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13A Plug or 13A FCU for Oven?
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My new Single Electric Oven (2.35Kw) states it should be connected to a 13A FCU spur. If it can be connected to a 13A FCU could you just add a 13A plug to it and plug it into a socket? Why does the FCU need to be a spurred FCU? Finally, if I have a single 13A plug socket, could I just run a short spur from that and place my 13A FCU spur next to that socket? cheers |
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"inNeedofHelp" wrote in message om... Hi, My new Single Electric Oven (2.35Kw) states it should be connected to a 13A FCU spur. If it can be connected to a 13A FCU could you just add a 13A plug to it and plug it into a socket? Why does the FCU need to be a spurred FCU? Finally, if I have a single 13A plug socket, could I just run a short spur from that and place my 13A FCU spur next to that socket? cheers Possibly they don't want you to take the power for the oven off the main ring circuit. Usually ovens are so power hugry they get their own spur ( direct from the consuer unit ). Yours doesn't sound as though it takes much power, about 10A of current. In theory that kind of load is easily fed from the ring circuit, but it sounds like they are quoting regulations designed to cover more powerful oven/hob combinations. My info is that below 3kW your oven can be supplied from a ring circuit by an FCU spur, or by means of a 13A plug and socket as you suggest. Andy. |
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inNeedofHelp wrote:
My new Single Electric Oven (2.35Kw) states it should be connected to a 13A FCU spur. If it can be connected to a 13A FCU could you just add a 13A plug to it and plug it into a socket? Yes you could, but watch the total loading on the ring, or whatever other circuit is feeding your kitchen. Also bear in mind that the max. ambient temperature for 13 A plugs & sockets is supposed to be 30 deg. C so avoid using plugs in in hot spots such as behind a built-in appliance. Why does the FCU need to be a spurred FCU? 'Spur' 'spur unit' or 'spur box' are alternative names for an FCU. It doesn't mean that the FCU can't be connected directly into a ring circuit - clearly it can be. Finally, if I have a single 13A plug socket, could I just run a short spur from that and place my 13A FCU spur next to that socket? Yes. -- Andy |
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Andy Wade writes: inNeedofHelp wrote: My new Single Electric Oven (2.35Kw) states it should be connected to a 13A FCU spur. If it can be connected to a 13A FCU could you just add a 13A plug to it and plug it into a socket? Yes you could, but watch the total loading on the ring, or whatever other circuit is feeding your kitchen. Also bear in mind that the max. ambient temperature for 13 A plugs & sockets is supposed to be 30 deg. C so avoid using plugs in in hot spots such as behind a built-in appliance. Also, for such use, go for really good quality plug and socket, not the cheapest bargin in the shed. You can avoid one slight possibility for bad contact by choosing an unswitched socket too for this application. -- Andrew Gabriel |
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Andy Wade wrote in message ...
inNeedofHelp wrote: My new Single Electric Oven (2.35Kw) states it should be connected to a 13A FCU spur. If it can be connected to a 13A FCU could you just add a 13A plug to it and plug it into a socket? Yes you could, but watch the total loading on the ring, or whatever other circuit is feeding your kitchen. Also bear in mind that the max. ambient temperature for 13 A plugs & sockets is supposed to be 30 deg. C so avoid using plugs in in hot spots such as behind a built-in appliance. Sure, we will have 2 rings supply to supply the kitchen, so loading on ring is OK. Socket will go in cabinet next to oven as current one is. Does not get overly hot in there, so again, that will be ok. Cool, think I will go with plug route, be neater, and easier Why does the FCU need to be a spurred FCU? 'Spur' 'spur unit' or 'spur box' are alternative names for an FCU. It doesn't mean that the FCU can't be connected directly into a ring circuit - clearly it can be. Finally, if I have a single 13A plug socket, could I just run a short spur from that and place my 13A FCU spur next to that socket? Yes. |
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"inNeedofHelp" wrote in message m... Andy Wade wrote in message ... inNeedofHelp wrote: My new Single Electric Oven (2.35Kw) states it should be connected to a 13A FCU spur. If it can be connected to a 13A FCU could you just add a 13A plug to it and plug it into a socket? Yes you could, but watch the total loading on the ring, or whatever other circuit is feeding your kitchen. Also bear in mind that the max. ambient temperature for 13 A plugs & sockets is supposed to be 30 deg. C so avoid using plugs in in hot spots such as behind a built-in appliance. Sure, we will have 2 rings supply to supply the kitchen, so loading on ring is OK. Socket will go in cabinet next to oven as current one is. Does not get overly hot in there, so again, that will be ok. Cool, think I will go with plug route, be neater, and easier Why does the FCU need to be a spurred FCU? 'Spur' 'spur unit' or 'spur box' are alternative names for an FCU. It doesn't mean that the FCU can't be connected directly into a ring circuit - clearly it can be. Finally, if I have a single 13A plug socket, could I just run a short spur from that and place my 13A FCU spur next to that socket? Yes. An oven is a fixed appliance and as such should be connected via a switched fused spur, socket outlets are for portable appliances if it was designed to be on a 13a plugtop it would have to be supplied with one fitted. Peter |
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On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 20:50:24 +0000 (UTC), "Peter"
strung together this: An oven is a fixed appliance and as such should be connected via a switched fused spur, No, it can be fitted with a plugtop or wired in via a switched fused spur. socket outlets are for portable appliances if it was designed to be on a 13a plugtop it would have to be supplied with one fitted. Just because it doesn't come with one doesn't mean there is a problem with using a plugtop. A gas hob doesn't come with a fitted plug, and neither does a cooker hood and these draw a few watts each. -- SJW Please reply to group or use 'usenet' in email subject |
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Just because it doesn't come with one doesn't mean there is a problem with using a plugtop. A gas hob doesn't come with a fitted plug, and neither does a cooker hood and these draw a few watts each. -- Thats because they are fixed appliance's and needs to be wired via a FCU the only exception that comes to mind is a electric clock thats permitted on a designed for purpose plug connector. Peter |
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On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 17:42:18 +0000 (UTC), "Peter"
strung together this: Thats because they are fixed appliance's and needs to be wired via a FCU They don't. -- SJW Please reply to group or use 'usenet' in email subject |
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