Inherited an all metal clothes rail that came disassembled.

When trying to put it back together this morning I realised that 10
screws were missing (out of quite a few altogether). I managed to
canibalise 4 that were holding a hook to the structure that I can live
without, but am still left with 6 missing. They are short, very fine
thread, large head and screw straight into the structure itself.

I checked, and it is no longer available for sale.

Before I take it with me on my next trip to the tip, does anybody know
if there a way to find parts for discontinued IKEA products? It would be
a shame to bin as it is well made and must have cost quite a lot when new.

On 29/10/2020 10:55, JoeJoe wrote:
Inherited an all metal clothes rail that came disassembled.

When trying to put it back together this morning I realised that 10
screws were missing (out of quite a few altogether). I managed to
canibalise 4 that were holding a hook to the structure that I can live
without, but am still left with 6 missing. They are short, very fine
thread, large head and screw straight into the structure itself.

I checked, and it is no longer available for sale.

Before I take it with me on my next trip to the tip, does anybody know
if there a way to find parts for discontinued IKEA products? It would be
a shame to bin as it is well made and must have cost quite a lot when new.


A picture of one you have (next to a ruler) would help.
It is unlikely to be anything exotic.

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On 29/10/2020 11:02, alan_m wrote:
On 29/10/2020 10:55, JoeJoe wrote:
Inherited an all metal clothes rail that came disassembled.

When trying to put it back together this morning I realised that 10
screws were missing (out of quite a few altogether). I managed to
canibalise 4 that were holding a hook to the structure that I can live
without, but am still left with 6 missing. They are short, very fine
thread, large head and screw straight into the structure itself.

I checked, and it is no longer available for sale.

Before I take it with me on my next trip to the tip, does anybody know
if there a way to find parts for discontinued IKEA products? It would
be a shame to bin as it is well made and must have cost quite a lot
when new.


A picture of one you have (next to a ruler) would help.
It is unlikely to be anything exotic.



Here goes:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/FVBqPiZHy5egXyMv9
https://photos.app.goo.gl/UgqVVi83rDkv31hP9
https://photos.app.goo.gl/f4F1GojST71rX9AV8
https://photos.app.goo.gl/qApEtYAkpa4Rhx3f6

JoeJoe wrote:

A picture of one you have (next to a ruler) would help.
It is unlikely to be anything exotic.

Here goes:

M5 x 12mm countersunk, pozi, black?

JoeJoe wrote:
On 29/10/2020 11:02, alan_m wrote:
On 29/10/2020 10:55, JoeJoe wrote:
Inherited an all metal clothes rail that came disassembled.

When trying to put it back together this morning I realised that 10
screws were missing (out of quite a few altogether). I managed to
canibalise 4 that were holding a hook to the structure that I can live
without, but am still left with 6 missing. They are short, very fine
thread, large head and screw straight into the structure itself.

I checked, and it is no longer available for sale.

Before I take it with me on my next trip to the tip, does anybody know
if there a way to find parts for discontinued IKEA products? It would
be a shame to bin as it is well made and must have cost quite a lot
when new.


A picture of one you have (next to a ruler) would help.
It is unlikely to be anything exotic.



Here goes:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/FVBqPiZHy5egXyMv9
https://photos.app.goo.gl/UgqVVi83rDkv31hP9
https://photos.app.goo.gl/f4F1GojST71rX9AV8
https://photos.app.goo.gl/qApEtYAkpa4Rhx3f6


I dare say youll find something that fits here.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/174182678254

Tim

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Andy Burns wrote:

M5 x 12mm countersunk, pozi, black?

You probably don't want 1,000

https://shop4fasteners.co.uk/catalog/product/view/id/102572/s/pozi-csk-flat-head-machine-screws-steel-black-finish-m5-x-12mm/category/4034/

might find them easier if torx or allen-key heads are acceptable?

JoeJoe wrote:
On 29/10/2020 11:02, alan_m wrote:
On 29/10/2020 10:55, JoeJoe wrote:
Inherited an all metal clothes rail that came disassembled.

When trying to put it back together this morning I realised that 10
screws were missing (out of quite a few altogether). I managed to
canibalise 4 that were holding a hook to the structure that I can live
without, but am still left with 6 missing. They are short, very fine
thread, large head and screw straight into the structure itself.

I checked, and it is no longer available for sale.

Before I take it with me on my next trip to the tip, does anybody know
if there a way to find parts for discontinued IKEA products? It would
be a shame to bin as it is well made and must have cost quite a lot
when new.


A picture of one you have (next to a ruler) would help.
It is unlikely to be anything exotic.


Here goes:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/FVBqPiZHy5egXyMv9
https://photos.app.goo.gl/UgqVVi83rDkv31hP9
https://photos.app.goo.gl/f4F1GojST71rX9AV8
https://photos.app.goo.gl/qApEtYAkpa4Rhx3f6

They're just ordinary countersunk machine screws, 1cm long by the look
of it and, though it's a bit difficult to tell exactly the diameter, I
think they're probably M4.

So you want M4, Csk, 1cm (or 10mm) machine screws. You should be able
to find them even at such places as B&Q.

I'm not certain of the diameter though, they may be M3, so take one
with you to match up. (Or buy a box of mixed metric CSK screws from
eBay).

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Chris Green
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Chris Green wrote:

So you want M4, Csk, 1cm (or 10mm) machine screws. You should be able
to find them even at such places as B&Q.

B&Q, screwfix, toolstation don't seem to have them in black though

I'm not certain of the diameter though, they may be M3, so take one
with you to match up. (Or buy a box of mixed metric CSK screws from
eBay).

Measure them as per

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/619695i259CE7C917D9BD7C/image-size/large?v=1.0&px=999

D = diameter M5 (or M4 etc) in mm
L = full length of screw in mm including head

On 29/10/2020 11:41, Andy Burns wrote:
JoeJoe wrote:

A picture of one you have (next to a ruler) would help.
It is unlikely to be anything exotic.

Here goes:

M5 x 12mm countersunk, pozi, black?



Look like you were spot on, right?

https://photos.app.goo.gl/HyJARLWEArQmYCab6
https://photos.app.goo.gl/F7ErDnJnmqSmRrhM8

On 29/10/2020 12:18, Andy Burns wrote:
Chris Green wrote:

So you want M4, Csk, 1cm (or 10mm) machine screws.Â* You should be able
to find them even at such places as B&Q.

B&Q, screwfix, toolstation don't seem to have them in black though

I can comfortably live with silver.

JoeJoe wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

B&Q, screwfix, toolstation don't seem to have them in black though

I can comfortably live with silver.

And a permanent marker pen...

JoeJoe wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

M5 x 12mm countersunk, pozi, black?

Look like you were spot on, right?
https://photos.app.goo.gl/HyJARLWEArQmYCab6
https://photos.app.goo.gl/F7ErDnJnmqSmRrhM8

I'd say so :-)

On 29/10/2020 12:46, Andy Burns wrote:
JoeJoe wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

B&Q, screwfix, toolstation don't seem to have them in black though

I can comfortably live with silver.

And a permanent marker pen...


True enough ;-)

On Thu, 29 Oct 2020 12:43:58 +0000, JoeJoe wrote:

B&Q, screwfix, toolstation don't seem to have them in black though

I can comfortably live with silver.

Or dab the head with a black marker pen when installed. B-)

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Cheers
Dave.

On 29/10/2020 10:55, JoeJoe wrote:
Inherited an all metal clothes rail that came disassembled.

When trying to put it back together this morning I realised that 10
screws were missing (out of quite a few altogether). I managed to
canibalise 4 that were holding a hook to the structure that I can live
without, but am still left with 6 missing. They are short, very fine
thread, large head and screw straight into the structure itself.

I checked, and it is no longer available for sale.

Before I take it with me on my next trip to the tip, does anybody know
if there a way to find parts for discontinued IKEA products? It would be
a shame to bin as it is well made and must have cost quite a lot when new.

Almost certainly a metric thread - just measure the diameter - M2, 2.5,
3, 3.5, 4, 5, 6 mm are standards, and look up on ebay for the thread
pattern and select a suitable head style.

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"And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch".

Gospel of St. Mathew 15:14

On 29/10/2020 11:29, JoeJoe wrote:
On 29/10/2020 11:02, alan_m wrote:
On 29/10/2020 10:55, JoeJoe wrote:
Inherited an all metal clothes rail that came disassembled.

When trying to put it back together this morning I realised that 10
screws were missing (out of quite a few altogether). I managed to
canibalise 4 that were holding a hook to the structure that I can
live without, but am still left with 6 missing. They are short, very
fine thread, large head and screw straight into the structure itself.

I checked, and it is no longer available for sale.

Before I take it with me on my next trip to the tip, does anybody
know if there a way to find parts for discontinued IKEA products? It
would be a shame to bin as it is well made and must have cost quite a
lot when new.


A picture of one you have (next to a ruler) would help.
It is unlikely to be anything exotic.



Here goes:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/FVBqPiZHy5egXyMv9
https://photos.app.goo.gl/UgqVVi83rDkv31hP9
https://photos.app.goo.gl/f4F1GojST71rX9AV8
https://photos.app.goo.gl/qApEtYAkpa4Rhx3f6

M4 x 6mm, countersunk posidrive, black

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/POZI-COUN...5/323793944165

and select M4 x6

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gospel of envy.

Its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.

Winston Churchill

On 29/10/2020 10:55, JoeJoe wrote:
Inherited an all metal clothes rail that came disassembled.

When trying to put it back together this morning I realised that 10
screws were missing (out of quite a few altogether). I managed to
canibalise 4 that were holding a hook to the structure that I can live
without, but am still left with 6 missing. They are short, very fine
thread, large head and screw straight into the structure itself.

I checked, and it is no longer available for sale.

Before I take it with me on my next trip to the tip, does anybody know
if there a way to find parts for discontinued IKEA products? It would be
a shame to bin as it is well made and must have cost quite a lot when new.


Thanks all! I was very close to throwing in the towel.

They are indeed M5 12mm long Pozi macjhine screws as suggested here and
confirmed by my calipre.

Ordered 10 silver ones on eBay for a couple of pounds - will get the
Sharpie out to colour them after they are in place.

Many thanks again.

On 29/10/2020 12:43, JoeJoe wrote:
On 29/10/2020 11:41, Andy Burns wrote:
JoeJoe wrote:

A picture of one you have (next to a ruler) would help.
It is unlikely to be anything exotic.

Here goes:

M5 x 12mm countersunk, pozi, black?



Look like you were spot on, right?

https://photos.app.goo.gl/HyJARLWEArQmYCab6
https://photos.app.goo.gl/F7ErDnJnmqSmRrhM8

M5 yup, but length is usually just the threaded part so 10mm or so

On 29/10/2020 16:59, JoeJoe wrote:
On 29/10/2020 10:55, JoeJoe wrote:
Inherited an all metal clothes rail that came disassembled.

When trying to put it back together this morning I realised that 10
screws were missing (out of quite a few altogether). I managed to
canibalise 4 that were holding a hook to the structure that I can live
without, but am still left with 6 missing. They are short, very fine
thread, large head and screw straight into the structure itself.

I checked, and it is no longer available for sale.

Before I take it with me on my next trip to the tip, does anybody know
if there a way to find parts for discontinued IKEA products? It would
be a shame to bin as it is well made and must have cost quite a lot
when new.


Thanks all!Â* I was very close to throwing in the towel.

They are indeed M5 12mm long Pozi macjhine screws as suggested here and
confirmed by my calipre.

Ordered 10 silver ones on eBay for a couple of pounds - will get the
Sharpie out to colour them after they are in place.

Many thanks again.

Obviously I could be wrong but I feel the length is more likely to be
10 mm than 12mm. But if into a tube or such wouldn't think the length
is critical. Good luck on the 12 fitting OK
Not the first time I've been wrong though, and unfortunately not
likely to be the last .

soup wrote:

M5 yup, but length is usually just the threaded part so 10mm or so

not on a countersunk screw ...

soup wrote:
On 29/10/2020 12:43, JoeJoe wrote:
On 29/10/2020 11:41, Andy Burns wrote:
JoeJoe wrote:

A picture of one you have (next to a ruler) would help.
It is unlikely to be anything exotic.

Here goes:

M5 x 12mm countersunk, pozi, black?



Look like you were spot on, right?

https://photos.app.goo.gl/HyJARLWEArQmYCab6
https://photos.app.goo.gl/F7ErDnJnmqSmRrhM8

M5 yup, but length is usually just the threaded part so 10mm or so

Not for countersunk, length is to the top flat surface of screw head.

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Chris Green
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