1. I can tell when my gouge is as sharp as it can be by how well it is
cutting. I need to resharpen to find out because I can't compensate for
a borderline tool by good technique.


2. I can assure better quality by paying more. It's true, I usually get
what I pay for.
Quality doesn't cost, it pays, ...blah, blah!

3. I can produce a better finish by cutting than by scraping. Scraping
is for beginners and the faint of heart. To scrape when I could cut is
an admission.


4. Eating salad from a bowl with the wrong finish might poison me.
Carried to an absurdity nothing's safe. Why should I care about my
customer's safety, I'm not their keeper. It's only for legal reasons
that I make objects that are foodproof, fireproof, childproof and
idiotproof.


5. I can learn to turn without practicing. Books, tapes, lessons, the
net, demos etc. are all satisfying and fun, but really aren't necessary
for me to learn to turn. I don't need some expert insisting on his way.


6. With woodturning lathes, weight is always better, regardless of the
blank. There isn't a workshop or studio size lathe that's too heavy.
Keeping my auxiliary mini is a waste of space.


7. Cast iron is cast iron and hss is hss, no matter what part of the
world it comes from and Sheffield and Bethlehem steels are relics of
past glories. Balancing price and utility, M2 is the clearly the best
steel for my woodturning tools.


8. I can produce turned wood art without bothering to learn turned wood
craft. A plain well turned and finished bowl is passe'. I must have a
gimmick or add embellishment to succeed in today's marketplace. All
'Names' were once 'No
names' like me and since there's no such thing as a talent for turning,
hard work will assure my success.


9. I turn whatever I please for my own satisfaction and I really don't
care what others think about my work. Peers don't influence my choices.
Looking at outstanding turnings often depresses me.


10. I don't smoke and I'm not allergic to any timber, so I don't need to
worry about dust. Too much caution is unnecessary and ruins the pleasure
of my hobby, plus it slows production.


11. After treating 17 NIP blanks by the xxx method none cracked, so I'm
sure xxx works and no's.18 or19 won't crack. 'After that, because of
that' makes good sense.


12. I can't be doing much turning if I'm constantly posting to forums.
It's hard to tell 'turning know-how' got by turning from 'turning
informaton' got by reading. Book learning is better than so called
practical experience gained by making the same mistakes for years.


Turn to Safety, Arch
Fortiter



http://community.webtv.net/almcc/MacsMusings

Arch,

Great list. No disagreements here. And a few more.............

Sharpening jigs slow me down. They might improve my grind a little,
but they take too long to use to be worth the effort.

Sanding papers can be reused successfully over and over and over as
long as you keep the gunk cleaned out. They don't get dull - just
clogged.

The thinner the better. Only really thin turning shows your mastery of
the craft.

My face shield is more of a hazard than a safety device because it has
too many specs of CA, dirt and grime that just won't come off. Its
safer when you can see more clearly.

Critcal comments about my work are unnecessary. I know when my piece
is good or not and I know why it is so. Public discussion adds no help
so keep the ctitiques to yourself.


Joe Fleming - San Diego

"Arch" wrote in message
...
1. I can

2. I can

3. I can

4. I make
5. I can

SNIP as there's a real possibility of "I" strain.

Subjectivity seems to play a large role in art. Maybe that's why artists
are stereotyped as difficult (COCs?). Of course, part of this difficulty is
that they never admit the possibility of error on their part.

Craft has to speak for itself, sometimes even through a design which only
its creator could love. Errors are generally pretty obvious. The craftsman
will learn from them. The artist will not, of course, preferring to brand
those who see such things as error cretins.

Worst part about it - there are people who, in their eagerness to prove
themselves art lovers, will buy the crap, both product and pretension.

"Joe Fleming" wrote in message
oups.com...
Arch,

Great list. No disagreements here. And a few more.............

My face shield is more of a hazard than a safety device because it has
too many specs of CA, dirt and grime that just won't come off. Its
safer when you can see more clearly.

Illogicality:
This one is asking for hurt eyes, or worse.
I have a cracked and dented faceshield to prove you wrong.

But, I admit to putting the faceshield away when the roghing
and the heavy work is done, and the dust becomes a problem.


Critcal comments about my work are unnecessary. I know when my piece
is good or not and I know why it is so. Public discussion adds no help
so keep the ctitiques to yourself.

Illogicality.
Good for you.

Bjarte.

On Sat, 3 Dec 2005 13:11:52 -0500, (Arch) wrote:
2. I can assure better quality by paying more. It's true, I usually get
what I pay for.
Quality doesn't cost, it pays, ...blah, blah!

I always love this concept. Price has something to do with quality,
for sure, but good shopping is the best strategy. I will gladly pay
for a truly excellent tool, but I would much rather get it on sale or
from a pile of tools that I purchased in a box from a garage sale.

Caveat Emptor.

Mark

"George" George@least wrote in message
...

"Arch" wrote in message
...
SNIP ..............
Craft has to speak for itself, sometimes even through a design which only
its creator could love. Errors are generally pretty obvious. The
craftsman will learn from them. The artist will not, of course,
preferring to brand those who see such things as error cretins.

Worst part about it - there are people who, in their eagerness to prove
themselves art lovers, will buy the crap, both product and pretension.
==============================
The worst part of this scenario is that they go around bragging about it !!

Ken Moon
Webberville, TX.

"Bjarte Runderheim" wrote in message
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Illogicality:
This one is asking for hurt eyes, or worse.
I have a cracked and dented faceshield to prove you wrong.


Or not.

I have 25 years of turning with glasses to match your mask. Of course, it's
because of the way I turn, where I never stand in the throw zone, drop,
don't launch shavings, and gave up quickly on techniques of roughing which
involved spur centers.

People who talk about needing a tight collar on their clothes to keep
shavings from going down their necks puzzle me as well. I only know a
couple of ways to do that, and both of them make for lousy cuts.

But, I admit to putting the faceshield away when the roghing
and the heavy work is done, and the dust becomes a problem.

Visibility is less distorted, that's for sure, and you can have any dressing
on your salad that you care to without gagging.

"George" George@least wrote in message
...

"Bjarte Runderheim" wrote in message
...
Illogicality:
This one is asking for hurt eyes, or worse.
I have a cracked and dented faceshield to prove you wrong.


Or not.

I have 25 years of turning with glasses to match your mask. Of course,
it's because of the way I turn, where I never stand in the throw zone,
drop, don't launch shavings, and gave up quickly on techniques of roughing
which involved spur centers.

People who talk about needing a tight collar on their clothes to keep
shavings from going down their necks puzzle me as well. I only know a
couple of ways to do that, and both of them make for lousy cuts.

But, I admit to putting the faceshield away when the roghing
and the heavy work is done, and the dust becomes a problem.

Visibility is less distorted, that's for sure, and you can have any
dressing on your salad that you care to without gagging.


Would I be wrong in guessing that you have nail holes in your hands and
feet? No mere mortal can be this perfect.....chuckle
As to the shavings "dropping".... I looked at some of your postings. I see
one heck of a lot of shavings "dropped" randomly on the back wall behind
your lathe.......Hmmmmm Guess I was wrong about the nail holes after
all......
--

Regards,
M.J. (Mike) Orr
www.island.net/~morr

"George" George@least wrote:

"Bjarte Runderheim" wrote in message
...
Illogicality:
This one is asking for hurt eyes, or worse.
I have a cracked and dented faceshield to prove you wrong.


Or not.

I have 25 years of turning with glasses to match your mask. Of
course, it's because of the way I turn, where I never stand in the
throw zone, drop, don't launch shavings, and gave up quickly on
techniques of roughing which involved spur centers.


All it takes is One. No matter how many years preceded it. I never stand
in the throw zone, etc, etc, but a couple years ago I had a bowl blow up
on a hidden fault in the blank. Since I was turning at a fair clip,
pieces flew all over the shop - including one that caught me right at the
top of the mask and left a gouge in it.

Oh, and I also wear seatbelts.

"M.J." wrote in message
...
As to the shavings "dropping".... I looked at some of your postings. I
see one heck of a lot of shavings "dropped" randomly on the back wall
behind your lathe.......Hmmmmm Guess I was wrong about the nail holes
after all......

Well, you might want to consider what happens when a shaving drops on the
inside of a bowl. Flings that puppy out the back. That's why I like the
lathe up against the wall.

I know where your holes are, that's for sure.

George George@least wrote:


: But, I admit to putting the faceshield away when the roghing
: and the heavy work is done, and the dust becomes a problem.

: Visibility is less distorted, that's for sure, and you can have any dressing
: on your salad that you care to without gagging.


I was at a demo by Chris Stott a few years ago. He was turning a piece of wet
acacia, pretty even grained. In the finishing stages the bowl came apart,
and a piece was hurled 20 feet from the lathe and bounced off the wall behind me.
The piece is best described as a shard -- very pointy. I kept it as a reminder
to use my faceshield with any piece of size.

-- Andy Barss