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Football as we used to know it was a local community matter. Let's bring it back home!
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/583310
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On 27/04/2021 21:06, Bazza wrote:
Football as we used to know it was a local community matter. Let's bring it back home!
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/583310


Has this been thought through?

Having at least 51% fan ownership is trivial, where one foreign owner
can provide 100% fan ownership.
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Football as we used to know it was a local community matter. Let's bring it back home


The reason football isn't a local community matter any more is because pitches and
changing rooms which used to be provided by local authorities for the numerous local
leagues were found to be uneconomical to run. And so were all shut down Same as
the sale of school playing fields.

As to the 0.001% of football played by the 6 or so top clubs, nowadays often
featuring foreign players earning millions of pounds per year these have
*never* been a local community matter. Their wages nowadays are paid by
TV, generated by screening matches worldwide. If you want community
football then support local teams in the lower leagues. Unless you're
claiming every football supporter lives in Manchester Liverpool or
London

As to the top clubs while many started as church or works teams as soon as they
joined professional leagues stadiums were required which required large scale
investment from businessman hoping to make a profit.

Two of the clubs still signed up for this "uncompetitive greedy ESL" are Barcelona
and Real Madrid. Both of which are owned by their supporters. The reason they
support the ESL is because in the absence of a sugar daddy, both are in danger
of going bust.

As to all the demonstrations, the spoiled supporters of the top six clubs are always
blaming the owners if they lose more than three matches on the trot. Pathetic isn't
too strong a word for them.


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Football as we used to know it was a local community matter. Let's bring
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https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/583310



I have never willingly watched football, seems silly like bat and ball.
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On Tue, 27 Apr 2021 13:06:48 -0700, Bazza wrote:

Football as we used to know it was a local community matter. Let's bring
it back home!
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/583310



I have never willingly watched football, seems silly like bat and ball.


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On 28/04/2021 08:35, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
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On Tue, 27 Apr 2021 13:06:48 -0700, Bazza wrote:

Football as we used to know it was a local community matter. Let's bring
it back home!
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/583310



I have never willingly watched football, seems silly like bat and ball.


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I really cannot see the entertainment value in watching a white spot
bounceabout on a green TV screen for 90 minutes.....

I actually find watching paint drying far more interesting!
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On Tue, 27 Apr 2021 13:06:48 -0700, Bazza wrote:

Football as we used to know it was a local community matter. Let's bring
it back home!
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/583310



I have never willingly watched football, seems silly like bat and ball.


Me too. Although I can admire the skills shown during TV highlights.
Supporters? Some basic human instinct/need not ideal for the world
where sharing resources so important.

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Football as we used to know it was a local community matter. Let's bring it back home!
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/583310


Can we get it off national TV, then? Back to subscription TV where it
belongs? So only the fans pay the vastly inflated salaries?

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On Tue, 27 Apr 2021 13:06:48 -0700, Bazza wrote:

Football as we used to know it was a local community matter. Let's bring
it back home!
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/583310



I have never willingly watched football, seems silly like bat and ball.

I've tried all sports as spectator sports. As spectacles, they are all
pretty dire. Only if you actually know something about the strategy,
tactics or technology is there any interest.

Sadly there seems to be no technology or strategy in football, and very
few tactics.

Cricket is massively strategic. Rugby is massively tactical. Motor
racing is massively technological.

Sailing is tactics and a little technology.

Snooker is all tactics, given the skill.

These are all things I can bear to watch.

Athletics - well its mostly pure skill, and having the right body to
start with. Yawn. I'd rather watch hot chicks on a catwalk.

If you want a spectacle, go to an airshow.


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The aim is to get it discussed and to have the current system changed to stop money being "exported" and fans being exploited.

What has happened over the last 20 years is that big clubs get taken over by foreign "investors" who heap debt on to the books after they extract squillions in dividend. The club then has to service that debt.

The German model of 51% fan ownership means this exploitation does not happen. The retained earnings are invested in better facilities, training and development. On Germany ticket prices are less than £20. Over here the fans get ripped off for £95 a go. Then there's the shirts - they are uip to £95 each and they change them every year at least one for both home and away strips.

Now ask yourself which is the most successful team in Europe over the last 10 years - it's one from Munich.

In terms of "Community", ownership by fans would probably see money trickle down to smaller teams to fund better facilities and training.
Legislation could also be put in place to have clubs support the wider local community. THat way the money goes around locally, rather than go to the likes of the Glazers, Fenway Sports, Stan Kroenke and Abramobitch



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on 28/04/2021, Dave Plowman (News) supposed :
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Bazza wrote:
Football as we used to know it was a local community matter. Let's bring it
back home! https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/583310


Can we get it off national TV, then? Back to subscription TV where it
belongs? So only the fans pay the vastly inflated salaries?


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