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Sliding Down The Slippery Slope - Super Nova2 Chuck Add Ons
At this point of my slide down the slippery slope of turning,
I've paid for but not yet picked up a SuperNova2 chuch and the 1" 8TPI insert for my JET midi. [Woodcraft marketing folks are clever. I could buy it by the Thursday before their Labor Day Weekend No Sales Tax (8.25% savings around here) Sale on sale - $159.99 for the chuck at the sales price, - $ 24.99 for the insert at normal price +8.25% sales tax or wait and get it during the No Sales Tax Sale and buy it for the normal price but pay no sales tax - $199.99 for the chuck at the normal price - $ 24.99 for the insert at normal price WHY DON'T THEY JUST SAY $160 INSTEAD OF $159.99? Calculator says skip the No Sales Tax Sale, buy the chuck on sale at $160 and save $24.255 So now I've got another $24.255 to spend! Figure another set of jaws would come in handy. Will the "spigot" jaws come in handy for holding the "tenon"/dowel end of the drawer pulls I intend to make? Seems as if this slope is getting steeper. $350 midi lathe $ 69 StebCenter $200 chuck $200 +/- for some chisels and gouges and there's still a couple of tool rests to acquire and maybe a collets chuck. Then there's the Escoulen (sp?) eccentric chuck for around $275 . . . Ah, but the cost of wood should go way down relative to furniture making needs. And I'm sure I can get buy on just one meal a day. A wood burning stove - that's what I need! What I save in gas and electric costs will surely free up some funds for MORE TOOLS! BIGGER LATHE(S), MORE POWER!!!!! PENS! I can make a bunch of pens and sell them at craft fares. Yeah, that'll provide plenty of money for MORE STUFF! Raaapidly accelerating down the slippery slope charlie b |
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Can you see the top of your table saw? How thick is the layer of dust
on the jointer? Have you considered spending a $1000.00 to attend a turning conference? It may not be too late to save your self! Walt A On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 10:18:17 -0700, charlie b wrote: At this point of my slide down the slippery slope of turning, I've paid for but not yet picked up a SuperNova2 chuch and the 1" 8TPI insert for my JET midi. [Woodcraft marketing folks are clever. I could buy it by the Thursday before their Labor Day Weekend No Sales Tax (8.25% savings around here) Sale on sale - $159.99 for the chuck at the sales price, - $ 24.99 for the insert at normal price +8.25% sales tax or wait and get it during the No Sales Tax Sale and buy it for the normal price but pay no sales tax - $199.99 for the chuck at the normal price - $ 24.99 for the insert at normal price WHY DON'T THEY JUST SAY $160 INSTEAD OF $159.99? Calculator says skip the No Sales Tax Sale, buy the chuck on sale at $160 and save $24.255 So now I've got another $24.255 to spend! Figure another set of jaws would come in handy. Will the "spigot" jaws come in handy for holding the "tenon"/dowel end of the drawer pulls I intend to make? Seems as if this slope is getting steeper. $350 midi lathe $ 69 StebCenter $200 chuck $200 +/- for some chisels and gouges and there's still a couple of tool rests to acquire and maybe a collets chuck. Then there's the Escoulen (sp?) eccentric chuck for around $275 . . . Ah, but the cost of wood should go way down relative to furniture making needs. And I'm sure I can get buy on just one meal a day. A wood burning stove - that's what I need! What I save in gas and electric costs will surely free up some funds for MORE TOOLS! BIGGER LATHE(S), MORE POWER!!!!! PENS! I can make a bunch of pens and sell them at craft fares. Yeah, that'll provide plenty of money for MORE STUFF! Raaapidly accelerating down the slippery slope charlie b |
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charlie b wrote:
At this point of my slide down the slippery slope of turning, I've paid for but not yet picked up a SuperNova2 chuch and the 1" 8TPI insert for my JET midi. [Woodcraft marketing folks are clever. I could buy it by the Thursday before their Labor Day Weekend No Sales Tax (8.25% savings around here) Sale on sale - $159.99 for the chuck at the sales price, - $ 24.99 for the insert at normal price +8.25% sales tax or wait and get it during the No Sales Tax Sale and buy it for the normal price but pay no sales tax - $199.99 for the chuck at the normal price - $ 24.99 for the insert at normal price WHY DON'T THEY JUST SAY $160 INSTEAD OF $159.99? Calculator says skip the No Sales Tax Sale, buy the chuck on sale at $160 and save $24.255 So now I've got another $24.255 to spend! Figure another set of jaws would come in handy. Will the "spigot" jaws come in handy for holding the "tenon"/dowel end of the drawer pulls I intend to make? Seems as if this slope is getting steeper. $350 midi lathe $ 69 StebCenter $200 chuck $200 +/- for some chisels and gouges and there's still a couple of tool rests to acquire and maybe a collets chuck. Then there's the Escoulen (sp?) eccentric chuck for around $275 . . . Ah, but the cost of wood should go way down relative to furniture making needs. And I'm sure I can get buy on just one meal a day. A wood burning stove - that's what I need! What I save in gas and electric costs will surely free up some funds for MORE TOOLS! BIGGER LATHE(S), MORE POWER!!!!! PENS! I can make a bunch of pens and sell them at craft fares. Yeah, that'll provide plenty of money for MORE STUFF! Raaapidly accelerating down the slippery slope charlie b Next time check with KMS tools. They list the Supernova 2 including insert, 2" jaws and woodworm screw for $169.96 US. They are a super company to deal with. -- Gerald Ross Cochran, GA Common sense is what tells you the earth is flat. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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Walt & Jenne Ahlgrim wrote:
Can you see the top of your table saw? Yes - but that's because what was on it was moved to the miter saw infeed and outfeed tables, thence to the bench from which is was moved to the added on big drill press table, saving the workbench top behind the combination machine for the parts for some utility shelves which must be done BEFORE the first rain. Two shelf units, each shelf to hold two filing boxes, 6 shelves per unit - storage for 24 file boxes of "stuff", some of which MAY be wood that is saved for turning and miscellaneous small project. How thick is the layer of dust on the jointer? I've got an 1100 lb. 3 - 3 hp TEFC motored, sliding table, combination machine (Robland X31) so the saw/shaper table and the jointer table are side by side and coplana Because of the sliding table, a large cross cut auxilliary table is not necessary. When the 48" cross cut fence isn't being used it's taken of the machine and stored in a corner. Have you considered spending a $1000.00 to attend a turning conference? Let's see, that's about one quarter of a trip to the emergency room - sounds like a real deal. But I'd rather spend that sized chunk of change on some nice wood (I've already got just about every tailed tool they make and half the hand tools Roy Underhill has. It may not be too late to save your self! This is sort of like taking up morphine to get off of methamphetamines. CAUTION: A skill saw/circular saw is a gatewy tool to a woodworking addiction which can empty your bank account - but feeds your soul. charlie b Walt A |
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"charlie b" wrote in message ... At this point of my slide down the slippery slope of turning, I've paid for but not yet picked up a SuperNova2 chuch and the 1" 8TPI insert for my JET midi. So now I've got another $24.255 to spend! Figure another set of jaws would come in handy. Will the "spigot" jaws come in handy for holding the "tenon"/dowel end of the drawer pulls I intend to make? "Pin Jaws" is what you want. They're the most versatile set available. |
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On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 15:53:45 -0700, charlie b wrote:
I've got an 1100 lb. 3 - 3 hp TEFC motored, sliding table, combination machine (Robland X31) so the saw/shaper table and the jointer table are side by side and coplana Because of the sliding table, a large cross cut auxilliary table is not necessary. When the 48" cross cut fence isn't being used it's taken of the machine and stored in a corner. So this isn't your first excursion into the madness of wood? Have you considered spending a $1000.00 to attend a turning conference? Let's see, that's about one quarter of a trip to the emergency room - sounds like a real deal. But I'd rather spend that sized chunk of change on some nice wood (I've already got just about every tailed tool they make and half the hand tools Roy Underhill has. There ya go, Roy. There's the guy who got your tools! |
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In a begining turning class I took the question of how much does it cost to
get started? His answer was a $1000.00 when asked. On the second to last meeting he brought out a chuck and was explaining about how to use it and the advantages it has. Of course the question came up, how much does it cost? He turned to the class and said, did I tell you about the second thousand dollars?? Why do I think there is a third thousand dollars out there just around the corner. Bruce "charlie b" wrote in message ... At this point of my slide down the slippery slope of turning, I've paid for but not yet picked up a SuperNova2 chuch and the 1" 8TPI insert for my JET midi. [Woodcraft marketing folks are clever. I could buy it by the Thursday before their Labor Day Weekend No Sales Tax (8.25% savings around here) Sale on sale - $159.99 for the chuck at the sales price, - $ 24.99 for the insert at normal price +8.25% sales tax or wait and get it during the No Sales Tax Sale and buy it for the normal price but pay no sales tax - $199.99 for the chuck at the normal price - $ 24.99 for the insert at normal price WHY DON'T THEY JUST SAY $160 INSTEAD OF $159.99? Calculator says skip the No Sales Tax Sale, buy the chuck on sale at $160 and save $24.255 So now I've got another $24.255 to spend! Figure another set of jaws would come in handy. Will the "spigot" jaws come in handy for holding the "tenon"/dowel end of the drawer pulls I intend to make? Seems as if this slope is getting steeper. $350 midi lathe $ 69 StebCenter $200 chuck $200 +/- for some chisels and gouges and there's still a couple of tool rests to acquire and maybe a collets chuck. Then there's the Escoulen (sp?) eccentric chuck for around $275 . . . Ah, but the cost of wood should go way down relative to furniture making needs. And I'm sure I can get buy on just one meal a day. A wood burning stove - that's what I need! What I save in gas and electric costs will surely free up some funds for MORE TOOLS! BIGGER LATHE(S), MORE POWER!!!!! PENS! I can make a bunch of pens and sell them at craft fares. Yeah, that'll provide plenty of money for MORE STUFF! Raaapidly accelerating down the slippery slope charlie b |
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"Bruce Ferguson" wrote in message ... In a begining turning class I took the question of how much does it cost to get started? His answer was a $1000.00 when asked. On the second to last meeting he brought out a chuck and was explaining about how to use it and the advantages it has. Of course the question came up, how much does it cost? He turned to the class and said, did I tell you about the second thousand dollars?? Why do I think there is a third thousand dollars out there just around the corner. ===================== Bruce, There can be another thousand (or several) if you don't control yourself. There's always the temptation of that $3500 lathe, the $150 ea. turning tools, the latest and greatest whiz bang chuck that will hold any thing at any position, the new shop to put all this in, etc., etc.. The list is endless, but much of it is ego, and not necessity (another flame war ignited). I've been back at this for about 10 years, and I have less than $1000 total investment, if you don't count the time spent making tools, jigs, fixtures, etc.. If you take a look at what you want to do, then look for ways other than the "conventional wisdom" says to do it, you can find ways to do it without breaking the bank. YMMY Ken Moon Webberville, TX. |
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for what it's worth, I bought a nova chuck and a bunch of jaws - found I
rarely chnaged them - in fact I have the large jaws, think I used them once, the 50 mm ones are useful, and the small ones are good on rare occasion - I don't think I've used anything except the 50 mm jaws in years. bill www.wbnoble.com snip-------- So now I've got another $24.255 to spend! Figure another set of jaws would come in handy. Will the "spigot" jaws come in handy for holding the "tenon"/dowel end of the drawer pulls I intend to make? Seems as if this slope is getting steeper. $350 midi lathe $ 69 StebCenter $200 chuck $200 +/- for some chisels and gouges and there's still a couple of tool rests to acquire and maybe a collets chuck. Then there's the Escoulen (sp?) eccentric chuck for around $275 . . . |
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Can I see the top of my tablesaw? I can't FIND my tablesaw! Ask me where
my lathe is. Barry "Walt & Jenne Ahlgrim" wrote in message ... Can you see the top of your table saw? How thick is the layer of dust on the jointer? Have you considered spending a $1000.00 to attend a turning conference? It may not be too late to save your self! Walt A On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 10:18:17 -0700, charlie b wrote: At this point of my slide down the slippery slope of turning, I've paid for but not yet picked up a SuperNova2 chuch and the 1" 8TPI insert for my JET midi. [Woodcraft marketing folks are clever. I could buy it by the Thursday before their Labor Day Weekend No Sales Tax (8.25% savings around here) Sale on sale - $159.99 for the chuck at the sales price, - $ 24.99 for the insert at normal price +8.25% sales tax or wait and get it during the No Sales Tax Sale and buy it for the normal price but pay no sales tax - $199.99 for the chuck at the normal price - $ 24.99 for the insert at normal price WHY DON'T THEY JUST SAY $160 INSTEAD OF $159.99? Calculator says skip the No Sales Tax Sale, buy the chuck on sale at $160 and save $24.255 So now I've got another $24.255 to spend! Figure another set of jaws would come in handy. Will the "spigot" jaws come in handy for holding the "tenon"/dowel end of the drawer pulls I intend to make? Seems as if this slope is getting steeper. $350 midi lathe $ 69 StebCenter $200 chuck $200 +/- for some chisels and gouges and there's still a couple of tool rests to acquire and maybe a collets chuck. Then there's the Escoulen (sp?) eccentric chuck for around $275 . . . Ah, but the cost of wood should go way down relative to furniture making needs. And I'm sure I can get buy on just one meal a day. A wood burning stove - that's what I need! What I save in gas and electric costs will surely free up some funds for MORE TOOLS! BIGGER LATHE(S), MORE POWER!!!!! PENS! I can make a bunch of pens and sell them at craft fares. Yeah, that'll provide plenty of money for MORE STUFF! Raaapidly accelerating down the slippery slope charlie b |
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Far too often, we seek solutions in buying more
tools/chucks/jaws/gadgets/etc. instead of learning how to use what we already have. As a really "green" novice turner, I was having problems with hollowing boxes and was searching for that perfect tool. Clay Johnson of Choice Woods in Louisville, KY told me, "You don't need another tool. You need to learn to use the ones you already have." Good advice. Barry "william_b_noble" wrote in message news:1125899076.68b0ca9a59c2bd00e3cbb3006cf490ee@t eranews... for what it's worth, I bought a nova chuck and a bunch of jaws - found I rarely chnaged them - in fact I have the large jaws, think I used them once, the 50 mm ones are useful, and the small ones are good on rare occasion - I don't think I've used anything except the 50 mm jaws in years. bill www.wbnoble.com snip-------- So now I've got another $24.255 to spend! Figure another set of jaws would come in handy. Will the "spigot" jaws come in handy for holding the "tenon"/dowel end of the drawer pulls I intend to make? Seems as if this slope is getting steeper. $350 midi lathe $ 69 StebCenter $200 chuck $200 +/- for some chisels and gouges and there's still a couple of tool rests to acquire and maybe a collets chuck. Then there's the Escoulen (sp?) eccentric chuck for around $275 . . . |
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