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Treadle Lathe
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Last year, having way too much time on my hands, and some old 2X12's laying around, I made a treadle lathe. I used the 2X12;s and made a 3-ply wheelwhich I mounted on a steel pipe for an axle, put it up between 2 risers and with a grinder motor, got it to turn and turned and sanded the outside so it was round, with a groove in the middle. I used a third riser at the end and a couple of 2X12's (cut down to 2X6) for a bed, and held the thing together with 4" deck screws. I cobbled a treadle together and welded a pitman arm on the end of the pipe-asle. I used a belt to drive a cylinder that I "turned" from a an old piece of a maple tree and mounted it to another steel pipe that I welded a chuck to. For a tailstock, another chunk of 2X12 (again, cut down) and a steel rod that I ground a point onto. The tailstock moved back and forth to allow for different lenghts of wood. Well, the thing actually worked, blew my mind. I ended up taking it apart as I was only making shavings and I needed the room more than I needed a half-assed lathe. I am planning on re-doing the project, but this time with some nice, properly dimensioned hardwoods (probably maple), and a properly-made tailstock with a moveable point (maybe even a hollow point!), as well as using a set of reduction pulleys to allow for higher speeds. Has anyone ever built a treadle lathe, and what exsperiences/insight could you share. Cheers, Derek |
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"derekd" wrote: Has anyone ever built a treadle lathe, and what exsperiences/insight could you share. Derek Hi Derek. I've been active in the Society for Creative Anachronisms for twenty mumble, mumble years. The SCA recreates loosely the arts, crafts and activities in the middle ages. I've tried out a few treadle, and hand cranked, lathes over the years but too lazy to use one in my shop. They are fun to demonstrate to the crowds of mundane folk at renassaince faires. Just keep the tools sharp and make light cuts. Consider doing a websearch for "SCA treadle lathe" if you want to folks who been there done that. Or the ones who enjoy researching the technology of medievil times. like; http://www.his.com/~tom/sca/lathes.html http://www.his.com/~tom/sca/projects/treadlelathe.html I hope the day finds you well Bernadette |
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derekd wrote: Hi all. Last year, having way too much time on my hands, and some old 2X12's laying around, I made a treadle lathe. I used the 2X12;s and made a 3-ply wheelwhich I mounted on a steel pipe for an axle, put it up between 2 risers and with a grinder motor, got it to turn and turned and sanded the outside so it was round, with a groove in the middle. I used a third riser at the end and a couple of 2X12's (cut down to 2X6) for a bed, and held the thing together with 4" deck screws. I cobbled a treadle together and welded a pitman arm on the end of the pipe-asle. I used a belt to drive a cylinder that I "turned" from a an old piece of a maple tree and mounted it to another steel pipe that I welded a chuck to. For a tailstock, another chunk of 2X12 (again, cut down) and a steel rod that I ground a point onto. The tailstock moved back and forth to allow for different lenghts of wood. Well, the thing actually worked, blew my mind. I ended up taking it apart as I was only making shavings and I needed the room more than I needed a half-assed lathe. I am planning on re-doing the project, but this time with some nice, properly dimensioned hardwoods (probably maple), and a properly-made tailstock with a moveable point (maybe even a hollow point!), as well as using a set of reduction pulleys to allow for higher speeds. Has anyone ever built a treadle lathe, and what exsperiences/insight could you share. Cheers, Derek I built a treadle lathe and then converted it to electric, getting older I guess.Worked well after redoing the flywheel. First flywheel was not heavy enough on the rim. Then made a new one with purple heart glued up with spokes to a bubinga hub.This made a huge difference.The first flywheel was 1 1/2" thick pine. The purple heart rim was 2 3/4" thick and used same spokes and hub. I used leather belts sewed up by a shoemaker. Bearings were bought from McMaster Carr. I used a 5/8 cold rolled steel for the headstock spindle. Heated it with map gas, flattened one end and shaped with a variety of files,dremel tool and a hacksaw.Wound up with a two spur chisel profile. Used a machine bolt for the tailstock spindle, ground to a point.I made a tool rest from 3/4" iron pipe nipple and 5/8" cold rolled steel. The pipe nipple fit in an oak banjo, the steel slides vertically in pipe. A 1/4x20 bolt is tapped into nipple for a setscrew. I am not sure but I think Shopsmith sells live centers and spur centers that go on cold rolled steel if you would rather buy them than make them. I would use pillow block ball bearings and figure on a jackshaft to take up the slack in the belt. mike |
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Doc Font wrote: In article sTZNd.11502$K54.3956@edtnps84, "derekd" wrote: Has anyone ever built a treadle lathe, and what exsperiences/insight could you share. Derek Hi Derek. I've been active in the Society for Creative Anachronisms for twenty mumble, mumble years. dito The SCA recreates loosely the arts, crafts and activities in the middle ages. or not so loosely (depending on who you are) I've tried out a few treadle, and hand cranked, lathes over the years but too lazy to use one in my shop. They are fun to demonstrate to the crowds of mundane folk at renassaince faires. Just keep the tools sharp and make light cuts. You aren't the only one.... Consider doing a websearch for "SCA treadle lathe" if you want to folks who been there done that. Or the ones who enjoy researching the technology of medievil times. like; http://www.his.com/~tom/sca/lathes.html http://www.his.com/~tom/sca/projects/treadlelathe.html Additionally, there is a book for the York dig people that shows some construction detail. It also shows lots of "cores" left from period turning. If requested I can post the details for the book. -- -------------------------------------------------------- Personal e-mail is the n7bsn but at amsat.org This posting address is a spam-trap and seldom read RV and Camping FAQ can be found at http://www.ralphandellen.us/rv |
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"Ralph E Lindberg" wrote in message ... In article , Doc Font wrote: In article sTZNd.11502$K54.3956@edtnps84, "derekd" wrote: Has anyone ever built a treadle lathe, and what exsperiences/insight could you share. Derek Hi Derek. I've been active in the Society for Creative Anachronisms for twenty mumble, mumble years. dito The SCA recreates loosely the arts, crafts and activities in the middle ages. or not so loosely (depending on who you are) I've tried out a few treadle, and hand cranked, lathes over the years but too lazy to use one in my shop. They are fun to demonstrate to the crowds of mundane folk at renassaince faires. Just keep the tools sharp and make light cuts. You aren't the only one.... Consider doing a websearch for "SCA treadle lathe" if you want to folks who been there done that. Or the ones who enjoy researching the technology of medievil times. like; http://www.his.com/~tom/sca/lathes.html http://www.his.com/~tom/sca/projects/treadlelathe.html Additionally, there is a book for the York dig people that shows some construction detail. It also shows lots of "cores" left from period turning. If requested I can post the details for the book. Not treadle, but some ideas available at : http://www.bodgers.org.uk/ |
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Thanks to all who answered. I like the idea of later changin it to an
electric motor (that "getting old thing"), but I also like the idea of foot-power. I am going to be turning pipes and whistles, fifes and other tube-type thingys. I need a chick and steady rest for boring the holes (with a gun-drill), and a hollow tailstock to feed said gun drill. I recall one of the the lathes on the net having two pedals so that the operator could sit while working the machine. Derek |
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derekd wrote: Thanks to all who answered. I like the idea of later changin it to an electric motor (that "getting old thing"), but I also like the idea of foot-power. I am going to be turning pipes and whistles, fifes and other tube-type thingys. Make sure you post a link to pictures when done. Know that I would like to see them. I need a chick and steady rest for boring the holes (with a gun-drill), and a hollow tailstock to feed said gun drill. Well if you get a "chick" to help in that way let us know. Maybe we are all missing an opportunity. :-) Understand the need for "steady rest" if the idea works out. :-) Does SWMBO know about this idea? ( Sure you meant chuck - but it reads better this way. :-)) ) I recall one of the the lathes on the net having two pedals so that the operator could sit while working the machine. Maybe it was so the "chick" could help. :-) Derek -- Will Occasional Techno-geek |
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hee hee
Derek "George" george@least wrote in message ... "Will" wrote in message .. . I need a chick and steady rest for boring the holes (with a gun-drill), and a hollow tailstock to feed said gun drill. Well if you get a "chick" to help in that way let us know. Maybe we are all missing an opportunity. :-) Understand the need for "steady rest" if the idea works out. :-) Does SWMBO know about this idea? The dental plan could be pretty expensive, though. |
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Hello Derek
I build one out of one 2" x 4"x96" at our 2x4 Challenge, it is just for looks but it works. It is like a Meccano toy, you can take it appart, wooden screws and all. We could use glue only, no fasteners. you can see at http://pacificwoodworkersguild.com/c...?album=9&pos=1 |
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wrote in message oups.com... Hello Derek I build one out of one 2" x 4"x96" at our 2x4 Challenge, it is just for looks but it works. It is like a Meccano toy, you can take it appart, wooden screws and all. We could use glue only, no fasteners. you can see at http://pacificwoodworkersguild.com/c...?album=9&pos=1 Only one word - Incredible! |
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Terrific job, looks like a lot of fun to make.
mike |
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