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On Jun 8, 2021 at 1:32:30 PM MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote
: "Snit" wrote in message ... On Jun 8, 2021 at 12:56:44 PM MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote : "Snit" wrote in message ... On Jun 7, 2021 at 7:34:58 PM MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote : Dunno, nothing useful on that with https://www.google.com/search?q=herd...ty+in+New+York Gotta link ? Did more looking into this. Need 70% to get to herd immunity: It is COVID fatigue causing compromises I think, 85 to 90 percent is better but 70 sounds more "doable" at this point in time. Not enough IMO. I have the same feeling -- but no evidence to back it. You do actually with the R0 of the new more virulent strains. This is what I was asking for evidence of. Do you have any? Would love to see the research you are referring to. Not clear what you want, the differing R0 with the more virulent strains or the need for a higher percentage than 70% with the R0 of the more virulent strains. Evidence of what you say. Which bit of what I said there ? reams of your troll**** flushed where it belongs -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. |
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On Jun 8, 2021 at 1:05:21 PM MST, "Snit" wrote
: On Jun 8, 2021 at 12:58:33 PM MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote : "Snit" wrote in message ... On Jun 7, 2021 at 7:31:16 PM MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote : The good news is the vaccines seem to work better than first anticipated in terms of preventing the disease at all. Not just seems to, has been proven to do that now. I could quibble over semantics and scientific terms, No you couldnt with that, it has been proven. By all means show the proof (not just support). You are free to chase that up for yourself. No offence, but I did not think you would be able to show any. I can but dont take that troll bait. In science there are few proofs Thats mindless bull****. -- but there is often strong support. Mindless hair splitting/pathetic trolling. You were asked to back a claim about proof. You did not. That is OK... you have a belief you cannot back. No attack. No insult. Not interested in yours. As far as proofs -- those are a part of math, not science. https://www.forbes.com/sites/startsw...h=3299dec72fb1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scient...ientific_proof Etc. Rod Speed snipped and ran. Whatever. Clearly he just wants the last word. He can have it. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. |
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On Tue, 08 Jun 2021 20:34:50 GMT, **** the git, the notorious,
troll-feeding, senile asshole, blathered again: I do not understand your need to get attention this way. Can you explain it? I understand that BOTH of you are trolling senile ****heads! |
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On Tue, 08 Jun 2021 20:35:36 GMT, **** the git, the notorious,
troll-feeding, senile asshole, blathered again: This is what I was asking for evidence of. Do you have any? Do you two egoistic senile ****heads have NO respect for the three ngs you keep trashing with your endless idiotic senile ****? |
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On Tue, 08 Jun 2021 20:36:18 GMT, **** the git, the notorious,
troll-feeding, senile asshole, blathered again: Rod Speed snipped and ran. Whatever. Clearly he just wants the last word. He can have it. Just keep your endless sick senile **** out of these groups, you brainless senile trolls! |
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On 2021-06-08, Rod Speed wrote:
"Snit" wrote in message ... On Jun 7, 2021 at 7:30:09 PM MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote : but I have found multiple sources saying 70% is what they think would do it. None that base that on any rigorous science. In the past I had seen 80-90%. Its even higher than that now with the new more virulent strains but not known with any certainty yet. I would not be surprised -- but do you have cites to back that? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_reproduction_number https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-...ants/100190414 Can you quote where they speak of the number of vaccinated people needed for herd immunity? Yep. https://www.jhsph.edu/covid-19/artic...h-covid19.html That doesnt say that it only needs to get to 70%. "What we know about coronavirus so far suggests that, Suggests isnt your original absolute. These comments are meant as best guesses, not absolutes. Easy to say after you have been picked up on your original claim. Easy to say for those of us who speak English. ![]() I have no issue with a clarification... but I have no desire for such games. Ditto. if we were really to go back to a pre-pandemic lifestyle, we would need at least 70% of the population At least isnt the same as your original. to be immune to keep the rate of infection down (€śachieve herd immunity€ť) without restrictions on activities." You ignored this part. No need to comment on that bit, it was what herd immunity is about. The part about herd immunity is key to the point about herd immunity. Try that again in english, even google translate doesnt do gobbledegook yet. New York close to 70% Even that isnt clear. https://www.usnews.com/news/best-sta...a-vaccine-dose That isnt saying that its close to 70%. Just one politician has made that claim without citing any scientific basis for making that claim. Do you have contrary data? You do not. OK. More mindless troll****, your trademark as that other pointed out accurately. Exactly. In a previous post you asked snit what he was looking for. Snit is looking to troll and suck people into his snit circus. Nothing more than that. Here is what happens when someone makes the mistake of engaging snit in a dialog. It is the end result almost 100 percent of the time. It comes from one of the links in my siggie. "36- George Graves: "Jason. You have started an argument with the Snit (AKA Michael Glasser), this should not be done. He will drive you crazy with his twisted logic, his deep-rooted need to be ALWAYS right at any cost. He will move goalposts, set up strawmen, and bore you into submission with his endless pedanticism. The only way to engage him is to hit and run. NEVER engage him, it's a futile, empty procedure that will only anger you and feed him. Take my advice and STAY AWAY!" 27 Oct 2004" -- pothead Tommy Chong For President 2024 Lifetime Member of "The Prescott Parasite Eradication Team" Ask snit how he ****ed on his cat. All about snit read below. Links courtesy of Ron: https://web.archive.org/web/20181028....com/snit.html https://web.archive.org/web/20190529.../snitlist.html https://web.archive.org/web/20190529...ieMethods.html |
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On 2021-06-08, Rod Speed wrote:
Snit wrote reams of your trademark troll**** you always end up with, all flushed where it belongs. Snit is running his "Fire Engine Troll" on you. Here it is: https://groups.google.com/g/comp.os....ic1PGw-5sXA/m/ eqRxD0a0AAAJ Quote Engaged---------------- "Snit is obviously flying high on drugs again because he is in Rainman Mode, but here is what will happen with all of his threads. Person: Doesn't that blade of grass over there look like it's red? Snit: Define red. Person: Red, you know, like a fire engine. Snit: Fire engines where I live are yellow. Person: Ok, red like blood. Snit: Blood isn't really red. Person: Sigh, ok, red like a red rose. Snit: What kind of rose? Person: I don't know, a ****ing red rose. Snit: Why are you getting vulgar with me? Person: Because you are an idiot. Snit: You attack me because you have nothing to say. Person: I've been trying to say something to you for two days now. You don't listen. Snit: Define something. Person: Are you some kind of asshole? Snit: Why are you attacking me. Person: I'm tired of playing your idiotic game. Snit: You ran away. I won. Person: dead silence. And this is how snit keeps his circus alive." Quote disengaged----------- -- pothead Tommy Chong For President 2024 Lifetime Member of "The Prescott Parasite Eradication Team" Ask snit how he ****ed on his cat. All about snit read below. Links courtesy of Ron: https://web.archive.org/web/20181028....com/snit.html https://web.archive.org/web/20190529.../snitlist.html https://web.archive.org/web/20190529...ieMethods.html |
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Snit wrote
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Snit wrote
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Snit wrote
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On Jun 8, 2021 at 5:26:03 PM MST, ""Rod Speed""
wrote: Snit wrote reams of your trademark troll**** you always end up with, all flushed where it belongs. If you really believed that you would have just given no response. ![]() |
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On Jun 8, 2021 at 1:34:50 PM MST, "Snit" wrote
: On Jun 8, 2021 at 1:34:13 PM MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote : Snit wrote reams of your trademark troll**** you always end up with, all flushed where it belongs. I do not understand your need to get attention this way. Can you explain it? You failed. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. |
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On Jun 8, 2021 at 1:35:36 PM MST, "Snit" wrote
: On Jun 8, 2021 at 1:32:30 PM MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote : "Snit" wrote in message ... On Jun 8, 2021 at 12:56:44 PM MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote : "Snit" wrote in message ... On Jun 7, 2021 at 7:34:58 PM MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote : Dunno, nothing useful on that with https://www.google.com/search?q=herd...ty+in+New+York Gotta link ? Did more looking into this. Need 70% to get to herd immunity: It is COVID fatigue causing compromises I think, 85 to 90 percent is better but 70 sounds more "doable" at this point in time. Not enough IMO. I have the same feeling -- but no evidence to back it. You do actually with the R0 of the new more virulent strains. This is what I was asking for evidence of. Do you have any? You did not. Thanks for sharing. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. |
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Snit wrote
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Snit wrote
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Snit wrote
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On Jun 8, 2021 at 8:27:53 PM MST, "Snit" wrote
: On Jun 8, 2021 at 1:35:36 PM MST, "Snit" wrote : On Jun 8, 2021 at 1:32:30 PM MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote : "Snit" wrote in message ... On Jun 8, 2021 at 12:56:44 PM MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote : "Snit" wrote in message ... On Jun 7, 2021 at 7:34:58 PM MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote : Dunno, nothing useful on that with https://www.google.com/search?q=herd...ty+in+New+York Gotta link ? Did more looking into this. Need 70% to get to herd immunity: It is COVID fatigue causing compromises I think, 85 to 90 percent is better but 70 sounds more "doable" at this point in time. Not enough IMO. I have the same feeling -- but no evidence to back it. You do actually with the R0 of the new more virulent strains. This is what I was asking for evidence of. Do you have any? You did not. Thanks for sharing. Not sure why you responded again. I get it... you want the last word even though you have nothing of value to add. Best wishes. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. |
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On Jun 8, 2021 at 8:26:50 PM MST, "Snit" wrote
: On Jun 8, 2021 at 1:34:50 PM MST, "Snit" wrote : On Jun 8, 2021 at 1:34:13 PM MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote : Snit wrote reams of your trademark troll**** you always end up with, all flushed where it belongs. I do not understand your need to get attention this way. Can you explain it? You failed. And you did so again as you sought the last word. Weird. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. |
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On Jun 8, 2021 at 8:08:35 PM MST, "Snit" wrote
: On Jun 8, 2021 at 5:26:03 PM MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote: Snit wrote reams of your trademark troll**** you always end up with, all flushed where it belongs. If you really believed that you would have just given no response. ![]() Then you gave the same response. ![]() -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. |
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Snit wrote
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Snit wrote
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Snit wrote
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On Wed, 9 Jun 2021 14:42:14 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: FLUSH the two senile pests usual endless idiotic senile **** Difficult -or rather impossible- to tell which of you two senile idiots is the more idiotic one! LOL -- Sqwertz to Rodent Speed: "This is just a hunch, but I'm betting you're kinda an argumentative asshole. MID: |
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On Wed, 9 Jun 2021 14:41:35 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: FLUSH all of the two debile senile pests' usual endless idiotic senile **** -- Richard addressing senile Rodent Speed: "**** you're thick/pathetic excuse for a troll." MID: |
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On Mon, 07 Jun 2021 19:05:10 +0100, Rod Speed wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote Doesn't giving a coronavirus vaccine to everyone increase the chances of the virus mutating to avoid the vaccine? Nope, it's the reverse of that, the virus can only mutate in infected people and so the fewer that get infected, the less the chance of it mutating. I doubt we know how the virus thinks. So we should be using it sparingly. Nope, we should be vaccinating as many as possible with the best vaccines to reduce the number who get infected. Just let some weak folk die off, the world is too full. |
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On Mon, 07 Jun 2021 20:22:36 +0100, Snit wrote:
On Jun 7, 2021 at 11:05:10 AM MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote : Commander Kinsey wrote Doesn't giving a coronavirus vaccine to everyone increase the chances of the virus mutating to avoid the vaccine? Nope, it's the reverse of that, the virus can only mutate in infected people and so the fewer that get infected, the less the chance of it mutating. Exactly! So we should be using it sparingly. Nope, we should be vaccinating as many as possible with the best vaccines to reduce the number who get infected. Yup. And they are nearing what they think is herd immunity in New York. Amazing. Amazingly pointless. |
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On Mon, 07 Jun 2021 21:02:07 +0100, Snit wrote:
Rod Speed wrote: Snit wrote Rod Speed wrote Commander Kinsey wrote Doesn't giving a coronavirus vaccine to everyone increase the chances of the virus mutating to avoid the vaccine? Nope, it's the reverse of that, the virus can only mutate in infected people and so the fewer that get infected, the less the chance of it mutating. Exactly! So we should be using it sparingly. Nope, we should be vaccinating as many as possible with the best vaccines to reduce the number who get infected. Yup. And they are nearing what they think is herd immunity in New York. Amazing. Dunno, nothing useful on that with https://www.google.com/search?q=herd...ty+in+New+York Gotta link ? See in the news they will be lifting restrictions. The current threshold for herd immunity is 70%. They are just about there. Heard it from the wife of a doctor doing research in New York €” but it might not be official. What restrictions? I've been going about my life as normal. |
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On Tue, 08 Jun 2021 00:35:26 +0100, Snit wrote:
On Jun 7, 2021 at 4:24:07 PM MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote : Snit wrote Rod Speed wrote Snit wrote Rod Speed wrote Commander Kinsey wrote Doesn't giving a coronavirus vaccine to everyone increase the chances of the virus mutating to avoid the vaccine? Nope, it's the reverse of that, the virus can only mutate in infected people and so the fewer that get infected, the less the chance of it mutating. Exactly! So we should be using it sparingly. Nope, we should be vaccinating as many as possible with the best vaccines to reduce the number who get infected. Yup. And they are nearing what they think is herd immunity in New York. Amazing. Dunno, nothing useful on that with https://www.google.com/search?q=herd...ty+in+New+York Gotta link ? Did more looking into this. Need 70% to get to herd immunity: Its nothing like that simple now with the new more virulent strains. That is what I thought, but I have found multiple sources saying 70% is what they think would do it. In the past I had seen 80-90%. https://www.jhsph.edu/covid-19/artic...h-covid19.html That doesnt say that it only needs to get to 70%. "What we know about coronavirus so far suggests that, if we were really to go back to a pre-pandemic lifestyle, we would need at least 70% of the population to be immune to keep the rate of infection down (€śachieve herd immunity€ť) without restrictions on activities." Most people who are likely to get it will have already had it (and most likely not had any symptoms). Just let people get back to normal, there won't be many more cases. |
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On Tue, 08 Jun 2021 21:34:50 +0100, Snit wrote:
On Jun 8, 2021 at 1:34:13 PM MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote : Snit wrote reams of your trademark troll**** you always end up with, all flushed where it belongs. I do not understand your need to get attention this way. Can you explain it? I think it's just him getting tired of you going on and on. |
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On Tue, 08 Jun 2021 22:35:54 +0100, pothead wrote:
On 2021-06-08, Rod Speed wrote: Snit wrote reams of your trademark troll**** you always end up with, all flushed where it belongs. Snit is running his "Fire Engine Troll" on you. Here it is: https://groups.google.com/g/comp.os....ic1PGw-5sXA/m/ eqRxD0a0AAAJ Quote Engaged---------------- "Snit is obviously flying high on drugs again because he is in Rainman Mode, but here is what will happen with all of his threads. Person: Doesn't that blade of grass over there look like it's red? Snit: Define red. Person: Red, you know, like a fire engine. Snit: Fire engines where I live are yellow. Person: Ok, red like blood. Snit: Blood isn't really red. Person: Sigh, ok, red like a red rose. Snit: What kind of rose? Person: I don't know, a ****ing red rose. Snit: Why are you getting vulgar with me? Person: Because you are an idiot. Snit: You attack me because you have nothing to say. Person: I've been trying to say something to you for two days now. You don't listen. Snit: Define something. Person: Are you some kind of asshole? Snit: Why are you attacking me. Person: I'm tired of playing your idiotic game. Snit: You ran away. I won. Person: dead silence. And this is how snit keeps his circus alive." Quote disengaged----------- ROTFPMSL! A very good description of Snit, or indeed any weirdo with OCD. |
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On Mon, 07 Jun 2021 19:08:49 +0100, Rod Speed wrote:
"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message news ![]() On Mon, 07 Jun 2021 18:12:19 +0100, wrote: On Monday, June 7, 2021 at 12:20:53 PM UTC-4, Commander Kinsey wrote: Doesn't giving a coronavirus vaccine to everyone increase the chances of the virus mutating to avoid the vaccine? So we should be using it sparingly. Microorganisms don't mutate to "avoid" anything. It's an undirected process whereby anything that survives (whether it's antibodies produced by a vaccine or an antibacterial such as penicillin) is resistant. Anything that wasn't resistant is dead. I've read that this virus is intelligent, like a motorist spotting a speedtrap and driving on a different route. Reality is nothing like that. Viruses cant do that. So we think now. But we're always discovering new things about nature. |
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On Mon, 07 Jun 2021 20:48:07 +0100, FromTheRafters wrote:
Commander Kinsey formulated on Monday : Doesn't giving a coronavirus vaccine to everyone increase the chances of the virus mutating to avoid the vaccine? So we should be using it sparingly. Good point actually. I questioned this earlier as I was thinking about in the USA we have basically three vaccines. We have heard about bacteria being resistant due to overuse of antibacterials and antibiotics. This is a little different. The greatest threat is in the unvaccinated population who continue to harbor the virus, there will always be some for one reason or another. The bigger the host population the more the viruses environment shapes the newer generations. Resistance can build. The other point is, vaccinated people can still host the virus and spread it to others, they are just less likely to get the serious disease outcome than the unvaccinated. This is no magic bullet, it is just another common-sense weapon in the battle against the virus. If the vaccine doesn't stop you catching it and passing it on, it's ****ing absolutely pointless! It's not going to slow down the passing of the virus whatsoever. Yet another waste of government money. |
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On Tue, 08 Jun 2021 00:09:44 +0100, Snit wrote:
On Jun 7, 2021 at 3:08:12 PM MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote : "Snit" wrote in message ... FromTheRafters wrote: Commander Kinsey formulated on Monday : Doesn't giving a coronavirus vaccine to everyone increase the chances of the virus mutating to avoid the vaccine? So we should be using it sparingly. Good point actually. I questioned this earlier as I was thinking about in the USA we have basically three vaccines. We have heard about bacteria being resistant due to overuse of antibacterials and antibiotics. This is a little different. The greatest threat is in the unvaccinated population who continue to harbor the virus, there will always be some for one reason or another. The bigger the host population the more the viruses environment shapes the newer generations. Resistance can build. The other point is, vaccinated people can still host the virus and spread it to others, they are just less likely to get the serious disease outcome than the unvaccinated. This is no magic bullet, it is just another common-sense weapon in the battle against the virus. The good news is the vaccines seem to work better than first anticipated in terms of preventing the disease at all. Not just seems to, has been proven to do that now. I could quibble over semantics and scientific terms You always do. |
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On Mon, 07 Jun 2021 18:34:11 +0100, Richard wrote:
On 07/06/2021 18:22, Commander Kinsey wrote: On Mon, 07 Jun 2021 18:12:19 +0100, wrote: On Monday, June 7, 2021 at 12:20:53 PM UTC-4, Commander Kinsey wrote: Doesn't giving a coronavirus vaccine to everyone increase the chances of the virus mutating to avoid the vaccine? So we should be using it sparingly. Microorganisms don't mutate to "avoid" anything. It's an undirected process whereby anything that survives (whether it's antibodies produced by a vaccine or an antibacterial such as penicillin) is resistant. Anything that wasn't resistant is dead. I've read that this virus is intelligent, like a motorist spotting a speedtrap and driving on a different route. Compared to you, it is intelligent. I'm not the sheep running off to get vaccinated against something you probably won't get, probably are naturally immune to, and probably won't kill you if you do get symptoms. |
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On Mon, 07 Jun 2021 18:55:27 +0100, Chris Bacon wrote:
On 07/06/2021 18:34, Richard wrote: On 07/06/2021 18:22, Commander Kinsey wrote: I've read that this virus is intelligent, like a motorist spotting a speedtrap and driving on a different route. Compared to you, it is intelligent. Does this person ever post anything DIY related, or am I safe to plonk the "rissole"? Perhaps someone will post the contents of their killfile, so I can copy it. That would be helpful. It used to be that uk.d-i-y was not a general chat group populated by such a proportion of wanackers (name deprecated though). Learn what the prefix OT means and filter that. |
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On Tue, 08 Jun 2021 09:04:32 +0100, Chris Bacon wrote:
On 08/06/2021 05:49, Richard wrote: On 07/06/2021 23:03, Chris Bacon wrote: I'd still like o see a good killfile config. Irony - complains about non-DIY posts, has to ask other people to make up his mind and can't do his own killfile. Fancy re-inventing the wheel, Richard? I don't. It's hardly rocket science. |
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On Tue, 08 Jun 2021 08:00:49 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:
Chris Bacon wrote: I'd still like o see a good killfile config. Everyone having a single killfile is like having a single vaccine, it makes it easier for the troll/vaccine to mutate ... That is actually true. Ask Rod Speed. |
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On Tue, 08 Jun 2021 11:35:04 +0100, John Rumm wrote:
On 07/06/2021 18:55, Chris Bacon wrote: On 07/06/2021 18:34, Richard wrote: On 07/06/2021 18:22, Commander Kinsey wrote: I've read that this virus is intelligent, like a motorist spotting a speedtrap and driving on a different route. Compared to you, it is intelligent. Does this person ever post anything DIY related, What PHUCKER? There was a time that was his preferred method of trolling - ask a DIY related question, wait for the answers, then spend ages arguing with the answers! It was like trolling, but I think he missed the art of standing back and lettings the flame wars run themselves! No trolling, just a different opinion to the unwashed masses. |
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On Wed, 9 Jun 2021 13:48:37 -0400, Ralph Mowery, another brain dead,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blathered: Just let some weak folk die off, the world is too full. Good way to help out the social security defect. Just got rid of close to a million that are receiving it or were about to. The unemployable, clinically insane trolling ****** you are feeding IS one of those defective useless social misfits who keep living off government subsidies (and he BRAGGED about it), you troll-feeding senile asshole! |
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