be frank, I don't find many other documents informative. [SCREAM] Farrel, A., "Observations on Proposing Protocol Enhancements that Address Stated Requirements but also go Further by Meeting more General Needs", Work in Progress, June 2003. Author's Address Adrian Farrel Old Dog Consulting Phone: I'm not telling you that. Why do you ask, anyway? EMail: Full Copyright Statement Copyright (C) The Internet Society (2005). This document is subject to the rights, licenses and restrictions contained in BCP 78 and at www.rfc-editor.org/copyright.html, and except as set forth therein, the authors retain all their rights. This document and the information contained herein are provided on an "AS IS" basis and THE CONTRIBUTOR, THE ORGANIZATION HE/SHE REPRESENTS OR IS SPONSORED BY (IF ANY), THE INTERNET SOCIETY AND THE INTERNET ENGINEERING TASK FORCE DISCLAIM ALL WARRANTIES, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO ANY WARRANTY THAT THE USE OF THE INFORMATION HEREIN WILL NOT INFRINGE ANY RIGHTS OR ANY IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY OR FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. Intellectual Property The IETF takes no position regarding the validity or scope of any Intellectual Property Rights or other rights that might be claimed to pertain to the implementation or use of the technology described in this document or the extent to which any license under such rights might or might not be available; nor does it represent that it has made any independent effort to identify any such rights. Information on the procedures with respect to rights in RFC documents can be found in BCP 78 and BCP 79. Copies of IPR disclosures made to the IETF Secretariat and any assurances of licenses to be made available, or the result of an attempt made to obtain a general license or permission for the use of such proprietary rights by implementers or users of this specification can be obtained from the IETF on-line IPR repository at http://www.ietf.org/ipr. The IETF invites any interested party to bring to its attention any copyrights, patents or patent applications, or other proprietary rights that may cover technology that may be required to implement this standard. Please address the information to the IETF at ietf- . Acknowledgement Funding for the RFC Editor function is currently provided by the Internet Society. __________________________________________________ _________ [Sevgb-sebhcyvar hcqngrq] -- Sean Monaghan http://www.Kookology.info Winner of the Pierre Salinger Memorial HL&S Award To e-mail me, change the zeros (00) to letters (oo) in my addy. |
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John Henry wrote:
hey, Vito. I'm just wondering about your thoughts on the newly promosed Morality Protocol, RFC 4041? Maybe you're not familiar with it...you should really try to implement something like this in your fam.* 'g-rated' hierarchy... Why are you SO against a small hierarchy that can be compared to a G rated movie? Do you want the motion picture industry to abandon the rating system? ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/rfc4041.txt It is well accepted by popular opinion and other reliable metrics that moral values are declining and that degeneracy is increasing. I am 100% in agreement. Decent folks with respectable values are becoming a minority in this world. Young people are particularly at risk from the rising depravity in society and much of the blame can be squarely placed at the door of the Internet. I agree. Specifically on usenet, the troll culture alone has had a tremendously negative effect. Combine that with all the pornography, spam, scams and frauds on the internet and you have a VERY big mess that is in need of a thorough cleaning. VK |
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X-No-Archive: YES
Ross has offered into testimony Chadwick Stone© pulled a bright blue crayon out of the box and scribbled this in m: X-No-Archive: YES Vito Kuhn has offered into testimony John Henry wrote: hey, Vito. I'm just wondering about your thoughts on the newly promosed Morality Protocol, RFC 4041? Maybe you're not familiar with it...you should really try to implement something like this in your fam.* 'g-rated' hierarchy... Why are you SO against a small hierarchy that can be compared to a G rated movie? Do you want the motion picture industry to abandon the rating system? I, as well as much of Usenet wants to see you grow up and accept the fact that people ****ing curse from time to time, Frito, you ****ing deluded pig. I expect Vito to substitute "*"s for vowels in some of the words in your previous sentence. Thats okay, I can f1x0r anything he butchers  ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/rfc4041.txt It is well accepted by popular opinion and other reliable metrics that moral values are declining and that degeneracy is increasing. I am 100% in agreement. Decent folks with respectable values are becoming a minority in this world. By whose standards to you deign to claim that you are decent and someone else isn't, Frito? I suspect he will ignore this very vital question. I've asked io a number of times and I've been met with a very telling silence. Frito doesn't respond to Q&A very well, unless he views avoidance and misdirection appropriate discussion/debate tools. Young people are particularly at risk from the rising depravity in society and much of the blame can be squarely placed at the door of the Internet. I agree. Specifically on usenet, the troll culture alone has had a tremendously negative effect. Combine that with all the pornography, spam, scams and frauds on the internet and you have a VERY big mess that is in need of a thorough cleaning. Bull****, Usenet is a playground and it is the parent's responsibility to moderate Internet utilization, not yours. I don't know if Vito has children, yet, but I sense a desire on his part to give his off-spring (future or present) an internet play-pen where he doesn't have to monitor them. Seen it before and it is not very productive. Clearly, there is a lot of information out there that Frito will find offensive, just because he wants to make a playpen doesn't mean he can confine the poor souls saddled with his parenthood, to said playpen. If Vito is concerned about, say, pornography and he keeps his young son in a context where it is not accessible, that is fine until Junior starts opening his world to where it is available. By the time he will be a teenager, he will probably be sexually curious and it would be much more productive to discuss this before the child approaches this age. After all, the average 13 year-old can find Internet porn outside of Usenet that would give poor Vito a heart attack. The best way Frito can prevent any children he has from turning into perverts is to be a father instead of a censor. Tell a child "no" enough times and eventually the child will go around you. All in all, it is best to educate a child about the world -- the good, the bad and the ugly -- instead of trying to pretend that s/he can be insulated from it. Indeed. Ultimately children decide for themselves, eventually you aren't going to tell them what content is wholesome, and it's a fact of life that they will run into unwholesome content. If you make a big deal about it it's almost guaranteed that they will seek it out. If you want a moderated environment then get yourself a smarmy widdle PHP forum where you can play censorboi to your hearts desire, all the time pretending that others aren't capable of ignoring that which k0oKs like *YOU* deem offensive. Your phony dedication to creating an environment where you impose your standards upon someone else's children doesn't fool me one bit. I think he sees himself as a 21st century Elijah. Unfortunately for Vito, others have tried the shtick of pointing out everyone else's 'moral short comings' -- all with about the same success as Vito. A quick refresher on the opening of Matthew, Chapter 7 would be instructive. I don't trust people like Frito to interpret the Bible. The literalist interprations of scripture are what leads to witchhunts, crusades, jihads, and other crimes against humanity. My children see you the same as the greater majority, a control freak and a k0oK who will eventually wind up in a rest home; wearing a shawl, rocking incessantly in front of the "staring window." I think Vito is on the fast-track to this chair. Yup! -- Chadwick Stone© Formerly the AFA-B Sovereign Sockpuppet© March 2005, Hammer of Thor recipient No longer anonymous but still immune Usenet's most helpful netizen SovereignSockpuppet at Yahoo dot com Benevolent Order of the Pointy Stick Skepticult® ID: 581-00504-208 A mean and nasty ******* I am the New World Order |
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Vito Kuhn pulled a bright blue crayon out of the box and scribbled this in
: "Russell Miller" wrote: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 NotDashEscaped: You need GnuPG to verify this message ["Followup-To:" header set to alt.usenet.kooks.] On 2005-06-08, Vito Kuhn wrote: I am 100% in agreement. Decent folks with respectable values are becoming a minority in this world. What the f*ck are you talking about? I agree. Specifically on usenet, the troll culture alone has had a tremendously negative effect. Combine that with all the pornography, spam, scams and frauds on the internet and you have a VERY big mess that is in need of a thorough cleaning. Actually, I agree with respect to spam, scams, and fraud. But I kinda LIKE porn. So... f*ck that. ;-) I misjudged you by a mile. You're a low life swine like Ross... bows humbly To be litsed by a kook like Vito is a blessing. ...Art Deco, Chadwick Stone, Aratsio, Sean Monaghan, John Henry and the rest of the stooges. Lucky for you the Lord loves all his creatures equally, even your kind. Your 'Lord', huh? I will pray for you. Ain't that sweet. -- Go not to Usenet for counsel, for they will say both yes and no. |
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"Ross" wrote:
Vito Kuhn pulled a bright blue crayon out of the box and scribbled this in : "Russell Miller" wrote: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 NotDashEscaped: You need GnuPG to verify this message ["Followup-To:" header set to alt.usenet.kooks.] On 2005-06-08, Vito Kuhn wrote: I am 100% in agreement. Decent folks with respectable values are becoming a minority in this world. What the f*ck are you talking about? I agree. Specifically on usenet, the troll culture alone has had a tremendously negative effect. Combine that with all the pornography, spam, scams and frauds on the internet and you have a VERY big mess that is in need of a thorough cleaning. Actually, I agree with respect to spam, scams, and fraud. But I kinda LIKE porn. So... f*ck that. ;-) I misjudged you by a mile. You're a low life swine like Ross... bows humbly To be litsed by a kook like Vito is a blessing. Is your spell checker out of order, or is that troll jargon? Probably the latter, judging from your comments in the rec.arts."URBAN-POETRY" discussion. ...Art Deco, Chadwick Stone, Aratsio, Sean Monaghan, John Henry and the rest of the stooges. Lucky for you the Lord loves all his creatures equally, even your kind. Your 'Lord', huh? The Lord of all life, not only me. I will pray for you. Ain't that sweet. I was addressing Mr. Miller. I stopped praying for you a while ago, Peter. VK |
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Ross wrote:
Vito Kuhn pulled a bright blue crayon out of the box and scribbled this in : "Russell Miller" wrote: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 NotDashEscaped: You need GnuPG to verify this message ["Followup-To:" header set to alt.usenet.kooks.] On 2005-06-08, Vito Kuhn wrote: I am 100% in agreement. Decent folks with respectable values are becoming a minority in this world. What the f*ck are you talking about? I agree. Specifically on usenet, the troll culture alone has had a tremendously negative effect. Combine that with all the pornography, spam, scams and frauds on the internet and you have a VERY big mess that is in need of a thorough cleaning. Actually, I agree with respect to spam, scams, and fraud. But I kinda LIKE porn. So... f*ck that. ;-) I misjudged you by a mile. You're a low life swine like Ross... bows humbly To be litsed by a kook like Vito is a blessing. ...Art Deco, Chadwick Stone, Aratsio, Sean Monaghan, John Henry and the rest of the stooges. Lucky for you the Lord loves all his creatures equally, even your kind. Your 'Lord', huh? Yes! Congratulations on your numba one ranking on the lits, Ross. At least I made numba two. Without trying very hard, actually, I think I've poasted to Vito threads just a handfull of times. I do recall one Vito reply early on in which he leaped to a wild judgement of my moral character based solely on my name. Quite amusing, really. I will pray for you. Thanks, and a tip o' the 50-gallon sombrer0 to you, Vito. Ain't that sweet. Life is good! -- Official Associate AFA-B Vote Rustler http://www.insurgent.org/~kook-faq/alexa/socks.html http://www.petitmorte.net/cujo/kazoo/kazoo.html "We don't live on "islands". The name of my home-world is Manda." -- Charles D. "Chuckweasel" Bohne |
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Vito Kuhn wrote:
"Ross" wrote: Vito Kuhn pulled a bright blue crayon out of the box and scribbled this in : "Russell Miller" wrote: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 NotDashEscaped: You need GnuPG to verify this message ["Followup-To:" header set to alt.usenet.kooks.] On 2005-06-08, Vito Kuhn wrote: I am 100% in agreement. Decent folks with respectable values are becoming a minority in this world. What the f*ck are you talking about? I agree. Specifically on usenet, the troll culture alone has had a tremendously negative effect. Combine that with all the pornography, spam, scams and frauds on the internet and you have a VERY big mess that is in need of a thorough cleaning. Actually, I agree with respect to spam, scams, and fraud. But I kinda LIKE porn. So... f*ck that. ;-) I misjudged you by a mile. You're a low life swine like Ross... bows humbly To be litsed by a kook like Vito is a blessing. Is your spell checker out of order, or is that troll jargon? Probably the latter, judging from your comments in the rec.arts."URBAN-POETRY" discussion. Free cloo, Vito: being litsed is a high honor. ...Art Deco, Chadwick Stone, Aratsio, Sean Monaghan, John Henry and the rest of the stooges. Lucky for you the Lord loves all his creatures equally, even your kind. Your 'Lord', huh? The Lord of all life, not only me. I will pray for you. Ain't that sweet. I was addressing Mr. Miller. I stopped praying for you a while ago, Peter. Suffering from attribution problems, Vito? VK -- Official Associate AFA-B Vote Rustler http://www.insurgent.org/~kook-faq/alexa/socks.html http://www.petitmorte.net/cujo/kazoo/kazoo.html "We don't live on "islands". The name of my home-world is Manda." -- Charles D. "Chuckweasel" Bohne |
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Art Deco wrote:
Ross wrote: Vito Kuhn pulled a bright blue crayon out of the box and scribbled this in : "Russell Miller" wrote: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 NotDashEscaped: You need GnuPG to verify this message ["Followup-To:" header set to alt.usenet.kooks.] On 2005-06-08, Vito Kuhn wrote: I am 100% in agreement. Decent folks with respectable values are becoming a minority in this world. What the f*ck are you talking about? I agree. Specifically on usenet, the troll culture alone has had a tremendously negative effect. Combine that with all the pornography, spam, scams and frauds on the internet and you have a VERY big mess that is in need of a thorough cleaning. Actually, I agree with respect to spam, scams, and fraud. But I kinda LIKE porn. So... f*ck that. ;-) I misjudged you by a mile. You're a low life swine like Ross... bows humbly To be litsed by a kook like Vito is a blessing. ...Art Deco, Chadwick Stone, Aratsio, Sean Monaghan Praise teh Frito for the honourable mention. , John Henry and the rest of the stooges. Lucky for you the Lord loves all his creatures equally, even your kind. Your 'Lord', huh? Yes! Congratulations on your numba one ranking on the lits, Ross. At least I made numba two. Without trying very hard, actually, I think I've poasted to Vito threads just a handfull of times. I do recall one Vito reply early on in which he leaped to a wild judgement of my moral character based solely on my name. Quite amusing, really. tholenOn what basis do you make that claim, Deco?/tholen Have you forgotten? You were one of the original three stooges - along with Chadwick Stone and myself, IIRC. I will pray for you. Thanks, and a tip o' the 50-gallon sombrer0 to you, Vito. Ain't that sweet. Life is good! IAWTP!!!!!1!!! -- Sean Monaghan http://www.Kookology.info Winner of the Pierre Salinger Memorial HL&S Award To e-mail me, change the zeros (00) to letters (oo) in my addy. |
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Vito Kuhn pulled a bright blue crayon out of the box and scribbled this
in : "Ross" wrote: Vito Kuhn pulled a bright blue crayon out of the box and scribbled this in : [...] I misjudged you by a mile. You're a low life swine like Ross... bows humbly To be litsed by a kook like Vito is a blessing. Is your spell checker out of order, or is that troll jargon? Probably the latter, judging from your comments in the rec.arts."URBAN-POETRY" discussion. Obviously clueless as to the ways of Usenet. ....and when did I post into a rec.art group? ...Art Deco, Chadwick Stone, Aratsio, Sean Monaghan, John Henry and the rest of the stooges. Lucky for you the Lord loves all his creatures equally, even your kind. Your 'Lord', huh? The Lord of all life, not only me. DO we need to go back to the basics again, Vito? It is your conception of God, which can hardly be taken as objective. I will pray for you. Ain't that sweet. I was addressing Mr. Miller.... You listed me in you 'list of hate', Vito. I reserve the right to comment if you use my name. I stopped praying for you a while ago, Peter. Ah, I see clearly now.... You still have me confused with PJR. Invest in a clue, Vito, before you become Almighty Moderator of your own corner of Usenet. -- Go not to Usenet for counsel, for they will say both yes and no. |
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Art Deco pulled a bright blue crayon out of the box and scribbled this
in : Vito Kuhn wrote: "Ross" wrote: Vito Kuhn pulled a bright blue crayon out of the box and scribbled this in : [...] I will pray for you. Ain't that sweet. I was addressing Mr. Miller. I stopped praying for you a while ago, Peter. Suffering from attribution problems, Vito? Classic arrogance, as to be expected from one who believes himself to be superior. R. -- Go not to Usenet for counsel, for they will say both yes and no. |
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"Ross" wrote:
Vito Kuhn pulled a bright blue crayon out of the box and scribbled this in : "Ross" wrote: Vito Kuhn pulled a bright blue crayon out of the box and scribbled this in : [...] I misjudged you by a mile. You're a low life swine like Ross... bows humbly To be litsed by a kook like Vito is a blessing. Is your spell checker out of order, or is that troll jargon? Probably the latter, judging from your comments in the rec.arts."URBAN-POETRY" discussion. Obviously clueless as to the ways of Usenet. ...and when did I post into a rec.art group? Nobody is falling for your sales pitch routine, you immature troll. You know what I'm talking about, when you followed me into news.groups a few days ago. Do your parents know that you are a cyber stalker? I reckon they don't or they wouldn't allow you to use their computer. VK |
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On 9 Jun 2005 18:19:07 +0200, "Vito Kuhn" ,
wrote: "Ross" wrote: Vito Kuhn pulled a bright blue crayon out of the box and scribbled this in : "Russell Miller" wrote: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 NotDashEscaped: You need GnuPG to verify this message ["Followup-To:" header set to alt.usenet.kooks.] On 2005-06-08, Vito Kuhn wrote: I am 100% in agreement. Decent folks with respectable values are becoming a minority in this world. What the f*ck are you talking about? I agree. Specifically on usenet, the troll culture alone has had a tremendously negative effect. Combine that with all the pornography, spam, scams and frauds on the internet and you have a VERY big mess that is in need of a thorough cleaning. Actually, I agree with respect to spam, scams, and fraud. But I kinda LIKE porn. So... f*ck that. ;-) I misjudged you by a mile. You're a low life swine like Ross... bows humbly To be litsed by a kook like Vito is a blessing. Is your spell checker out of order, or is that troll jargon? Probably the latter, judging from your comments in the rec.arts."URBAN-POETRY" discussion. Hi Vito the kook! Congratulations on destroying AUK just like you said. How could they ever predict you would pull the "run away and hide" death maneuver to wipe them all out? ...Art Deco, Chadwick Stone, Aratsio, Sean Monaghan, John Henry and the rest of the stooges. Lucky for you the Lord loves all his creatures equally, even your kind. Your 'Lord', huh? The Lord of all life, not only me. Guess what? Your "Lord of all Life" needs to stick you back up his ass to cook a little longer. I will pray for you. Ain't that sweet. I was addressing Mr. Miller. I stopped praying for you a while ago, Peter. I'm Peter too! I would appreciate being added to all your future litses. (ooops! My spell check keeps missing that word.) Jade VK |
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Sean Monaghan wrote:
Art Deco wrote: Ross wrote: Vito Kuhn pulled a bright blue crayon out of the box and scribbled this in : "Russell Miller" wrote: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 NotDashEscaped: You need GnuPG to verify this message ["Followup-To:" header set to alt.usenet.kooks.] On 2005-06-08, Vito Kuhn wrote: I am 100% in agreement. Decent folks with respectable values are becoming a minority in this world. What the f*ck are you talking about? I agree. Specifically on usenet, the troll culture alone has had a tremendously negative effect. Combine that with all the pornography, spam, scams and frauds on the internet and you have a VERY big mess that is in need of a thorough cleaning. Actually, I agree with respect to spam, scams, and fraud. But I kinda LIKE porn. So... f*ck that. ;-) I misjudged you by a mile. You're a low life swine like Ross... bows humbly To be litsed by a kook like Vito is a blessing. ...Art Deco, Chadwick Stone, Aratsio, Sean Monaghan Praise teh Frito for the honourable mention. , John Henry and the rest of the stooges. Lucky for you the Lord loves all his creatures equally, even your kind. Your 'Lord', huh? Yes! Congratulations on your numba one ranking on the lits, Ross. At least I made numba two. Without trying very hard, actually, I think I've poasted to Vito threads just a handfull of times. I do recall one Vito reply early on in which he leaped to a wild judgement of my moral character based solely on my name. Quite amusing, really. tholenOn what basis do you make that claim, Deco?/tholen What does that have to do with woodworking, Monaghan? Have you forgotten? You were one of the original three stooges - along with Chadwick Stone and myself, IIRC. You may be right, I have forgotten that completely. I will pray for you. Thanks, and a tip o' the 50-gallon sombrer0 to you, Vito. Ain't that sweet. Life is good! IAWTP!!!!!1!!! MORE LITS!!!!!2!!! -- Official Associate AFA-B Vote Rustler http://www.insurgent.org/~kook-faq/alexa/socks.html http://www.petitmorte.net/cujo/kazoo/kazoo.html "We don't live on "islands". The name of my home-world is Manda." -- Charles D. "Chuckweasel" Bohne |
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Ross wrote:
Art Deco pulled a bright blue crayon out of the box and scribbled this in : Vito Kuhn wrote: "Ross" wrote: Vito Kuhn pulled a bright blue crayon out of the box and scribbled this in : [...] I will pray for you. Ain't that sweet. I was addressing Mr. Miller. I stopped praying for you a while ago, Peter. Suffering from attribution problems, Vito? Classic arrogance, as to be expected from one who believes himself to be superior. Classic astute observation, Ross. -- Official Associate AFA-B Vote Rustler http://www.insurgent.org/~kook-faq/alexa/socks.html http://www.petitmorte.net/cujo/kazoo/kazoo.html "We don't live on "islands". The name of my home-world is Manda." -- Charles D. "Chuckweasel" Bohne |
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Vito Kuhn wrote:
"Ross" wrote: Vito Kuhn pulled a bright blue crayon out of the box and scribbled this in : "Ross" wrote: Vito Kuhn pulled a bright blue crayon out of the box and scribbled this in : [...] I misjudged you by a mile. You're a low life swine like Ross... bows humbly To be litsed by a kook like Vito is a blessing. Is your spell checker out of order, or is that troll jargon? Probably the latter, judging from your comments in the rec.arts."URBAN-POETRY" discussion. Obviously clueless as to the ways of Usenet. ...and when did I post into a rec.art group? Nobody is falling for your sales pitch routine, you immature troll. You know what I'm talking about, when you followed me into news.groups a few days ago. Do your parents know that you are a cyber stalker? I reckon they don't or they wouldn't allow you to use their computer. Cyber stalker! Vito hauls out the big gunz now. -- Official Associate AFA-B Vote Rustler http://www.insurgent.org/~kook-faq/alexa/socks.html http://www.petitmorte.net/cujo/kazoo/kazoo.html "We don't live on "islands". The name of my home-world is Manda." -- Charles D. "Chuckweasel" Bohne |
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Vito Kuhn pulled a bright blue crayon out of the box and scribbled this in
: "Ross" wrote: Vito Kuhn pulled a bright blue crayon out of the box and scribbled this in : "Ross" wrote: Vito Kuhn pulled a bright blue crayon out of the box and scribbled this in : [...] I misjudged you by a mile. You're a low life swine like Ross... bows humbly To be litsed by a kook like Vito is a blessing. Is your spell checker out of order, or is that troll jargon? Probably the latter, judging from your comments in the rec.arts."URBAN-POETRY" discussion. Obviously clueless as to the ways of Usenet. ...and when did I post into a rec.art group? Nobody is falling for your sales pitch routine, you immature troll. You know what I'm talking about, when you followed me into news.groups a few days ago. Do your parents know that you are a cyber stalker? I reckon they don't or they wouldn't allow you to use their computer. Oh My Goodness! It's June already and that means it IS my turn to be PJR. My apologies to the CABAL (tinc) and thanks to those who covered for me in my negligence! -- Go not to Usenet for counsel, for they will say both yes and no. |
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Ross has offered into testimony Vito Kuhn pulled a bright blue crayon out of the box and scribbled this in : "Ross" wrote: Vito Kuhn pulled a bright blue crayon out of the box and scribbled this in : "Ross" wrote: Vito Kuhn pulled a bright blue crayon out of the box and scribbled this in : [...] I misjudged you by a mile. You're a low life swine like Ross... bows humbly To be litsed by a kook like Vito is a blessing. Is your spell checker out of order, or is that troll jargon? Probably the latter, judging from your comments in the rec.arts."URBAN-POETRY" discussion. Obviously clueless as to the ways of Usenet. ...and when did I post into a rec.art group? Nobody is falling for your sales pitch routine, you immature troll. You know what I'm talking about, when you followed me into news.groups a few days ago. Do your parents know that you are a cyber stalker? I reckon they don't or they wouldn't allow you to use their computer. Oh My Goodness! It's June already and that means it IS my turn to be PJR. My apologies to the CABAL (tinc) and thanks to those who covered for me in my negligence! Well, as this month's PJR, will you be founding a new k0oK award worthy to carry the name of and commemorate the solemn... er sullen kontributions of "Frito Kuhnt?" -- Chadwick Stone© Formerly the AFA-B Sovereign Sockpuppet© March 2005, Hammer of Thor recipient No longer anonymous but still immune Usenet's most helpful netizen SovereignSockpuppet at Yahoo dot com Benevolent Order of the Pointy Stick Skepticult® ID: 581-00504-208 A mean and nasty ******* I am the New World Order |
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Chadwick Stone© pulled a bright blue crayon out of the box and scribbled
this in : X-No-Archive: YES Ross has offered into testimony Vito Kuhn pulled a bright blue crayon out of the box and scribbled this in : "Ross" wrote: Vito Kuhn pulled a bright blue crayon out of the box and scribbled this in : "Ross" wrote: Vito Kuhn pulled a bright blue crayon out of the box and scribbled this in : [...] I misjudged you by a mile. You're a low life swine like Ross... bows humbly To be litsed by a kook like Vito is a blessing. Is your spell checker out of order, or is that troll jargon? Probably the latter, judging from your comments in the rec.arts."URBAN-POETRY" discussion. Obviously clueless as to the ways of Usenet. ...and when did I post into a rec.art group? Nobody is falling for your sales pitch routine, you immature troll. You know what I'm talking about, when you followed me into news.groups a few days ago. Do your parents know that you are a cyber stalker? I reckon they don't or they wouldn't allow you to use their computer. Oh My Goodness! It's June already and that means it IS my turn to be PJR. My apologies to the CABAL (tinc) and thanks to those who covered for me in my negligence! Well, as this month's PJR, will you be founding a new k0oK award worthy to carry the name of and commemorate the solemn... er sullen kontributions of "Frito Kuhnt?" I'll get to that as soon as I can. The previous PJR left the FNVW Office in a dreadful state and it's going to take weeks to clean up and organize the files. It would be so bad, but I keep finding underwear in the filing cabinets. -- Go not to Usenet for counsel, for they will say both yes and no. |
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On Thursday 09 June 2005, Vito Kuhn wrote in alt.usenet.kooks:
"Ross" wrote: Vito Kuhn pulled a bright blue crayon out of the box and scribbled this in : "Russell Miller" wrote: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 NotDashEscaped: You need GnuPG to verify this message ["Followup-To:" header set to alt.usenet.kooks.] On 2005-06-08, Vito Kuhn wrote: I am 100% in agreement. Decent folks with respectable values are becoming a minority in this world. What the f*ck are you talking about? I agree. Specifically on usenet, the troll culture alone has had a tremendously negative effect. Combine that with all the pornography, spam, scams and frauds on the internet and you have a VERY big mess that is in need of a thorough cleaning. Actually, I agree with respect to spam, scams, and fraud. But I kinda LIKE porn. So... f*ck that. ;-) I misjudged you by a mile. You're a low life swine like Ross... bows humbly To be litsed by a kook like Vito is a blessing. Is your spell checker out of order, or is that troll jargon? Probably the latter, judging from your comments in the rec.arts."URBAN-POETRY" discussion. Um... I'm the one who contributed to that discussion, Frito. The RFD was crossposted to a group I've been reading since the day I fist discovered Usenet, so I made a couple of relevant remarks. ...Art Deco, Chadwick Stone, Aratsio, Sean Monaghan, John Henry and the rest of the stooges. Lucky for you the Lord loves all his creatures equally, even your kind. Your 'Lord', huh? The Lord of all life, not only me. I will pray for you. Ain't that sweet. I was addressing Mr. Miller. I stopped praying for you a while ago, Peter. VK PJ "troll, troll, troll your boat, down in news.groups" R :-) -- alt.usenet.kooks award-winners and FAQ: http://www.insurgent.org/~kook-faq/ [To reply by email, remove "NOSPAM".] |
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John Henry pulled a bright blue crayon out of the box and scribbled this in
. 3.44: I just want to take a second and point out the obvious: Vito is agreeing with an RFC that was written as a joke specifically to parody idiots like him. That is all. You mean an RFC that was dated April 1st isn't to be taken seriously? Who da thunk it? Vito is such an easy trollee. R. -- Go not to Usenet for counsel, for they will say both yes and no. |
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Ross has offered into testimony John Henry pulled a bright blue crayon out of the box and scribbled this in . 3.44: I just want to take a second and point out the obvious: Vito is agreeing with an RFC that was written as a joke specifically to parody idiots like him. That is all. You mean an RFC that was dated April 1st isn't to be taken seriously? Who da thunk it? Vito is such an easy trollee. Say it ain't so! -- Chadwick Stone© Formerly the AFA-B Sovereign Sockpuppet© March 2005, Hammer of Thor recipient No longer anonymous but still immune Usenet's most helpful netizen SovereignSockpuppet at Yahoo dot com Benevolent Order of the Pointy Stick Skepticult® ID: 581-00504-208 A mean and nasty ******* I am the New World Order |
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On Thursday 09 June 2005, Ross wrote in alt.usenet.kooks:
Chadwick Stone© pulled a bright blue crayon out of the box and scribbled this in : X-No-Archive: YES Ross has offered into testimony Vito Kuhn pulled a bright blue crayon out of the box and scribbled this in : "Ross" wrote: Vito Kuhn pulled a bright blue crayon out of the box and scribbled this in : "Ross" wrote: Vito Kuhn pulled a bright blue crayon out of the box and scribbled this in : [...] I misjudged you by a mile. You're a low life swine like Ross... bows humbly To be litsed by a kook like Vito is a blessing. Is your spell checker out of order, or is that troll jargon? Probably the latter, judging from your comments in the rec.arts."URBAN-POETRY" discussion. Obviously clueless as to the ways of Usenet. ...and when did I post into a rec.art group? Nobody is falling for your sales pitch routine, you immature troll. You know what I'm talking about, when you followed me into news.groups a few days ago. Do your parents know that you are a cyber stalker? I reckon they don't or they wouldn't allow you to use their computer. Oh My Goodness! It's June already and that means it IS my turn to be PJR. My apologies to the CABAL (tinc) and thanks to those who covered for me in my negligence! Well, as this month's PJR, will you be founding a new k0oK award worthy to carry the name of and commemorate the solemn... er sullen kontributions of "Frito Kuhnt?" I'll get to that as soon as I can. The previous PJR left the FNVW Office in a dreadful state and it's going to take weeks to clean up and organize the files. It would be so bad, but I keep finding underwear in the filing cabinets. jet kept asking me in private email what I'd done with her underwear, but you've found it at last! Happy vote wrangling, me! PJR :-) -- alt.usenet.kooks award-winners and FAQ: http://www.insurgent.org/~kook-faq/ [To reply by email, remove "NOSPAM".] |
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On Thu, 09 Jun 2005 13:53:24 -0600, Art Deco
wrote: Vito Kuhn wrote: "Ross" wrote: Vito Kuhn pulled a bright blue crayon out of the box and scribbled this in : "Ross" wrote: Vito Kuhn pulled a bright blue crayon out of the box and scribbled this in : [...] I misjudged you by a mile. You're a low life swine like Ross... bows humbly To be litsed by a kook like Vito is a blessing. Is your spell checker out of order, or is that troll jargon? Probably the latter, judging from your comments in the rec.arts."URBAN-POETRY" discussion. Obviously clueless as to the ways of Usenet. ...and when did I post into a rec.art group? Nobody is falling for your sales pitch routine, you immature troll. You know what I'm talking about, when you followed me into news.groups a few days ago. Do your parents know that you are a cyber stalker? I reckon they don't or they wouldn't allow you to use their computer. Cyber stalker! Vito hauls out the big gunz now. Can Frito teh Kunt-troll freak even deline what a "cyber stalker' supposedly is, aside from a person that makes fun of Kuhntroll freaks? ESL! -- Bookman -The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in AFA-B Kazoo Konspirator #668 (The Neighbor of the Beast) Clue-Bat Wrangler Keeper of the Nickname Lists Despotic Kookologist of the New World Order "I'd love to kill you in a ring" - Bartmo gets all touchy-feely "****SPV....... So yes I am an idiot." http://www.insurgent.org/~kook*-faq/afa-b/ http://www.insurgent.org/~kook*-faq/afa-b/index.html |
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Bookman wrote:
On Thu, 09 Jun 2005 13:53:24 -0600, Art Deco wrote: Vito Kuhn wrote: "Ross" wrote: Vito Kuhn pulled a bright blue crayon out of the box and scribbled this in : "Ross" wrote: Vito Kuhn pulled a bright blue crayon out of the box and scribbled this in : [...] I misjudged you by a mile. You're a low life swine like Ross... bows humbly To be litsed by a kook like Vito is a blessing. Is your spell checker out of order, or is that troll jargon? Probably the latter, judging from your comments in the rec.arts."URBAN-POETRY" discussion. Obviously clueless as to the ways of Usenet. ...and when did I post into a rec.art group? Nobody is falling for your sales pitch routine, you immature troll. You know what I'm talking about, when you followed me into news.groups a few days ago. Do your parents know that you are a cyber stalker? I reckon they don't or they wouldn't allow you to use their computer. Cyber stalker! Vito hauls out the big gunz now. Can Frito teh Kunt-troll freak even deline what a "cyber stalker' supposedly is, aside from a person that makes fun of Kuhntroll freaks? Let me guess -- anyone that doesn't buy into his censored usenet visions? -- Official Associate AFA-B Vote Rustler http://www.insurgent.org/~kook-faq/alexa/socks.html http://www.petitmorte.net/cujo/kazoo/kazoo.html "We don't live on "islands". The name of my home-world is Manda." -- Charles D. "Chuckweasel" Bohne |
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On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 09:28:28 -0600, Art Deco
wrote: Bookman wrote: On Thu, 09 Jun 2005 13:53:24 -0600, Art Deco wrote: Vito Kuhn wrote: "Ross" wrote: Vito Kuhn pulled a bright blue crayon out of the box and scribbled this in : "Ross" wrote: Vito Kuhn pulled a bright blue crayon out of the box and scribbled this in : [...] I misjudged you by a mile. You're a low life swine like Ross... bows humbly To be litsed by a kook like Vito is a blessing. Is your spell checker out of order, or is that troll jargon? Probably the latter, judging from your comments in the rec.arts."URBAN-POETRY" discussion. Obviously clueless as to the ways of Usenet. ...and when did I post into a rec.art group? Nobody is falling for your sales pitch routine, you immature troll. You know what I'm talking about, when you followed me into news.groups a few days ago. Do your parents know that you are a cyber stalker? I reckon they don't or they wouldn't allow you to use their computer. Cyber stalker! Vito hauls out the big gunz now. Can Frito teh Kunt-troll freak even deline what a "cyber stalker' supposedly is, aside from a person that makes fun of Kuhntroll freaks? Let me guess -- anyone that doesn't buy into his censored usenet visions? Seems likely, A.D. Kuhntrol freaks are like that. They hate people because people won't obey them, and teh Kuhntrol freaks just KNOW that those poor people would just be SO much better off if teh Kuhntrol freaks were in control. The fact that they are wrong never occurs to teh Kuhntrol freaks. ESL! -- Bookman -The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in AFA-B Kazoo Konspirator #668 (The Neighbor of the Beast) Clue-Bat Wrangler Keeper of the Nickname Lists Despotic Kookologist of the New World Order "I'd love to kill you in a ring" - Bartmo gets all touchy-feely "****SPV....... So yes I am an idiot." http://www.insurgent.org/~kook*-faq/afa-b/ http://www.insurgent.org/~kook*-faq/afa-b/index.html |
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