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On holiday in France the farmhose we stayed in had a giant (2m high)
electric water heater in the cellar. It fed mains pressure hot water to the house above. The owner said it was great and the bills weren't high. My old gravity fed indirect effort which heats off a gas boiler could do with replacing. I'm fortunate to have a cellar, one of these giant things would be perfect. The only references I can find to electric water heating are the good (ie bad) old immersion heater. Can anybody point me to websites for something better? Neal |
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On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 22:48:09 +0100, "Neal Unitt-Jones"
wrote: The owner said it was great and the bills weren't high. If you believe a Frenchman on matter plumbing you are stark raving bonkers - they invented the Saniflo. The only references I can find to electric water heating are the good (ie bad) old immersion heater. All electric water heaters are (at the point of delivery) 100% efficient. All you can do after that is improve insulation etc to hold that heat in but there is nothing more efficient than the bog standard immersion heater. As with all forms of peak rate electric heating it is still very expensive - because electricity is expensive compared with other fuels - but it is perfectly efficient. -- Peter Parry. http://www.wpp.ltd.uk/ |
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![]() "Neal Unitt-Jones" wrote in message ... On holiday in France the farmhose we stayed in had a giant (2m high) electric water heater in the cellar. It fed mains pressure hot water to the house above. The owner said it was great and the bills weren't high. My old gravity fed indirect effort which heats off a gas boiler could do with replacing. I'm fortunate to have a cellar, one of these giant things would be perfect. The only references I can find to electric water heating are the good (ie bad) old immersion heater. Can anybody point me to websites for something better? Stick to gas as electricity is 3 to 3 times more expensive to run. Unvented indirect cylinders heat by gas boilers are available here. better still fit a heat bank. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.488 / Virus Database: 287 - Release Date: 05/06/2003 |
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![]() "Peter Parry" wrote in message news ![]() On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 22:48:09 +0100, "Neal Unitt-Jones" wrote: The owner said it was great and the bills weren't high. If you believe a Frenchman on matter plumbing you are stark raving bonkers - they invented the Saniflo. The only references I can find to electric water heating are the good (ie bad) old immersion heater. All electric water heaters are (at the point of delivery) 100% efficient. Cable loss can make that 97%. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.488 / Virus Database: 287 - Release Date: 05/06/2003 |
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![]() "Neal Unitt-Jones" wrote in message ... On holiday in France the farmhose we stayed in had a giant (2m high) electric water heater in the cellar. It fed mains pressure hot water to the house above. The owner said it was great and the bills weren't high. My old gravity fed indirect effort which heats off a gas boiler could do with replacing. I'm fortunate to have a cellar, one of these giant things would be perfect. The only references I can find to electric water heating are the good (ie bad) old immersion heater. Can anybody point me to websites for something better? Neal Hi Neal, If you already have the heating system installed, then why not extend the pipework and fit one of these in the cellar: http://www.cda.org.uk/megab2/build/heatdocs/cda51.htm |
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"IMM" writes: "Peter Parry" wrote in message news ![]() On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 22:48:09 +0100, "Neal Unitt-Jones" wrote: All electric water heaters are (at the point of delivery) 100% efficient. Cable loss can make that 97%. Power station loss can make that less than 40% -- Andrew Gabriel |
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![]() "Andrew Gabriel" wrote in message ... In article , "IMM" writes: "Peter Parry" wrote in message news ![]() On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 22:48:09 +0100, "Neal Unitt-Jones" wrote: All electric water heaters are (at the point of delivery) 100% efficient. Cable loss can make that 97%. From meter to element. Power station loss can make that less than 40% From generator to element. And if a coal burning station the most polluting. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.488 / Virus Database: 287 - Release Date: 05/06/2003 |
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![]() "BigWallop" wrote in message news ![]() "Neal Unitt-Jones" wrote in message ... On holiday in France the farmhose we stayed in had a giant (2m high) electric water heater in the cellar. It fed mains pressure hot water to the house above. The owner said it was great and the bills weren't high. My old gravity fed indirect effort which heats off a gas boiler could do with replacing. I'm fortunate to have a cellar, one of these giant things would be perfect. The only references I can find to electric water heating are the good (ie bad) old immersion heater. Can anybody point me to websites for something better? Neal Hi Neal, If you already have the heating system installed, then why not extend the pipework and fit one of these in the cellar: http://www.cda.org.uk/megab2/build/heatdocs/cda51.htm A heat bank is safer and can be DIYed, heated by gas or electricity or both. http://www.heatweb.com http://www.range-cylinders.co.uk (go to thermal storage). --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.488 / Virus Database: 287 - Release Date: 05/06/2003 |
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On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 23:30:08 +0100, "IMM" wrote:
"Peter Parry" wrote in message news ![]() All electric water heaters are (at the point of delivery) 100% efficient. Cable loss can make that 97%. Please read before drivel. -- Peter Parry. http://www.wpp.ltd.uk/ |
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![]() Hi Neal, If you already have the heating system installed, then why not extend the pipework and fit one of these in the cellar: http://www.cda.org.uk/megab2/build/heatdocs/cda51.htm A heat bank is safer and can be DIYed, heated by gas or electricity or both. http://www.heatweb.com http://www.range-cylinders.co.uk (go to thermal storage). Yup, that looks like the puppy, thanks. NUJ |
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