The big drawback to this sort of group is that you can't post a picture.
I know you can put it on Dropbox or wherever but that's a faff. On
Facebook or Whatsapp all I have to do to post a picture is
Click on camera and take the picture
Click on the Snipping Tool and go 'edit-copy'
Click on my message and go 'paste'.

I think this medium is outdated.

Bill

williamwright wrote:
The big drawback to this sort of group is that you can't post a picture.
I know you can put it on Dropbox or wherever but that's a faff. On
Facebook or Whatsapp all I have to do to post a picture is
Click on camera and take the picture
Click on the Snipping Tool and go 'edit-copy'
Click on my message and go 'paste'.

I think this medium is outdated.

Or €œclassic€�.

Theres always Homeownershub... ;-)


Tim


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On 13/03/2021 16:41, williamwright wrote:
The big drawback to this sort of group is that you can't post a picture.
I know you can put it on Dropbox or wherever but that's a faff. On
Facebook or Whatsapp all I have to do to post a picture is
Click on camera and take the picture
Click on the Snipping Tool and go 'edit-copy'
Click on my message and go 'paste'.

I think this medium is outdated.

Bill
better than any other type of forum ...

On Sat, 13 Mar 2021 16:41:48 +0000, williamwright
wrote:

The big drawback to this sort of group is that you can't post a picture.
I know you can put it on Dropbox or wherever but that's a faff. On
Facebook or Whatsapp all I have to do to post a picture is
Click on camera and take the picture
Click on the Snipping Tool and go 'edit-copy'
Click on my message and go 'paste'.

I think this medium is outdated.


Nope, this is just a non binaries (news)group so maybe it's you who is
out of touch Bill? ;-)

eg, 'The medium' is more than capable of carrying pictures, videos and
executables.

Cheers, T i m

Tim Streater wrote:
On 13 Mar 2021 at 16:41:48 GMT, williamwright wrote:

The big drawback to this sort of group is that you can't post a picture.
I know you can put it on Dropbox or wherever but that's a faff. On
Facebook or Whatsapp all I have to do to post a picture is
Click on camera and take the picture
Click on the Snipping Tool and go 'edit-copy'
Click on my message and go 'paste'.

After which FB etc can sell your pic to anyone they choose.

I dont think they can. You *have* to give FB permission to share your
pictures (otherwise Facebook simply wouldnt work) but the ownership
remains yours. https://fossbytes.com/do-i-own-my-facebook-photos/


We're tending to use Signal rather than Whatsapp these days as it's not owned
by any of the big boys AFAIK.


Hardly a substitute for USENET though...

Tim


--
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williamwright wrote

The big drawback to this sort of group is that you can't post a picture.
I know you can put it on Dropbox or wherever but that's a faff.

Not really.

On Facebook or Whatsapp all I have to do to post a picture is
Click on camera and take the picture
Click on the Snipping Tool and go 'edit-copy'
Click on my message and go 'paste'.

All you have to do to get the picture on here is
use the camera on the phone and take the picture.
Share it to dropbox on the phone.
Get the link from your dropbox on the PC
Paste it into your usenet post.

No real difference.

I think this medium is outdated.

On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 06:15:03 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

FLUSH the trolling senile asshole's latest troll**** unread

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On 13/03/2021 16:41, williamwright wrote:
The big drawback to this sort of group is that you can't post a picture...

On the contrary, that is one of its big advantages.


--
Colin Bignell

On 13 Mar 2021 at 16:41:48 GMT, "williamwright"
wrote:

The big drawback to this sort of group is that you can't post a picture.
I know you can put it on Dropbox or wherever but that's a faff. On
Facebook or Whatsapp all I have to do to post a picture is
Click on camera and take the picture
Click on the Snipping Tool and go 'edit-copy'
Click on my message and go 'paste'.

I think this medium is outdated.

Bill

The medium does allow it. It is a deliberate mutual choice (but to some
extent enforced by the lack of free binary news servers) that we don't have
pictures in text groups. Note that in one way or another all the forums with
pictures rely on us paying much more money directly or big business making
money out of our private data.

I like it like that.


--
Roger Hayter

On 13/03/2021 16:41, williamwright wrote:
The big drawback to this sort of group is that you can't post a picture.
I know you can put it on Dropbox or wherever but that's a faff. On
Facebook or Whatsapp all I have to do to post a picture is
Click on camera and take the picture
Click on the Snipping Tool and go 'edit-copy'
Click on my message and go 'paste'.

I think this medium is outdated.

There are groups that accept binaries suitable for photos but few
servers carry them down to bandwidth issues.

I think
https://imgbb.com/
is pretty easy to use. It must be if T i m uses it.

On 13/03/2021 16:50, Tim+ wrote:

Theres always Homeownershub... ;-)

But aren't they all women?

Bill

On 13/03/2021 16:57, Tim Streater wrote:
After which FB etc can sell your pic to anyone they choose.

My pictures are valueless.

Bill

williamwright wrote
Tim+ wrote

Theres always Homeownershub... ;-)

But aren't they all women?

Nope, certainly a higher percentage of
them are women there than here tho.

On 14/03/2021 01:55, williamwright wrote:
On 13/03/2021 16:57, Tim Streater wrote:
After which FB etc can sell your pic to anyone they choose.

My pictures are valueless.

Bill

Don't sell yourself short. You never know, you could be the next Beeple.

On 13/03/2021 20:02, Fredxx wrote:
On 13/03/2021 16:41, williamwright wrote:
The big drawback to this sort of group is that you can't post a
picture. I know you can put it on Dropbox or wherever but that's a
faff. On Facebook or Whatsapp all I have to do to post a picture is
Click on camera and take the picture
Click on the Snipping Tool and go 'edit-copy'
Click on my message and go 'paste'.

I think this medium is outdated.

There are groups that accept binaries suitable for photos but few
servers carry them down to bandwidth issues.

I think
Â* https://imgbb.com/
is pretty easy to use. It must be if T i m uses it.

Damn. You're right.
Every time I see /imgbb.com/ it make me think that there is a link from
an idiot to vegan related **** so I ignore it.

The big good thing about this place is there are no pictures as I cannot
read a picture and as you say yourself where is the faff in putting it on
dropbox and pasting the link here, it keeps this place small, ie you do not
need a binary group with its inherent inefficiency, If that is really
important, go and suffer death by a thousand data leaks on Twitcface. There
is no mystery on why so many people are not on clubhouse its audio only, no
pictures. This place has survived with no pictures long enough to know that
its not going to change cos you want it to, there are places for that and
its just not here! Grin

Brian

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Blind user, so no pictures please
Note this Signature is meaningless.!
"williamwright" wrote in message
...
The big drawback to this sort of group is that you can't post a picture. I
know you can put it on Dropbox or wherever but that's a faff. On Facebook
or Whatsapp all I have to do to post a picture is
Click on camera and take the picture
Click on the Snipping Tool and go 'edit-copy'
Click on my message and go 'paste'.

I think this medium is outdated.

Bill

As I say its like a new neighbour moving in and complaining about the view
of your ham radio aerial which has been in the same place for 20 years, like
so why come here then aka why try to change what this place has always been.
Brian

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The Sofa of Brian Gaff...

Blind user, so no pictures please
Note this Signature is meaningless.!
"Tim+" wrote in message
...
williamwright wrote:
The big drawback to this sort of group is that you can't post a picture.
I know you can put it on Dropbox or wherever but that's a faff. On
Facebook or Whatsapp all I have to do to post a picture is
Click on camera and take the picture
Click on the Snipping Tool and go 'edit-copy'
Click on my message and go 'paste'.

I think this medium is outdated.

Or "classic".

There's always Homeownershub... ;-)


Tim


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On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 13:58:10 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:



But aren't they all women?

Nope

LOL!

--
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"Auto-contradictor Rod is back! (in the KF)"
MID:

Or moving to a rural village and complaining about the
noise of cows blaring, tractors on the roads, cocks
crowing etc

Andrew

On 14/03/2021 08:26, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
As I say its like a new neighbour moving in and complaining about the view
of your ham radio aerial which has been in the same place for 20 years, like
so why come here then aka why try to change what this place has always been.
Brian

On 14/03/2021 01:55, williamwright wrote:
On 13/03/2021 16:57, Tim Streater wrote:
After which FB etc can sell your pic to anyone they choose.

My pictures are valueless.

Bill

Why take them or keep them, then ??

On 14/03/2021 01:55, williamwright wrote:
On 13/03/2021 16:57, Tim Streater wrote:
After which FB etc can sell your pic to anyone they choose.

My pictures are valueless.

Bill

Dumb attitude. Your personal data harvested from ****fests like Facebook
is what has earned them billions.

On 14/03/2021 07:49, Richard wrote:

Every time I see /imgbb.com/ it make me think that there is a link from
an idiot to vegan related **** so I ignore it.

WHS!

--
Spike

In article ,
williamwright wrote:
The big drawback to this sort of group is that you can't post a picture.
I know you can put it on Dropbox or wherever but that's a faff. On
Facebook or Whatsapp all I have to do to post a picture is
Click on camera and take the picture
Click on the Snipping Tool and go 'edit-copy'
Click on my message and go 'paste'.

I think this medium is outdated.

No thanks. As well as the continuous OT posts, we'd get enormous files of
fluffy kitten pictures.

Not heard of Facebook, Bill, or any of the other ones where you can post
pics ad nauseam?

--
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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On 14/03/2021 16:39, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
williamwright wrote:
The big drawback to this sort of group is that you can't post a picture.
I know you can put it on Dropbox or wherever but that's a faff. On
Facebook or Whatsapp all I have to do to post a picture is
Click on camera and take the picture
Click on the Snipping Tool and go 'edit-copy'
Click on my message and go 'paste'.

I think this medium is outdated.

No thanks. As well as the continuous OT posts, we'd get enormous files of
fluffy kitten pictures....

Or, as this a DIY group, running commentaries on the life of a DIYer,
such as a picture entitled 'this is the hammer I just hit my finger
with'. The picture will, of course, be badly composed and poorly lit.



--
Colin Bignell

In article ,
nightjar wrote:
On 14/03/2021 16:39, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
williamwright wrote:
The big drawback to this sort of group is that you can't post a picture.
I know you can put it on Dropbox or wherever but that's a faff. On
Facebook or Whatsapp all I have to do to post a picture is
Click on camera and take the picture
Click on the Snipping Tool and go 'edit-copy'
Click on my message and go 'paste'.

I think this medium is outdated.

No thanks. As well as the continuous OT posts, we'd get enormous files of
fluffy kitten pictures....

Or, as this a DIY group, running commentaries on the life of a DIYer,
such as a picture entitled 'this is the hammer I just hit my finger
with'. The picture will, of course, be badly composed and poorly lit.

And often old, taken on an out of focus Box Brownie, but scanned at 1000
dpi. To be viewed on a phone...

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

"Andrew" wrote in message
...
On 14/03/2021 01:55, williamwright wrote:
On 13/03/2021 16:57, Tim Streater wrote:
After which FB etc can sell your pic to anyone they choose.

My pictures are valueless.

Why take them or keep them, then ??

Because it can be useful to show what has broken,
what you have that you are asking about, etc etc etc.

"mm0fmf" wrote in message
...
On 14/03/2021 01:55, williamwright wrote:
On 13/03/2021 16:57, Tim Streater wrote:
After which FB etc can sell your pic to anyone they choose.

My pictures are valueless.

Dumb attitude.

Bull****.

Your personal data harvested from ****fests like Facebook is what has
earned them billions.

I dont care. I find them useful for local news, for stuff
I want to buy and sell, for the group I setup and run.

"Rod Speed" wrote in message
...


"mm0fmf" wrote in message
...
On 14/03/2021 01:55, williamwright wrote:
On 13/03/2021 16:57, Tim Streater wrote:
After which FB etc can sell your pic to anyone they choose.

My pictures are valueless.

Dumb attitude.

Bull****.

Your personal data harvested from ****fests like Facebook is what has
earned them billions.

I dont care. I find them useful for local news, for stuff
I want to buy and sell, for the group I setup and run.

I also dont care that Brin made billions, I find google very useful indeed.

I also dont care about Gates and Jobs for the same reason.

On Mon, 15 Mar 2021 09:21:51 +1100, Fred, better known as cantankerous
trolling senile geezer Rodent Speed, wrote:

FLUSH the trolling senile asshole's latest troll**** unread

Get the **** out of humans-only ngs, you sick Australian pig!

--
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"This is just a hunch, but I'm betting you're kinda an argumentative
asshole.
MID:

In article , Andrew
writes
Or moving to a rural village and complaining about the
noise of cows blaring, tractors on the roads, cocks
crowing etc

Andrew
And lack of broadband.

On 14/03/2021 08:26, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
As I say its like a new neighbour moving in and complaining about the view
of your ham radio aerial which has been in the same place for 20 years, like
so why come here then aka why try to change what this place has always been.
Brian



--
bert

On 14/03/2021 16:52, nightjar wrote:
On 14/03/2021 16:39, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Â*Â*Â* williamwright wrote:
The big drawback to this sort of group is that you can't post a picture.
I know you can put it on Dropbox or wherever but that's a faff. On
Facebook or Whatsapp all I have to do to post a picture is
Click on camera and take the picture
Click on the Snipping Tool and go 'edit-copy'
Click on my message and go 'paste'.

I think this medium is outdated.

No thanks. As well as the continuous OT posts, we'd get enormous files of
fluffy kitten pictures....

Or, as this a DIY group, running commentaries on the life of a DIYer,
such as a picture entitled 'this is the hammer I just hit my finger
with'. The picture will, of course, be badly composed and poorly lit.



24 Hours in A&E and its endless repeats on More4 are good
for that.

On 15/03/2021 14:10, Andrew wrote:
On 14/03/2021 16:52, nightjar wrote:
On 14/03/2021 16:39, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Â*Â*Â* williamwright wrote:
The big drawback to this sort of group is that you can't post a
picture.
I know you can put it on Dropbox or wherever but that's a faff. On
Facebook or Whatsapp all I have to do to post a picture is
Click on camera and take the picture
Click on the Snipping Tool and go 'edit-copy'
Click on my message and go 'paste'.

I think this medium is outdated.

No thanks. As well as the continuous OT posts, we'd get enormous
files of
fluffy kitten pictures....

Or, as this a DIY group, running commentaries on the life of a DIYer,
such as a picture entitled 'this is the hammer I just hit my finger
with'. The picture will, of course, be badly composed and poorly lit.



24 Hours in A&E and its endless repeats on More4 are good
for that.

Don't start me on phone videos submitted to TV, having been taken in
portrait orientation. :-(

--
Colin Bignell

On 13/03/2021 16:41, williamwright wrote:
The big drawback to this sort of group is that you can't post a picture.
I know you can put it on Dropbox or wherever but that's a faff. On
Facebook or Whatsapp all I have to do to post a picture is
Click on camera and take the picture
Click on the Snipping Tool and go 'edit-copy'
Click on my message and go 'paste'.

I think this medium is outdated.

Bill


This came from Usenet and transmitted using NNTP as plain ASCII text
(ASCII art now a dead art ?)

It has its uses and limitations - with ease to add a link to Flikr or
similar it can still be used.

I created a self build group and to allow pictures we went to eGroups,
then that was taken over by Yahoo Groups - who have now discontinued the
service.

There are plenty of forums run on various board software - some good,
some hard work, the issue is they have to be hosted somewhere and that
means a Admin who wants to loade & configure software - and recover
crashes (that happen)

Many have now migrated to FB groups, that does gives multi-media, easy
admin control of members - but a whole world of Spam.

I joined uk-d-i7 around 1983 using trn to access, did a number of
articles at the time for Matthew Marks which went into the DIY Faq.
Is Matthew still about ?

At that point it had a very low ratio of Spam .... but sadly now suffers
heavily from Spam by being cross posts from other groups.

I think this group still has a purpose, but those who want the full
multi-media experience can get what they want from many of the forums
that exist..

"rick" wrote in message
...
On 13/03/2021 16:41, williamwright wrote:
The big drawback to this sort of group is that you can't post a picture.
I know you can put it on Dropbox or wherever but that's a faff. On
Facebook or Whatsapp all I have to do to post a picture is
Click on camera and take the picture
Click on the Snipping Tool and go 'edit-copy'
Click on my message and go 'paste'.

I think this medium is outdated.

Bill


This came from Usenet and transmitted using NNTP as plain ASCII text
(ASCII art now a dead art ?)

It has its uses and limitations - with ease to add a link to Flikr or
similar it can still be used.

I created a self build group and to allow pictures we went to eGroups,
then that was taken over by Yahoo Groups - who have now discontinued the
service.

There are plenty of forums run on various board software - some good, some
hard work, the issue is they have to be hosted somewhere and that means a
Admin who wants to loade & configure software - and recover crashes (that
happen)

Many have now migrated to FB groups, that does gives multi-media, easy
admin control of members - but a whole world of Spam.

I get **** all spam in my group and by spam I
include stuff not relevant to the group purpose.

I joined uk-d-i7 around 1983 using trn to access, did a number of
articles at the time for Matthew Marks which went into the DIY Faq.
Is Matthew still about ?

At that point it had a very low ratio of Spam .... but sadly now suffers
heavily from Spam by being cross posts from other groups.

I think this group still has a purpose, but those who want the full
multi-media experience can get what they want from many of the forums that
exist..

On Tue, 30 Mar 2021 03:49:12 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

FLUSH the trolling senile asshole's latest troll**** unread

03:49 already, senile sociopath? And you've been up and trolling since
03:01, yet again, you abnormal obnoxious cretin!

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"**** you're thick/pathetic excuse for a troll."
MID:

On 15/03/2021 17:02, nightjar wrote:


Don't start me on phone videos submitted to TV, having been taken in
portrait orientation. :-(

Annoying, aren't they. I'm slightly surprised that iPhones with all
their clever tech don't fix that automatically.

On 29/03/2021 18:56, newshound wrote:
On 15/03/2021 17:02, nightjar wrote:


Don't start me on phone videos submitted to TV, having been taken in
portrait orientation. :-(

Annoying, aren't they. I'm slightly surprised that iPhones with all
their clever tech don't fix that automatically.

How would the phone taking the video know that it was to be viewed on a
TV rather than on another phone similarly held portrait?



--
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reply-to address is (intended to be) valid

On 14/03/2021 15:41, Andrew wrote:
On 14/03/2021 01:55, williamwright wrote:
On 13/03/2021 16:57, Tim Streater wrote:
After which FB etc can sell your pic to anyone they choose.

My pictures are valueless.

Bill

Why take them or keep them, then ??

Sentimental value.

Bill

On 14/03/2021 16:39, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:


I think this medium is outdated.

No thanks. As well as the continuous OT posts, we'd get enormous files of
fluffy kitten pictures.

Not heard of Facebook, Bill, or any of the other ones where you can post
pics ad nauseam?


As usual your logic is hard to follow. Just because I think this medium
is outdated, why do you think that I haven't heard of Facebook? If I
said that black and white TV was outdated would that make you think I'd
never heard of colour?

Bill

On 14/03/2021 16:52, nightjar wrote:

No thanks. As well as the continuous OT posts, we'd get enormous files of
fluffy kitten pictures....

On a DIY group?

Or, as this a DIY group, running commentaries on the life of a DIYer,
such as a picture entitled 'this is the hammer I just hit my finger
with'. The picture will, of course, be badly composed and poorly lit.

It would be really useful to just pop in a little image of the item
you're talking about.

Bill