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Delta's Midi Lathe offer - a question
Hello,
I recently took a voc. school course on woodworking and got a little time in on the small Delta/Rockwell lathes they had. As a result, I decided that it's time to add a lathe to my woodworking tools... Obviously, some of you would suggest lathes that are way out of my price range, with full complement of the best tools made by men- so I'm not going to ask! Next Friday, I'm going out to pick up a Delta Midi Lathe (an early Christmas present from the wife) and I've got the coupon from the Delta Owner's group for a free bed extension or set of turning tools. Here's the dilemma I'm facing, in a nutshell- The lathe is going to be used for chessmen (and Christmas ornaments- part of the devil's bargin I made to get my present early!) but I'd like to eventually make spindle legs for chess tables as well. (I've been making boards for a while now, and am thinking of selling full sets once my quality is up to snuff) The lathe extension would obviously be a great help in making legs, and adding stability. I'm not sure if I'll need the stability or not, since I've got 120# of steel tubing (to be filled with concrete for even greater wieght) and about 70# of Mesquite earmarked for making the lathe stand, but I'm sure it can't hurt anything, either! But I also can't afford to get a good set of turning tools until after the hollidays, and I'm going to want to play with my new toy, not just let it sit idle for a couple of months. So, I'm left debating whether I should go with the tools or the extension- There's a big difference in the cost of the two items, so the tools looked like the way to go at first, especially since they're what I need the most right away, but I don't want to waste the opportunity to get the extension free if I'm just going to have to get a better set of tools in a few months. Has anyone used Delta's set of eight turning tools, and if so, are they worth having for a novice turner? I don't mind doing a little extra finishing work, but I don't want complete junk cluttering up my shop either... For a little perspective on the issue, the tools I learned to turn with were "Buck Bros." (I'm not sure if those are good or bad, it's just info) and they were just sufficient for my purpose- if the Deltas are better than that, that's what I'd like to get! If they're inferior to that, I'll just suck it up and wait until I can get a good set. Any thoughts? Aut inveniam viam aut faciam |
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Prometheus wrote: Hello, snip/ Any thoughts? Aut inveniam viam aut faciam Get the tools, if you don't like the lathe in a little while you don't have an extension to get rid off also, and by the time you have the turning under control, and if you still want to do furniture, you always can buy that extension yet, but whatever you do, you will need those turning tools to get there. |
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Any thoughts? Aut inveniam viam aut faciam I have read in these NGs (somewhere, sometime recently) that the Delta tools are "for crap" (for lack of the original quote). I would get the bed extension and buy the highly praised HSS Harbor Freight tool set of 8 for $35.99 (Or another mini set, easily seen for $30). If you ever return the lathe they might demand the bed extention, and if they do not then it won't hurt to have it and sell it on eBay, you'll still have the good tools for use with another lathe. Not intended as "my plan for your future", but it is what I would do. Many others here would happily suggest the Jet mini lathe as a worthy and high quality starter. Alex |
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I'm not sure if I'll need the stability or not, since I've got 120# of
steel tubing (to be filled with concrete for even greater wieght) and about 70# of Mesquite earmarked for making the lathe stand, but I'm sure it can't hurt anything, either! But I also can't afford to get a good set of turning tools until after the hollidays (snip) Let me get this straight, you are not made of money, yet you are going to make your lathe stand of $8-$10/BF MESQUITE? I have the lathe you are getting (not a bad lathe for a beginner, I've been happy with it for about a year). I made a stand out of construction lumber, 2x6 legs and 2x12 top, the legs splay at about a 7 degree angle to the sides and 5 degrees to the front and back. Tied together with drywall screws and 3/4 plywood sides, 2 2x4 stringers at the bottom. Made a melemine drawer unit to fit inside the base, tapered front to back but not side to side. Filled with tools, sandpaper, blanks, etc., it weights the lathe just fine. Send me the mesquite and I'll build you one in exchange! Ö¿Ö¬ |
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G'day. You may be interested in contacting Mike Darlow about his new
book on turned chessmen: http://www.hinet.net.au/~mdarlow/ It has just been released and isn't detailed on the site yet. he is in Australia, as am I. Just thought it may be of interest. Good luck, Alan On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 19:41:46 -0600, Prometheus wrote: Hello, I recently took a voc. school course on woodworking and got a little time in on the small Delta/Rockwell lathes they had. As a result, I decided that it's time to add a lathe to my woodworking tools... Obviously, some of you would suggest lathes that are way out of my price range, with full complement of the best tools made by men- so I'm not going to ask! Next Friday, I'm going out to pick up a Delta Midi Lathe (an early Christmas present from the wife) and I've got the coupon from the Delta Owner's group for a free bed extension or set of turning tools. Here's the dilemma I'm facing, in a nutshell- The lathe is going to be used for chessmen (and Christmas ornaments- part of the devil's bargin I made to get my present early!) but I'd like to eventually make spindle legs for chess tables as well. (I've been making boards for a while now, and am thinking of selling full sets once my quality is up to snuff) The lathe extension would obviously be a great help in making legs, and adding stability. I'm not sure if I'll need the stability or not, since I've got 120# of steel tubing (to be filled with concrete for even greater wieght) and about 70# of Mesquite earmarked for making the lathe stand, but I'm sure it can't hurt anything, either! But I also can't afford to get a good set of turning tools until after the hollidays, and I'm going to want to play with my new toy, not just let it sit idle for a couple of months. So, I'm left debating whether I should go with the tools or the extension- There's a big difference in the cost of the two items, so the tools looked like the way to go at first, especially since they're what I need the most right away, but I don't want to waste the opportunity to get the extension free if I'm just going to have to get a better set of tools in a few months. Has anyone used Delta's set of eight turning tools, and if so, are they worth having for a novice turner? I don't mind doing a little extra finishing work, but I don't want complete junk cluttering up my shop either... For a little perspective on the issue, the tools I learned to turn with were "Buck Bros." (I'm not sure if those are good or bad, it's just info) and they were just sufficient for my purpose- if the Deltas are better than that, that's what I'd like to get! If they're inferior to that, I'll just suck it up and wait until I can get a good set. Any thoughts? Aut inveniam viam aut faciam |
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Prometheus wrote:
That's quite a bit more Mesquite than I've got, I'm afraid. I'd have to sell my van to get one of those! Anyhow, I can't really sell the wood or give it away- if I decide I don't want it (which isn't going to happen, I just don't want to use it foolishly), he'd want it back. It'll make a real fine lathe stand in the meantime- heavy and dimentionally stable, as well as nice looking. Just long enough to give turning a bit off the end a go, too. It's not going to be the lathe stand forever, just until I find something else to use for it, and I have a good use for the mesquite- probably some shallow bowls or chessmen. Haven't tried the Delta tools, but I think I'd get the extension. With sets you usually get a few tools you use a lot, and several that never see the light of day. the mesquite, make a chess table with it and sell it and buy the tools. It's nice having a classy shop, but most of the time you won't be able to even see it for all the shavings! Just my .02 worth... ....Kevin |
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Alan wrote in message . ..
G'day. You may be interested in contacting Mike Darlow about his new book on turned chessmen: http://www.hinet.net.au/~mdarlow/ It has just been released and isn't detailed on the site yet. he is in Australia, as am I. Just thought it may be of interest. Good luck, Alan Thanks for the lead- and sorry to be so tardy in replying, my ISP just switched News servers, and they still aren't running the thing correctly. On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 19:41:46 -0600, Prometheus wrote: Hello, I recently took a voc. school course on woodworking and got a little time in on the small Delta/Rockwell lathes they had. As a result, I decided that it's time to add a lathe to my woodworking tools... Obviously, some of you would suggest lathes that are way out of my price range, with full complement of the best tools made by men- so I'm not going to ask! Next Friday, I'm going out to pick up a Delta Midi Lathe (an early Christmas present from the wife) and I've got the coupon from the Delta Owner's group for a free bed extension or set of turning tools. Here's the dilemma I'm facing, in a nutshell- The lathe is going to be used for chessmen (and Christmas ornaments- part of the devil's bargin I made to get my present early!) but I'd like to eventually make spindle legs for chess tables as well. (I've been making boards for a while now, and am thinking of selling full sets once my quality is up to snuff) The lathe extension would obviously be a great help in making legs, and adding stability. I'm not sure if I'll need the stability or not, since I've got 120# of steel tubing (to be filled with concrete for even greater wieght) and about 70# of Mesquite earmarked for making the lathe stand, but I'm sure it can't hurt anything, either! But I also can't afford to get a good set of turning tools until after the hollidays, and I'm going to want to play with my new toy, not just let it sit idle for a couple of months. So, I'm left debating whether I should go with the tools or the extension- There's a big difference in the cost of the two items, so the tools looked like the way to go at first, especially since they're what I need the most right away, but I don't want to waste the opportunity to get the extension free if I'm just going to have to get a better set of tools in a few months. Has anyone used Delta's set of eight turning tools, and if so, are they worth having for a novice turner? I don't mind doing a little extra finishing work, but I don't want complete junk cluttering up my shop either... For a little perspective on the issue, the tools I learned to turn with were "Buck Bros." (I'm not sure if those are good or bad, it's just info) and they were just sufficient for my purpose- if the Deltas are better than that, that's what I'd like to get! If they're inferior to that, I'll just suck it up and wait until I can get a good set. Any thoughts? Aut inveniam viam aut faciam |
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"Barry N. Turner" wrote in message ...
Say what? You're gonna need wood for turning aren't you? I've got some 9/4 Basswood earmarked for learning to turn. Seems like a foolish idea to use the rarest and most expensive wood I've got the first time I turn my lathe on! I've got a bunch of other wood to work through first, that mesquite is being saved until I've either got a better bandsaw for resawing it into veneer, or have refined my turning skill enough to be sure it's not going to be a total waste. Barry "Prometheus" wrote in message ... On 3 Dec 2004 05:59:57 -0800, (Gary DeWitt) wrote: I'm not sure if I'll need the stability or not, since I've got 120# of steel tubing (to be filled with concrete for even greater wieght) and about 70# of Mesquite earmarked for making the lathe stand, but I'm sure it can't hurt anything, either! But I also can't afford to get a good set of turning tools until after the hollidays |
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Prometheus wrote:
So, I'm left debating whether I should go with the tools or the extension- There's a big difference in the cost of the two items, so the tools looked like the way to go at first, especially since they're what I need the most right away, but I don't want to waste the opportunity to get the extension free if I'm just going to have to get a better set of tools in a few months. FWIW Go for the extension. You can get a perfectly serviceable set of 8 HSS lathe tools from HF for about $40. I've been using mine since August and liking them. To that initial set I have added a couple "grind as I go" scrapers made from HSS flat stock, an oval skew and a Sorby hollowing tool. The HF set has good steel and longish handles that are plenty comfortable to work with and hold their edges decently. Bill |
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Prometheus wrote: .... Any thoughts? Aut inveniam viam aut faciam I went for the extension -- -------------------------------------------------------- Personal e-mail is the n7bsn but at amsat.org This posting address is a spam-trap and seldom read RV and Camping FAQ can be found at http://www.ralphandellen.us/rv |
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