Readers of the rec may remember that I scored a half price Paslode
nailer/bradder for building some election poster frames. Here is a
small part of them. I built a jig for each part I calculated there were
1200 saw cuts in this job along with a lot of grooves cut, rebates and
tenons.

I think I earned my nailer!

Mekon

Mekon wrote:
Readers of the rec may remember that I scored a half price Paslode
nailer/bradder for building some election poster frames. Here is a small
part of them. I built a jig for each part I calculated there were 1200
saw cuts in this job along with a lot of grooves cut, rebates and tenons.

I think I earned my nailer!

No ****, Little Beaver. You earned a good dozen nailers for all that work.
phew,
jo4hn
Mekon

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On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 03:03:45 GMT, Mekon
wrote:

Readers of the rec may remember that I scored a half price Paslode
nailer/bradder for building some election poster frames.

You folks have classy elections. Our candidates simply stick Corollas
signs on a wood or wire stick into the ground!

B a r r y expressed precisely :
On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 03:03:45 GMT, Mekon
wrote:

Readers of the rec may remember that I scored a half price Paslode
nailer/bradder for building some election poster frames.

You folks have classy elections. Our candidates simply stick Corollas
signs on a wood or wire stick into the ground!


This is a Federal election, so all the stops are pulled.

It is very likely that we will go to bed on Saturday night knowing that
the government has changed hands.

Mekon

Mekon wrote in
:

B a r r y expressed precisely :
On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 03:03:45 GMT, Mekon
wrote:

Readers of the rec may remember that I scored a half price Paslode
nailer/bradder for building some election poster frames.

You folks have classy elections. Our candidates simply stick Corollas
signs on a wood or wire stick into the ground!


This is a Federal election, so all the stops are pulled.

It is very likely that we will go to bed on Saturday night knowing that
the government has changed hands.

Mekon

What are the big issues in Oz today?

(In the US there are elections a year from now, and the primary fights
are soon to start in earnest).

But first we have TURKEY today (kalkoen, niet Turkije!)
--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 11:22:30 GMT, B a r r y
wrote:

You folks have classy elections. Our candidates simply stick Corollas

_CORPLAST!_

Damn spell checker!

B a r r y pretended :
On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 11:22:30 GMT, B a r r y
wrote:

You folks have classy elections. Our candidates simply stick Corollas

_CORPLAST!_

Damn spell checker!

OIC... I thought initially Japanese cars.

http://images.paultan.org/uploads/20...orolla_mag.jpg

I think we have the same stuff but call it corflute sp?

Mekon

Han has brought this to us :


What are the big issues in Oz today?

(In the US there are elections a year from now, and the primary fights
are soon to start in earnest).

But first we have TURKEY today (kalkoen, niet Turkije!)



As I see it - everyone else will have a different view.
(if any readers do lets not argue about it, we get to disagree in a
democracy like ours)

For those not familiar with our parties.
The Liberals are the lead conservative party, even so they are not as
right wing as the US democrats - but they'd like to be.
ALP (Aust Labor Party) Further left than the Libs but not as far as
they once were.


1. Global warming, Kyoto ratification. ALP will sign LIB will not
2. Industrial relations. LIBs will continue to structure IR around a
thing called Work Choices. Which is moving IR to a model where
employers get all the power and employees get screwed. ALP will
dismantle Work Choices. (this is what the signs were about)
3. Interest rates. LIBs made a big deal about keeping them low, there
have been four (?) rate rises in a row. I doubt the ALP will/can do
much better.
4. Energy LIBs promise nothing, ALP promises to invest in alternate
sources.
5. Technology. LIBs promise little. ALP promises, real broadband for
most of us and a laptop for every senior HS student

Websites for more.

www.kevin07.com.au
http://www.liberal.org.au/

There are several other parties which although they matter when the
votes are counted, they cannot get control of the house. They may hold
the balance of power in the Senate (which has happened a number of
times in the past.

Mekon

Mekon wrote in
:

Han has brought this to us :


What are the big issues in Oz today?

(In the US there are elections a year from now, and the primary fights
are soon to start in earnest).

But first we have TURKEY today (kalkoen, niet Turkije!)



As I see it - everyone else will have a different view.
(if any readers do lets not argue about it, we get to disagree in a
democracy like ours)

For those not familiar with our parties.
The Liberals are the lead conservative party, even so they are not as
right wing as the US democrats - but they'd like to be.
ALP (Aust Labor Party) Further left than the Libs but not as far as
they once were.


1. Global warming, Kyoto ratification. ALP will sign LIB will not
2. Industrial relations. LIBs will continue to structure IR around a
thing called Work Choices. Which is moving IR to a model where
employers get all the power and employees get screwed. ALP will
dismantle Work Choices. (this is what the signs were about)
3. Interest rates. LIBs made a big deal about keeping them low, there
have been four (?) rate rises in a row. I doubt the ALP will/can do
much better.
4. Energy LIBs promise nothing, ALP promises to invest in alternate
sources.
5. Technology. LIBs promise little. ALP promises, real broadband for
most of us and a laptop for every senior HS student

Websites for more.

www.kevin07.com.au
http://www.liberal.org.au/

There are several other parties which although they matter when the
votes are counted, they cannot get control of the house. They may hold
the balance of power in the Senate (which has happened a number of
times in the past.

Mekon

Thanks Mekon, for the explanations! I was wondering what part foreign
politics play in your elections, especially Middle East politics.

What's "IR"?

In Holland also, the liberals are really the main conservative party, but
here in the US, most Republicans are further to the right.



--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

on 23/11/2007, Han supposed :

(snip)

Thanks Mekon, for the explanations! I was wondering what part foreign
politics play in your elections, especially Middle East politics.

Almost none, except as related to where and when our troops fight over
there.

Australia has a long standing practice wth the US that anytime they
have a war we will be the first to help. The US likes this cos it looks
like it is the sane end of world fighting the foe and it may encourage
others to join in. Every war that the US has been in since WWI we have
sent troops.(The US went into Granada before we had the chance to send
anyone to help)
Australia does this because we have Indonesia immediately to the north.
Indonesia is a Moslem country run by the military, overpopulated and
generally poor. Should they choose to invade, we would probably run out
of ammunition on the third day of hostilities. I think the plan is to
hold them till the US and Britain arrives.
The Australian armed services train to fight an imaginary country
called Musoria. It is the same size, location, religion & has the same
religion, weapons, language, training and tactics as Indonesia.



What's "IR"?

Industrial relations, the relationship between workers and employees.

In Holland also, the liberals are really the main conservative party, but
here in the US, most Republicans are further to the right.

I think Hitler and Mussolini would be all that is further to the right
than the Republicans, huh?

Mekon

Mekon wrote in
:

on 23/11/2007, Han supposed :

(snip)

Thanks Mekon, for the explanations! I was wondering what part
foreign politics play in your elections, especially Middle East
politics.

Almost none, except as related to where and when our troops fight over
there.

Thanks! I needed to know.

Australia has a long standing practice wth the US that anytime they
have a war we will be the first to help. The US likes this cos it
looks like it is the sane end of world fighting the foe and it may
encourage others to join in. Every war that the US has been in since
WWI we have sent troops.(The US went into Granada before we had the
chance to send anyone to help)
Australia does this because we have Indonesia immediately to the
north. Indonesia is a Moslem country run by the military,
overpopulated and generally poor. Should they choose to invade, we
would probably run out of ammunition on the third day of hostilities.
I think the plan is to hold them till the US and Britain arrives.
The Australian armed services train to fight an imaginary country
called Musoria. It is the same size, location, religion & has the same
religion, weapons, language, training and tactics as Indonesia.

When I was in high school, Indonesia invaded/"liberated" New Guinea.
Yes, I was born a Dutchman.



What's "IR"?

Industrial relations, the relationship between workers and employees.

In Holland also, the liberals are really the main conservative party,
but here in the US, most Republicans are further to the right.

I think Hitler and Mussolini would be all that is further to the right
than the Republicans, huh?

Now, now! That is going a little too far. The current dictatorship is
making "mistakes", but that comaprison is out of line, IMO.

Mekon



--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

Han wrote



What's "IR"?

Industrial relations, the relationship between workers and employees.

In Holland also, the liberals are really the main conservative party,
but here in the US, most Republicans are further to the right.

I think Hitler and Mussolini would be all that is further to the right
than the Republicans, huh?

Now, now! That is going a little too far. The current dictatorship is
making "mistakes", but that comaprison is out of line, IMO.

I should have been clearer.

I didn't mean to compare them, just place them on a political
continuum. I think it is hard to find a political system further to the
right than the US unless it is a military dictatorship. I know it isnt
and I am not saying the US is one, but it is to the right of most.

Mekon

Mekon wrote:

Han wrote



What's "IR"?

Industrial relations, the relationship between workers and employees.

In Holland also, the liberals are really the main conservative party,
but here in the US, most Republicans are further to the right.

I think Hitler and Mussolini would be all that is further to the right
than the Republicans, huh?

Now, now! That is going a little too far. The current dictatorship is
making "mistakes", but that comaprison is out of line, IMO.

I should have been clearer.

I didn't mean to compare them, just place them on a political
continuum. I think it is hard to find a political system further to the
right than the US unless it is a military dictatorship. I know it isnt
and I am not saying the US is one, but it is to the right of most.

Mekon

I think your comparison of left and right is skewed. Stalin, Pol Pot,
Mao, and even Hitler (who was a socialist of sorts) were all to the left of
the political spectrum in that they stood for government control of any and
all sources of production and distribution as well as control of peoples'
lives and livelihoods. The political left falls into the same category,
advocating strong government involvement in all manners of affairs from
abrogating property rights to controlling health care to the point of
defining what kind, if any cars people can or should be driving.

The political right, to which some Republicans are associated (it is
questionable that Olympia Snow, Lincoln Chaffee and the like would fall
into this realm) is on the opposite end of the spectrum in that it stands
for limited government and maximum individual control. Thus property rights
and the rights of people to make their own choices, and to the maximum
extent possible control the most of the fruits of their labor would fall
into the political right. Government's primary duty is securing the
border, assuring national security, and guarding against a tyranny of the
majority or allowing too much power in the hands of too few by making sure
that the laws of the land apply to all. Hardly the realm of Hitler or
Mussolini. The political left has appropriated those figures as examples
of the "right" when in actuality they were equivalently left as their
darlings from the USSR or Red China.
--
If you're going to be dumb, you better be tough

(snip)

I'm sorry I said anything at all about this.
I won't respond beyond that - we don't need politics here, I doubt any
good will come of it.

Mekon

Mekon wrote:
(snip)

I'm sorry I said anything at all about this.
I won't respond beyond that - we don't need politics here, I doubt any
good will come of it.

Mekon

An admirable response; I salute you sir.

--
Free bad advice available here.
To reply, eat the taco.

Steve Turner wrote in news:B0s1j.992$4q5.217
@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com:

Mekon wrote:
(snip)

I'm sorry I said anything at all about this.
I won't respond beyond that - we don't need politics here, I doubt any
good will come of it.

Mekon

An admirable response; I salute you sir.

Nevertheless, Mekon, are you happy with the election outcome?

--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

Han laid this down on his screen :
Steve Turner wrote in news:B0s1j.992$4q5.217
@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com:

Mekon wrote:
(snip)

I'm sorry I said anything at all about this.
I won't respond beyond that - we don't need politics here, I doubt any
good will come of it.

Mekon

An admirable response; I salute you sir.

Nevertheless, Mekon, are you happy with the election outcome?

Over the moon.


I announced the result at interval in our theatre during the Agatha
Christie (that I posted the secret door in abpw) and there was
spontaneous applause.
It is very likely that the Prime Minister has lost not only the
election as a whole but his own seat as well. A seat he has held for 33
years. This has only happened once since federation and is a stunning
result.

Mekon

Mekon wrote in
:

Han laid this down on his screen :

Nevertheless, Mekon, are you happy with the election outcome?

Over the moon.


I announced the result at interval in our theatre during the Agatha
Christie (that I posted the secret door in abpw) and there was
spontaneous applause.
It is very likely that the Prime Minister has lost not only the
election as a whole but his own seat as well. A seat he has held for
33 years. This has only happened once since federation and is a
stunning result.

Mekon

I'm happy too! Now we have to repeat something like that in the US ...

--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

"Mekon" wrote in message
. ..
I think Hitler and Mussolini would be all that is further to the right
than the Republicans, huh?

Mekon


I'd think quite the opposite.....Hitler was rather partial to "state
control" of mind and body with the state knowing best......Maybe not
absolute state ownership of private property but he only respected private
property rights of those deemed worthy......at least here liberals are quite
partial to the nanny state, with state control of anything and everything
they can get their hands on.....here I'm required, expected to pay a fee and
get permission to trim or "shudder" remove a curb side tree....even though I
planted the damn thing....such desire and control does not come from the
right. Rod