In the past I've reported about one of our lifetime members being in the
hospital as a result of complications arising from turning Silky Oak...Last
night this member passed away...His name was George Snyder..

George was a parapalegic and very active in both the handicapped arena and
turning world locally..George was a disabled vet and never let this stand in
his way to get around in this world..I will always remember him for his
gentle guidance and caring for the less fortunate,George was truly a kind
and caring soul and will be missed by all in South Florida...

Rick Pixley
President Gold Coast Woodturners

I'm saddened and sorry to hear of the loss.

What evidence was there for the complications attributable to the turning of
Silky Oak wood? I'm very interested in this type of thing and would
appreciate some contact information for maybe the doctor who diagnosed this.

- Andrew




wrote in message
...
In the past I've reported about one of our lifetime members being in the
hospital as a result of complications arising from turning Silky
Oak...Last
night this member passed away...His name was George Snyder..

George was a parapalegic and very active in both the handicapped arena and
turning world locally..George was a disabled vet and never let this stand
in
his way to get around in this world..I will always remember him for his
gentle guidance and caring for the less fortunate,George was truly a kind
and caring soul and will be missed by all in South Florida...

Rick Pixley
President Gold Coast Woodturners

Several members of the Arizona woodturners association including myself have
had reactions to Silk Oak. Some were hospitalized and others were treated
through out-patient. The symptoms don't start for at least a week after
contact with the wood/dust. I tried Benadryl and other over the counter
remedies to no avail. I then went to our family Dr. who gave me a dose pack
of steroids which didn't help. Two days later I went to the emergency room
for a steroid shot and another dose pack of steroids. I did not sleep for
three days because of the most intense itching I could imagine. It felt like
I was being poked with hundreds of 16 penny nails, it was a deep DEEP
horrible itch!!! and the affected areas swelled up.

It's not worth taking a chance on a wood species that has caused this much
misery in so many people.

Sorry to hear about your loss.

AZCRAIG

www.azcraig.us

wrote in message
...
In the past I've reported about one of our lifetime members being in the
hospital as a result of complications arising from turning Silky
Oak...Last
night this member passed away...His name was George Snyder..

George was a parapalegic and very active in both the handicapped arena and
turning world locally..George was a disabled vet and never let this stand
in
his way to get around in this world..I will always remember him for his
gentle guidance and caring for the less fortunate,George was truly a kind
and caring soul and will be missed by all in South Florida...

Rick Pixley
President Gold Coast Woodturners

"cm" wrote in
:

Several members of the Arizona woodturners association including
myself have had reactions to Silk Oak. Some were hospitalized and
others were treated through out-patient. The symptoms don't start for
at least a week after contact with the wood/dust. I tried Benadryl and
other over the counter remedies to no avail. I then went to our family
Dr. who gave me a dose pack of steroids which didn't help. Two days
later I went to the emergency room for a steroid shot and another dose
pack of steroids. I did not sleep for three days because of the most
intense itching I could imagine. It felt like I was being poked with
hundreds of 16 penny nails, it was a deep DEEP horrible itch!!! and
the affected areas swelled up.

It's not worth taking a chance on a wood species that has caused this
much misery in so many people.

Sorry to hear about your loss.

AZCRAIG

www.azcraig.us

wrote in message
...
In the past I've reported about one of our lifetime members being in
the hospital as a result of complications arising from turning Silky
Oak...Last
night this member passed away...His name was George Snyder..

George was a parapalegic and very active in both the handicapped
arena and turning world locally..George was a disabled vet and never
let this stand
in
his way to get around in this world..I will always remember him for
his gentle guidance and caring for the less fortunate,George was
truly a kind and caring soul and will be missed by all in South
Florida...

Rick Pixley
President Gold Coast Woodturners






Are Silk Oak and Lacewood the same species? Reason I ask is that I have a
few BF of Lacewood waiting for the right project and, if it is the same
as Silk Oak, it may wait a Lot longer.

Hope all of the other afflicted folks are doing well.

"Nissan Teman" wrote in message

Silky Oak is a tree originally from Australia, also known as
Grevillea robusta.
Lacewood is another Australian tree, Cardwellia sublimis. Both are
Proteaceae,
of the protea family, but the woods are quite different in
appearance. I have turned quite a bit of Silky Oak-Grevillea, always
being sure to wear a facemask and keep myself well covered, and so far
no problems. It is a beautiful wood, and easy to work and finish. But
after reading of many others having had serious allergic reactions to
the wood, I think I will refrain from using it in the future.
Nissan Teman
Pardes Hanna, Israel

Helpful post, Nissan. Thanks.

Question: Is Silky Oak really that compelling as to be desirable as a
turning wood? What is the appearance?

Max

(Nissan Teman) wrote in
om:

Lobby Dosser wrote in message
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Are Silk Oak and Lacewood the same species? Reason I ask is that I
have a few BF of Lacewood waiting for the right project and, if it is
the same as Silk Oak, it may wait a Lot longer.

Hope all of the other afflicted folks are doing well.

Silky Oak is a tree originally from Australia, also known as
Grevillea robusta.
Lacewood is another Australian tree, Cardwellia sublimis. Both are
Proteaceae,
of the protea family, but the woods are quite different in
appearance. I have turned quite a bit of Silky Oak-Grevillea, always
being sure to wear a facemask and keep myself well covered, and so far
no problems. It is a beautiful wood, and easy to work and finish. But
after reading of many others having had serious allergic reactions to
the wood, I think I will refrain from using it in the future.
Nissan Teman
Pardes Hanna, Israel

Thanks for the information. I think that I will also refrain from turning
these woods. The Lacewood I have is a few boards and I think I may just
work it with hand tools. A more enjoyable way to work and, if I don't
sand, I'll have more control over contact.

LD

Add to that list the American Sycamore (a close cousin to the London Plane
you mentioned below). I know that the companies that I sell my spalted
Sycamore logs too, market some of the lumber cuts as "Lacewood".

- Andrew


There are a considerable number of woods marketed variously as
"lacewood," and "leopardwood" including London plane, (Platanus
hybrida) ; the Cardwellia sublimis you mentioned, Yellow Lacewood,
(Polyalthia oblongifolia), and South American Lacewood, (Roupala
Brasilensis) to name a few. If you bought it in the States, there's a
good chance you have the South/Central American variety of lacewood.

I have also seen Cardwellia listed as "silky oak," so you can never be
sure what you're getting unless you are familiar with all the various
species, and even then you might have to do a more detailed
examination.


--
Chuck *#:^)

On 23 Jun 2004 00:51:53 -0700, (Nissan Teman)
wrote:

Are Silk Oak and Lacewood the same species? Reason I ask is that I have a
few BF of Lacewood waiting for the right project and, if it is the same
as Silk Oak, it may wait a Lot longer.

Silky Oak is a tree originally from Australia, also known as
Grevillea robusta.
Lacewood is another Australian tree, Cardwellia sublimis. Both are
Proteaceae,
of the protea family, but the woods are quite different in
appearance.

There are a considerable number of woods marketed variously as
"lacewood," and "leopardwood" including London plane, (Platanus
hybrida) ; the Cardwellia sublimis you mentioned, Yellow Lacewood,
(Polyalthia oblongifolia), and South American Lacewood, (Roupala
Brasilensis) to name a few. If you bought it in the States, there's a
good chance you have the South/Central American variety of lacewood.

I have also seen Cardwellia listed as "silky oak," so you can never be
sure what you're getting unless you are familiar with all the various
species, and even then you might have to do a more detailed
examination.


--
Chuck *#:^)
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here's an example of a bowl from this (or maybe it was sheaoak - I was never
sure)
http://www.woodturners.org/gallery/n...ilky-oak-1.jpg

it cost me about $300 in doctors bills by the time I had recovered, I
reacted as if I had rolled naked in a huge pile of poison oak - but the box
does look nice



"
Helpful post, Nissan. Thanks.

Question: Is Silky Oak really that compelling as to be desirable as a
turning wood? What is the appearance?

Max

"william_b_noble" wrote in message
here's an example of a bowl from this (or maybe it was sheaoak - I was
never
sure)
http://www.woodturners.org/gallery/n...ilky-oak-1.jpg

it cost me about $300 in doctors bills by the time I had recovered, I
reacted as if I had rolled naked in a huge pile of poison oak - but the
box
does look nice

Ouch. But the box is beautiful and the wood attractive. But forewarned is
forearmed.

Max