"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Andy Hall wrote:
No, which is why I follow the instructions, use the proper tools and
get a good result.

You, on the other hand, who thought he knew better than the
instructions, bodged a job by using a hack saw and then wondered why
he didn't get satisfactory results are advocating that others do the
same.

Now you're suggesting that I'm dumb?

The laugh is that probably anyone with a modicum of skill and sense could
make a satisfactory cut without the special tool in an emergency.

IMM failed.

You couldn't make a joint with any tool.

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ,
IMM wrote:
Here is what Hepworth tech dept said on this very ng, that is uk.d-i-y.

"The inventive can find many ways of achieving a perfectly acceptable
clean, square cut using a variety of tools. The Hepworth Plumbing
Products Team"

Strange, given just how much you invent, that you failed.

What is this inventing you are on about.

"Steve Firth" wrote in message
.. .
IMM wrote:

Well nothing sunk in then did it.

Absolutely true, you were either too stupid to read instructions or too
thick to understand them. Which was it?

What Emglish county full of retards are you from?

"Steve Firth" wrote in message
...
IMM wrote:

"Christian McArdle" wrote in message
. net...

however the requirements for the cutter are that it should cut the
tube
square without scoring or scratching the pipe or leaving burrs or
swarf
which could get under the 'O' ring.

Exactly. An pro can do that with a number of tools.

So by definition, you're an amateur, because you ballsed it up.

What was ballsed up?

"Phil Addison" wrote in message
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On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 15:07:50 -0000, "IMM" wrote:

"Andy Hall" wrote in message
...

The manufacturers (all of them) recommend
using a pipe cutter.

They "recommend", not say it is mandatory.
Even Hepworth on this ng stated
a specialist cutter is not necessary.

In manufacturer's published installation directions there is

snip drivel

I said..."They "recommend", not say it is mandatory. Even Hepworth on
this
ng stated a specialist cutter is not necessary." Now read that out loud
for
a few hours.

You have stated that several times now. I checked with google and I
can't find them saying that. What I have found is...

yep....and here it is....found by you too...

The inventive can find many ways of achieving a perfectly acceptable
clean, square cut using a variety of tools."

Which says you don't need a specialist plastic pipe cutter. Did you
understand that?

As to not using a hacksaw then how do they expect you to cut the pipe? With
a lazer torch? The only implement is a ...wait for it...hacksaw...and
then, as they say..."The inventive can find many ways of achieving a
perfectly acceptable clean, square cut using a variety of tools."...to clean
it up.

"Owain" wrote in message
...
"Andy Hall" wrote
| Just wait. He'll be telling us that people in the north east
| want a regional assembly. Nanny knows best.

£100 tax to Westminster. £100 total tax take.
£55 to Westminster and £55 to Local Gov. £110 total tax take.
£45 to Westminster, £45 to Region, £45 to Local Gov. £135 total tax take.

Besides, the chancellor wants to lose x thousand civil servants. Some more
regional assemblies would be an excellent place to lose them in without
having to pay out redundancy and up the unemployment figures.

The idea is to give the regions control over their affairs, instead of a
bunch of public school, predominantly southern, mandarin snots in Whitehall
telling them what to do.

Sounds good to me. Put the civil servants where do most good, which is not
in London.

In article ,
IMM wrote:
The laugh is that probably anyone with a modicum of skill and sense
could make a satisfactory cut without the special tool in an emergency.

IMM failed.

You couldn't make a joint with any tool.

Mine never leak. Makes them easier to draw.

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In article ,
IMM wrote:
You have stated that several times now. I checked with google and I
can't find them saying that. What I have found is...

yep....and here it is....found by you too...

The inventive can find many ways of achieving a perfectly acceptable
clean, square cut using a variety of tools."

Which says you don't need a specialist plastic pipe cutter. Did you
understand that?

And no matter how you snip it says you mustn't use a hacksaw...

As to not using a hacksaw then how do they expect you to cut the pipe?

From the one who claims to know everything about everything.

With a lazer torch?

Was that your first choice? You've been believing everything you read on
the web again...

The only implement is a ...wait for
it...hacksaw..

err, *not* a hacksaw.

.and then, as they say..."The inventive can find many ways
of achieving a perfectly acceptable clean, square cut using a variety of
tools."...to clean it up.

Yup. Dead easy to anyone with a bit of sense - in an emergency.

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On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 23:11:41 -0000, "IMM" wrote:


"Owain" wrote in message
...
"Andy Hall" wrote
| Just wait. He'll be telling us that people in the north east
| want a regional assembly. Nanny knows best.

£100 tax to Westminster. £100 total tax take.
£55 to Westminster and £55 to Local Gov. £110 total tax take.
£45 to Westminster, £45 to Region, £45 to Local Gov. £135 total tax take.

Besides, the chancellor wants to lose x thousand civil servants. Some more
regional assemblies would be an excellent place to lose them in without
having to pay out redundancy and up the unemployment figures.

The idea is to give the regions control over their affairs, instead of a
bunch of public school, predominantly southern, mandarin snots in Whitehall
telling them what to do.

Sounds good to me. Put the civil servants where do most good, which is not
in London.



Mmmm. Clearly it did to J+=2 and his sidekick. Unfortunately for
them, the electorate doesn't agree.

I suppose that they will now spin the idea and present it differently
until they do get a mandate, or more likely just go ahead and do it
anyway.



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On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 23:00:43 -0000, "IMM" wrote:


"Andy Hall" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 18:01:37 -0000, "IMM" wrote:


"Bob Mannix" wrote in message
...

"...It is for this reason a hacksaw should not be used.

The inventive can find many ways of achieving a perfectly acceptable
clean,
square cut using a variety of tools. The Hepworth Plumbing Products
Team"

A hacksaw can score the external surface of a pipe? How? A good one
make a
nice straight clean cut, and then finish off with fine files knives etc.



ROTFL.

You did! I bet you laugh at the Vicar of Dibley too.

I have no idea who he is.


So I need to buy a hacksaw and set of files and a knife at
considerably more than £5 for the proper tool and take about five
times longer to do the job?

Brilliant idea. Do you have any others?

You are very silly. If you have a few of these plastic joints to do, you
can do it with available tools. Hepworth said so.


Some men are discovered, others are found out. On that particular
statement I don't think you were discovered.





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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
IMM wrote:
The laugh is that probably anyone with a modicum of skill and sense
could make a satisfactory cut without the special tool in an
emergency.

IMM failed.

You couldn't make a joint with any tool.

Mine never leak. Makes them easier to draw.

Of course they don't leak, you don't make them.

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
IMM wrote:
You have stated that several times now. I checked with google and I
can't find them saying that. What I have found is...

yep....and here it is....found by you too...

The inventive can find many ways of achieving a perfectly acceptable
clean, square cut using a variety of tools."

Which says you don't need a specialist plastic pipe cutter. Did you
understand that?

And no matter how you snip it
says you mustn't use a hacksaw...

The point is that retards are saying only a specialist tools can be used.

"Andy Hall" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 23:11:41 -0000, "IMM" wrote:


"Owain" wrote in message
...
"Andy Hall" wrote
| Just wait. He'll be telling us that people in the north east
| want a regional assembly. Nanny knows best.

£100 tax to Westminster. £100 total tax take.
£55 to Westminster and £55 to Local Gov. £110 total tax take.
£45 to Westminster, £45 to Region, £45 to Local Gov. £135 total tax
take.

Besides, the chancellor wants to lose x thousand civil servants. Some
more
regional assemblies would be an excellent place to lose them in without
having to pay out redundancy and up the unemployment figures.

The idea is to give the regions control over their affairs, instead of a
bunch of public school, predominantly southern, mandarin snots in
Whitehall
telling them what to do.

Sounds good to me. Put the civil servants where do most good, which is
not
in London.

Mmmm. Clearly it did to J+=2 and his sidekick. Unfortunately for
them, the electorate doesn't agree.

I suppose that they will now spin the idea and present it differently
until they do get a mandate, or more likely just go ahead and do it
anyway.

They shouldn't have put it to the vote. Only 48% turned out and few
actually know the issues and what gains they get.

On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 23:09:06 -0000, "IMM" wrote:


"Phil Addison" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 15:07:50 -0000, "IMM" wrote:


I said..."They "recommend", not say it is mandatory. Even Hepworth on
this
ng stated a specialist cutter is not necessary." Now read that out loud
for
a few hours.

You have stated that several times now. I checked with google and I
can't find them saying that. What I have found is...

yep....and here it is....found by you too...

The inventive can find many ways of achieving a perfectly acceptable
clean, square cut using a variety of tools."

Which says you don't need a specialist plastic pipe cutter. Did you
understand that?

You have already been told that snipping does not actually erase the
original statement, so I'll put it back as you are obviously as thick as
two short planks and can't read what is in front of your eyes. Everyone
else here can see crystal clear what Hepworth actually said, not the
mis-quote you give. Hepworth must be laughing their socks off at your
drivel on here, watching you get deeper and deeper in the ****.

/ACTUAL COPY OF TEXT FROM GOOGLE/
From: (Hepworth Plumbing)
Date: 1998/02/24
Message-ID:
Organization: Hepworth Plumbing

"It is recommended that a purpose designed pipe cutter is used for
cutting Hep2O (and indeed all plastics pressure pipes) to ensure that
the pipe end is clean cut and free of burrs. A hacksaw should definitely
NOT be used."

DO YOU SEE IT NOW???

"A hacksaw should definitely NOT be used."

THIS IS WHAT HEPWORTH ACTUALLY POSTED. LOOK, IT'S JUST 3 LINES UP.
YES, REALLY. DO TRY TO READ IT, IT WON'T HURT.
Err.. yes it will.

/ANOTHER COPY STRAIGHT OUT OF GOOGLE/
From: "Hepworth Plumbing Products"
References:
Organization: Hepworth Plumbing Products

"We do recommend the use of a Hep2O pipe cutter, however any pipe cutter
designed to cut plastics pipes should be suitable. One of the major
advantages of a purpose designed cutter is speed, however the
requirements for the cutter are that it should cut the tube square
without scoring or scratching the pipe or leaving burrs or swarf which
could get under the 'O' ring. It is for this reason that hacksaws should
not be used.

LOOK, LOOK. DO YOU SEE IT IN THIS POST TOO???

"It is for this reason that hacksaws should not be used."

THIS IS WHAT HEPWORTH ACTUALLY POSTED. LOOK, IT'S JUST 3 LINES UP.

The inventive can find many ways of achieving a perfectly acceptable
clean, square cut using a variety of tools."

AFTER GIVING IT GREAT THOUGHT, I'M FAIRLY CERTAIN THEY MEAN YOU SHOULD
NOT USE A WHATSITSNAME, YOU KNOW, METAL FRAME-THING WITH A TOOTHY
BLADE,... UM... GOTTIT,... HACKSAW. YES THAT'S WHAT THEY SAID.

To readers with normal hearing, apologies for shouting, but IMM seems to
be hard of thinking.

As to not using a hacksaw then how do they expect you to cut the pipe?

Dunno, I give up.... No wait a minute, let me think. Don't suppose it
could be a - what was they said... hang on let me just look up a few
paragraphs. Oh, yes, a pipe-cutter.

With a lazer torch?

You have been watching too much sci-fi.

The only implement is a ...wait for it...hacksaw...and

Almost right. You just left out two words - *except a* - hacksaw.


then, as they say..."The inventive can find many ways of achieving a
perfectly acceptable clean, square cut using a variety of tools."...to clean
it up.

You also misunderstood what they intended the "variety of tools" to be
used for. Its clear they mean they are for cleanly cutting the pipe, NOT
for cleaning it up.

Phil
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On Sat, 6 Nov 2004 00:46:18 -0000, "IMM" wrote:




They shouldn't have put it to the vote. Only 48% turned out and few
actually know the issues and what gains they get.


Heaven forbid that democracy should interrupt government policy.



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In message , IMM writes

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
IMM wrote:
You have stated that several times now. I checked with google and I
can't find them saying that. What I have found is...

yep....and here it is....found by you too...

The inventive can find many ways of achieving a perfectly acceptable
clean, square cut using a variety of tools."

Which says you don't need a specialist plastic pipe cutter. Did you
understand that?

And no matter how you snip it
says you mustn't use a hacksaw...

The point is that retards are saying only a specialist tools can be used.

The other point is that retards who don't use the correct tool are
capable of making a complete pigs ear of it

now who do we know who fits that definition ?

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"raden" wrote in message
...
In message , IMM writes

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
IMM wrote:
You have stated that several times now. I checked with google and I
can't find them saying that. What I have found is...

yep....and here it is....found by you too...

The inventive can find many ways of achieving a perfectly
acceptable
clean, square cut using a variety of tools."

Which says you don't need a specialist plastic pipe cutter. Did you
understand that?

And no matter how you snip it
says you mustn't use a hacksaw...

The point is that retards are saying only a specialist tools can be used.

The other point is that retards who don't use the correct tool are
capable of making a complete pigs ear of it

That is true in the hands of retards.

now who do we know who fits that definition ?

And don't we know.

"Andy Hall" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 6 Nov 2004 00:46:18 -0000, "IMM" wrote:




They shouldn't have put it to the vote. Only 48% turned out and few
actually know the issues and what gains they get.


Heaven forbid that democracy should interrupt government policy.

Democracy only works when the electors know the issues, otherwise it is
farce.

"Phil Addison" wrote in message
...

I said..."They "recommend", not say it is
mandatory. Even Hepworth on
this ng stated a specialist cutter is not necessary."
Now read that out loud for a few hours.

You have stated that several times now.
I checked with google and I
can't find them saying that. What I have found is...

yep....and here it is....found by you too...

The inventive can find many ways of achieving a perfectly acceptable
clean, square cut using a variety of tools."

Which says you don't need a specialist plastic pipe cutter. Did you
understand that?

You have already been told that snipping does not actually erase the
original statement,

snip drivel

Helpworth said on this ng..

"The inventive can find many ways of achieving a perfectly acceptable clean,
square cut using a variety of tools."

Which clearly says you don't need a specialist plastic pipe cutter. Did
you understand that? Are you that retarded?

On Sat, 6 Nov 2004 02:13:52 -0000, "IMM" wrote:


"Andy Hall" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 6 Nov 2004 00:46:18 -0000, "IMM" wrote:




They shouldn't have put it to the vote. Only 48% turned out and few
actually know the issues and what gains they get.


Heaven forbid that democracy should interrupt government policy.

Democracy only works when the electors know the issues, otherwise it is
farce.


.... and some animals are more equal than others......





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"Andy Hall" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 23:11:41 -0000, "IMM" wrote:


"Owain" wrote in message
...
"Andy Hall" wrote
| Just wait. He'll be telling us that people in the north east
| want a regional assembly. Nanny knows best.

£100 tax to Westminster. £100 total tax take.
£55 to Westminster and £55 to Local Gov. £110 total tax take.
£45 to Westminster, £45 to Region, £45 to Local Gov. £135 total tax
take.

Besides, the chancellor wants to lose x thousand civil servants. Some
more
regional assemblies would be an excellent place to lose them in without
having to pay out redundancy and up the unemployment figures.

The idea is to give the regions control over their affairs, instead of a
bunch of public school, predominantly southern, mandarin snots in
Whitehall
telling them what to do.

Sounds good to me. Put the civil servants where do most good, which is
not
in London.



Mmmm. Clearly it did to J+=2 and his sidekick. Unfortunately for
them, the electorate doesn't agree.

I suppose that they will now spin the idea and present it differently
until they do get a mandate, or more likely just go ahead and do it
anyway.


_They_ (UKGovernment) have to do it anyway ...!
It is a _requirement_ of the European Commissioners as
agreed by the Council of Ministers that Europe is to
be composed of Regions and not Countries. We are in
an interim arrangement when the transition is to take
place. Two-Jags is the guy (either a zealot or a mug) that's
tasked with implementing the European decision.
[In 1997 he had the title SoS Department of Transport,
Environment and the Regions -DTER- that's been chipped
away to 'the Regions'] He's already achieved 'success in
Scotland and Wales -which map onto EU Regions- now
he's attempting to implement the requirement in England-
which Brussels stipulate must be several units.
To get it back on track to D-I-Y; all Eight-by-Fours must be
sold as 2240x1220; red/black becomes brown/blue
and you will only be able to purchase it using Euro-money.

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On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 17:44:48 +0000, Andy Hall
wrote:

Just wait. He'll be telling us that people in the north east want a
regional assembly. Nanny knows best.

And what's the betting that the NE will gets its regional assembly?
The one thing you can rely upon with the Labour government is that
they will adopt whatever legislation they want, disregarding what the
people say.

Andrew

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On Sat, 6 Nov 2004 02:13:52 -0000, "IMM" wrote:

Democracy only works when the electors know the issues, otherwise it is
farce.

It's a two way street. Democracy only works if the politicians know
and understand the issues. And that's rarely the case in my view.

Andrew

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"Andy Hall" wrote in message
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On Sat, 6 Nov 2004 02:13:52 -0000, "IMM" wrote:


"Andy Hall" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 6 Nov 2004 00:46:18 -0000, "IMM" wrote:




They shouldn't have put it to the vote. Only 48% turned out and few
actually know the issues and what gains they get.


Heaven forbid that democracy should interrupt government policy.

Democracy only works when the electors know the issues, otherwise it is
farce.


... and some animals are more equal than others......

and two many cooks make light work ...or whatever.

"Brian Sharrock" wrote in message
...

_They_ (UKGovernment) have to do it anyway ...!
It is a _requirement_ of the European Commissioners as
agreed by the Council of Ministers that Europe is to
be composed of Regions and not Countries.

Spot on. Tne opposition are nopw spending alot of time oppsoing these
regions as they see it of denting the government in rather foolish way. It
has to happen.

To get it back on track to D-I-Y; all Eight-by-Fours must be
sold as 2240x1220;

So it should. Go into Wickes and see the wood sizes. We have fitted
kitchen units in mm for over 30 years.

red/black becomes brown/blue

The wiring should have gone over to brown blue in the 1970s. Being British
we only half went over. Appliances have brown/blue. We should go fully
metric instead of this half cocked situation we have. We buy petrol by the
litre, but cars are rated in miles per gallon. That is utterly stupid.

and you will only be able to purchase it using Euro-money.

The sooner the better. Well when it is advantageous to us valuewise.

"Andrew McKay" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 17:44:48 +0000, Andy Hall
wrote:

Just wait. He'll be telling us that people in the north east want a
regional assembly. Nanny knows best.

And what's the betting that the NE will gets its regional assembly?
The one thing you can rely upon with the Labour government is that
they will adopt whatever legislation they want, disregarding what the
people say.

See Brian Sharrocks post. I suppose we could go back to Thatcher/Major and
have people begging for dinners in just about ever the street.

How they forget so easily.

In article ,
Andrew McKay wrote:
And what's the betting that the NE will gets its regional assembly?
The one thing you can rely upon with the Labour government is that
they will adopt whatever legislation they want, disregarding what the
people say.

Then the Poll Tax - perhaps the most recent widely hated bit of
legislation that *had* to be repealed - would have been introduced by
Labour?

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In article ,
"IMM" writes:
Which clearly says you don't need a specialist plastic pipe cutter. Did
you understand that? Are you that retarded?

When you're in a hole, STOP DIGGING.
You're in danger of falling out the other side of the earth...

--
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"Andrew Gabriel" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"IMM" writes:

Which clearly says you don't need a specialist plastic pipe cutter.
Did
you understand that? Are you that retarded?

When you're in a hole, STOP DIGGING.
You're in danger of falling out the other side of the earth...


Not in a hole. Not digging. Hepworth said you don't need a specialist
cutter. That was clear.
--
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"Steve Firth" wrote in message
. ..
IMM wrote:

The other point is that retards who don't use the correct tool are
capable of making a complete pigs ear of it

That is true in the hands of retards.

So

snip bumpkin drivel

On Sun, 7 Nov 2004 00:19:49 -0000, "IMM" wrote:


"Andrew Gabriel" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"IMM" writes:

Which clearly says you don't need a specialist plastic pipe cutter.
Did
you understand that? Are you that retarded?

When you're in a hole, STOP DIGGING.
You're in danger of falling out the other side of the earth...


Not in a hole. Not digging. Hepworth said you don't need a specialist
cutter. That was clear.

You clearly should have used one.

How's Melbourne at the moment?





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"Andy Hall" wrote in message
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On Sun, 7 Nov 2004 00:19:49 -0000, "IMM" wrote:


"Andrew Gabriel" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"IMM" writes:

Which clearly says you don't need a specialist plastic pipe cutter.
Did
you understand that? Are you that retarded?

When you're in a hole, STOP DIGGING.
You're in danger of falling out the other side of the earth...


Not in a hole. Not digging. Hepworth said you don't need a specialist
cutter. That was clear.

snip tripe

On Sun, 7 Nov 2004 00:50:45 -0000, "IMM" wrote:


"Andy Hall" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 7 Nov 2004 00:19:49 -0000, "IMM" wrote:


"Andrew Gabriel" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"IMM" writes:

Which clearly says you don't need a specialist plastic pipe cutter.
Did
you understand that? Are you that retarded?

When you're in a hole, STOP DIGGING.
You're in danger of falling out the other side of the earth...


Not in a hole. Not digging. Hepworth said you don't need a specialist
cutter. That was clear.

snip tripe



I think that when you did your original snipping, that you snipped the
important bit which was *not* to use a hacksaw, but left the tripe
behind.

I wouldn't apply for a job as newspaper editor if I were you......



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On Sun, 7 Nov 2004 00:50:45 -0000, "IMM" wrote:


"Andy Hall" wrote in message
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On Sun, 7 Nov 2004 00:19:49 -0000, "IMM" wrote:


"Andrew Gabriel" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"IMM" writes:

Which clearly says you don't need a specialist plastic pipe
cutter.
Did
you understand that? Are you that retarded?

When you're in a hole, STOP DIGGING.
You're in danger of falling out the other side of the earth...

Not in a hole. Not digging. Hepworth said you don't need a
specialist
cutter. That was clear.

snip tripe

I think that when

snip tripe

Hepworth said you don't need a specialist cutter. That was clear.

On Sun, 7 Nov 2004 11:49:09 -0000, "IMM" wrote:


"Andy Hall" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 7 Nov 2004 00:50:45 -0000, "IMM" wrote:


"Andy Hall" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 7 Nov 2004 00:19:49 -0000, "IMM" wrote:


"Andrew Gabriel" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"IMM" writes:

Which clearly says you don't need a specialist plastic pipe
cutter.
Did
you understand that? Are you that retarded?

When you're in a hole, STOP DIGGING.
You're in danger of falling out the other side of the earth...

Not in a hole. Not digging. Hepworth said you don't need a
specialist
cutter. That was clear.

snip tripe

I think that when

snip tripe

Hepworth said you don't need a specialist cutter. That was clear.



What they actually said was:


"We do recommend the use of a Hep2O pipe cutter, however any pipe
cutter designed to cut plastics pipes should be suitable. One of the
major advantages of a purpose designed cutter is speed, however the
requirements for the cutter are that it should cut the tube square
without scoring or scratching the pipe or leaving burrs or swarf which
could get under the 'O' ring. It is for this reason that hacksaws
should not be used.

The inventive can find many ways of achieving a perfectly acceptable
clean, square cut using a variety of tools."


Presumably you're not inventive...........




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"Andy Hall" wrote in message
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On Sun, 7 Nov 2004 00:50:45 -0000, "IMM" wrote:


"Andy Hall" wrote in message
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On Sun, 7 Nov 2004 00:19:49 -0000, "IMM" wrote:


"Andrew Gabriel" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"IMM" writes:

Which clearly says you don't need a specialist plastic pipe
cutter.
Did
you understand that? Are you that retarded?

When you're in a hole, STOP DIGGING.
You're in danger of falling out the other side of the earth...

Not in a hole. Not digging. Hepworth said you don't need a
specialist
cutter. That was clear.

snip tripe

I think that when

snip tripe

Hepworth said you don't need a specialist cutter. That was clear.

What they actually said was:

The inventive can find many ways of achieving a perfectly acceptable
clean, square cut using a variety of tools."

The above clearly says that a specialist pipe cutter tool need not be used.
Can you understand that? Nah don't reply, you can't.

On Sun, 7 Nov 2004 13:13:42 -0000, "IMM" wrote:


Hepworth said you don't need a specialist cutter. That was clear.

What they actually said was:

The inventive can find many ways of achieving a perfectly acceptable
clean, square cut using a variety of tools."

The above clearly says that a specialist pipe cutter tool need not be used.
Can you understand that? Nah don't reply, you can't.

If you read the *complete* quote which you selectively edited then the
position is quite clear.

You have focussed only on the throw-away line. They are not saying
that they recommend or even that it's a good idea to use a "variety of
tools" - it's simply an observation that the inventive could do it.

In the rest of the quote, and in the instructions on the web site (and
indeed on the web sites of all other manufacturers), one is
specifically told not to use a hack saw.

So the reality is that you didn't read the instructions, used a
hacksaw (which you are told not to do) and, screwed up.
You didn't even display inventiveness in coming up with an
alternative.

To say that your position is untenable would be understating the
situation considerably. Government ministers have resigned for less.



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"Andy Hall" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 7 Nov 2004 13:13:42 -0000, "IMM" wrote:


Hepworth said you don't need a specialist cutter. That was clear.

What they actually said was:

The inventive can find many ways of achieving a perfectly acceptable
clean, square cut using a variety of tools."

The above clearly says that a specialist pipe cutter tool need not be
used.
Can you understand that? Nah don't reply, you can't.

If you read the *complete* quote which you selectively edited then the
position is quite clear.

You have

snip tripe .

Hepworth say..

"The inventive can find many ways of achieving a perfectly acceptable clean,
square cut using a variety of tools."

The above clearly says that a specialist pipe cutter tool need not be used.
Can you understand that? Nah don't reply, you can't.

On Sun, 7 Nov 2004 14:05:01 -0000, "IMM" wrote:


"Andy Hall" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 7 Nov 2004 13:13:42 -0000, "IMM" wrote:


Hepworth said you don't need a specialist cutter. That was clear.

What they actually said was:

The inventive can find many ways of achieving a perfectly acceptable
clean, square cut using a variety of tools."

The above clearly says that a specialist pipe cutter tool need not be
used.
Can you understand that? Nah don't reply, you can't.

If you read the *complete* quote which you selectively edited then the
position is quite clear.

You have

snip tripe .

Hepworth say..

"The inventive can find many ways of achieving a perfectly acceptable clean,
square cut using a variety of tools."

The above clearly says that a specialist pipe cutter tool need not be used.
Can you understand that? Nah don't reply, you can't.


You're right - it isn't worth it. One can generally reason with
children and those where the elevator doesn't go to the top floor, but
this would be a special case even for the saintly.

To quote the psychiatrist in Fawlty Towers:

"There's enough material here for an entire conference,"



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"Andy Hall" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 7 Nov 2004 14:05:01 -0000, "IMM" wrote:


"Andy Hall" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 7 Nov 2004 13:13:42 -0000, "IMM" wrote:


Hepworth said you don't need a specialist cutter. That was clear.

What they actually said was:

The inventive can find many ways of achieving a perfectly acceptable
clean, square cut using a variety of tools."

The above clearly says that a specialist pipe cutter tool need not be
used.
Can you understand that? Nah don't reply, you can't.

If you read the *complete* quote which you selectively edited then the
position is quite clear.

You have

snip tripe .

Hepworth say..

"The inventive can find many ways of achieving a perfectly acceptable
clean,
square cut using a variety of tools."

The above clearly says that a specialist pipe cutter tool need not be
used.
Can you understand that? Nah don't reply, you can't.

You're right - it isn't worth it.

Good. You are learning at last.