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aaarrrghh - speaking of stupid mistakes
I have been slowly making a prototype giant spur drive to send to a fellow
turner for testing - it's an excuse to play with my mill and learn how to use it- well, there were plenty of learning experiences, but here's one I did't expect - when I got done, I discovered I'd made a giant spur drive for reverse turning only - in other words, the slope of the kife blades was backwards - grrrr - I guess there really are times when a drawing would help. But, at least I now have an extra box full of metal shavings to mix with the wood shavings...... -- bill to email me, to to my web page, www.wbnoble.com and find my email or unscramble the following by removing spaces and correcting the obvious spelling errors wil lia m_b_n obl e at msn daught com -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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aaarrrghh - speaking of stupid mistakes
Hi Bill
So You do screw up too, Ha. Maybe you can sent it to Wally D, He uses a reverse turning lathe apparently, as he wants to turn left handed, and had a lathe build with left hand thread I'm told. Have fun and take care Leo Van Der Loo Bill wrote: I have been slowly making a prototype giant spur drive to send to a fellow turner for testing - it's an excuse to play with my mill and learn how to use it- well, there were plenty of learning experiences, but here's one I did't expect - when I got done, I discovered I'd made a giant spur drive for reverse turning only - in other words, the slope of the kife blades was backwards - grrrr - I guess there really are times when a drawing would help. But, at least I now have an extra box full of metal shavings to mix with the wood shavings...... -- bill to email me, to to my web page, www.wbnoble.com and find my email or unscramble the following by removing spaces and correcting the obvious spelling errors wil lia m_b_n obl e at msn daught com -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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aaarrrghh - speaking of stupid mistakes
On 15 Aug 2006 01:06:51 -0700, "
wrote: Hi Bill So You do screw up too, Ha. Maybe you can sent it to Wally D, He uses a reverse turning lathe apparently, as he wants to turn left handed, and had a lathe build with left hand thread I'm told. Yeah, but I'll bet Bill's "left hand" spur center has a right hand thread... -- LRod Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999 http://www.woodbutcher.net Proud participant of rec.woodworking since February, 1997 email addy de-spam-ified due to 1,000 spams per month. If you can't figure out how to use it, I probably wouldn't care to correspond with you anyway. |
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aaarrrghh - speaking of stupid mistakes
On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 00:29:35 -0700, "Bill" wrote:
Iwhen I got done, I discovered I'd made a giant spur drive for reverse turning only - in other words, the slope of the kife blades was I knew a woodworker who got a commission to build a seating bench for a church foyer....he studied the plans, decided he understood the dimensions, and proceeded to build the whole thing. When he was done, he did a double check of all the specs....and yep, he had done it mirror image....right-handed instead of left. I think he kept it after he re-did it for the customer. It ain't exactly stupid, but it does pay to triple-check some things.... |
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aaarrrghh - speaking of stupid mistakes
Bill, I've made that same mistake and too frugal to throw it away. Try
mounting a big piece of scrap on your mistake then carefuly and safely make a big delberate catch. You may have invented a better safety drive for holding large blanks than a dead ring or Steb center. Some turners for comfort and to see the wall better like to reverse the spindle and turn open interiors from across the bed on the opposite side. Locking a RH threaded holding device to the spindle, of course. What mill do you have? I may have some extra cutters and tooling for it. Turn to Safety, Arch Fortiter http://community.webtv.net/almcc/MacsMusings |
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aaarrrghh - speaking of stupid mistakes
On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 00:29:35 -0700, "Bill" wrote:
I have been slowly making a prototype giant spur drive to send to a fellow turner for testing - it's an excuse to play with my mill and learn how to use it- well, there were plenty of learning experiences, but here's one I did't expect - when I got done, I discovered I'd made a giant spur drive for reverse turning only - in other words, the slope of the kife blades was backwards - grrrr - I guess there really are times when a drawing would help. But, at least I now have an extra box full of metal shavings to mix with the wood shavings...... hmm.... not a lot of demand for outboard spur drives, Bill... *g* I don't know if this is true, but supposedly when someone asked Edison how it felt to fail over 1,000 times before getting a bulb to light, he said something like "I never failed, I just found 1,000 ways that didn't work"... Maybe the metal shavings would sell on Ebay as magic show accessories for magnets?? Mac https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis/wood_stuff.htm |
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On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 07:17:06 -0700, mac davis
wrote: On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 00:29:35 -0700, "Bill" wrote: I have been slowly making a prototype giant spur drive to send to a fellow turner for testing - it's an excuse to play with my mill and learn how to use it- well, there were plenty of learning experiences, but here's one I did't expect - when I got done, I discovered I'd made a giant spur drive for reverse turning only - in other words, the slope of the kife blades was backwards - grrrr - I guess there really are times when a drawing would help. But, at least I now have an extra box full of metal shavings to mix with the wood shavings...... hmm.... not a lot of demand for outboard spur drives, Bill... *g* I don't know if this is true, but supposedly when someone asked Edison how it felt to fail over 1,000 times before getting a bulb to light, he said something like "I never failed, I just found 1,000 ways that didn't work"... Maybe the metal shavings would sell on Ebay as magic show accessories for magnets?? Nah. Metal shavings will sell to any scrap dealer by the ton. If you start using that mill a lot, it'd pay to make a plywood box about the size of a pallet, and save them up- they add up quickly. A lot of guys make a good deal of $$$ just collecting that kind of scrap. |
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aaarrrghh - speaking of stupid mistakes
"Bill" wrote in message .. . I have been slowly making a prototype giant spur drive to send to a fellow turner for testing - it's an excuse to play with my mill and learn how to use it- well, there were plenty of learning experiences, but here's one I did't expect - when I got done, I discovered I'd made a giant spur drive for reverse turning only - in other words, the slope of the kife blades was backwards - grrrr - I guess there really are times when a drawing would help. But, at least I now have an extra box full of metal shavings to mix with the wood shavings...... -- bill to email me, to to my web page, www.wbnoble.com and find my email or unscramble the following by removing spaces and correcting the obvious spelling errors wil lia m_b_n obl e at msn daught com -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Lot of folks will do anything for reverse rotation on a lathe.....to get smoother sanding of course! Don't throw it out just yet. I can't use it but maybe someone can. Especially if you make an identical forward turning mate for it. Sell them as a set. Just a thought. Good luck Lyndell |
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aaarrrghh - speaking of stupid mistakes
right you are, LRod - so it will be useless no matter what you do - well, I
did run it through the mill again and removed the top of the teeth and got it so it ought to work - but speaking of feeling stupid....... "LRod" wrote in message ... On 15 Aug 2006 01:06:51 -0700, " wrote: Hi Bill So You do screw up too, Ha. Maybe you can sent it to Wally D, He uses a reverse turning lathe apparently, as he wants to turn left handed, and had a lathe build with left hand thread I'm told. Yeah, but I'll bet Bill's "left hand" spur center has a right hand thread... -- LRod Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999 http://www.woodbutcher.net Proud participant of rec.woodworking since February, 1997 email addy de-spam-ified due to 1,000 spams per month. If you can't figure out how to use it, I probably wouldn't care to correspond with you anyway. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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aaarrrghh - speaking of stupid mistakes
my mill is an Abene from the early 70s, (1970s, not 1870s) - it's Swiss
made, combination horizontal/vertical, with 6 hp spindle motor (18 speeds) and a 2 hp table motor (3 axis) - it uses a NMTB-40 taper in the spindle - it's a about 4X heavier than my Stubby lathe - "Arch" wrote in message ... Bill, I've made that same mistake and too frugal to throw it away. Try mounting a big piece of scrap on your mistake then carefuly and safely make a big delberate catch. You may have invented a better safety drive for holding large blanks than a dead ring or Steb center. Some turners for comfort and to see the wall better like to reverse the spindle and turn open interiors from across the bed on the opposite side. Locking a RH threaded holding device to the spindle, of course. What mill do you have? I may have some extra cutters and tooling for it. Turn to Safety, Arch Fortiter http://community.webtv.net/almcc/MacsMusings -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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aaarrrghh - speaking of stupid mistakes
aaah, let me guess, LH spur with RH thread, and then RH spur with LH
thread - a useless pair. Put them on a pedestal and label them with the names of two prominent political parties, or your in-laws, or .... to paraphrase Gloria Steinem, "a turner needs a LH spur drive like a fish needs a bicycle"..... At least I learned several things about how to destroy an end mill - it's amazing how much heat a dull tool can make with 6 HP turning it......I'm getting smarter by the hour, I guess. bill "Lyndell Thompson" wrote in message ink.net... "Bill" wrote in message .. . I have been slowly making a prototype giant spur drive to send to a fellow turner for testing - it's an excuse to play with my mill and learn how to use it- well, there were plenty of learning experiences, but here's one I did't expect - when I got done, I discovered I'd made a giant spur drive for reverse turning only - in other words, the slope of the kife blades was backwards - grrrr - I guess there really are times when a drawing would help. But, at least I now have an extra box full of metal shavings to mix with the wood shavings...... -- bill to email me, to to my web page, www.wbnoble.com and find my email or unscramble the following by removing spaces and correcting the obvious spelling errors wil lia m_b_n obl e at msn daught com -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Lot of folks will do anything for reverse rotation on a lathe.....to get smoother sanding of course! Don't throw it out just yet. I can't use it but maybe someone can. Especially if you make an identical forward turning mate for it. Sell them as a set. Just a thought. Good luck Lyndell -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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aaarrrghh - speaking of stupid mistakes
Hi Bill, I see that "learning how to use it" meant you were learning
how to use this particular machine, not learning how to mill. I thought you probably had a small homeshop mill. My fixtures are for a small vertical Clausing and a small horizontal Atlas. Could you put a double bevel on the spurs or would that just change it into a drill bit? I hate to give up. Turn to Safety, Arch Fortiter http://community.webtv.net/almcc/MacsMusings |
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aaarrrghh - speaking of stupid mistakes
yes, your suggestion is what I did - I cut a flat on the incorrectly beveled
side and then put a bevel on the flat side - it looks somewhat (well, it looks totally) pathetic, but it may actually work. I'm not making another one in that style, that's for sure - it just took waaaaaay to long to cut out all that metal - but that and some discussion on another group has given me another (maybe not better, we shall see) idea for a spur drive that can screw on - we shall see if that is any better..... "Arch" wrote in message ... Hi Bill, I see that "learning how to use it" meant you were learning how to use this particular machine, not learning how to mill. I thought you probably had a small homeshop mill. My fixtures are for a small vertical Clausing and a small horizontal Atlas. Could you put a double bevel on the spurs or would that just change it into a drill bit? I hate to give up. Turn to Safety, Arch Fortiter http://community.webtv.net/almcc/MacsMusings -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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aaarrrghh - speaking of stupid mistakes
Make a table using mortise and tenon joinery, or better yet
a chair. Even though I use the "Triangle Marking Method" for identifying which part goes where and how it's to be oriented, I've made more than one "left front" leg. Some can figure everything out in their head and then make it for real. Then there's folks like me - and you. . . charlie b |
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aaarrrghh - speaking of stupid mistakes
charlie b wrote:
Make a table using mortise and tenon joinery, or better yet a chair. Even though I use the "Triangle Marking Method" for identifying which part goes where and how it's to be oriented, I've made more than one "left front" leg. Some can figure everything out in their head and then make it for real. Then there's folks like me - and you. . . charlie b =====Think of it as being a fortuitous happening. Embrace the occurrence and make a second table or chair!*G* -- Leif |
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