Sorry for a seperate post - but I forgot to include this in the last one
about gloss paint!
The flat I am decorating used storage heaters. Is it OK to remove these in
order to paint behind them without danger of damaging anything inside ??

NC wrote:
Sorry for a seperate post - but I forgot to include this in the last
one about gloss paint!
The flat I am decorating used storage heaters. Is it OK to remove
these in order to paint behind them without danger of damaging
anything inside ??

They are usually extremely heavy due to storage bricks.
The bricks/elements can be fragile if old.

Thanks for the info. DO they generally just attach via the 'feet', or are
there often screws etc protruding from the back into the wall ?? ie, is it
likely that I may HAVE to dismantle them in order to get to all the points
where they are attached to the wall ??

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Sorry for a seperate post - but I forgot to include this in the last one
about gloss paint!
The flat I am decorating used storage heaters. Is it OK to remove these
in
order to paint behind them without danger of damaging anything inside ??


I guess it depends on the storage heaters. Some of the early ones were
extremely heavy - being full of brick-like things to store the heat. They
were usually assembled on site, and need to be dis-assembled to move them.

Not sure about more modern ones - they don't seem to be so heavy - maybe
they use more exotic heat storage material. If you can lift them off their
brackets, and gently move them aside without shaking them about too much,
you should be ok.

Roger

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The flat I am decorating used storage heaters. Is it OK to remove these
in
order to paint behind them without danger of damaging anything inside ??

I guess it depends on the storage heaters. Some of the early ones were
extremely heavy - being full of brick-like things to store the heat. They
were usually assembled on site, and need to be dis-assembled to move them.

Not sure about more modern ones - they don't seem to be so heavy - maybe
they use more exotic heat storage material. If you can lift them off their
brackets, and gently move them aside without shaking them about too much,
you should be ok.

Thanks for the info. DO they generally just attach via the 'feet', or are
there often screws etc protruding from the back into the wall ?? ie, is it
likely that I may HAVE to dismantle them in order to get to all the points
where they are attached to the wall ??


(I never thought I'd join in the top-posting wars, but I've never
replied to such a thread - it sure does complicate quoting! Please don't
do it again.)

Ours (which are generally old) are clipped to the wall via hooks, with
the weight taken by feet on the floor. So the damn things *could* be
lifted up and moved - if you could lift them. I'd I thought this would
be nigh on impossible without removing the contents first.

I'd recommend taking them apart. This normally isn't a problem, but take
care unscrewing the elements. The front covers normally have some
insulation stuck to the inside, which often attempts to fall off on
removal.

HTH
Mike.

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Contact me at
(firstly removing the CAPS LOCK).

"NC" wrote:

Hello NC

N| Sorry for a seperate post - but I forgot to include this in
N| the last one about gloss paint! The flat I am decorating
N| used storage heaters. Is it OK to remove these in order to
N| paint behind them without danger of damaging anything inside

You can generally unfix (top panel often hides screws) and walk them
out far enough to paint/paper, without removing the lead.

But beware, keep them upright! They are absurdly heavy and once they
start tipping you won't stop 'em.

--
Simon Avery, Dartmoor, UK
uk.d-i-y FAQ: http://www.diyfaq.org.uk/

also make sure you resecure them to the wall with good fixings,these things
are bloody heavy and could seriously injur a child if they come adrift
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"NC" wrote in message
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Sorry for a seperate post - but I forgot to include this in the last one
about gloss paint!
The flat I am decorating used storage heaters. Is it OK to remove these
in
order to paint behind them without danger of damaging anything inside ??


I have successfully moved storage heaters without damage to myself or the
heater using the following method. Take a piece of hardboard,smooth side
down and with the help of another person ease the heater onto its back
legs
and push the hardboard under as far as it will go. then carefully walk the
heater forward till it is fully on the hardboard. Your will find that the
heater can be slid complete with it's hardboard skid with relative ease.

This method of moving heavy objects in the home can be adapted to suit all
sorts of equipment. I have even used it with an assembled Aga to
reposition
it 18" to the left!! I did cheat a bit as I had the help of a couple of
Acroprops to supply the necessary force.

I had a play with one of these last night, undid the mounting screws and
found itcame away from the wall OK. However, the feet are tucked under the
carpet at the moment so I couldn't try 'walking' it out. Assuming I can do
this OK, to a safe distance from the wal to allow painting, will I be OK
leaving them to stand by themselves, or will I need to prop them up against
something ?? Bear in mind that I will have to have them out of the room as I
will be laying laminate and putting them back on top. Now, from this comes
another question - will I be able to put these ontop of laminate, or am I
better cutting grooves for the feet and resting them on the floor beneath ??


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"NC" wrote:

Hello NC

N| Sorry for a seperate post - but I forgot to include this in
N| the last one about gloss paint! The flat I am decorating
N| used storage heaters. Is it OK to remove these in order to
N| paint behind them without danger of damaging anything inside

You can generally unfix (top panel often hides screws) and walk them
out far enough to paint/paper, without removing the lead.

But beware, keep them upright! They are absurdly heavy and once they
start tipping you won't stop 'em.

--
Simon Avery, Dartmoor, UK
uk.d-i-y FAQ: http://www.diyfaq.org.uk/

They stand pretty well by themselves, the only reason they're supposed
to be fixed to the wall is so that little kids don't swing off them
and get flat - so ensure you don't let children/pets in the room while
it's loose.

I have one small one in the hallway, and 2 large ones in the lounge and
bedroom - I think I will just move the small one, and dismantle the large
ones.

Can you not peel back the carpet enough to get a sheet of
hardboard/lino or whatever under the feet, then walk the thing away?

I'll be taking the carpet up before I start moving the heaters - replacing
it with laminate. My question was if I could stand them on laminate once
they are ready to be refitted, or will I have to cut holes in it and stand
them on the floor ??

"NC" wrote:

Hello NC

N| I had a play with one of these last night, undid the
N| mounting screws and found itcame away from the wall OK.
N| However, the feet are tucked under the carpet at the moment
N| so I couldn't try 'walking' it out. Assuming I can do this
N| OK, to a safe distance from the wal to allow painting, will
N| I be OK leaving them to stand by themselves, or will I need
N| to prop them up against something ??

They stand pretty well by themselves, the only reason they're supposed
to be fixed to the wall is so that little kids don't swing off them
and get flat - so ensure you don't let children/pets in the room while
it's loose.

N| will have to have them out of the room as I will be laying
N| laminate and putting them back on top. Now, from this comes
N| another question - will I be able to put these ontop of
N| laminate, or am I better cutting grooves for the feet and
N| resting them on the floor beneath ??

Can you not peel back the carpet enough to get a sheet of
hardboard/lino or whatever under the feet, then walk the thing away?

--
Simon Avery, Dartmoor, UK
uk.d-i-y FAQ: http://www.diyfaq.org.uk/

NC wrote:
They stand pretty well by themselves, the only reason they're
supposed to be fixed to the wall is so that little kids don't swing
off them
and get flat - so ensure you don't let children/pets in the room
while it's loose.

I have one small one in the hallway, and 2 large ones in the lounge
and bedroom - I think I will just move the small one, and dismantle
the large ones.

Can you not peel back the carpet enough to get a sheet of
hardboard/lino or whatever under the feet, then walk the thing away?

I'll be taking the carpet up before I start moving the heaters -
replacing it with laminate. My question was if I could stand them on
laminate once they are ready to be refitted, or will I have to cut
holes in it and stand them on the floor ??
Stand them on top of the laminate. I know laminate is supposed to float due
to expansion but you can't have expansion gaps round every heavy item. The
heaters will tend to scratch the laminate uless you take precautions.

"Simon Avery" wrote in message ...
"NC" wrote:

Hello NC

N| Sorry for a seperate post - but I forgot to include this in
N| the last one about gloss paint! The flat I am decorating
N| used storage heaters. Is it OK to remove these in order to
N| paint behind them without danger of damaging anything inside

You can generally unfix (top panel often hides screws) and walk them
out far enough to paint/paper, without removing the lead.

But beware, keep them upright! They are absurdly heavy and once they
start tipping you won't stop 'em.

As my dad discovered, when I wasn't there (stupid bugger)

Tim


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Simon Avery, Dartmoor, UK
uk.d-i-y FAQ: http://www.diyfaq.org.uk/