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Silent wall switches
Most new wall switches seem to make a loud 'snap' sound when they're
pressed. Are there any ranges of electrical accessories which are quieter or even silent? It seems to me that older switches aren't as loud - this might be because they're worn but some seem to have a softer touch, more sprung and less snappy. Of course you can try and operate a 'snappy' switch in a quiet manner by pressing on it, but that's probably not much good for the switch. Any ranges that are worth looking at? Thanks Theo |
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On 28/02/2020 10:36, Theo wrote:
Most new wall switches seem to make a loud 'snap' sound when they're pressed. Are there any ranges of electrical accessories which are quieter or even silent? It seems to me that older switches aren't as loud - this might be because they're worn but some seem to have a softer touch, more sprung and less snappy. Of course you can try and operate a 'snappy' switch in a quiet manner by pressing on it, but that's probably not much good for the switch. https://www.retrotouch.co.uk/touch-light-switches.html -- Colin Bignell |
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nightjar wrote:
https://www.retrotouch.co.uk/touch-light-switches.html There are those, but I'm looking for a family of regular mechanical switches (and mains sockets, etc), not active ones. Definitely not IoT :-) Theo |
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On 28/02/2020 11:13, nightjar wrote:
On 28/02/2020 10:36, Theo wrote: Most new wall switches seem to make a loud 'snap' sound when they're pressed.Â* Are there any ranges of electrical accessories which are quieter or even silent? It seems to me that older switches aren't as loud - this might be because they're worn but some seem to have a softer touch, more sprung and less snappy. Of course you can try and operate a 'snappy' switch in a quiet manner by pressing on it, but that's probably not much good for the switch. https://www.retrotouch.co.uk/touch-light-switches.html If retrofitting note needs (a) neutral and (b) 35mm back box. -- Robin reply-to address is (intended to be) valid |
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On 28/02/2020 10:36, Theo wrote:
Most new wall switches seem to make a loud 'snap' sound when they're pressed. Are there any ranges of electrical accessories which are quieter or even silent? It seems to me that older switches aren't as loud - this might be because they're worn but some seem to have a softer touch, more sprung and less snappy. Of course you can try and operate a 'snappy' switch in a quiet manner by pressing on it, but that's probably not much good for the switch. Some I have tried where I am, are quiet if I operate them slowly. You could visit various shops and try out what they are selling. -- MAC |
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On Friday, 28 February 2020 10:37:00 UTC, Theo wrote:
Most new wall switches seem to make a loud 'snap' sound when they're pressed. Are there any ranges of electrical accessories which are quieter or even silent? It seems to me that older switches aren't as loud - this might be because they're worn but some seem to have a softer touch, more sprung and less snappy. Of course you can try and operate a 'snappy' switch in a quiet manner by pressing on it, but that's probably not much good for the switch. Any ranges that are worth looking at? Thanks Theo I find it is the pull-cord bathroom light switches that are the most annoying by far. |
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On 28/02/2020 10:36, Theo wrote:
Most new wall switches seem to make a loud 'snap' sound when they're pressed. Are there any ranges of electrical accessories which are quieter or even silent? It seems to me that older switches aren't as loud - this might be because they're worn but some seem to have a softer touch, more sprung and less snappy. Of course you can try and operate a 'snappy' switch in a quiet manner by pressing on it, but that's probably not much good for the switch. Any ranges that are worth looking at? GET/Schneider Ultimate from TLC: https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/GU1011.html Not silent but far less clacky than say MK... -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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Theo wrote: Most new wall switches seem to make a loud 'snap' sound when they're pressed. Are there any ranges of electrical accessories which are quieter or even silent? It seems to me that older switches aren't as loud - this might be because they're worn but some seem to have a softer touch, more sprung and less snappy. Of course you can try and operate a 'snappy' switch in a quiet manner by pressing on it, but that's probably not much good for the switch. I'd say you're right. Remember some damn near silent ones in the 60s. Advertised as such. Not very pretty though. I have touch dimmers that really are silent. Apart from the buzz, of course. ;-) -- *If God had wanted me to touch my toes, he would have put them on my knees Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Friday, 28 February 2020 14:00:29 UTC, polygonum_on_google wrote:
On Friday, 28 February 2020 10:37:00 UTC, Theo wrote: Most new wall switches seem to make a loud 'snap' sound when they're pressed. Are there any ranges of electrical accessories which are quieter or even silent? It seems to me that older switches aren't as loud - this might be because they're worn but some seem to have a softer touch, more sprung and less snappy. Of course you can try and operate a 'snappy' switch in a quiet manner by pressing on it, but that's probably not much good for the switch. Any ranges that are worth looking at? Thanks Theo I find it is the pull-cord bathroom light switches that are the most annoying by far. Which is why in our recent refurbishment we put ordinary light switches on the wall outside of bathrooms. Jonathan |
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On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 14:10:38 +0000, John Rumm wrote:
On 28/02/2020 10:36, Theo wrote: Most new wall switches seem to make a loud 'snap' sound when they're pressed. Are there any ranges of electrical accessories which are quieter or even silent? It seems to me that older switches aren't as loud - this might be because they're worn but some seem to have a softer touch, more sprung and less snappy. Of course you can try and operate a 'snappy' switch in a quiet manner by pressing on it, but that's probably not much good for the switch. Any ranges that are worth looking at? GET/Schneider Ultimate from TLC: https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/GU1011.html Not silent but far less clacky than say MK... Apart from the 'clack' I find it annoying that the action isn't associated with the electrical breaking. My modernish pull switches all break the supply on a gentle pull /then/ clack. Same on make: pull, release slowly, clack (again), make. Does nothing to avoid arcing. The one 'old' switch does it properly, The old toggle light switches only slid the contacts but at least had a snap-over action. -- Peter. The gods will stay away whilst religions hold sway |
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Dave Plowman wrote:
I have touch dimmers that really are silent. Apart from the buzz, of course. I have a couple of ikea zigbee lamps, both are silent when on (even at dimmest setting) but have a *just* audible SMPSU whine when they are off, tempted to try potting one with resin, or giving it a 1/4W load to shut it up. |
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On 28/02/2020 10:36, Theo wrote:
Most new wall switches seem to make a loud 'snap' sound when they're pressed. Are there any ranges of electrical accessories which are quieter or even silent? It seems to me that older switches aren't as loud - this might be because they're worn but some seem to have a softer touch, more sprung and less snappy. Of course you can try and operate a 'snappy' switch in a quiet manner by pressing on it, but that's probably not much good for the switch. Any ranges that are worth looking at? Thanks Theo Banggood have a nice range of retro stop valve switches. i believe these are very quiet in operation and look unusual. https://www.banggood.com/buy/vintage-knife-switch.html |
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On 28/02/2020 10:36, Theo wrote:
It seems to me that older switches aren't as loud - this might be because they're worn but some seem to have a softer touch, more sprung and less snappy. It could be what they are installed in - plastered solid brickwork or plasterboard stud wall. -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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Sounds like a job for one of those touch plate switches.
Brian -- ----- -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! "Theo" wrote in message ... Most new wall switches seem to make a loud 'snap' sound when they're pressed. Are there any ranges of electrical accessories which are quieter or even silent? It seems to me that older switches aren't as loud - this might be because they're worn but some seem to have a softer touch, more sprung and less snappy. Of course you can try and operate a 'snappy' switch in a quiet manner by pressing on it, but that's probably not much good for the switch. Any ranges that are worth looking at? Thanks Theo |
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On 28/02/2020 10:36, Theo wrote:
Most new wall switches seem to make a loud 'snap' sound when they're pressed. Are there any ranges of electrical accessories which are quieter or even silent? It seems to me that older switches aren't as loud - this might be because they're worn but some seem to have a softer touch, more sprung and less snappy. Of course you can try and operate a 'snappy' switch in a quiet manner by pressing on it, but that's probably not much good for the switch. Any ranges that are worth looking at? Thanks Theo I changed all the white 'contract' light switches originally fitted in 1976 for MK logic switches. Much quieter, with a nice rocker action. |
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On 28/02/2020 10:36, Theo wrote:
Most new wall switches seem to make a loud 'snap' sound when they're pressed. Are there any ranges of electrical accessories which are quieter or even silent? It seems to me that older switches aren't as loud - this might be because they're worn but some seem to have a softer touch, more sprung and less snappy. Of course you can try and operate a 'snappy' switch in a quiet manner by pressing on it, but that's probably not much good for the switch. Any ranges that are worth looking at? Thanks Theo The Hamilton range. Bill |
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On Friday, 28 February 2020 16:54:08 UTC, Andy Bennet wrote:
On 28/02/2020 10:36, Theo wrote: Most new wall switches seem to make a loud 'snap' sound when they're pressed. Are there any ranges of electrical accessories which are quieter or even silent? It seems to me that older switches aren't as loud - this might be because they're worn but some seem to have a softer touch, more sprung and less snappy. Of course you can try and operate a 'snappy' switch in a quiet manner by pressing on it, but that's probably not much good for the switch. Any ranges that are worth looking at? Thanks Theo Banggood have a nice range of retro stop valve switches. i believe these are very quiet in operation and look unusual. https://www.banggood.com/buy/vintage-knife-switch.html You could get an old Rolls switch, run it off a 6v wallwart & use it to operate a mains relay. Style & silence. NT |
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alan_m wrote:
On 28/02/2020 10:36, Theo wrote: It seems to me that older switches aren't as loud - this might be because they're worn but some seem to have a softer touch, more sprung and less snappy. It could be what they are installed in - plastered solid brickwork or plasterboard stud wall. The wall can amplify or channel the sound, but the sound comes from the switch itself. If you push it slowly you can feel the snap through your fingers. Thanks everyone for the suggestions. A visit to CEF provided an MK Logic - better, but still with an audible snap. I shall try some of the others. (MK lose points for having a big embossed 'MK' logo on them between the pins - I'm not sure why they need to advertise on the front at all) Theo |
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wrote: alan_m wrote: On 28/02/2020 10:36, Theo wrote: It seems to me that older switches aren't as loud - this might be because they're worn but some seem to have a softer touch, more sprung and less snappy. It could be what they are installed in - plastered solid brickwork or plasterboard stud wall. The wall can amplify or channel the sound, but the sound comes from the switch itself. If you push it slowly you can feel the snap through your fingers. Thanks everyone for the suggestions. A visit to CEF provided an MK Logic - better, but still with an audible snap. I shall try some of the others. (MK lose points for having a big embossed 'MK' logo on them between the pins - I'm not sure why they need to advertise on the front at all) 'cos they're now American owned. -- from KT24 in Surrey, England "I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle |
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On 29/02/2020 16:21, Theo wrote:
alan_m wrote: On 28/02/2020 10:36, Theo wrote: It seems to me that older switches aren't as loud - this might be because they're worn but some seem to have a softer touch, more sprung and less snappy. It could be what they are installed in - plastered solid brickwork or plasterboard stud wall. The wall can amplify or channel the sound, but the sound comes from the switch itself. If you push it slowly you can feel the snap through your fingers. Thanks everyone for the suggestions. A visit to CEF provided an MK Logic - better, but still with an audible snap. I shall try some of the others. (MK lose points for having a big embossed 'MK' logo on them between the pins - I'm not sure why they need to advertise on the front at all) Theo The ones I bought about 7 years don't have any logos ?. Mechanical switches will always have a bit of a 'snap' to stop you closing them intentionally slowly and creating an arc. |
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On 29/02/2020 20:47, Andrew wrote:
On 29/02/2020 16:21, Theo wrote: alan_m wrote: On 28/02/2020 10:36, Theo wrote: It seems to me that older switches aren't as loud - this might be because they're worn but some seem to have a softer touch, more sprung and less snappy. It could be what they are installed in - plastered solid brickwork or plasterboard stud wall. The wall can amplify or channel the sound, but the sound comes from the switch itself.Â* If you push it slowly you can feel the snap through your fingers. Thanks everyone for the suggestions.Â* A visit to CEF provided an MK Logic - better, but still with an audible snap.Â* I shall try some of the others. (MK lose points for having a big embossed 'MK' logo on them between the pins - I'm not sure why they need to advertise on the front at all) Theo The ones I bought about 7 years don't have any logos ?. Mechanical switches will always have a bit of a 'snap' to stop you closing them intentionally slowly and creating an arc. hysteresis is a valuable quality in switching. -- If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State. Joseph Goebbels |
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polygonum_on_google wrote: On Friday, 28 February 2020 10:37:00 UTC, Theo wrote: Most new wall switches seem to make a loud 'snap' sound when they're pressed. Are there any ranges of electrical accessories which are quieter or even silent? It seems to me that older switches aren't as loud - this might be because they're worn but some seem to have a softer touch, more sprung and less snappy. Of course you can try and operate a 'snappy' switch in a quiet manner by pressing on it, but that's probably not much good for the switch. Any ranges that are worth looking at? Thanks Theo I find it is the pull-cord bathroom light switches that are the most annoying by far. Think it would be more difficult to make a silent version due to the weight etc of the pull cord. And that it has to be pretty strong. -- *If I worked as much as others, I would do as little as they * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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wrote: In article , polygonum_on_google wrote: On Friday, 28 February 2020 10:37:00 UTC, Theo wrote: Most new wall switches seem to make a loud 'snap' sound when they're pressed. Are there any ranges of electrical accessories which are quieter or even silent? It seems to me that older switches aren't as loud - this might be because they're worn but some seem to have a softer touch, more sprung and less snappy. Of course you can try and operate a 'snappy' switch in a quiet manner by pressing on it, but that's probably not much good for the switch. Any ranges that are worth looking at? Thanks Theo I find it is the pull-cord bathroom light switches that are the most annoying by far. Think it would be more difficult to make a silent version due to the weight etc of the pull cord. And that it has to be pretty strong. My old 1970s one is fine, the modern one is noisy. -- from KT24 in Surrey, England "I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle |
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On 28/02/2020 11:38, Robin wrote:
On 28/02/2020 11:13, nightjar wrote: On 28/02/2020 10:36, Theo wrote: Most new wall switches seem to make a loud 'snap' sound when they're pressed.Â* Are there any ranges of electrical accessories which are quieter or even silent? It seems to me that older switches aren't as loud - this might be because they're worn but some seem to have a softer touch, more sprung and less snappy. Of course you can try and operate a 'snappy' switch in a quiet manner by pressing on it, but that's probably not much good for the switch. https://www.retrotouch.co.uk/touch-light-switches.html If retrofitting note needs (a) neutral and (b) 35mm back box. Many of the 'smart' light switches (which generally also have an over ride button) need a neutral and aren't compatible with most UK switch arrangements but there are a few which have small (typically a coin cell) battery to power the electronics. You need to look at the more specialist retailers to find them. I've no idea of the battery (cell) life. |
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"Brian Reay" wrote in message ... On 28/02/2020 11:38, Robin wrote: On 28/02/2020 11:13, nightjar wrote: On 28/02/2020 10:36, Theo wrote: Most new wall switches seem to make a loud 'snap' sound when they're pressed. Are there any ranges of electrical accessories which are quieter or even silent? It seems to me that older switches aren't as loud - this might be because they're worn but some seem to have a softer touch, more sprung and less snappy. Of course you can try and operate a 'snappy' switch in a quiet manner by pressing on it, but that's probably not much good for the switch. https://www.retrotouch.co.uk/touch-light-switches.html If retrofitting note needs (a) neutral and (b) 35mm back box. Many of the 'smart' light switches (which generally also have an over ride button) need a neutral and aren't compatible with most UK switch arrangements but there are a few which have small (typically a coin cell) battery to power the electronics. You need to look at the more specialist retailers to find them. I've no idea of the battery (cell) life. The best of them have no battery or wires at all and can be moved around very easily. Usually labelled kinetic. |
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UNBELIEVABLE: It's 02:57 am in Australia and the Senile Ozzietard is out of Bed and TROLLING, already!!!! LOL
On Wed, 4 Mar 2020 02:57:29 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
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