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Seems 1 in 6 will get food poisoning in the US each year. In the UK, it is
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Yet we want to import cheap food from the US. Always knew Brexiteers had a
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Seems 1 in 6 will get food poisoning in the US each year. In the UK, it is
1 in 66.

Yet we want to import cheap food from the US. Always knew Brexiteers had a
death wish.


Could we not just choose to buy English food/chicken rather than US.
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On 24/02/2020 13:47, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Seems 1 in 6 will get food poisoning in the US each year. In the UK,
it is 1 in 66.

Yet we want to import cheap food from the US. Always knew Brexiteers
had a death wish.


Could we not just choose to buy English food/chicken rather than US.


You could, although many will just go for what the supermarket has on the
shelf at the best price - assuming they even get the choice. As with so
much else, many require protection from themselves. But do realise that
won't go down well with many on this group where making a fast buck is all
that matters.

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Seems 1 in 6 will get food poisoning in the US each year. In the UK, it is
1 in 66.

Yet we want to import cheap food from the US. Always knew Brexiteers had a
death wish.


https://briefingsforbritain.co.uk/fa...fact-checkers/
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On 24/02/2020 13:47, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Seems 1 in 6 will get food poisoning in the US each year. In the UK,
it is 1 in 66.

Yet we want to import cheap food from the US. Always knew Brexiteers
had a death wish.


Could we not just choose to buy English food/chicken rather than US.


You could, although many will just go for what the supermarket has on the
shelf at the best price - assuming they even get the choice. As with so
much else, many require protection from themselves. But do realise that
won't go down well with many on this group where making a fast buck is all
that matters.

Personal freedom counts. The right to protect ourselves from
incompetent, corrupt bureaucrats. They say they do it for our own good
but they line their own pockets while "protecting" us.


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On 24/02/2020 13:47, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Seems 1 in 6 will get food poisoning in the US each year. In the UK, it is
1 in 66.

Yet we want to import cheap food from the US. Always knew Brexiteers had a
death wish.


It would of course help to know what station and at roughly what time so
we could check for ourselves exactly what was said and - crucially - by
whom.

In the meantime that seems a repeat of the claim last year on which

https://fullfact.org/health/food-poisoning-US-UK/

concluded

"These estimates are both correct based on government figures, but
theyre not comparable due to differences in methodology and how the
data was collected."

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On 24/02/2020 13:47, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Seems 1 in 6 will get food poisoning in the US each year. In the UK, it
is 1 in 66.

Yet we want to import cheap food from the US. Always knew Brexiteers
had a death wish.


Could we not just choose to buy English food/chicken rather than US.


I suspect they will fudge the labelling so you get no choice. And lock up
anyone who tries to publicise food origins as "terrorists". Or even
worse, "counter terrorists".

The chicken I buy is labelled. Small print but it says Origin-UK.

That's assuming that there isn't a ready pool of people who simply won't
have the luxury of paying a bit extra for non-US food.

Well if they don't have much money shouldn't we give them the choice how
to spend it.
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Pancho wrote:
On 24/02/2020 13:47, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Seems 1 in 6 will get food poisoning in the US each year. In the UK,
it is 1 in 66.

Yet we want to import cheap food from the US. Always knew Brexiteers
had a death wish.


Could we not just choose to buy English food/chicken rather than US.


You could, although many will just go for what the supermarket has on the
shelf at the best price - assuming they even get the choice. As with so
much else, many require protection from themselves. But do realise that
won't go down well with many on this group where making a fast buck is all
that matters.


And? All the /informed/ campaigners against chlorine washed chicken
I've heard lately have argued on the basis of animal welfare not on
consumer health. (Of course on that basis they would (and some do) also
argue for a ban on eggs from caged birds.) But perhaps you've some DIY
research to how the contrary.

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On 24/02/2020 14:06, Richard wrote:
On 24/02/2020 13:47, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Seems 1 in 6 will get food poisoning in the US each year. In the UK,
it is
1 in 66.

Yet we want to import cheap food from the US. Always knew Brexiteers
had a
death wish.


https://briefingsforbritain.co.uk/fa...fact-checkers/


But at least BBC Reality Check (unlike some others of our acquaintance)
tend to own up when they have been shown to have made a mistake

https://twitter.com/BBCRealityCheck/...64511521628160



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Seems 1 in 6 will get food poisoning in
the US each year. In the UK, it is 1 in 66.


Most of that is likely to be due to the different
way that the retail fast food operations are
regulated and different reporting levels.

Yet we want to import cheap food from the US.


You lot always have, most obviously with wheat
and other grains etc.

reams of your remoaner **** that’s almost
as bad as D I M flushed where it belongs



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Richard wrote:
On 24/02/2020 13:47, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Seems 1 in 6 will get food poisoning in the US each year. In the UK, it is
1 in 66.

Yet we want to import cheap food from the US. Always knew Brexiteers had a
death wish.


https://briefingsforbritain.co.uk/fa...fact-checkers/


Thanks for the link, Richard. Not that I've bothered to even read it. As
the 'fact' wasn't heard on the BBC. Although they may well have broadcast
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On 24/02/2020 13:47, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Seems 1 in 6 will get food poisoning in the US each year. In the UK,
it is 1 in 66.

Yet we want to import cheap food from the US. Always knew Brexiteers
had a death wish.


It would of course help to know what station and at roughly what time so
we could check for ourselves exactly what was said and - crucially - by
whom.


In the meantime that seems a repeat of the claim last year on which


https://fullfact.org/health/food-poisoning-US-UK/


concluded


"These estimates are both correct based on government figures, but
they‘re not comparable due to differences in methodology and how the
data was collected."


For every single 'fact' anywhere, there will be an 'expert' who disagrees
with it.

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On 24/02/2020 13:47, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Seems 1 in 6 will get food poisoning in the US each year. In the UK,
it is 1 in 66.

Yet we want to import cheap food from the US. Always knew Brexiteers
had a death wish.


Could we not just choose to buy English food/chicken rather than US.


Woss this? Our Dave making it up as he goes along - again?


I lived 12 years in the US, yet, oddly, didn't get food poisoning once.


Ah - right. So no one else ever did either then?

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On 24/02/2020 14:06, Richard wrote:
On 24/02/2020 13:47, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Seems 1 in 6 will get food poisoning in the US each year. In the UK, it
is
1 in 66.

Yet we want to import cheap food from the US. Always knew Brexiteers had
a
death wish.


https://briefingsforbritain.co.uk/fa...fact-checkers/


But at least BBC Reality Check (unlike some others of our acquaintance)
tend to own up when they have been shown to have made a mistake

https://twitter.com/BBCRealityCheck/...64511521628160


But havent to those who watched the original program.

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On 24/02/2020 14:06, Richard wrote:
On 24/02/2020 13:47, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Seems 1 in 6 will get food poisoning in the US each year. In the UK,
it is
1 in 66.

Yet we want to import cheap food from the US. Always knew Brexiteers
had a
death wish.


https://briefingsforbritain.co.uk/fa...fact-checkers/


But at least BBC Reality Check (unlike some others of our acquaintance)
tend to own up when they have been shown to have made a mistake

https://twitter.com/BBCRealityCheck/...64511521628160


OK, but I don't do twitter so have little chance of seeing anything there.


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Robin wrote:
On 24/02/2020 13:47, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Seems 1 in 6 will get food poisoning in the US each year. In the UK,
it is 1 in 66.

Yet we want to import cheap food from the US. Always knew Brexiteers
had a death wish.


It would of course help to know what station and at roughly what time so
we could check for ourselves exactly what was said and - crucially - by
whom.


In the meantime that seems a repeat of the claim last year on which


https://fullfact.org/health/food-poisoning-US-UK/


concluded


"These estimates are both correct based on government figures, but
they€˜re not comparable due to differences in methodology and how the
data was collected."


For every single 'fact' anywhere, there will be an 'expert' who disagrees
with it.


Yep. So why bother with your persistent scaremongering?

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On 24/02/2020 13:47, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Seems 1 in 6 will get food poisoning in the US each year. In the UK, it
is 1 in 66.

Yet we want to import cheap food from the US. Always knew Brexiteers
had a death wish.


Could we not just choose to buy English food/chicken rather than US.


Woss this? Our Dave making it up as he goes along - again?

I lived 12 years in the US, yet, oddly, didn't get food poisoning once.


Same here, well, 14 years actually.
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It would of course help to know what station and at roughly what time so
we could check for ourselves exactly what was said and - crucially - by
whom.


In the meantime that seems a repeat of the claim last year on which


https://fullfact.org/health/food-poisoning-US-UK/


concluded


"These estimates are both correct based on government figures, but
they‘re not comparable due to differences in methodology and how the
data was collected."


Right. A margin of error. So perhaps 1 in 10 for the US versus 1 in 50 for
the UK?

By all means point out the way something is measured may effect the true
figures, especially where that also allows those who want to to ignore a
trend. But to have credence, you'd also have to say fully what the
differences are in how the figures are collected.

And given the US versus UK health systems, who is more likely to go to a
doctor for a minor case? Where that is free, or where you have to pay for
it?

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Seems 1 in 6 will get food poisoning in the US each year. In the UK, it is
1 in 66.


Its inadvisable to compare food poisoning figures between countries

The UKs Food Standards Agency (FSA) told us the estimates for the number of people with food poisoning in the UK and USA are not directly comparable.

https://fullfact.org/health/food-poisoning-US-UK/



Yet we want to import cheap food from the US. Always knew Brexiteers had a
death wish.


Spain in the EU doesnlt come out too well in this.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/t...ya-Mexico.html



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Robin wrote:
On 24/02/2020 13:47, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Seems 1 in 6 will get food poisoning in the US each year. In the UK,
it is 1 in 66.

Yet we want to import cheap food from the US. Always knew Brexiteers
had a death wish.


It would of course help to know what station and at roughly what time so
we could check for ourselves exactly what was said and - crucially - by
whom.


In the meantime that seems a repeat of the claim last year on which


https://fullfact.org/health/food-poisoning-US-UK/


concluded


"These estimates are both correct based on government figures, but
they€˜re not comparable due to differences in methodology and how the
data was collected."


For every single 'fact' anywhere, there will be an 'expert' who disagrees
with it.


But if you told us where and when you heard it we could judge for
ourselves the authority you chose to report. As it stands we don't know
if it was any more than - say - a known hard activist seeking to recycle
old "fake news" to damage HMG.

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On 24/02/2020 13:47, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Seems 1 in 6 will get food poisoning in the US each year. In the UK,
it is 1 in 66.

Yet we want to import cheap food from the US. Always knew Brexiteers
had a death wish.


Could we not just choose to buy English food/chicken rather than US.


You could, although many will just go for what the supermarket has on the
shelf at the best price - assuming they even get the choice. As with so
much else, many require protection from themselves. But do realise that
won't go down well with many on this group where making a fast buck is all
that matters.


For instance, how many know that chicken from anywhere (including
Thailand and Eastern Europe) can be sold as 'British chicken' if it is
packed here? Presumably the same would apply to American chicken were
it legal to import it.


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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
Pancho wrote:
On 24/02/2020 13:47, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Seems 1 in 6 will get food poisoning in the US each year. In the UK,
it is 1 in 66.

Yet we want to import cheap food from the US. Always knew Brexiteers
had a death wish.


Could we not just choose to buy English food/chicken rather than US.


You could, although many will just go for what the supermarket has on the
shelf at the best price - assuming they even get the choice. As with so
much else, many require protection from themselves. But do realise that
won't go down well with many on this group where making a fast buck is all
that matters.


For instance, how many know that chicken from anywhere (including
Thailand and Eastern Europe) can be sold as 'British chicken' if it is
packed here? Presumably the same would apply to American chicken were
it legal to import it.



https://www.gov.uk/guidance/food-labelling-country-of-origin

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Poultry, sheep, goats and swine meat labelling

You must label all unprocessed, pre-packaged poultry, sheep, goat and
swine meat with the country of:

rearing - state €œreared in: [EU member state or non-EU country]€
slaughter - state €œslaughtered in: [EU member state or non-EU country]€

If poultry, sheep, goat or swine meat is taken from animals born, reared
and slaughtered in the same country you can label it as €œOrigin: [EU
member state or non-EU country]€.

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On 24/02/2020 14:01, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Mon, 24 Feb 2020 13:52:02 +0000, Pancho wrote:

On 24/02/2020 13:47, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Seems 1 in 6 will get food poisoning in the US each year. In the UK,
it is 1 in 66.

Yet we want to import cheap food from the US. Always knew Brexiteers
had a death wish.


Could we not just choose to buy English food/chicken rather than US.

I suspect they will fudge the labelling so you get no choice. And lock
up anyone who tries to publicise food origins as "terrorists". Or even
worse, "counter terrorists".

The chicken I buy is labelled. Small print but it says Origin-UK.


I doubt you can be as stupid as you just came across as.


I assure you I didn't intend to come across as stupid. I don't know why
you think my comment was stupid. Perhaps you could elaborate.


That's assuming that there isn't a ready pool of people who simply
won't have the luxury of paying a bit extra for non-US food.

Well if they don't have much money shouldn't we give them the choice how
to spend it.


Or just cull them. Two birds with one stone.


And eat them?



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On 24/02/2020 13:47, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Seems 1 in 6 will get food poisoning in the US each year. In the UK,
it is
1 in 66.

Yet we want to import cheap food from the US. Always knew Brexiteers
had a
death wish.


Could we not just choose to buy English food/chicken rather than US.


I find it more unbelievable that Plow**** is still banging on about
something he knows he knows nothing about.

COVID-19 is a far bigger threat than Brexit.

With luck being out of Schengen and out of the EU may let us ride that
one out...


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On Mon, 24 Feb 2020 13:52:02 +0000, Pancho wrote:

On 24/02/2020 13:47, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Seems 1 in 6 will get food poisoning in the US each year. In the UK, it
is 1 in 66.

Yet we want to import cheap food from the US. Always knew Brexiteers
had a death wish.


Could we not just choose to buy English food/chicken rather than US.


I suspect they will fudge the labelling so you get no choice.


Oh dear. All food in a supermarket is labelled with country of origin
Remainers remain thick


And lock up
anyone who tries to publicise food origins as "terrorists". Or even
worse, "counter terrorists".

That's assuming that there isn't a ready pool of people who simply won't
have the luxury of paying a bit extra for non-US food.

Of FFS!


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Â*Â*Â* Pancho wrote:
On 24/02/2020 13:47, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Seems 1 in 6 will get food poisoning in the US each year. In the UK,
it is 1 in 66.

Yet we want to import cheap food from the US. Always knew Brexiteers
had a death wish.


Could we not just choose to buy English food/chicken rather than US.


You could, although many will just go for what the supermarket has on the
shelf at the best price - assuming they even get the choice. As with so
much else, many require protection from themselves. But do realise that
won't go down well with many on this group where making a fast buck is
all
that matters.

Personal freedom counts. The right to protect ourselves from
incompetent, corrupt bureaucrats. They say they do it for our own good
but they line their own pockets while "protecting" us.


Which is why we had to leave the EU


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On 24/02/2020 14:10, Pancho wrote:
On 24/02/2020 13:58, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
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Â*Â*Â* Pancho wrote:
On 24/02/2020 13:47, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Seems 1 in 6 will get food poisoning in the US each year. In the UK,
it is 1 in 66.

Yet we want to import cheap food from the US. Always knew Brexiteers
had a death wish.


Could we not just choose to buy English food/chicken rather than US.

You could, although many will just go for what the supermarket has on
the
shelf at the best price - assuming they even get the choice. As with so
much else, many require protection from themselves. But do realise that
won't go down well with many on this group where making a fast buck
is all
that matters.

Personal freedom counts. The right to protect ourselves from
incompetent, corrupt bureaucrats. They say they do it for our own good
but they line their own pockets while "protecting" us.


Which is why we had to leave the EU


I've never got this argument.

Yep, I fully understand that EU bureaucrats are corrupt, incompetents
lining their own pockets. The thing is that Westminster bureaucrats are
the same. Local councils too, for that matter.



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Seems 1 in 6 will get food poisoning in the US each year. In the UK, it is
1 in 66.

Yet we want to import cheap food from the US. Always knew Brexiteers had a
death wish.



This was from a Labour Party press release in 2019!

https://labour.org.uk/press/rat-hair...-deal-trump-2/

I suspect that you have been recently listening to the Labour Party
leadership spin where the same old discredited policies and views are
being trotted out again.

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On 24/02/2020 14:01, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Mon, 24 Feb 2020 13:52:02 +0000, Pancho wrote:

On 24/02/2020 13:47, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Seems 1 in 6 will get food poisoning in the US each year. In the UK, it
is 1 in 66.

Yet we want to import cheap food from the US. Always knew Brexiteers
had a death wish.


Could we not just choose to buy English food/chicken rather than US.


I suspect they will fudge the labelling so you get no choice. And lock up
anyone who tries to publicise food origins as "terrorists". Or even
worse, "counter terrorists".

That's assuming that there isn't a ready pool of people who simply won't
have the luxury of paying a bit extra for non-US food.


Most of the "dodgy" chicken imported from the far east isn't found in
the Supermarkets as it mainly goes into the take-away food and
restaurant industry. There is already a pool of people who CAN afford
to buy it.

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On 24/02/2020 16:59, Pancho wrote:
On 24/02/2020 16:38, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 24/02/2020 14:10, Pancho wrote:
On 24/02/2020 13:58, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Â*Â*Â* Pancho wrote:
On 24/02/2020 13:47, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Seems 1 in 6 will get food poisoning in the US each year. In the UK,
it is 1 in 66.

Yet we want to import cheap food from the US. Always knew Brexiteers
had a death wish.


Could we not just choose to buy English food/chicken rather than US.

You could, although many will just go for what the supermarket has
on the
shelf at the best price - assuming they even get the choice. As with so
much else, many require protection from themselves. But do realise that
won't go down well with many on this group where making a fast buck
is all
that matters.

Personal freedom counts. The right to protect ourselves from
incompetent, corrupt bureaucrats. They say they do it for our own
good but they line their own pockets while "protecting" us.


Which is why we had to leave the EU


I've never got this argument.

Yep, I fully understand that EU bureaucrats are corrupt, incompetents
lining their own pockets. The thing is that Westminster bureaucrats are
the same. Local councils too, for that matter.


Of course. However, I prefer that my money is stolen by someone within
relatively easy reach so that when I eventually snap I don't have to
travel too far.
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Pancho wrote:
On 24/02/2020 13:47, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Seems 1 in 6 will get food poisoning in the US each year. In the UK,
it is 1 in 66.

Yet we want to import cheap food from the US. Always knew Brexiteers
had a death wish.


Could we not just choose to buy English food/chicken rather than US.


You could, although many will just go for what the supermarket has on the
shelf at the best price - assuming they even get the choice. As with so
much else, many require protection from themselves. But do realise that
won't go down well with many on this group where making a fast buck is all
that matters.

One of the issues is that it is unlikely we would all have the choice. That requires adequate labelling and describing. Not just in supermarkets but in restaurants and takeaways and everywhere else.

Unless they are using it as a selling point, few outlets even tell what country their chicken comes from.

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On 24/02/2020 17:06, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Mon, 24 Feb 2020 16:37:28 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 24/02/2020 14:01, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Mon, 24 Feb 2020 13:52:02 +0000, Pancho wrote:

On 24/02/2020 13:47, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Seems 1 in 6 will get food poisoning in the US each year. In the UK,
it is 1 in 66.

Yet we want to import cheap food from the US. Always knew Brexiteers
had a death wish.


Could we not just choose to buy English food/chicken rather than US.

I suspect they will fudge the labelling so you get no choice.


Oh dear. All food in a supermarket is labelled with country of origin
Remainers remain thick


You forgot to cite the mechanism by which no changes can ever be made to
food labelling regulations.

Why would the EU change them?

Why would we change them?

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On 24/02/2020 16:38, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 24/02/2020 14:10, Pancho wrote:
On 24/02/2020 13:58, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Â*Â*Â* Pancho wrote:
On 24/02/2020 13:47, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Seems 1 in 6 will get food poisoning in the US each year. In the UK,
it is 1 in 66.

Yet we want to import cheap food from the US. Always knew Brexiteers
had a death wish.


Could we not just choose to buy English food/chicken rather than US.

You could, although many will just go for what the supermarket has
on the
shelf at the best price - assuming they even get the choice. As with so
much else, many require protection from themselves. But do realise that
won't go down well with many on this group where making a fast buck
is all
that matters.

Personal freedom counts. The right to protect ourselves from
incompetent, corrupt bureaucrats. They say they do it for our own
good but they line their own pockets while "protecting" us.


Which is why we had to leave the EU


I've never got this argument.

Yep, I fully understand that EU bureaucrats are corrupt, incompetents
lining their own pockets. The thing is that Westminster bureaucrats are
the same. Local councils too, for that matter.

You are too stupid to live in a free country. We can sack the ones in
Westminster and the local councils





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who talks little,When his work is done, his aim fulfilled,They will say,
€œWe did this ourselves.€

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1 in 66.



That sounds interesting. What programme?

Bill
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Robin wrote:
For every single 'fact' anywhere, there will be an 'expert' who disagrees
with it.


But if you told us where and when you heard it we could judge for
ourselves the authority you chose to report. As it stands we don't know
if it was any more than - say - a known hard activist seeking to recycle
old "fake news" to damage HMG.


Crikey. Any more conspiracy theories you'd like to air while you're at it?

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I find it more unbelievable that Plow**** is still banging on about
something he knows he knows nothing about.


I find it unbelievable that Turnip feels the need to comment on my posts,
given he claims to have killfiled me.

But then he never did have any principles. ;-)

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are the same. Local councils too, for that matter.

You are too stupid to live in a free country. We can sack the ones in
Westminster and the local councils


And yet we ended up with Boris.

Do you ever post any sense?

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*Sherlock Holmes never said "Elementary, my dear Watson" *


Holmes and Watson were off sleuthing in Italy. Watson was feeling a bit hungry so asked Holmes where he could buy some food.

"Alimentari, my dear Watson".
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