I've had to replace the Rover battery. It's an 069 70 amp hour and weighs
approx 28kg.

Living where I do, I'll have to travel some distance to find a scrap yard.
So can anyone give a rough idea of what the old is worth as scrap? I've
seen about 60p a kg quoted for scrap lead, but not sure how that
translates to batteries.

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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:
I've had to replace the Rover battery. It's an 069 70 amp hour and weighs
approx 28kg.

Living where I do, I'll have to travel some distance to find a scrap yard.
So can anyone give a rough idea of what the old is worth as scrap? I've
seen about 60p a kg quoted for scrap lead, but not sure how that
translates to batteries.

Our local scrap car/metal merchant pays close to 50p/kg for batteries,
that is they just weigh the batteries on their scales and pay
accordingly.

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In article ,
Chris Green wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:
I've had to replace the Rover battery. It's an 069 70 amp hour and weighs
approx 28kg.

Living where I do, I'll have to travel some distance to find a scrap yard.
So can anyone give a rough idea of what the old is worth as scrap? I've
seen about 60p a kg quoted for scrap lead, but not sure how that
translates to batteries.

Our local scrap car/metal merchant pays close to 50p/kg for batteries,
that is they just weigh the batteries on their scales and pay
accordingly.

Thanks. Just what I wanted to know.

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On Saturday, 3 April 2021 at 13:03:06 UTC+1, Chris Green wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:

So can anyone give a rough idea of what the old is worth as scrap? I've
seen about 60p a kg quoted for scrap lead, but not sure how that
translates to batteries.

Our local scrap car/metal merchant pays close to 50p/kg for batteries,
that is they just weigh the batteries on their scales and pay
accordingly.

I've been wondering the same thing myself, having accrued a sizeable collection of old car and motorcycle batteries, not to mention a fair amount of old lead piping and electrical wiring... however - I also wondered if it worthwhile/cost-effective first attacking the batteries with drill/hosepipe/hacksaw/anglegrinder etc in order to (safely) extract the lead, so as to present that to the scrappy rather than the batteries?

On 06/04/2021 18:33, Lobster wrote:
On Saturday, 3 April 2021 at 13:03:06 UTC+1, Chris Green wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:

So can anyone give a rough idea of what the old is worth as scrap? I've
seen about 60p a kg quoted for scrap lead, but not sure how that
translates to batteries.

Our local scrap car/metal merchant pays close to 50p/kg for batteries,
that is they just weigh the batteries on their scales and pay
accordingly.

I've been wondering the same thing myself, having accrued a sizeable collection of old car and motorcycle batteries, not to mention a fair amount of old lead piping and electrical wiring... however - I also wondered if it worthwhile/cost-effective first attacking the batteries with drill/hosepipe/hacksaw/anglegrinder etc in order to (safely) extract the lead, so as to present that to the scrappy rather than the batteries?

More trouble than it is worth IMHO. I also (slightly) rob myself by
draining the acid and rinsing out the cells with water, and emptying
them. Remember that your strategy will also lose the sludge at the
bottom of the cells and maybe from the plates themselves, which will
contain a certain amount of lead as sulphate and oxides.

On 03/04/2021 12:32, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
I've had to replace the Rover battery. It's an 069 70 amp hour and weighs
approx 28kg.

Living where I do, I'll have to travel some distance to find a scrap yard.
So can anyone give a rough idea of what the old is worth as scrap? I've
seen about 60p a kg quoted for scrap lead, but not sure how that
translates to batteries.

I've no idea about thr value, but when you factor in fuel for making a
trip and your time, it may be worth just hanging onto it until you are
next going to your council recycling centre and just giving it to them.
That's what I did with the last two (admittedly smaller) batteries.

On Sat, 3 Apr 2021 13:08:56 +0100, Steve Walker
wrote:

On 03/04/2021 12:32, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
I've had to replace the Rover battery. It's an 069 70 amp hour and weighs
approx 28kg.

Living where I do, I'll have to travel some distance to find a scrap yard.
So can anyone give a rough idea of what the old is worth as scrap? I've
seen about 60p a kg quoted for scrap lead, but not sure how that
translates to batteries.

I've no idea about thr value, but when you factor in fuel for making a
trip and your time,

The last time I took a car full of stuff (inc probably 10 batteries)
I got nearly £100 and being retired and the scrap yard probably only 1
mile away, very much 'worth my time'. ;-)

it may be worth just hanging onto it until you are
next going to your council recycling centre and just giving it to them.

For me that would be a longer drive and without the fiscal incentive.
;-)

That's what I did with the last two (admittedly smaller) batteries.

Put them on your property boundary with a 'Take me' note and they will
probably be gone by the morning (saving you a trip)?

I've had what I thought was a reasonably well obscured battery lifted
off my front drive and caught another red handed not long after
(likely the same person).

A loud 'OY!' was enough to get his attention and the suggestion that
he might put it back pronto ... it being theft and he was on CCTV ...
was enough for him to do so (with a sheepish 'sorry mate'). I just
happened to be out the front but a few doors along. ;-)

You can generally determine when the prices are up on such things when
they are taken like that.

Cheers, T i m

On 2021-04-03 13:37:23 +0000, T i m said:

Put them on your property boundary with a 'Take me' note and they will
probably be gone by the morning (saving you a trip)?

I left a car battery in our front garden the other day - about an hour
later my wife saw someone making off with it. Round our way leaving
anything out front is a sure fire way to recycle.

On 03/04/2021 18:14, John Smith wrote:
On 2021-04-03 13:37:23 +0000, T i m said:

Put them on your property boundary with a 'Take me' note and they will
probably be gone by the morning (saving you a trip)?

I left a car battery in our front garden the other day - about an hour
later my wife saw someone making off with it. Round our way leaving
anything out front is a sure fire way to recycle.

For both of the two that I got rid off, they sat for a month or more
outside the front door until I got round to a tip run.

On 2021-04-03 19:16:13 +0000, Steve Walker said:

On 03/04/2021 18:14, John Smith wrote:
On 2021-04-03 13:37:23 +0000, T i m said:

Put them on your property boundary with a 'Take me' note and they will
probably be gone by the morning (saving you a trip)?

I left a car battery in our front garden the other day - about an hour
later my wife saw someone making off with it. Round our way leaving
anything out front is a sure fire way to recycle.

For both of the two that I got rid off, they sat for a month or more
outside the front door until I got round to a tip run.

I live in Hackney. There are people walking and driving by all the time
looking for stuff, like modern day rag and bone men (and they are all
men).

Funniest thing is an armchair we put outside, which swiftly
disappeared. Next weekend the kids and I went to Brick Lane market and
the kids spotted the armchair and started playing on it. The bloke then
tried to sell it to me for £50.

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Steve Walker wrote:
On 03/04/2021 18:14, John Smith wrote:
On 2021-04-03 13:37:23 +0000, T i m said:

Put them on your property boundary with a 'Take me' note and they will
probably be gone by the morning (saving you a trip)?

I left a car battery in our front garden the other day - about an hour
later my wife saw someone making off with it. Round our way leaving
anything out front is a sure fire way to recycle.

For both of the two that I got rid off, they sat for a month or more
outside the front door until I got round to a tip run.

I moaned bitterly about some stuff being delivered on a pallet which they
wouldn't take away with them. Thinking I'd have to break it up and take to
the tip. Being wet, I left it in the (small) front garden. Gone the next
day.

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On 2021-04-03 13:37:23 +0000, T i m said:

Put them on your property boundary with a 'Take me' note and they will
probably be gone by the morning (saving you a trip)?

I left a car battery in our front garden the other day - about an hour
later my wife saw someone making off with it. Round our way leaving
anything out front is a sure fire way to recycle.




Sorry - I think it is very irresponsible:

Others take your lead and all sorts of stuff appear on the front making the
area look a mess.

Those who take it will fly tip the unwanted parts.

They will contaminate land with fluids.

It encourages undesirables to keep driving past looking for stuff..

JohnP wrote:

John Smith wrote in news:2021040318145743662-
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On 2021-04-03 13:37:23 +0000, T i m said:

Put them on your property boundary with a 'Take me' note and they will
probably be gone by the morning (saving you a trip)?

I left a car battery in our front garden the other day - about an hour
later my wife saw someone making off with it. Round our way leaving
anything out front is a sure fire way to recycle.

Sorry - I think it is very irresponsible:

Others take your lead and all sorts of stuff appear on the front making the
area look a mess.

Those who take it will fly tip the unwanted parts.

They will contaminate land with fluids.

It encourages undesirables to keep driving past looking for stuff..

Scrap dealers with small trucks drive round here regularly.
Nowadays, If I have metal odds and ends to get rid of, I just
leave them on the lawn, and within 24 hours they are gone.

Yes, from time to time others do the same, sometimes with scrap,
others with stuff that some might find useful. No way could it be
considered detrimental to the appearance of the area.

A few years ago when I actually paid the council to have a
fridge-freezer removed, it was one of those very trucks (complete
with documentation - I checked) who collected it.

Chris
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On 03/04/2021 14:37, T i m wrote:


The last time I took a car full of stuff (inc probably 10 batteries)
I got nearly £100 and being retired and the scrap yard probably only 1
mile away, very much 'worth my time'. ;-)


Similarly (even at 7 miles), I'd been collecting for ten years or so. (A
couple came from neighbours, also I re-use old batteries for horse
electric fencing but they die eventually).

Got a few quid for ironwork too, a bit more for copper, but mostly from
the batteries.

On Sun, 4 Apr 2021 11:43:29 +0100, newshound
wrote:

On 03/04/2021 14:37, T i m wrote:


The last time I took a car full of stuff (inc probably 10 batteries)
I got nearly £100 and being retired and the scrap yard probably only 1
mile away, very much 'worth my time'. ;-)


Similarly (even at 7 miles), I'd been collecting for ten years or so. (A
couple came from neighbours, also I re-use old batteries for horse
electric fencing but they die eventually).

And you have also eeked out the time before they need to be recycled
(a good thing).

Got a few quid for ironwork too, a bit more for copper, but mostly from
the batteries.

Yeah, 'mixed light iron' isn't normally worth much so you need quite a
bit in one load to make it even cover the fuel cost. Ally is similar
but because being light, you still need a fair load to get anywhere.

Copper / brass has always been good and it pains me to see plumbers
and sparkies running large quantities of obviously brand new gear in,
often as a way of nicking cash out of a job at other peoples expense.

Not the same as a plumber taking away an old boiler, cylinder or old
imperial fittings and covering his expenses etc.

Cheers, T i m

On 04/04/2021 12:52, T i m wrote:
Ally is similar
but because being light, you still need a fair load to get anywhere.

Aluminium is the same weight per kilo as copper or brass.

Bill

In article ,
Steve Walker wrote:
On 03/04/2021 12:32, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
I've had to replace the Rover battery. It's an 069 70 amp hour and weighs
approx 28kg.

Living where I do, I'll have to travel some distance to find a scrap yard.
So can anyone give a rough idea of what the old is worth as scrap? I've
seen about 60p a kg quoted for scrap lead, but not sure how that
translates to batteries.

I've no idea about thr value, but when you factor in fuel for making a
trip and your time, it may be worth just hanging onto it until you are
next going to your council recycling centre and just giving it to them.
That's what I did with the last two (admittedly smaller) batteries.

I've actually got more than one. As has a pal who lives nearby. So taking
them all in one go should be worth it. I'll make sure I increase the
pressure in the rear tyres. ;-)

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On 03/04/2021 12:32, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
I've had to replace the Rover battery. It's an 069 70 amp hour and weighs
approx 28kg.

Living where I do, I'll have to travel some distance to find a scrap yard.
So can anyone give a rough idea of what the old is worth as scrap? I've
seen about 60p a kg quoted for scrap lead, but not sure how that
translates to batteries.

Don't scrap it, fix it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l665eovBlEk

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Clive Arthur wrote:
On 03/04/2021 12:32, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
I've had to replace the Rover battery. It's an 069 70 amp hour and weighs
approx 28kg.

Living where I do, I'll have to travel some distance to find a scrap yard.
So can anyone give a rough idea of what the old is worth as scrap? I've
seen about 60p a kg quoted for scrap lead, but not sure how that
translates to batteries.

Don't scrap it, fix it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l665eovBlEk

Think I'd rather get my lead from petrol. ;-)

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On 03/04/2021 14:00, Clive Arthur wrote:
On 03/04/2021 12:32, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
I've had to replace the Rover battery. It's an 069 70 amp hour and weighs
approx 28kg.

Living where I do, I'll have to travel some distance to find a scrap
yard.
So can anyone give a rough idea of what the old is worth as scrap? I've
seen about 60p a kg quoted for scrap lead, but not sure how that
translates to batteries.

Don't scrap it, fix it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l665eovBlEk


That *could* be done safely in a fume hood ...

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In article ,
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
I've had to replace the Rover battery. It's an 069 70 amp hour and weighs
approx 28kg.

Living where I do, I'll have to travel some distance to find a scrap yard.
So can anyone give a rough idea of what the old is worth as scrap? I've
seen about 60p a kg quoted for scrap lead, but not sure how that
translates to batteries.

they aren't scrap yards any more. they need to be licenced and conduct
their business legally. Can't give you cash anymore. Nearest on to be is
called "Guildford Metal Exchange"

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On Sat, 03 Apr 2021 14:08:55 +0100, charles
wrote:

In article ,
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
I've had to replace the Rover battery. It's an 069 70 amp hour and weighs
approx 28kg.

Living where I do, I'll have to travel some distance to find a scrap yard.
So can anyone give a rough idea of what the old is worth as scrap? I've
seen about 60p a kg quoted for scrap lead, but not sure how that
translates to batteries.

they aren't scrap yards any more.

I think ours is called a 'Metals recycling centre'.

they need to be licenced and conduct
their business legally.

I would think most are now days?

Can't give you cash anymore.

I'm perfectly happy with that and the funds are normally in my account
before we get home (1 mile).

Nearest on to be is
called "Guildford Metal Exchange"

Sounds posh. ;-)

We also have a PCB recycling centre fairly close and to my surprise, a
small box of old motherboards and other PCBs earned me a cheque for
£26. ;-)

Cheers, T i m

On 03/04/2021 14:08, charles wrote:

snip

they aren't scrap yards any more. they need to be licenced and conduct
their business legally. Can't give you cash anymore. Nearest on to be is
called "Guildford Metal Exchange"


while cash sales are banned there is no law against offering a cheque
cashing service on the same premises

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Robin wrote:
On 03/04/2021 14:08, charles wrote:

snip

they aren't scrap yards any more. they need to be licenced and conduct
their business legally. Can't give you cash anymore. Nearest on to be is
called "Guildford Metal Exchange"


while cash sales are banned there is no law against offering a cheque
cashing service on the same premises

GME would only pay into my bank account- and they neeeded proof of that
account being mine,

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On 03/04/2021 15:44, Robin wrote:
On 03/04/2021 14:08, charles wrote:

snip

they aren't scrap yards any more. they need to be licenced and conduct
their business legally. Can't give you cash anymore. Nearest on to be is
called "Guildford Metal Exchange"


while cash sales are banned there is no law against offering a cheque
cashing service on the same premises


For a 10% charge.

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On 03/04/2021 15:44, Robin wrote:
On 03/04/2021 14:08, charles wrote:

snip

they aren't scrap yards any more. they need to be licenced and conduct
their business legally. Can't give you cash anymore. Nearest on to be is
called "Guildford Metal Exchange"


while cash sales are banned there is no law against offering a cheque
cashing service on the same premises

I thought it had to be seen to go into an account?

On 04/04/2021 15:53, Fredxx wrote:
On 03/04/2021 15:44, Robin wrote:
On 03/04/2021 14:08, charles wrote:

snip

they aren't scrap yards any more. they need to be licenced and conduct
their business legally. Can't give you cash anymore. Nearest on to be is
called "Guildford Metal Exchange"


while cash sales are banned there is no law against offering a cheque
cashing service on the same premises

I thought it had to be seen to go into an account?



The legislation explicitly permits non-transferable cheque or electronic
transfer.

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In article ,
Fredxx wrote:
On 03/04/2021 15:44, Robin wrote:
On 03/04/2021 14:08, charles wrote:

snip

they aren't scrap yards any more. they need to be licenced and conduct
their business legally. Can't give you cash anymore. Nearest on to be is
called "Guildford Metal Exchange"


while cash sales are banned there is no law against offering a cheque
cashing service on the same premises

I thought it had to be seen to go into an account?

That would seem to be the common way.

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Fredxx wrote:

Robin wrote:

while cash sales are banned there is no law against offering a cheque
cashing service on the same premises

I thought it had to be seen to go into an account?

Last time I weighed some metal in, they did insist payment had to be a
tranfer into a bank account, but they didn't insist on seeing photo ID
which I think they should have?

On 03/04/2021 14:08, charles wrote:
In article ,
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
I've had to replace the Rover battery. It's an 069 70 amp hour and weighs
approx 28kg.

Living where I do, I'll have to travel some distance to find a scrap yard.
So can anyone give a rough idea of what the old is worth as scrap? I've
seen about 60p a kg quoted for scrap lead, but not sure how that
translates to batteries.

they aren't scrap yards any more. they need to be licenced and conduct
their business legally. Can't give you cash anymore. Nearest on to be is
called "Guildford Metal Exchange"


But some of them are happy to take the contents of stolen catalytic
converters without asking too many questions though.

On 03/04/2021 15:58, Andrew wrote:
On 03/04/2021 14:08, charles wrote:

they aren't scrap yards any more. they need to be licenced and conduct
their business legally. Can't give you cash anymore. Nearest on to be is
called "Guildford Metal Exchange"


But some of them are happy to take the contents of stolen catalytic
converters without asking too many questions though.

And presumably same with fridge / freezer compressors?

When a household dumps a fridge outside on the pavement, hardly a day
passes by, before someone has arrived, extracted the motor and driven
off - leaving nothing but the fridge and a small cloud of refrigerant
gas ...

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On 03/04/2021 14:08, charles wrote:

they aren't scrap yards any more. they need to be licenced and conduct
their business legally.

That's why there are no more metal thefts these days!


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On Sat, 03 Apr 2021 12:32:56 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

I've had to replace the Rover battery. It's an 069 70 amp hour and
weighs approx 28kg.

Living where I do, I'll have to travel some distance to find a scrap
yard.
So can anyone give a rough idea of what the old is worth as scrap? I've
seen about 60p a kg quoted for scrap lead, but not sure how that
translates to batteries.

Current wholesale price is 47p/kg.
https://www.letsrecycle.com/prices/m...al-prices/non-
ferrous-metal-prices-2021/

Sounds like a very heavy battery.
Brian

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I've had to replace the Rover battery. It's an 069 70 amp hour and weighs
approx 28kg.

Living where I do, I'll have to travel some distance to find a scrap yard.
So can anyone give a rough idea of what the old is worth as scrap? I've
seen about 60p a kg quoted for scrap lead, but not sure how that
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