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Why do people say left hand down instead of left? We all know which way to turn the wheel to make the car go left, and it's the same in reverse. And if I'm reversing looking over my shoulder, one hand isn't on the wheel so the phrase makes no sense!
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FLUSH the subnormal sociopathic trolling attention whore's latest
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Commander Kinsey wrote:

Why do people say left hand down instead of left?


Because it avoids any uncertainty between driver's left and guider's
left, if they're facing different ways, or one is looking at the other
in a mirror.
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On 06/12/2021 10:13 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Why do people say left hand down instead of left? We all know which way
to turn the wheel to make the car go left, and it's the same in reverse.
And if I'm reversing looking over my shoulder, one hand isn't on the
wheel so the phrase makes no sense!


There are these things called mirrors that don't require you to look
over your shoulder.
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On 12/06/2021 17:13, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Why do people say left hand down instead of left? We all know which way
to turn the wheel to make the car go left, and it's the same in reverse.
And if I'm reversing looking over my shoulder, one hand isn't on the
wheel so the phrase makes no sense!


I take it you have never steered a boat with a tiller


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On 12/06/2021 05:37 pm, rbowman wrote:
On 06/12/2021 10:13 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Why do people say left hand down instead of left? We all know which way
to turn the wheel to make the car go left, and it's the same in reverse.
And if I'm reversing looking over my shoulder, one hand isn't on the
wheel so the phrase makes no sense!


There are these things called mirrors that don't require you to look
over your shoulder.


Even better: the little TV camera built into the rear of some modern
cars which outputs a display to the car's computer screen.

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In article , Commander Kinsey
wrote:
Why do people say left hand down instead of left? We all know which way
to turn the wheel to make the car go left, and it's the same in reverse.
And if I'm reversing looking over my shoulder, one hand isn't on the
wheel so the phrase makes no sense!


That was line in "The Navy Lark", a radio comedy programme from the 1950s.

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On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 17:32:41 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote:

Why do people say left hand down instead of left?


Because it avoids any uncertainty between driver's left and guider's
left, if they're facing different ways, or one is looking at the other
in a mirror.


Why on earth would you think it was guider's left? If you're helping someone move a car, it's obviously the car you're thinking about!
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On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 18:00:12 +0100, JNugent wrote:

On 12/06/2021 05:37 pm, rbowman wrote:
On 06/12/2021 10:13 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Why do people say left hand down instead of left? We all know which way
to turn the wheel to make the car go left, and it's the same in reverse.
And if I'm reversing looking over my shoulder, one hand isn't on the
wheel so the phrase makes no sense!


There are these things called mirrors that don't require you to look
over your shoulder.


Even better: the little TV camera built into the rear of some modern
cars which outputs a display to the car's computer screen.


Neither of those give you a full 180 degree+ view.
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On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 17:58:19 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 12/06/2021 17:13, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Why do people say left hand down instead of left? We all know which way
to turn the wheel to make the car go left, and it's the same in reverse.
And if I'm reversing looking over my shoulder, one hand isn't on the
wheel so the phrase makes no sense!


I take it you have never steered a boat with a tiller


Why would that matter? Unless the person operating the boat didn't know how to steer a boat, you're just telling them to move the boat left.


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On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 18:02:19 +0100, charles wrote:

In article , Commander Kinsey
wrote:
Why do people say left hand down instead of left? We all know which way
to turn the wheel to make the car go left, and it's the same in reverse.
And if I'm reversing looking over my shoulder, one hand isn't on the
wheel so the phrase makes no sense!


That was line in "The Navy Lark", a radio comedy programme from the 1950s.


Which was never meant to be taken seriously!
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On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 18:08:17 +0100, wrote:

On Saturday, June 12, 2021 at 12:13:11 PM UTC-4, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Why do people say left hand down instead of left? We all know which way to turn the wheel to make the car go left, and it's the same in reverse. And if I'm reversing looking over my shoulder, one hand isn't on the wheel so the phrase makes no sense!


You ranted about the same thing in 2017. Tedious.


You remembered I did that. You're not right in the head.
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On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 17:13:04 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"
wrote:

Why do people say left hand down instead of left?


They don't.

We all know which way to turn the wheel to make the car go left, and it's the same in reverse.


What, it's the opposite if you want the car to go left when going in
reverse? ;-)

And if I'm reversing looking over my shoulder, one hand isn't on the wheel so the phrase makes no sense!


It does when you understand it's function.

It's an instruction from someone who has a good idea which way the
wheels need to be when (often / typically) manoeuvring the car in
close quarters (like going up onto a vehicle lift) where there isn't
much room for error.

So, an experienced mechanic guiding someone not familiar with driving
vehicles up onto a ramp might say 'left hand down a bit' under the
assumption the driver is holding the wheel at 10 to 2 or similar. They
may well also guide an experienced driver the same way because they
would except / understand the terms without question.

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On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 17:32:41 +0100, Andy Burned, another mentally deficient,
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Because it avoids any uncertainty between driver's left and guider's
left, if they're facing different ways, or one is looking at the other
in a mirror.


You senile asshole STILL don't know what's going on? Just HOW senile are
you? LOL
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There are these things called mirrors that don't require you to look
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You STILL haven't learned your lesson, you retarded bigmouthed troll-feeding
Yankie swine? See you over in ahr again, you perverted old gossip! Are you
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I take it you have never steered a boat with a tiller


I take it you are too debile and senile to resist that idiotic troll's
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That was line in "The Navy Lark", a radio comedy programme from the 1950s.


That was another bait set out by the dumbest and best-known troll around,
which you senile asshole swallowed, hook, line and sinker!
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It does when you understand it's function.


You are so senile and d i m (you ridiculous veggietard) that you don't even
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On 06/12/2021 11:00 AM, JNugent wrote:
On 12/06/2021 05:37 pm, rbowman wrote:
On 06/12/2021 10:13 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Why do people say left hand down instead of left? We all know which way
to turn the wheel to make the car go left, and it's the same in reverse.
And if I'm reversing looking over my shoulder, one hand isn't on the
wheel so the phrase makes no sense!


There are these things called mirrors that don't require you to look
over your shoulder.


Even better: the little TV camera built into the rear of some modern
cars which outputs a display to the car's computer screen.


My new car has one of those. It comes in very handy to make sure I don't
run over the damn cat. For an animal supposed to be cleanly he loves to
roll in the driveway dirt.
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In article , Commander Kinsey
wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 18:02:19 +0100, charles
wrote:


In article , Commander Kinsey
wrote:
Why do people say left hand down instead of left? We all know which
way to turn the wheel to make the car go left, and it's the same in
reverse. And if I'm reversing looking over my shoulder, one hand isn't
on the wheel so the phrase makes no sense!


That was line in "The Navy Lark", a radio comedy programme from the
1950s.


Which was never meant to be taken seriously!


really?

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On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 17:13:04 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"
wrote:

Why do people say left hand down instead of left? We all know which way to turn the wheel to make the car go left, and it's the same in reverse. And if I'm reversing looking over my shoulder, one hand isn't on the wheel so the phrase makes no sense!


My father was a concert pianist. He was being given a lift by another
pianist. Dad knew the way and was giving verbal instructions. Every
time he said left or right he noticed a definite hesitation on the
part of the driver. Then he had an idea and, instead of "turn left" he
said "turn bass" and instead of "right", "treble". He said it worked a
treat!
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On 06/12/2021 11:00 AM, JNugent wrote:
On 12/06/2021 05:37 pm, rbowman wrote:
On 06/12/2021 10:13 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Why do people say left hand down instead of left? We all know which way
to turn the wheel to make the car go left, and it's the same in
reverse.
And if I'm reversing looking over my shoulder, one hand isn't on the
wheel so the phrase makes no sense!

There are these things called mirrors that don't require you to look
over your shoulder.


Even better: the little TV camera built into the rear of some modern
cars which outputs a display to the car's computer screen.


My new car has one of those. It comes in very handy to make sure I don't
run over the damn cat. For an animal supposed to be cleanly he loves to
roll in the driveway dirt.


He does that because he cant grip the tap in the shower.

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really?


As in, are you "really" a troll-feeding senile asshole?
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My new car has one of those. It comes in very handy to make sure I don't
run over the damn cat. For an animal supposed to be cleanly he loves to
roll in the driveway dirt.


Cool! You ARE really the coolest senile gossip ever seen on Usenet! LOL
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Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:



He does that because he cant grip the tap in the shower.


Oh, PLEASE, spare everyone your pathetic attempts at some sort of human
humour, senile sociopath!


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On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 10:37:40 -0600, rbowman posted for all of us to digest...


On 06/12/2021 10:13 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Why do people say left hand down instead of left? We all know which way
to turn the wheel to make the car go left, and it's the same in reverse.
And if I'm reversing looking over my shoulder, one hand isn't on the
wheel so the phrase makes no sense!


There are these things called mirrors that don't require you to look
over your shoulder.


Whadda yu mean mirrors? Whaddar day?

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My father was a concert pianist. He was being given a lift by another
pianist. Dad knew the way and was giving verbal instructions. Every
time he said left or right he noticed a definite hesitation on the
part of the driver. Then he had an idea and, instead of "turn left" he
said "turn bass" and instead of "right", "treble". He said it worked a
treat!


Oh, ****, another senile moron appeared to feed the troll with one of his
senile bull**** stories! tsk
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I thought it was invented by the BBC for the Navy Lark.
However it actually makes moor since on a bike or in an aircraft where you
lean into a turn.
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Why do people say left hand down instead of left? We all know which way to
turn the wheel to make the car go left, and it's the same in reverse. And
if I'm reversing looking over my shoulder, one hand isn't on the wheel so
the phrase makes no sense!



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I thought it was invented by the BBC for the Navy Lark.
However it actually makes moor since on a bike or in an aircraft where you
lean into a turn.
Brainless & Daft


It would make a LOT moor since [sic] if you shut your stupid gob,
troll-feeding senile cretin!
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On 13/06/2021 07:26, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 21:57:05 +0100, Graham Harrison
wrote:

On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 17:13:04 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"
wrote:

Why do people say left hand down instead of left? We all know which way to turn the wheel to make the car go left, and it's the same in reverse. And if I'm reversing looking over my shoulder, one hand isn't on the wheel so the phrase makes no sense!


My father was a concert pianist. He was being given a lift by another
pianist. Dad knew the way and was giving verbal instructions. Every
time he said left or right he noticed a definite hesitation on the
part of the driver. Then he had an idea and, instead of "turn left" he
said "turn bass" and instead of "right", "treble". He said it worked a
treat!


I thought it came from that radio series 'The Navy Lark' with Kenneth
Williams, Bill Pertwee and others. In it, HMS Troutbridge is crewed by
a bunch of incompetents, and instead of giving orders to the helmsman
such as 'steer 240 degrees', it was always 'left hand down a bit'.

But it may go back much further than that.

I always remember the overDundee cake...

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On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 17:13:04 +0100, Birdbrain Macaw (aka "Commander Kinsey",
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the pathological resident idiot and attention whore of all the uk ngs,
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FLUSH the subnormal sociopathic trolling attention whore's latest
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On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 17:32:41 +0100, Andy Burned, another mentally deficient,
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Because it avoids any uncertainty between driver's left and guider's
left, if they're facing different ways, or one is looking at the other
in a mirror.


You senile asshole STILL don't know what's going on? Just HOW senile are
you? LOL

Overzealous
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On Sun, 13 Jun 2021 06:58:07 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:



He does that because he cant grip the tap in the shower.


Oh, PLEASE, spare everyone your pathetic attempts at some sort of human
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Aviation
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On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 14:42:02 -0600, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
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My new car has one of those. It comes in very handy to make sure I don't
run over the damn cat. For an animal supposed to be cleanly he loves to
roll in the driveway dirt.


Cool! You ARE really the coolest senile gossip ever seen on Usenet! LOL

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There are these things called mirrors that don't require you to look
over your shoulder.


You STILL haven't learned your lesson, you retarded bigmouthed troll-feeding
Yankie swine? See you over in ahr again, you perverted old gossip! Are you
ready? BG


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On 13/06/21 6:08 am, Peeler wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 17:58:19 +0100, The Natural Idiot, the notorious,
troll-feeding senile asshole, blathered again:


I take it you have never steered a boat with a tiller


I take it you are too debile and senile to resist that idiotic troll's
idiotic baits, The Natural Idiot! G

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On 13/06/21 9:01 am, Peeler wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 21:48:42 +0100, charles, another mentally
deficient, troll-feeding, senile asshole, blathered:



really?


As in, are you "really" a troll-feeding senile asshole?

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On 13/06/21 6:10 am, Peeler wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 18:02:19 +0100, charles, another mentally
deficient, troll-feeding, senile asshole, blathered:


That was line in "The Navy Lark", a radio comedy programme from the 1950s.


That was another bait set out by the dumbest and best-known troll around,
which you senile asshole swallowed, hook, line and sinker!

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On 13/06/21 7:37 pm, Peeler wrote:
On Sun, 13 Jun 2021 08:30:01 +0100, Brainless & Daft, the notorious,
troll-feeding senile idiot, blathered again:

I thought it was invented by the BBC for the Navy Lark.
However it actually makes moor since on a bike or in an aircraft where you
lean into a turn.
Brainless & Daft


It would make a LOT moor since [sic] if you shut your stupid gob,
troll-feeding senile cretin!

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Default OT: Left hand down?

On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 17:13:04 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"
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Why do people say left hand down instead of left? We all know which way to turn the wheel to make the car go left, and it's the same in reverse.


Not if you're attempting a reverse turn with a trailer or caravan. I
have a story about that but I won't bore you with the details other
than to say that some of the onlookers were stunned into quiet
applause. HGV drivers? Pah! Kid's stuff!

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