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Do Silent Or Nearly Silent Air Compressors Exist For the Home Shop?
One thing that has always bugged me about air compressors is that
they're noisy as hell. (At least the big Sears kind, which is what we have at work.) That's why I've never bought one for my home workshop. Yet when you visit the automobile service station you never hear the damn things, just the whizz of the impact wrench. I'm going to ask the local mechanic on my next visit but I think I already know the answer: it's outside and it's an industrial unit. Translation: overkill and too expensive for the home shop. Correct? So is there anything that's truly silent or very nearly so for the home shop? I'd really like enough CFM to drive a small sand blaster with it but not if the compressor is going to have SWMBO and her minions running me of the reservation as my workstop is in "my" half of the two car garage, directly below the living space. Suggestions or recommendations? J. |
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"John" wrote in message ... One thing that has always bugged me about air compressors is that they're noisy as hell. (At least the big Sears kind, which is what we have at work.) That's why I've never bought one for my home workshop. I just bought the little Senco. They claim 65db and that sounds about right. Okay, it has very little capacity, which is why it is so quiet; but you can't have everything. |
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I ahve seen that little guy. It isn't an oil less compressor, and it is
very quiet. I am toying with one for my shop. It just seems to purr. John Toller wrote: "John" wrote in message ... One thing that has always bugged me about air compressors is that they're noisy as hell. (At least the big Sears kind, which is what we have at work.) That's why I've never bought one for my home workshop. I just bought the little Senco. They claim 65db and that sounds about right. Okay, it has very little capacity, which is why it is so quiet; but you can't have everything. |
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On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 12:53:58 -0500, John wrote:
So is there anything that's truly silent or very nearly so for the home shop? I'd really like enough CFM to drive a small sand blaster with it but not if the compressor is going to have SWMBO and her minions running me of the reservation as my workstop is in "my" half of the two car garage, directly below the living space. We have a FINI brand small compressor that we carry for back-up work. It's a model that requires oil and looks amazingly like the small Senco pc1005 model. It's very quiet compared to the small Porter Cable pancake type models or a larger Emglo that we use on the job. It won't handle more than two guns at a time though and I'm not sure if it could handle the sandblaster. If you needed a larger model, could you just put it outside and run the hose into the garage? Mike O. |
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I have considered rolling a Sears beast outside and putting it inside a
padded, insulated box. I just don't know where I'd store the box when it's not in use... :-) J. Mike O. wrote: If you needed a larger model, could you just put it outside and run the hose into the garage? |
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"Toller" wrote in message ... I just bought the little Senco. They claim 65db and that sounds about right. I have one too. Its great for brad guns. But its a pea shooter in capacity. Forget trying to use it for anything but a brad gun or pneumatic stapler. Bob |
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"John" wrote in message news I have considered rolling a Sears beast outside and putting it inside a padded, insulated box. I just don't know where I'd store the box when it's not in use... :-) J. You want a compressor that has the seprate motor with belt drive single or twin piston compressor. These are quiter. Service stations usually have them in a storage room. |
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You are quite right about location. I work in a machine shop. Our air
compressors are outside. It has two advantages. It eliminates having to listen to it and it's better for the compressor due to better airflow. It's not at all unresonable to do that at home. Couple of holes in the wall, a litttle pipe and a little wiring. "John" wrote in message ... One thing that has always bugged me about air compressors is that they're noisy as hell. (At least the big Sears kind, which is what we have at work.) That's why I've never bought one for my home workshop. Yet when you visit the automobile service station you never hear the damn things, just the whizz of the impact wrench. I'm going to ask the local mechanic on my next visit but I think I already know the answer: it's outside and it's an industrial unit. Translation: overkill and too expensive for the home shop. Correct? So is there anything that's truly silent or very nearly so for the home shop? I'd really like enough CFM to drive a small sand blaster with it but not if the compressor is going to have SWMBO and her minions running me of the reservation as my workstop is in "my" half of the two car garage, directly below the living space. Suggestions or recommendations? J. |
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there are some previous postings on compressors made by "Jun Air",
e.g., http://groups.google.com/group/rec.w...714d4a6ee90f66 |
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I have a June air or maybe Junair compressor and I can't really hear it at
all. It will run a nail gun but I don't use bigger tools. It is very quiet. I understand they are very expensive. This one was a gift from my boss. max One thing that has always bugged me about air compressors is that they're noisy as hell. (At least the big Sears kind, which is what we have at work.) That's why I've never bought one for my home workshop. Yet when you visit the automobile service station you never hear the damn things, just the whizz of the impact wrench. I'm going to ask the local mechanic on my next visit but I think I already know the answer: it's outside and it's an industrial unit. Translation: overkill and too expensive for the home shop. Correct? So is there anything that's truly silent or very nearly so for the home shop? I'd really like enough CFM to drive a small sand blaster with it but not if the compressor is going to have SWMBO and her minions running me of the reservation as my workstop is in "my" half of the two car garage, directly below the living space. Suggestions or recommendations? J. |
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"BillyBob" wrote in message news "Toller" wrote in message ... I just bought the little Senco. They claim 65db and that sounds about right. I have one too. Its great for brad guns. But its a pea shooter in capacity. Forget trying to use it for anything but a brad gun or pneumatic stapler. I also have a 4 gallon tank. Could I hook it up to the tank to use with something bigger? I understand it will take several minutes to refill the tank, so the rate of use will be pretty feeble, but any reason it wouldn't work? |
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On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 20:14:55 GMT, "CW" wrote:
You are quite right about location. I work in a machine shop. Our air compressors are outside. It has two advantages. It eliminates having to listen to it and it's better for the compressor due to better airflow. It's not at all unresonable to do that at home. Couple of holes in the wall, a litttle pipe and a little wiring. and then hope your neighbors don't add some little holes in the wall.. *g* mac Please remove splinters before emailing |
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Put in a vented shed, you'll hardly hear it at twenty five feet. If your
neighbors are closer than that, you're living in the wrong place. "mac davis" wrote in message ... On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 20:14:55 GMT, "CW" wrote: You are quite right about location. I work in a machine shop. Our air compressors are outside. It has two advantages. It eliminates having to listen to it and it's better for the compressor due to better airflow. It's not at all unresonable to do that at home. Couple of holes in the wall, a litttle pipe and a little wiring. and then hope your neighbors don't add some little holes in the wall.. *g* mac Please remove splinters before emailing |
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I rented a Dewalt electric wheelbarrel type that was so quiet you could
stand next to it and have a conversation at normal volume. Great technology as it runs up to 3 nailers(per the rental yard). It was an oil type and pretty heavy. Down side: around $700. I recently bought a Job Boss by PC and since it was an oil type was hoping for quiet... no dice. It is LOUD! RonT |
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John, Champion makes a 5 hp unit that is relatively quiet for the size. The
commandair series. I worked for a local distributor and God service center for them. You can find out the distributor in your area. They were about 1800.00 but are oil lubed, repairable and easy maintenance for them. I am looking at an Atlas Copco rotary screw for my shop in the future. They are quiet and have a built in air dryer but run about 3500.00. The GX-5 is the unit I am looking at. "John" wrote in message ... One thing that has always bugged me about air compressors is that they're noisy as hell. (At least the big Sears kind, which is what we have at work.) That's why I've never bought one for my home workshop. Yet when you visit the automobile service station you never hear the damn things, just the whizz of the impact wrench. I'm going to ask the local mechanic on my next visit but I think I already know the answer: it's outside and it's an industrial unit. Translation: overkill and too expensive for the home shop. Correct? So is there anything that's truly silent or very nearly so for the home shop? I'd really like enough CFM to drive a small sand blaster with it but not if the compressor is going to have SWMBO and her minions running me of the reservation as my workstop is in "my" half of the two car garage, directly below the living space. Suggestions or recommendations? J. |
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What model did you buy?? Looking at their website there seems to be a
couple. http://www.senco.com/con_rem/prod_finder.aspx Toller wrote: "John" wrote in message ... One thing that has always bugged me about air compressors is that they're noisy as hell. (At least the big Sears kind, which is what we have at work.) That's why I've never bought one for my home workshop. I just bought the little Senco. They claim 65db and that sounds about right. Okay, it has very little capacity, which is why it is so quiet; but you can't have everything. |
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"Toller" wrote in message news I have one too. Its great for brad guns. But its a pea shooter in capacity. Forget trying to use it for anything but a brad gun or pneumatic stapler. I also have a 4 gallon tank. Could I hook it up to the tank to use with something bigger? I understand it will take several minutes to refill the tank, so the rate of use will be pretty feeble, but any reason it wouldn't work? A 4 gallon tank is pretty small. I don't think it would be useful for anything except a few pops with a nail gun. Forget it for tools that require continuous air. Bob |
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One thing that has always bugged me about air compressors is that they're noisy as hell. (At least the big Sears kind, which is what we have at work.) That's why I've never bought one for my home workshop. snip I have a 50 litre direct drive. I house it under a bench in the shed. I have made a cabinet to surround it with the doors and two ends panelled with 6mm peg board. The machine sits on 12mm insertion rubber on a concrete floor. When in the shed it is relatively quiet and from the outside you can hardly hear it. It is quite noisy when in the open. hope this helps regards John |
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John wrote:
One thing that has always bugged me about air compressors is that they're noisy as hell. (At least the big Sears kind, which is what we have at work.) That's why I've never bought one for my home workshop. I just bought a slightly used 5 hp belt driven double piston compressor for $150. It just chugs away quietly. Not silent, but not noisy. The first key is to avoid the direct drive types. I have had two, an oil-less and one that uses oil. Both make a racket and can scare the bejesus out of you if you are standing nearby when it starts up. Mine has a handle and wheels, but that is rather optimistic since it requires a 220 v. outlet. -- Gerald Ross Cochran, GA I'm Not Schizophrenic, And Neither Am I. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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"Eddie Munster" wrote in message ... What model did you buy?? Looking at their website there seems to be a couple. http://www.senco.com/con_rem/prod_finder.aspx I bought the PC1010. It was about $100 from a dealer on Ebay. |
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Hey, I have the "affordable" Porter Cable 6 gallon pancake. My ears
bleed when it fires up. I also have a 12 year old 25 gallon sears unit in my shop. Likewise, my ears bleed when it fires up. The fact is, just about any belt driven compressor that you have to oil is going to run quieter. That said, ask yourself the question. Am I going to buy the filters to keep the oil out of my spray gun? A small laquer job is not worth breaking out the hvlp unit. Unless there is a chance of oil getting in the gun and mixing ,or not mixing well at all, on my beautifully crafted, expensive hardwood project. I am of the opinion that compressors that you have to oil, are more at home in the mechanics shop than the woodworker's shop. Tom in KY, thinking about putting my compressor under the counter and see if that helps keep the blood off of my collar. My wife thanks you John B. and I do too. |
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As you stated, that you want to run a sand blaster, and tat requires a
fair amount of "cfm"-cubic feet/minute, which means a large compressor. I am a field service tech for Atlas Copco air compressors, capacity and quietness generally (in less expensive air compressors) do not go together, if price is important than a exterior location with sound deadening material is the answer, however if you have the money or that, and can afford to put some more with it then I would suggest looking into a Atlas Copco oil free scroll (SF2) compressor, as I have serviced many located in quiet work areas in a lab at "Shrinners Hospital in Boston MA", at many "Lens Crafters" locations. I'm not sure of there cost, I would guess around 4 to 5 thousand, they are available in single phase (220-230) volts as well as the commercially normal 3 phase (208/230-460) volt. Expensive but very quiet, just about as big as a dormitory refrigerator and not as loud as a pain shaker. Cheers, Thomas Cleveland |
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In article , John
wrote: One thing that has always bugged me about air compressors is that they're noisy as hell. (At least the big Sears kind, which is what we have at work.) So far, nobody has answered the real question: "Sears kind", versus reasonably quiet. The "Sears kind" are invariably "oil-free" or "oilless" compressors. Instead of a piston in a cylinder, lubed by oil, they have a diaphragm vibrating rapidly back and forth, with a *braaaaaaaaa* sound guaranteed to make grown men cry. Get an oil-type. Even if you have to get Harbor Freight. Get cast iron requiring a top-off with 30W. Your neighbors (and your eardrums) will thank you. Kevin |
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The scroll compressors used in refrigerators are pretty quiet,
but don't generate a lot of volume or pressure. John wrote: One thing that has always bugged me about air compressors is that they're noisy as hell. (At least the big Sears kind, which is what we have at work.) That's why I've never bought one for my home workshop. |
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Mike Berger writes:
The scroll compressors used in refrigerators are pretty quiet, but don't generate a lot of volume or pressure. You get them in bigger versions, a quick google turned up one with an air output of 440cfm at 10bar (144PSI). At 72dB it's not too quiet, and the 75kW electrical power may be quite a load to our installation, and at 1.8 tons it's not luggable... -- Dr. Juergen Hannappel http://lisa2.physik.uni-bonn.de/~hannappe Phone: +49 228 73 2447 FAX ... 7869 Physikalisches Institut der Uni Bonn Nussallee 12, D-53115 Bonn, Germany CERN: Phone: +412276 76461 Fax: ..77930 Bat. 892-R-A13 CH-1211 Geneve 23 |
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Mike Berger writes:
The scroll compressors used in refrigerators are pretty quiet, but don't generate a lot of volume or pressure. [Blubber] I confused scroll with screw compressor. Disregard. -- Dr. Juergen Hannappel http://lisa2.physik.uni-bonn.de/~hannappe Phone: +49 228 73 2447 FAX ... 7869 Physikalisches Institut der Uni Bonn Nussallee 12, D-53115 Bonn, Germany CERN: Phone: +412276 76461 Fax: ..77930 Bat. 892-R-A13 CH-1211 Geneve 23 |
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Jun-Air makes some small "really quiet" air compressors. They are about as
noisy as a frost free refrigerator and really quite amazing, but their price is a bit more (150%) than a typical pancake compressor. I have one (4 cfm @ 60 psi pancake style) that I use when I'm doing power carving in my hotel room or doing demonstration carving at shows. The first time that I turned mine on I was in a cabinet shop environment, but off in a relatively quiet corner area away from the mainstream work. The light came on when I plugged it in, but I thought it was broken because I didn't hear it running. Then I realized that air was coming out of the valve. Careful inspection, and putting my ear against the compressor, proved me wrong. The small air pulse released from the unloader when it is shutting off is even louder than the compressor running noise. I once used it with a Porter Cable brad nailer to do a job in an area where excessive noise was prohibited, and it did just fine. It'll build pressure to about 120 psi before it shuts off, so light nail gun use with it is possible. If I had originally intended to use it for nail guns I would have bought a larger one though. I had originally intended to use it only for power carving and it's perfect for that. DAGS on Jun-Air air compressors -- Charley "The Visitor" wrote in message ... These aren't really for spraying. Can't you put the compressor outsicde close to your neighbour's house. That's what I am planning. wrote: Hey, I have the "affordable" Porter Cable 6 gallon pancake. My ears bleed when it fires up. I also have a 12 year old 25 gallon sears unit in my shop. Likewise, my ears bleed when it fires up. The fact is, just about any belt driven compressor that you have to oil is going to run quieter. That said, ask yourself the question. Am I going to buy the filters to keep the oil out of my spray gun? A small laquer job is not worth breaking out the hvlp unit. Unless there is a chance of oil getting in the gun and mixing ,or not mixing well at all, on my beautifully crafted, expensive hardwood project. I am of the opinion that compressors that you have to oil, are more at home in the mechanics shop than the woodworker's shop. Tom in KY, thinking about putting my compressor under the counter and see if that helps keep the blood off of my collar. My wife thanks you John B. and I do too. |
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I have a new 5 hp Curtis that has a China made compressor that I DO NOT
RECOMMEND. It is a quiet machine, I t has plenty of power, but the compressor was replaced on warranty as it had a lot of blow by, and would actually fog up my garage. The new one does not have as much blow by , but has fluid leaks !! Since it's Chinese maybe it would like Soy Sauce instead of compressor oil....... |
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