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Can I run glued up ring in my plainer if I use a sled ?
Or would cross grain throw it at me like the 1in. strip of pine with a knot I ran on edge that went into cement block wall ? Jr |
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A planer might work, but I would be worried about tearout, and the
ring just blowing up. If you have a drum sander, that will work a lot better. robo hippy On Nov 16, 5:33 am, Ralph E Lindberg wrote: In article , (Jerry - OHIO) wrote: Can I run glued up ring in my plainer if I use a sled ? Or would cross grain throw it at me like the 1in. strip of pine with a knot I ran on edge that went into cement block wall ? Jr I will bet cross grain tearout will be an issue. -- -------------------------------------------------------- Personal e-mail is the n7bsn but at amsat.org This posting address is a spam-trap and seldom read RV and Camping FAQ can be found athttp://www.ralphandellen.us/rv |
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A glued-up ring is very fragile, because all the glue joints are end-grain joints.. I would think it would explode in a planer, but I've never tried it myself. I use a 12" disk sander (on the lathe) to true one face, then true the other, after it's glued on, with a gouge. |
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Jerry - OHIO wrote:
Can I run glued up ring in my plainer if I use a sled ? Or would cross grain throw it at me like the 1in. strip of pine with a knot I ran on edge that went into cement block wall ? Jr I wouldn't try it. If you have a drill press take a look at the "Safety Planer": http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx?FamilyID=3189 -- Jack Novak Buffalo, NY - USA |
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I've researched this a bit. Beside the fragility and tearout issues
there is the problem of snipe unless passed through on a sled of some kind. The other major problem for me was that either a planer or sander was high cost. I can't justify $500 for the amount I would use the tool. I've used a 3/4" router mortising bit in the drill press and the safety planer and both work acceptably, if a bit slow. The solution I finally came up with works wonderfully well and is fast. I mount the ring in my Cole jaws, true one side, flip it and true the other. Sometimes I true only the first side then wait till it's glued up and then true the other. |
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On Nov 16, 4:30 am, (Jerry - OHIO) wrote:
Can I run glued up ring in my plainer if I use a sled ? Or would cross grain throw it at me like the 1in. strip of pine with a knot I ran on edge that went into cement block wall ? Jr Hi Jerry, The best way to flatten rings is with a performax. I've seen plans on the net for building one. Next best would be a disc sander. That works well but you can't get an even thickness unless your very careful. Before I had a performax I used to flatten rings with a 12" disc stuck to a piece of countertop. This method is slow but it works fine. I've also glued the ring to a plywood disk mounted on a faceplate and trued them on the lathe. Just start with a thicker ring. I tried the planer method but that didn't work well at all. Lots of tearout. Bob http://www.outofcontrol-woodturning.com |
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Hi Jerry
I would use a sander, I have a link here for a V-drum sander you can build yourself, pretty low cost and works very well. These people do the wood shows and have sold these sanders for years, also a good place for abrasives. No affiliation, just good products and service. http://www.stockroomsupply.com/V_Drum_Sander.php Have fun and take care Leo Van Der Loo On Nov 16, 4:30 am, (Jerry - OHIO) wrote: Can I run glued up ring in my plainer if I use a sled ? Or would cross grain throw it at me like the 1in. strip of pine with a knot I ran on edge that went into cement block wall ? Jr |
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Thanks for the info.
It gave me a great idea,now where is that rolling pin & old tread mill the old lady doesn't use any more. I see a new tool for the work bench !!!! Jr. http://community.webtv.net/awoodbutcher/THENORTHCOASTPT http://community.webtv.net/awoodbutcher/Myfavoritejob |
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, robo hippy wrote: A planer might work, but I would be worried about tearout, and the ring just blowing up. If you have a drum sander, that will work a lot better. robo hippy That's what I use (the sander) -- -------------------------------------------------------- Personal e-mail is the n7bsn but at amsat.org This posting address is a spam-trap and seldom read RV and Camping FAQ can be found at http://www.ralphandellen.us/rv |
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Can I run glued up ring in my plainer if I use a sled ? Or would cross grain throw it at me like the 1in. strip of pine with a knot I ran on edge that went into cement block wall ? Jr I've always wanted to try that, but believe that it would wouldn't work in a particularly spectacular way. So, if you do decide to try it, grab your camcorder and post a video to youtube so we can all enjoy the excitement from the safety of this side of a computer monitor. :-) I've long wished I had one of those benchtop drum sanders for just such a task. I true up the rings on the lathe which does OK, but it would be nice to have a drum sander to do a final pass with like this one: http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx...s=2042&pcs=fam Just can't justify the $540. Not that that ever stopped me before. Hmmm, where's that checkbook? ....Kevin -- Kevin Miller http://www.alaska.net/~atftb Juneau, Alaska Registered Linux User No: 307357 |
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"Ralph E Lindberg" wrote in message
... In article , robo hippy wrote: A planer might work, but I would be worried about tearout, and the ring just blowing up. If you have a drum sander, that will work a lot better. robo hippy That's what I use (the sander) I actually sanded the edges of a 19-sided glued cylinder today. I clamped my belt sander upside down on the bench and sanded to the carefully drawn ring I pencilled around it. It worked nicely. - Owen - |
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