Both the Hunter and the Eliminator have left me with the urge to try
out yet another member of the latest trend (after the ci1) but prices
are still a bit steep. Both sell their tips for around 20 usd while
industrial carbide inserts can be had for about a sixth of that (10
for 35$). Problem is, the industrial inserts dont seem to be that
sharp along the edge and sharpening them seems out of the question.
Im interested to hear from anyone with positive results with a DIY
tool of this sort.
thx,
Max
a possible source? http://www.carbidedepot.com/Dynamicl...ategoryID=4285

On Feb 22, 5:55*am, Max63 wrote:
Both the Hunter and the Eliminator have left me with the urge to try
out yet another member of the latest trend (after the ci1) but prices
are still a bit steep. Both sell their tips for around 20 usd while
industrial carbide inserts can be had for about a sixth of that (10
for 35$). Problem is, the industrial inserts dont seem to be that
sharp along the edge and sharpening them seems out of the question.
Im interested to hear from anyone with positive results with a DIY
tool of this sort.
thx,
Max
a possible source? *http://www.carbidedepot.com/Dynamicl...ategoryID=4285

Actually, sharpening carbide IS possible, with a green
wheel. It does work, and I have sharpened several
of my carbide tipped wood turning tools.

John

look at any supplier to the metal working industry - for example, enco
(www.use-enco.com), MSC, and so on. There are places that reshapen carbides
too, a guy in san diego sells on ebay. And, I've dealt with a place in
Colorado, see below, that has a lot of surplus carbide right now

LIQUIDATION SALE! Surplus Kennametal Carbide Inserts

[http://www.cetsonline.com/]
PHONE: (800)769-3343 | FAX: (800)697-3343 | WEB: www.CETSonline.com



expect to pay $5 to $50 each depending on size, shape, coating, and such
details.


"Max63" wrote in message
...
Both the Hunter and the Eliminator have left me with the urge to try
out yet another member of the latest trend (after the ci1) but prices
are still a bit steep. Both sell their tips for around 20 usd while
industrial carbide inserts can be had for about a sixth of that (10
for 35$). Problem is, the industrial inserts dont seem to be that
sharp along the edge and sharpening them seems out of the question.
Im interested to hear from anyone with positive results with a DIY
tool of this sort.
thx,
Max
a possible source?
http://www.carbidedepot.com/Dynamicl...ategoryID=4285

On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 02:55:31 -0800 (PST), Max63 wrote:

Both the Hunter and the Eliminator have left me with the urge to try
out yet another member of the latest trend (after the ci1) but prices
are still a bit steep. Both sell their tips for around 20 usd while
industrial carbide inserts can be had for about a sixth of that (10
for 35$). Problem is, the industrial inserts dont seem to be that
sharp along the edge and sharpening them seems out of the question.
Im interested to hear from anyone with positive results with a DIY
tool of this sort.
thx,
Max
a possible source? http://www.carbidedepot.com/Dynamicl...ategoryID=4285

No experience with sources other than Craft Supplies and Packard Woodworking,
but for me, $20 or $25 for a replacement tip is not a bad deal..
I have the Mega Eliminator and have done several "tool abusive" projects with
it, mostly in sand-impregnated ironwood, and just put the 2nd cutter on..

I could have done 3 or 4 more projects with the original cutter, if one of the
shop cats hadn't knocked the tool off the lathe, chipping the carbide..

As to making your own tool, I'd think it would depend on what you're going to
use it for and how often..
For curved hollowing tools and simple things, it should be easy..
Personally, though I make a few of my own tools, I wouldn't try to make my own
Eliminator...
By the time I found and bought the 3/4" stainless steel for the body, learned
metal working, machined the shape and the 2 flats that maintain the shear angle
and reproduced the cutter holder, I could buy the tool and 2 extra cutters for
$200 and be turning and selling for months before needing replacements... YMWV


mac

Please remove splinters before emailing

I sent this post, and the one by Arch a few pages down to Mike Hunter
of Hunter tools. These metal cutting carbide tips are different from
the ones he sells. First, his are the micro/nano grain cutters which
are much finer than the metal ones, and his also have a vacuum chamber
applied coating on them. I suppose you could try one out to compare,
but before you buy, see if they are the micro grained ones. They do
have a coating applied.
robo hippy

On Feb 22, 10:57*am, mac davis wrote:
On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 02:55:31 -0800 (PST), Max63 wrote:
Both the Hunter and the Eliminator have left me with the urge to try
out yet another member of the latest trend (after the ci1) but prices
are still a bit steep. Both sell their tips for around 20 usd while
industrial carbide inserts can be had for about a sixth of that (10
for 35$). Problem is, the industrial inserts dont seem to be that
sharp along the edge and sharpening them seems out of the question.
Im interested to hear from anyone with positive results with a DIY
tool of this sort.
thx,
Max
a possible source? *http://www.carbidedepot.com/Dynamicl...ategoryID=4285

No experience with sources other than Craft Supplies and Packard Woodworking,
but for me, $20 or $25 for a replacement tip is not a bad deal..
I have the Mega Eliminator and have done several "tool abusive" projects with
it, mostly in sand-impregnated ironwood, and just put the 2nd cutter on..

I could have done 3 or 4 more projects with the original cutter, if one of the
shop cats hadn't knocked the tool off the lathe, chipping the carbide..

As to making your own tool, I'd think it would depend on what you're going to
use it for and how often..
For curved hollowing tools and simple things, it should be easy..
Personally, though I make a few of my own tools, I wouldn't try to make my own
Eliminator...
By the time I found and bought the 3/4" stainless steel for the body, learned
metal working, machined the shape and the 2 flats that maintain the shear angle
and reproduced the cutter holder, I could buy the tool and 2 extra cutters for
$200 and be turning and selling for months before needing replacements... YMWV

mac

Please remove splinters before emailing

I've bought some on eBay... It can take a bit of searching, because
they don't always indicate "round" in their descriptions...

Typically, you'll find them in larger quantities than you might want,
however. I've got 16mm, 12mm, 10mm, and 8mm, though haven't made up
tools for all of them yet. One of the 16mm ones is currently on a tool
I used to use with HSS, and would have to sharpen the HSS disc often.
the 8mm ones are great for a pro-carver disk I have for an angle grinder
(don't recall the brand name of the pro-carver).

They aren't razor sharp when you get them because they are designed for
metal, though by putting a #10 screw through the center and chucking in
in a hand drill, it's easy to touch up the edge with a diamond
file/paddle. I've got about 5 hours on the first 16mm carbide one right
now, and haven't even rotated it yet... Touching up the edge with a
diamond paddle takes off the yellow coating though, but I don't think it
matters for wood.

The wood tool sellers make a big deal about "nano-grain", though I
really don't think it makes a difference, as we're not cutting steel
here, only wood, so even an interrupted cut doesn't cause nearly the
force or shock that a typical insert sees in metalworking use.

If you don't find any at a decent price or quantity, drop me an email...
I'll be willing to sell some of any of the above sizes for $3.00 each
plus the cost of postage. I'll sell them as I got them, so if you feel
they need a razor edge, you'll need to touch them up yourself.

Thanks
--Rick

Max63 wrote:
Both the Hunter and the Eliminator have left me with the urge to try
out yet another member of the latest trend (after the ci1) but prices
are still a bit steep. Both sell their tips for around 20 usd while
industrial carbide inserts can be had for about a sixth of that (10
for 35$). Problem is, the industrial inserts dont seem to be that
sharp along the edge and sharpening them seems out of the question.
Im interested to hear from anyone with positive results with a DIY
tool of this sort.
thx,
Max
a possible source? http://www.carbidedepot.com/Dynamicl...ategoryID=4285

On Sunday, February 22, 2009 3:55:31 AM UTC-7, Max63 wrote:
Both the Hunter and the Eliminator have left me with the urge to try
out yet another member of the latest trend (after the ci1) but prices
are still a bit steep. Both sell their tips for around 20 usd while
industrial carbide inserts can be had for about a sixth of that (10
for 35$). Problem is, the industrial inserts dont seem to be that
sharp along the edge and sharpening them seems out of the question.
Im interested to hear from anyone with positive results with a DIY
tool of this sort.
thx,
Max
a possible source? http://www.carbidedepot.com/Dynamicl...ategoryID=4285

Hello,
This eBay store has a good selection of Carbide Inserts for wood at a reasonable price. Link: http://stores.ebay.com/AZ-Carbide-Inserts-for-Wood
Regards
Dale

On Fri, 8 Nov 2013 13:57:15 -0800 (PST), wrote:
The prices on the link are ok, but all of those inserts are for the
EZ/ Woodchuck tools...
None will work with the Eliminator or Hunter tools, wrong cutting
edge...


On Sunday, February 22, 2009 3:55:31 AM UTC-7, Max63 wrote:
Both the Hunter and the Eliminator have left me with the urge to try
out yet another member of the latest trend (after the ci1) but prices
are still a bit steep. Both sell their tips for around 20 usd while
industrial carbide inserts can be had for about a sixth of that (10
for 35$). Problem is, the industrial inserts dont seem to be that
sharp along the edge and sharpening them seems out of the question.
Im interested to hear from anyone with positive results with a DIY
tool of this sort.
thx,
Max
a possible source? http://www.carbidedepot.com/Dynamicl...ategoryID=4285

Hello,
This eBay store has a good selection of Carbide Inserts for wood at a reasonable price. Link: http://stores.ebay.com/AZ-Carbide-Inserts-for-Wood
Regards
Dale

On 11/8/2013 9:23 PM, Mac Davis wrote:
On Fri, 8 Nov 2013 13:57:15 -0800 (PST), wrote:
The prices on the link are ok, but all of those inserts are for the
EZ/ Woodchuck tools...
None will work with the Eliminator or Hunter tools, wrong cutting
edge...


On Sunday, February 22, 2009 3:55:31 AM UTC-7, Max63 wrote:
Both the Hunter and the Eliminator have left me with the urge to try
out yet another member of the latest trend (after the ci1) but prices
are still a bit steep. Both sell their tips for around 20 usd while
industrial carbide inserts can be had for about a sixth of that (10
for 35$). Problem is, the industrial inserts dont seem to be that
sharp along the edge and sharpening them seems out of the question.
Im interested to hear from anyone with positive results with a DIY
tool of this sort.
thx,
Max
a possible source? http://www.carbidedepot.com/Dynamicl...ategoryID=4285

Hello,
This eBay store has a good selection of Carbide Inserts for wood at a reasonable price. Link: http://stores.ebay.com/AZ-Carbide-Inserts-for-Wood
Regards
Dale


carbide for metal cutting is intentionally rounded on the leading edge
to extend life. For wood, you need much more sharpness except for roughing

Round flat carbide inserts can be sharpened, I do it all the time.

Use one of those cheapo diamond honers, wet the hone well with water, lay
the tip on it cutting side down and just rub it back and forwards a few
times. Works for me.

Tom

On Fri, 08 Nov 2013 21:36:00 -0800, "." wrote:

On 11/8/2013 9:23 PM, Mac Davis wrote:
On Fri, 8 Nov 2013 13:57:15 -0800 (PST), wrote:
The prices on the link are ok, but all of those inserts are for the
EZ/ Woodchuck tools...
None will work with the Eliminator or Hunter tools, wrong cutting
edge...


On Sunday, February 22, 2009 3:55:31 AM UTC-7, Max63 wrote:
Both the Hunter and the Eliminator have left me with the urge to try
out yet another member of the latest trend (after the ci1) but prices
are still a bit steep. Both sell their tips for around 20 usd while
industrial carbide inserts can be had for about a sixth of that (10
for 35$). Problem is, the industrial inserts dont seem to be that
sharp along the edge and sharpening them seems out of the question.
Im interested to hear from anyone with positive results with a DIY
tool of this sort.
thx,
Max
a possible source? http://www.carbidedepot.com/Dynamicl...ategoryID=4285

Hello,
This eBay store has a good selection of Carbide Inserts for wood at a reasonable price. Link: http://stores.ebay.com/AZ-Carbide-Inserts-for-Wood
Regards
Dale


carbide for metal cutting is intentionally rounded on the leading edge
to extend life. For wood, you need much more sharpness except for roughing

It doesn't make a lot of difference if it doesn't fit the tool.... If
you look at these and at a Hunter insert you'll see that they're
totally different..