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Alcohol Drying (OT) long
Thought I would try the new alcohol method for drying bowls everyone is trying
so I went to the local hardware store to buy 5 gallons of denatured alcohol. The girl at the cash register said that I was not a painter and wanted to know what I was going to do with all that stuff. Told her if she promised not to tell anyone, I would let her in on what I was doing with it, she promised not to tell a soul. I told her I was having a big party and was going to have it for everybody to drink. She informed me that it would kill everyone. I told her that I had invented a simple new way to make it safe to drink, but could tell no one how because I was going to get rich with my new invention. By the time I got to the barber shop the boys wanted to know about the big party at my place. Glenn Hodges, having fun with all the inquiring minds in Nashville, GA. |
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Ghodges2 wrote:
Thought I would try the new alcohol method for drying bowls everyone is trying so I went to the local hardware store to buy 5 gallons of denatured alcohol. The girl at the cash register said that I was not a painter and wanted to know what I was going to do with all that stuff. Told her if she promised not to tell anyone, I would let her in on what I was doing with it, she promised not to tell a soul. I told her I was having a big party and was going to have it for everybody to drink. She informed me that it would kill everyone. I told her that I had invented a simple new way to make it safe to drink, but could tell no one how because I was going to get rich with my new invention. By the time I got to the barber shop the boys wanted to know about the big party at my place. Glenn Hodges, having fun with all the inquiring minds in Nashville, GA. What time should we be there? |
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I thought if you filtered the Sterno through a sock you could drink it?
"Ghodges2" wrote in message ... Thought I would try the new alcohol method for drying bowls everyone is trying so I went to the local hardware store to buy 5 gallons of denatured alcohol. The girl at the cash register said that I was not a painter and wanted to know what I was going to do with all that stuff. Told her if she promised not to tell anyone, I would let her in on what I was doing with it, she promised not to tell a soul. I told her I was having a big party and was going to have it for everybody to drink. She informed me that it would kill everyone. I told her that I had invented a simple new way to make it safe to drink, but could tell no one how because I was going to get rich with my new invention. By the time I got to the barber shop the boys wanted to know about the big party at my place. Glenn Hodges, having fun with all the inquiring minds in Nashville, GA. |
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George you can drink sock-filtered sterno, just can't ever see it again.
Odd that adding alcohol dries out wood, but omitting alcohol dries out drunks. I wonder if soaking wood in alcohol might, in time, result in off center, eccentric and unstable ole soaks; pieces of art that speak to you in garbled voices? In the blush of recent alcoholic success, has LDD been relegated to the status of 'near beer' and denatured ethanol is now the preferred 'hard stuff'. Leif? Turn to Safety, Arch Fortiter http://community.webtv.net/almcc/MacsMusings |
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Yeah, sure it does.
We seem to crave a pill for all our ills, real or self-inflicted. Wood contains alcohol, maybe that's why it dries at all? "Arch" wrote in message ... Odd that adding alcohol dries out wood, but omitting alcohol dries out drunks. |
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*sigh* LDD contains at least a couple of forms of alcohol all ready. Some
turners have added denatured alcohol to LDD with the idea that it absorbs water and would facilitate "drying;" however, it seemed to make no difference. The LDD seems to draw water from the wood and replaces it with "something" from the LDD. Specific gravity seems to bear out that water is gained in the solution by the lowering of the SG. LDD is not likely a catalytic, but rather "something" seems to be drawn from it and the solution will require the addition of more LDD to compensate for the dilution. It would require a biochemist and fancy equipment to come to an answer as to what that "something" is. Thought we had one turner with those qualifications, but the tests were too expensive to run. You'd almost think this could be a PhD topic for someone.*G* Leif "Arch" wrote in message ... George you can drink sock-filtered sterno, just can't ever see it again. Odd that adding alcohol dries out wood, but omitting alcohol dries out drunks. I wonder if soaking wood in alcohol might, in time, result in off center, eccentric and unstable ole soaks; pieces of art that speak to you in garbled voices? In the blush of recent alcoholic success, has LDD been relegated to the status of 'near beer' and denatured ethanol is now the preferred 'hard stuff'. Leif? Turn to Safety, Arch Fortiter http://community.webtv.net/almcc/MacsMusings |
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Leif, more likely a topic for a LL.D candidate. It will take a
'Philadelphia lawyer' to sort this all out. The wood may be 'cut and dried', but the physical chemistry sure isn't. De-natured alcohol can wait while I do tests on the natured stuff. A wee dram of fully-natured ethanol, once exposed to peat smoke, is best for my good nature. Turn to Safety, Arch Fortiter http://community.webtv.net/almcc/MacsMusings |
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*sigh* LDD contains at least a couple of forms of alcohol all ready.
"All ready for what?" Some turners have added denatured alcohol to LDD with the idea that it absorbs water and would facilitate "drying;" however, it seemed to make no difference. The LDD seems to draw water from the wood and replaces it with "something" from the LDD. Specific gravity seems to bear out that water is gained in the solution by the lowering of the SG. LDD is not likely a catalytic, but rather "something" seems to be drawn from it and the solution will require the addition of more LDD to compensate for the dilution. It would require a biochemist and fancy equipment to come to an answer as to what that "something" is. Thought we had one turner with those qualifications, but the tests were too expensive to run. You'd almost think this could be a PhD topic for someone.*G* Leif Seems to me that you are making this more complicated and exotic than necessary. Since the SG changes, but without a change in color, odor, or temperature, and no precipitate has been reported, then it tells me that no chemical reaction is taking place. Might it not be as simple as the detergent is replacing the water in the wood? Dan |
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Arch,
A wonderful new honorific, most appropriate for the candidate. Might I be so bold as to suggest that we employ the powers of our doctorates and status as members of the Exclusive Order of the "COC", and in recognition of Leif's Dissertation "The Soap Solution" [archived he http://www.ronkent.com/rontech.html], to hereby bestow upon Leif all rights (and obligations) to the title of Ld.D congratulations Leif, Lyn Arch wrote: Leif, more likely a topic for a LL.D candidate. It will take a 'Philadelphia lawyer' to sort this all out. The wood may be 'cut and dried', but the physical chemistry sure isn't. De-natured alcohol can wait while I do tests on the natured stuff. A wee dram of fully-natured ethanol, once exposed to peat smoke, is best for my good nature. Turn to Safety, Arch Fortiter http://community.webtv.net/almcc/MacsMusings |
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Lyn, Seconded and so moved.
Congratulations Dr. Soapy, keep up your wishy-washy good works, sir. If you continue your fine myopic attitude, we might consider you for Junior COC? Not so fast Arch, we need to consult Kevin Miller before this gets out of hand. Turn to Safety, Arch Fortiter http://community.webtv.net/almcc/MacsMusings |
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Lyn J. Mangiameli wrote:
Arch, A wonderful new honorific, most appropriate for the candidate. Might I be so bold as to suggest that we employ the powers of our doctorates and status as members of the Exclusive Order of the "COC", and in recognition of Leif's Dissertation "The Soap Solution" [archived he http://www.ronkent.com/rontech.html], to hereby bestow upon Leif all rights (and obligations) to the title of Ld.D congratulations Leif, Lyn Arch wrote: Leif, more likely a topic for a LL.D candidate. It will take a 'Philadelphia lawyer' to sort this all out. The wood may be 'cut and dried', but the physical chemistry sure isn't. De-natured alcohol can wait while I do tests on the natured stuff. A wee dram of fully-natured ethanol, once exposed to peat smoke, is best for my good nature. Here here! I'll second that Lyn. Darn it though, I wish I was present to help Arch with his ethynol research. Enjoy the rewards of fame and fortune likely to follow Leif. Well deserved... ....Kevin -- Kevin Miller http://www.alaska.net/~atftb Juneau, Alaska |
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"Millers" wrote in message ... Lyn J. Mangiameli wrote: Arch, A wonderful new honorific, most appropriate for the candidate. Might I be so bold as to suggest that we employ the powers of our doctorates and status as members of the Exclusive Order of the "COC", and in recognition of Leif's Dissertation "The Soap Solution" [archived he http://www.ronkent.com/rontech.html], to hereby bestow upon Leif all rights (and obligations) to the title of Ld.D congratulations Leif, Lyn Arch wrote: Leif, more likely a topic for a LL.D candidate. It will take a 'Philadelphia lawyer' to sort this all out. The wood may be 'cut and dried', but the physical chemistry sure isn't. De-natured alcohol can wait while I do tests on the natured stuff. A wee dram of fully-natured ethanol, once exposed to peat smoke, is best for my good nature. Here here! I'll second that Lyn. Darn it though, I wish I was present to help Arch with his ethynol research. Enjoy the rewards of fame and fortune likely to follow Leif. Well deserved... ...Kevin -- Kevin Miller http://www.alaska.net/~atftb Juneau, Alaska Thank you! Thank you! I humbly accept the "honor" being bestowed upon me, but I must insist that the honor be shared with R*n K*nt. He is the prophet! I, but his humble servant! Praise be his name! Leif Thorvaldson, Ld.D. (Hon.) |
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Arch wrote:
Lyn, Seconded and so moved. Congratulations Dr. Soapy, keep up your wishy-washy good works, sir. If you continue your fine myopic attitude, we might consider you for Junior COC? Not so fast Arch, we need to consult Kevin Miller before this gets out of hand. Turn to Safety, Arch Fortiter http://community.webtv.net/almcc/MacsMusings Hmmm. Having vociferously defended the use of LDD against all comers and displaying sufficient curmudgeonly attitude in the face of his detractors perhaps it would be a worthwhile endeavor. We also haven't had any 2004 awards yet to the best of my recollection. Therefore I think we should rectify this and welcome him into the Frateranal order of Curmudgeonly ol' Coots in good standing. But not before December 1st. Two awards in the same month might go to his head. Barring any objections, it's so ordered... ....Kevin -- Kevin Miller http://www.alaska.net/~atftb Juneau, Alaska |
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