Why do people say left hand down instead of left? We all know which way to turn the wheel to make the car go left, and it's the same in reverse. And if I'm reversing looking over my shoulder, one hand isn't on the wheel so the phrase makes no sense!

On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 17:13:04 +0100, Birdbrain Macaw (aka "Commander Kinsey",
"James Wilkinson", "Steven ******","Bruce Farquar", "Fred Johnson, etc.),
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blathered again:

FLUSH the subnormal sociopathic trolling attention whore's latest
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On 13/06/21 4:16 am, Peeler wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 17:13:04 +0100, Birdbrain Macaw (aka "Commander Kinsey",
"James Wilkinson", "Steven ******","Bruce Farquar", "Fred Johnson, etc.),
the pathological resident idiot and attention whore of all the uk ngs,
blathered again:

FLUSH the subnormal sociopathic trolling attention whore's latest
attention-baiting sick bull**** unread again


Sea

Commander Kinsey wrote:

Why do people say left hand down instead of left?

Because it avoids any uncertainty between driver's left and guider's
left, if they're facing different ways, or one is looking at the other
in a mirror.

On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 17:32:41 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote:

Why do people say left hand down instead of left?

Because it avoids any uncertainty between driver's left and guider's
left, if they're facing different ways, or one is looking at the other
in a mirror.

Why on earth would you think it was guider's left? If you're helping someone move a car, it's obviously the car you're thinking about!

On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 17:32:41 +0100, Andy Burned, another mentally deficient,
troll-feeding, senile asshole, blathered:


Because it avoids any uncertainty between driver's left and guider's
left, if they're facing different ways, or one is looking at the other
in a mirror.

You senile asshole STILL don't know what's going on? Just HOW senile are
you? LOL

On 13/06/21 6:04 am, Peeler wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 17:32:41 +0100, Andy Burned, another mentally deficient,
troll-feeding, senile asshole, blathered:


Because it avoids any uncertainty between driver's left and guider's
left, if they're facing different ways, or one is looking at the other
in a mirror.

You senile asshole STILL don't know what's going on? Just HOW senile are
you? LOL

Overzealous

On 06/12/2021 10:13 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Why do people say left hand down instead of left? We all know which way
to turn the wheel to make the car go left, and it's the same in reverse.
And if I'm reversing looking over my shoulder, one hand isn't on the
wheel so the phrase makes no sense!

There are these things called mirrors that don't require you to look
over your shoulder.

On 12/06/2021 05:37 pm, rbowman wrote:
On 06/12/2021 10:13 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Why do people say left hand down instead of left? We all know which way
to turn the wheel to make the car go left, and it's the same in reverse.
And if I'm reversing looking over my shoulder, one hand isn't on the
wheel so the phrase makes no sense!

There are these things called mirrors that don't require you to look
over your shoulder.

Even better: the little TV camera built into the rear of some modern
cars which outputs a display to the car's computer screen.

On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 18:00:12 +0100, JNugent wrote:

On 12/06/2021 05:37 pm, rbowman wrote:
On 06/12/2021 10:13 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Why do people say left hand down instead of left? We all know which way
to turn the wheel to make the car go left, and it's the same in reverse.
And if I'm reversing looking over my shoulder, one hand isn't on the
wheel so the phrase makes no sense!

There are these things called mirrors that don't require you to look
over your shoulder.

Even better: the little TV camera built into the rear of some modern
cars which outputs a display to the car's computer screen.

Neither of those give you a full 180 degree+ view.

On 06/12/2021 11:00 AM, JNugent wrote:
On 12/06/2021 05:37 pm, rbowman wrote:
On 06/12/2021 10:13 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Why do people say left hand down instead of left? We all know which way
to turn the wheel to make the car go left, and it's the same in reverse.
And if I'm reversing looking over my shoulder, one hand isn't on the
wheel so the phrase makes no sense!

There are these things called mirrors that don't require you to look
over your shoulder.

Even better: the little TV camera built into the rear of some modern
cars which outputs a display to the car's computer screen.


My new car has one of those. It comes in very handy to make sure I don't
run over the damn cat. For an animal supposed to be cleanly he loves to
roll in the driveway dirt.

"rbowman" wrote in message
...
On 06/12/2021 11:00 AM, JNugent wrote:
On 12/06/2021 05:37 pm, rbowman wrote:
On 06/12/2021 10:13 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Why do people say left hand down instead of left? We all know which way
to turn the wheel to make the car go left, and it's the same in
reverse.
And if I'm reversing looking over my shoulder, one hand isn't on the
wheel so the phrase makes no sense!

There are these things called mirrors that don't require you to look
over your shoulder.

Even better: the little TV camera built into the rear of some modern
cars which outputs a display to the car's computer screen.


My new car has one of those. It comes in very handy to make sure I don't
run over the damn cat. For an animal supposed to be cleanly he loves to
roll in the driveway dirt.

He does that because he cant grip the tap in the shower.

On Sun, 13 Jun 2021 06:58:07 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:



He does that because he cant grip the tap in the shower.

Oh, PLEASE, spare everyone your pathetic attempts at some sort of human
humour, senile sociopath!

On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 21:58:07 +0100, Rod Speed wrote:



"rbowman" wrote in message
...
On 06/12/2021 11:00 AM, JNugent wrote:
On 12/06/2021 05:37 pm, rbowman wrote:
On 06/12/2021 10:13 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Why do people say left hand down instead of left? We all know which way
to turn the wheel to make the car go left, and it's the same in
reverse.
And if I'm reversing looking over my shoulder, one hand isn't on the
wheel so the phrase makes no sense!

There are these things called mirrors that don't require you to look
over your shoulder.

Even better: the little TV camera built into the rear of some modern
cars which outputs a display to the car's computer screen.


My new car has one of those. It comes in very handy to make sure I don't
run over the damn cat. For an animal supposed to be cleanly he loves to
roll in the driveway dirt.

He does that because he cant grip the tap in the shower.

That's because they're pathetic and can't control their surroundings. Parrots can.
https://youtu.be/IzTnARclHkY

On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 14:42:02 -0600, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

My new car has one of those. It comes in very handy to make sure I don't
run over the damn cat. For an animal supposed to be cleanly he loves to
roll in the driveway dirt.

Cool! You ARE really the coolest senile gossip ever seen on Usenet! LOL

On 13/06/21 9:02 am, Peeler wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 14:42:02 -0600, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

My new car has one of those. It comes in very handy to make sure I don't
run over the damn cat. For an animal supposed to be cleanly he loves to
roll in the driveway dirt.

Cool! You ARE really the coolest senile gossip ever seen on Usenet! LOL

Bookstore

On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 21:42:02 +0100, rbowman wrote:

On 06/12/2021 11:00 AM, JNugent wrote:
On 12/06/2021 05:37 pm, rbowman wrote:
On 06/12/2021 10:13 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Why do people say left hand down instead of left? We all know which way
to turn the wheel to make the car go left, and it's the same in reverse.
And if I'm reversing looking over my shoulder, one hand isn't on the
wheel so the phrase makes no sense!

There are these things called mirrors that don't require you to look
over your shoulder.

Even better: the little TV camera built into the rear of some modern
cars which outputs a display to the car's computer screen.

My new car has one of those.

Does it display it in mirror language so you're used to the output like a mirror? If not I can imagine people turning the wrong way.

It comes in very handy to make sure I don't
run over the damn cat. For an animal supposed to be cleanly he loves to
roll in the driveway dirt.

Cats are the dirtiest creatures on the planet, despite the myth. They don't bathe, they just lick, which doesn't remove fleas for example. Imagine if instead of taking a bath or shower, you just licked your finger and rubbed it on your skin. Apart from taking 100 times longer, it would be 100 times less effective.

I'm surprised your cat doesn't run off when it hears the engine. Every cat I've owned/known/seen is scared ****less of engines, especially when mine was sleeping in the actual engine bay when I started it. It's lucky it wasn't in contact with the belts.

On 06/13/2021 11:38 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Does it display it in mirror language so you're used to the output like
a mirror? If not I can imagine people turning the wrong way.

No, it's just a camera. I always bacl into parking spaces if possible
and other than the cat all I use it for is to see the concrete stops
that are usually too narrow to see in the mirrors.

Cats are the dirtiest creatures on the planet, despite the myth. They
don't bathe, they just lick, which doesn't remove fleas for example.
Imagine if instead of taking a bath or shower, you just licked your
finger and rubbed it on your skin. Apart from taking 100 times longer,
it would be 100 times less effective.

The cat has been curious when I'm washing my face at the bathroom sink.
I've offered to scrub him down but he isn't interested.

A couple of weeks ago he managed to be in the wrong place at the wrong
time and I dripped some Spectracide (weed and grass killer) on his butt.
He definitely didn't appreciate being held under the lawn spigot.

I'm surprised your cat doesn't run off when it hears the engine. Every
cat I've owned/known/seen is scared ****less of engines, especially when
mine was sleeping in the actual engine bay when I started it. It's
lucky it wasn't in contact with the belts.

The cat doesn't mind the car or motorcycle. In fact he appears from
someplace when I drive in. He'll lounge around on the lawn while I
mowing until I get too close and then he'll go wherever he goes. He's
back when the engine stops.

On 12/06/2021 18:00, JNugent wrote:
On 12/06/2021 05:37 pm, rbowman wrote:
On 06/12/2021 10:13 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Why do people say left hand down instead of left? We all know which way
to turn the wheel to make the car go left, and it's the same in reverse.
And if I'm reversing looking over my shoulder, one hand isn't on the
wheel so the phrase makes no sense!

There are these things called mirrors that don't require you to look
over your shoulder.

Even better: the little TV camera built into the rear of some modern
cars which outputs a display to the car's computer screen.

Better still the two proper CCTV cameras that I have on each of two
vehicles, with a proper TV screen for the display.

Bill

On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 10:37:40 -0600, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

There are these things called mirrors that don't require you to look
over your shoulder.

You STILL haven't learned your lesson, you retarded bigmouthed troll-feeding
Yankie swine? See you over in ahr again, you perverted old gossip! Are you
ready? BG

On 13/06/21 6:06 am, Peeler wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 10:37:40 -0600, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

There are these things called mirrors that don't require you to look
over your shoulder.

You STILL haven't learned your lesson, you retarded bigmouthed troll-feeding
Yankie swine? See you over in ahr again, you perverted old gossip! Are you
ready? BG


Void

On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 10:37:40 -0600, rbowman posted for all of us to digest...


On 06/12/2021 10:13 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Why do people say left hand down instead of left? We all know which way
to turn the wheel to make the car go left, and it's the same in reverse.
And if I'm reversing looking over my shoulder, one hand isn't on the
wheel so the phrase makes no sense!

There are these things called mirrors that don't require you to look
over your shoulder.

Whadda yu mean mirrors? Whaddar day?

--
Tekkie

On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 22:16:05 +0100, Tekkie© wrote:


On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 10:37:40 -0600, rbowman posted for all of us to digest...


On 06/12/2021 10:13 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Why do people say left hand down instead of left? We all know which way
to turn the wheel to make the car go left, and it's the same in reverse.
And if I'm reversing looking over my shoulder, one hand isn't on the
wheel so the phrase makes no sense!

There are these things called mirrors that don't require you to look
over your shoulder.

Whadda yu mean mirrors? Whaddar day?

Things that should be fitted to bicycles.

On 06/13/2021 11:53 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 22:16:05 +0100, Tekkie© wrote:


On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 10:37:40 -0600, rbowman posted for all of us to
digest...


On 06/12/2021 10:13 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Why do people say left hand down instead of left? We all know which
way
to turn the wheel to make the car go left, and it's the same in
reverse.
And if I'm reversing looking over my shoulder, one hand isn't on the
wheel so the phrase makes no sense!

There are these things called mirrors that don't require you to look
over your shoulder.

Whadda yu mean mirrors? Whaddar day?

Things that should be fitted to bicycles.

One of my bicycles has a mirror and I miss it when I'm riding the one
without.

On Sun, 13 Jun 2021 22:13:25 -0600, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

One of my bicycles has a mirror and I miss it when I'm riding the one
without.

As much as you miss the unwashed Scottish ******'s cock when he's not around
for a while, you devoted senile sucker of troll cock?

On 14/06/2021 05:13, rbowman wrote:
On 06/13/2021 11:53 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 22:16:05 +0100, Tekkie© wrote:


On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 10:37:40 -0600, rbowman posted for all of us to
digest...


On 06/12/2021 10:13 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Why do people say left hand down instead of left? We all know which
way
to turn the wheel to make the car go left, and it's the same in
reverse.
And if I'm reversing looking over my shoulder, one hand isn't on the
wheel so the phrase makes no sense!

There are these things called mirrors that don't require you to look
over your shoulder.

Whadda yu mean mirrors? Whaddar day?

Things that should be fitted to bicycles.

One of my bicycles has a mirror and I miss it when I'm riding the one
without.
Makes getting the mascara right very hard


--
Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have
guns, why should we let them have ideas?

Josef Stalin

On 12/06/2021 17:13, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Why do people say left hand down instead of left? We all know which way
to turn the wheel to make the car go left, and it's the same in reverse.
And if I'm reversing looking over my shoulder, one hand isn't on the
wheel so the phrase makes no sense!

I take it you have never steered a boat with a tiller


--
Its easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.
Mark Twain

On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 17:58:19 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 12/06/2021 17:13, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Why do people say left hand down instead of left? We all know which way
to turn the wheel to make the car go left, and it's the same in reverse.
And if I'm reversing looking over my shoulder, one hand isn't on the
wheel so the phrase makes no sense!

I take it you have never steered a boat with a tiller

Why would that matter? Unless the person operating the boat didn't know how to steer a boat, you're just telling them to move the boat left.

On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 17:58:19 +0100, The Natural Idiot, the notorious,
troll-feeding senile asshole, blathered again:


I take it you have never steered a boat with a tiller

I take it you are too debile and senile to resist that idiotic troll's
idiotic baits, The Natural Idiot! G

On 13/06/21 6:08 am, Peeler wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 17:58:19 +0100, The Natural Idiot, the notorious,
troll-feeding senile asshole, blathered again:


I take it you have never steered a boat with a tiller

I take it you are too debile and senile to resist that idiotic troll's
idiotic baits, The Natural Idiot! G

All-purpose

In article , Commander Kinsey
wrote:
Why do people say left hand down instead of left? We all know which way
to turn the wheel to make the car go left, and it's the same in reverse.
And if I'm reversing looking over my shoulder, one hand isn't on the
wheel so the phrase makes no sense!

That was line in "The Navy Lark", a radio comedy programme from the 1950s.

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 18:02:19 +0100, charles wrote:

In article , Commander Kinsey
wrote:
Why do people say left hand down instead of left? We all know which way
to turn the wheel to make the car go left, and it's the same in reverse.
And if I'm reversing looking over my shoulder, one hand isn't on the
wheel so the phrase makes no sense!

That was line in "The Navy Lark", a radio comedy programme from the 1950s.

Which was never meant to be taken seriously!

In article , Commander Kinsey
wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 18:02:19 +0100, charles
wrote:

In article , Commander Kinsey
wrote:
Why do people say left hand down instead of left? We all know which
way to turn the wheel to make the car go left, and it's the same in
reverse. And if I'm reversing looking over my shoulder, one hand isn't
on the wheel so the phrase makes no sense!

That was line in "The Navy Lark", a radio comedy programme from the
1950s.

Which was never meant to be taken seriously!

really?

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 21:48:42 +0100, charles, another mentally
deficient, troll-feeding, senile asshole, blathered:



really?

As in, are you "really" a troll-feeding senile asshole?

On 13/06/21 9:01 am, Peeler wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 21:48:42 +0100, charles, another mentally
deficient, troll-feeding, senile asshole, blathered:



really?

As in, are you "really" a troll-feeding senile asshole?

Spying

In message , charles
writes
In article , Commander Kinsey
wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 18:02:19 +0100, charles
wrote:

In article , Commander Kinsey
wrote:
Why do people say left hand down instead of left? We all know which
way to turn the wheel to make the car go left, and it's the same in
reverse. And if I'm reversing looking over my shoulder, one hand isn't
on the wheel so the phrase makes no sense!

That was line in "The Navy Lark", a radio comedy programme from the
1950s.

Which was never meant to be taken seriously!

really?

My illusions have been completely shattered!
--
Ian

On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 18:02:19 +0100, charles, another mentally
deficient, troll-feeding, senile asshole, blathered:


That was line in "The Navy Lark", a radio comedy programme from the 1950s.

That was another bait set out by the dumbest and best-known troll around,
which you senile asshole swallowed, hook, line and sinker!

On 13/06/21 6:10 am, Peeler wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 18:02:19 +0100, charles, another mentally
deficient, troll-feeding, senile asshole, blathered:


That was line in "The Navy Lark", a radio comedy programme from the 1950s.

That was another bait set out by the dumbest and best-known troll around,
which you senile asshole swallowed, hook, line and sinker!

Imperative

On 12/06/2021 18:02, charles wrote:


That was line in "The Navy Lark", a radio comedy programme from the 1950s.

60s wasn't it?

Bill

On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 17:13:04 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"
wrote:

Why do people say left hand down instead of left?

They don't.

We all know which way to turn the wheel to make the car go left, and it's the same in reverse.

What, it's the opposite if you want the car to go left when going in
reverse? ;-)

And if I'm reversing looking over my shoulder, one hand isn't on the wheel so the phrase makes no sense!

It does when you understand it's function.

It's an instruction from someone who has a good idea which way the
wheels need to be when (often / typically) manoeuvring the car in
close quarters (like going up onto a vehicle lift) where there isn't
much room for error.

So, an experienced mechanic guiding someone not familiar with driving
vehicles up onto a ramp might say 'left hand down a bit' under the
assumption the driver is holding the wheel at 10 to 2 or similar. They
may well also guide an experienced driver the same way because they
would except / understand the terms without question.

Cheers, T i m