Why do people say left hand down instead of left? We all know which way to turn the wheel to make the car go left, and it's the same in reverse. And if I'm reversing looking over my shoulder, one hand isn't on the wheel so the phrase makes no sense!

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Commander Kinsey wrote:

Why do people say left hand down instead of left?

Because it avoids any uncertainty between driver's left and guider's
left, if they're facing different ways, or one is looking at the other
in a mirror.

On 06/12/2021 10:13 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Why do people say left hand down instead of left? We all know which way
to turn the wheel to make the car go left, and it's the same in reverse.
And if I'm reversing looking over my shoulder, one hand isn't on the
wheel so the phrase makes no sense!

There are these things called mirrors that don't require you to look
over your shoulder.

On 12/06/2021 17:13, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Why do people say left hand down instead of left? We all know which way
to turn the wheel to make the car go left, and it's the same in reverse.
And if I'm reversing looking over my shoulder, one hand isn't on the
wheel so the phrase makes no sense!

I take it you have never steered a boat with a tiller


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On 12/06/2021 05:37 pm, rbowman wrote:
On 06/12/2021 10:13 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Why do people say left hand down instead of left? We all know which way
to turn the wheel to make the car go left, and it's the same in reverse.
And if I'm reversing looking over my shoulder, one hand isn't on the
wheel so the phrase makes no sense!

There are these things called mirrors that don't require you to look
over your shoulder.

Even better: the little TV camera built into the rear of some modern
cars which outputs a display to the car's computer screen.

In article , Commander Kinsey
wrote:
Why do people say left hand down instead of left? We all know which way
to turn the wheel to make the car go left, and it's the same in reverse.
And if I'm reversing looking over my shoulder, one hand isn't on the
wheel so the phrase makes no sense!

That was line in "The Navy Lark", a radio comedy programme from the 1950s.

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On Saturday, June 12, 2021 at 12:13:11 PM UTC-4, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Why do people say left hand down instead of left? We all know which way to turn the wheel to make the car go left, and it's the same in reverse. And if I'm reversing looking over my shoulder, one hand isn't on the wheel so the phrase makes no sense!

You ranted about the same thing in 2017. Tedious.

Cindy Hamilton

On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 17:32:41 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote:

Why do people say left hand down instead of left?

Because it avoids any uncertainty between driver's left and guider's
left, if they're facing different ways, or one is looking at the other
in a mirror.

Why on earth would you think it was guider's left? If you're helping someone move a car, it's obviously the car you're thinking about!

On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 18:00:12 +0100, JNugent wrote:

On 12/06/2021 05:37 pm, rbowman wrote:
On 06/12/2021 10:13 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Why do people say left hand down instead of left? We all know which way
to turn the wheel to make the car go left, and it's the same in reverse.
And if I'm reversing looking over my shoulder, one hand isn't on the
wheel so the phrase makes no sense!

There are these things called mirrors that don't require you to look
over your shoulder.

Even better: the little TV camera built into the rear of some modern
cars which outputs a display to the car's computer screen.

Neither of those give you a full 180 degree+ view.

On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 17:58:19 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 12/06/2021 17:13, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Why do people say left hand down instead of left? We all know which way
to turn the wheel to make the car go left, and it's the same in reverse.
And if I'm reversing looking over my shoulder, one hand isn't on the
wheel so the phrase makes no sense!

I take it you have never steered a boat with a tiller

Why would that matter? Unless the person operating the boat didn't know how to steer a boat, you're just telling them to move the boat left.

On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 18:02:19 +0100, charles wrote:

In article , Commander Kinsey
wrote:
Why do people say left hand down instead of left? We all know which way
to turn the wheel to make the car go left, and it's the same in reverse.
And if I'm reversing looking over my shoulder, one hand isn't on the
wheel so the phrase makes no sense!

That was line in "The Navy Lark", a radio comedy programme from the 1950s.

Which was never meant to be taken seriously!

On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 18:08:17 +0100, wrote:

On Saturday, June 12, 2021 at 12:13:11 PM UTC-4, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Why do people say left hand down instead of left? We all know which way to turn the wheel to make the car go left, and it's the same in reverse. And if I'm reversing looking over my shoulder, one hand isn't on the wheel so the phrase makes no sense!

You ranted about the same thing in 2017. Tedious.

You remembered I did that. You're not right in the head.

On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 17:32:41 +0100, Andy Burned, another mentally deficient,
troll-feeding, senile asshole, blathered:


Because it avoids any uncertainty between driver's left and guider's
left, if they're facing different ways, or one is looking at the other
in a mirror.

You senile asshole STILL don't know what's going on? Just HOW senile are
you? LOL

On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 10:37:40 -0600, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

There are these things called mirrors that don't require you to look
over your shoulder.

You STILL haven't learned your lesson, you retarded bigmouthed troll-feeding
Yankie swine? See you over in ahr again, you perverted old gossip! Are you
ready? BG

On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 17:58:19 +0100, The Natural Idiot, the notorious,
troll-feeding senile asshole, blathered again:


I take it you have never steered a boat with a tiller

I take it you are too debile and senile to resist that idiotic troll's
idiotic baits, The Natural Idiot! G

On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 18:02:19 +0100, charles, another mentally
deficient, troll-feeding, senile asshole, blathered:


That was line in "The Navy Lark", a radio comedy programme from the 1950s.

That was another bait set out by the dumbest and best-known troll around,
which you senile asshole swallowed, hook, line and sinker!

On 06/12/2021 11:00 AM, JNugent wrote:
On 12/06/2021 05:37 pm, rbowman wrote:
On 06/12/2021 10:13 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Why do people say left hand down instead of left? We all know which way
to turn the wheel to make the car go left, and it's the same in reverse.
And if I'm reversing looking over my shoulder, one hand isn't on the
wheel so the phrase makes no sense!

There are these things called mirrors that don't require you to look
over your shoulder.

Even better: the little TV camera built into the rear of some modern
cars which outputs a display to the car's computer screen.


My new car has one of those. It comes in very handy to make sure I don't
run over the damn cat. For an animal supposed to be cleanly he loves to
roll in the driveway dirt.

In article , Commander Kinsey
wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 18:02:19 +0100, charles
wrote:

In article , Commander Kinsey
wrote:
Why do people say left hand down instead of left? We all know which
way to turn the wheel to make the car go left, and it's the same in
reverse. And if I'm reversing looking over my shoulder, one hand isn't
on the wheel so the phrase makes no sense!

That was line in "The Navy Lark", a radio comedy programme from the
1950s.

Which was never meant to be taken seriously!

really?

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"rbowman" wrote in message
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On 06/12/2021 11:00 AM, JNugent wrote:
On 12/06/2021 05:37 pm, rbowman wrote:
On 06/12/2021 10:13 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Why do people say left hand down instead of left? We all know which way
to turn the wheel to make the car go left, and it's the same in
reverse.
And if I'm reversing looking over my shoulder, one hand isn't on the
wheel so the phrase makes no sense!

There are these things called mirrors that don't require you to look
over your shoulder.

Even better: the little TV camera built into the rear of some modern
cars which outputs a display to the car's computer screen.


My new car has one of those. It comes in very handy to make sure I don't
run over the damn cat. For an animal supposed to be cleanly he loves to
roll in the driveway dirt.

He does that because he cant grip the tap in the shower.

On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 21:48:42 +0100, charles, another mentally
deficient, troll-feeding, senile asshole, blathered:



really?

As in, are you "really" a troll-feeding senile asshole?

On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 14:42:02 -0600, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

My new car has one of those. It comes in very handy to make sure I don't
run over the damn cat. For an animal supposed to be cleanly he loves to
roll in the driveway dirt.

Cool! You ARE really the coolest senile gossip ever seen on Usenet! LOL

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Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:



He does that because he cant grip the tap in the shower.

Oh, PLEASE, spare everyone your pathetic attempts at some sort of human
humour, senile sociopath!

On Saturday, June 12, 2021 at 12:13:11 PM UTC-4, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Why do people say left hand down instead of left? We all know which way to turn the wheel to make the car go left, and it's the same in reverse. And if I'm reversing looking over my shoulder, one hand isn't on the wheel so the phrase makes no sense!

Which people say "left hand down"? How is it used in practice?

I have never heard that phrase.

On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 10:37:40 -0600, rbowman posted for all of us to digest...


On 06/12/2021 10:13 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Why do people say left hand down instead of left? We all know which way
to turn the wheel to make the car go left, and it's the same in reverse.
And if I'm reversing looking over my shoulder, one hand isn't on the
wheel so the phrase makes no sense!

There are these things called mirrors that don't require you to look
over your shoulder.

Whadda yu mean mirrors? Whaddar day?

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Tekkie

On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 14:04:35 -0700 (PDT), Marilyn Manson posted for all of us
to digest...


On Saturday, June 12, 2021 at 12:13:11 PM UTC-4, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Why do people say left hand down instead of left? We all know which way to turn the wheel to make the car go left, and it's the same in reverse. And if I'm reversing looking over my shoulder, one hand isn't on the wheel so the phrase makes no sense!

Which people say "left hand down"? How is it used in practice?

I have never heard that phrase.

Me neither...

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On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 14:04:35 -0700 (PDT), Marilyn Manson, another
troll-feeding, senile twit, blathered:

Which people say "left hand down"? How is it used in practice?

I have never heard that phrase.

It's a troll! And you HAVE heard about it already! tsk

In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 12 Jun 2021 14:04:35 -0700 (PDT), Marilyn
Manson wrote:

On Saturday, June 12, 2021 at 12:13:11 PM UTC-4, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Why do people say left hand down instead of left? We all know which way to turn the wheel to make the car go left, and it's the same in reverse. And if I'm reversing looking over my shoulder, one hand isn't on the wheel so the phrase makes no sense!

Which people say "left hand down"? How is it used in practice?

I have never heard that phrase.

I never heard it either.

On Saturday, June 12, 2021 at 11:13:11 AM UTC-5, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Why do people say left hand down instead of left? We all know which way to turn the wheel to make the car go left, and it's the same in reverse. And if I'm reversing looking over my shoulder, one hand isn't on the wheel so the phrase makes no sens

The only thing I can think of is from the old days. There was a time when drivers used hand signals to signal
left, right, or stop with their left hands. That might still be legal but I don't remember anyone using them.

On Saturday, June 12, 2021 at 8:54:10 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Saturday, June 12, 2021 at 11:13:11 AM UTC-5, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Why do people say left hand down instead of left? We all know which way to turn the wheel to make the car go left, and it's the same in reverse. And if I'm reversing looking over my shoulder, one hand isn't on the wheel so the phrase makes no sens
The only thing I can think of is from the old days. There was a time when drivers used hand signals to signal
left, right, or stop with their left hands. That might still be legal but I don't remember anyone using them.

Not only are hand signals still legal, but a road test examiner may ask you to at least
demonstrate one or more signal or recognize one or more signal as part of the test.

Keep in mind that drivers are required to signal their intention to turn, slow or stop.
If that can't be accomplished with vehicle's equipment, then hand signals must be used.
Not just legal, but the law.

Some people say that you should use hand signals in bright sunlight, bumper to bumper
traffic and any other situation where your turn signals might be hard to see.

Kids should be taught to use hand signals while they are riding a bicycle as soon as
they are proficient/confident enough to ride with one hand. You might be surprised to
hear that the NHTSA adds a 4th hand signal for bicyclists (Alternative Right Turn) and
also allows either arm to be used for slowing or stopping.

https://www.nhtsa.gov/staticfiles/nt...andSignals.pdf

"micky" wrote in message
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In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 12 Jun 2021 14:04:35 -0700 (PDT), Marilyn
Manson wrote:

On Saturday, June 12, 2021 at 12:13:11 PM UTC-4, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Why do people say left hand down instead of left? We all know which way
to turn the wheel to make the car go left, and it's the same in reverse.
And if I'm reversing looking over my shoulder, one hand isn't on the
wheel so the phrase makes no sense!

Which people say "left hand down"? How is it used in practice?

I have never heard that phrase.

I never heard it either.

Most likely it's a British thing. Not unusual in places like Australia and
New Zealand.

Dean Hoffman wrote
Commander Kinsey wrote

Why do people say left hand down instead of left?
We all know which way to turn the wheel to make
the car go left, and it's the same in reverse. And if
I'm reversing looking over my shoulder, one hand
isn't on the wheel so the phrase makes no sens

The only thing I can think of is from the old days.

Dunno, hard to see that unless you mean say the military during WW2 etc.

There was a time when drivers used hand signals
to signal left, right, or stop with their left hands.

Nope, with their right hands, Britain is right hand
drive and that phrase doesnt appear to be that
common outside right hand drive countrys.

And there was no down involved. There was a way to
indicate a left turn by the driver in a right hand drive
car but I cant remember what what it was. Hand moving
downward indicated slowing down before lights were
common.

That might still be legal

Yeah, it is still used by bicycle riders.

but I don't remember anyone using them.

I did see it very rarely indeed in my early days
and still see it quite a bit with bicycle riders.

I thought it was invented by the BBC for the Navy Lark.
However it actually makes moor since on a bike or in an aircraft where you
lean into a turn.
Brian

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"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
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Why do people say left hand down instead of left? We all know which way to
turn the wheel to make the car go left, and it's the same in reverse. And
if I'm reversing looking over my shoulder, one hand isn't on the wheel so
the phrase makes no sense!

On Sun, 13 Jun 2021 08:30:01 +0100, Brainless & Daft, the notorious,
troll-feeding senile idiot, blathered again:

I thought it was invented by the BBC for the Navy Lark.
However it actually makes moor since on a bike or in an aircraft where you
lean into a turn.
Brainless & Daft

It would make a LOT moor since [sic] if you shut your stupid gob,
troll-feeding senile cretin!

On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 17:54:06 -0700 (PDT), Dean Hoffman, another mentally
deficient, troll-feeding, senile ASSHOLE, babbled again:


The only thing I can think of is from the old days.

The ONLY thing you SHOULD think off is that you are being baited, yet again,
by a PROVEN clinically insane attention whore, you troll-feeding senile
asshole! tsk

On Sun, 13 Jun 2021 12:58:11 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

FLUSH the trolling senile pest's latest troll**** unread

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On Saturday, June 12, 2021 at 1:49:07 PM UTC-4, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 18:08:17 +0100, wrote:

On Saturday, June 12, 2021 at 12:13:11 PM UTC-4, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Why do people say left hand down instead of left? We all know which way to turn the wheel to make the car go left, and it's the same in reverse. And if I'm reversing looking over my shoulder, one hand isn't on the wheel so the phrase makes no sense!

You ranted about the same thing in 2017. Tedious.
You remembered I did that. You're not right in the head.

I remembered you whinged about it before. I had to look up the date.

Cindy Hamilton

On 13/06/21 4:16 am, Peeler wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 17:13:04 +0100, Birdbrain Macaw (aka "Commander Kinsey",
"James Wilkinson", "Steven ******","Bruce Farquar", "Fred Johnson, etc.),
the pathological resident idiot and attention whore of all the uk ngs,
blathered again:

FLUSH the subnormal sociopathic trolling attention whore's latest
attention-baiting sick bull**** unread again


Sea

On 13/06/21 6:04 am, Peeler wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 17:32:41 +0100, Andy Burned, another mentally deficient,
troll-feeding, senile asshole, blathered:


Because it avoids any uncertainty between driver's left and guider's
left, if they're facing different ways, or one is looking at the other
in a mirror.

You senile asshole STILL don't know what's going on? Just HOW senile are
you? LOL

Overzealous

On 13/06/21 9:04 am, Peeler wrote:
On Sun, 13 Jun 2021 06:58:07 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:



He does that because he cant grip the tap in the shower.

Oh, PLEASE, spare everyone your pathetic attempts at some sort of human
humour, senile sociopath!

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