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wrote in message ... On Tuesday, 16 April 2019 00:56:23 UTC+1, tabby wrote: On Monday, 15 April 2019 21:51:00 UTC+1, Clive Page wrote: On 15/04/2019 19:18, Andy Burns wrote: Adam, has you apprentice been playing with a blowtorch again? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-47941794 It is a tragedy. But it seems so many historic buildings catch fire while being renovated. For example in recent years, e.g. Windsor Castle, York Minster, Glasgow School of Art. My recommendation: go to see the Palace of Westminster before it too burns down, as parliamentarians are determined to start a substantial renovation effort in just a year or two. It does seem that building contractors can be awfully careless in these old buildings: all it takes is a blowlamp left too long near to something flammable, or a multi-way power adaptor just a bit overloaded. In all these cases it seems that the fire takes hold and spreads quite widely before anyone notices: after all there must have been *lots* of people around in the Notre Dame in early evening. Wouldn't it be feasible, while works are under way, to install dozens or even hundreds of small radio-linked battery-operated smoke detectors all over the structure? I think the reality too often is people that truly don't give a toss. Add folk that have no clue what they're doing & people still drunk or stoned and no surprise things go wrong. I had to take a blowlamp off someone not too long ago. What he was doing with it was a disaster. It's hard to mandate care. Make the people involved financially responsible Not even possible with places like that. Not even possible to make their employer financially responsible with places like that, they'd just go broke when they produce a result like that. and partial improvement would occur. |
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"Richard" wrote in message ... On 15/04/2019 20:54, Brian Reay wrote: On 15/04/2019 19:18, Andy Burns wrote: Adam, has you apprentice been playing with a blowtorch again? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-47941794 A tragedy. An opportunity for some nice affordable housing projects. Whenever we visit Paris (it is normally part of or annual Tour de France), we make a point of having a picnic by the Seine overlooking Notre Dame. The picnic spot will still be there. So will Notre Dame and hopefully it wont take 200 years to restore it this time. |
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"harry" wrote in message ... On Monday, 15 April 2019 20:48:58 UTC+1, Vir Campestris wrote: On 15/04/2019 19:18, Andy Burns wrote: Adam, has you apprentice been playing with a blowtorch again? **** isn't it. They commented on the Beeb earlier that when the Nazis were thrown out the local Kommandant was ordered to destroy it. He didn't obey the order. Now some twit with a Gaulois takes it out. Or something else equally stupid. ISIS? More likely someone ****ed up during the renovations, bigot boy. |
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"Davidm" wrote in message ... On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 21:50:55 +0100, Clive Page wrote: On 15/04/2019 19:18, Andy Burns wrote: Adam, has you apprentice been playing with a blowtorch again? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-47941794 My recommendation: go to see the Palace of Westminster before it too burns down, as parliamentarians are determined to start a substantial renovation effort in just a year or two. Bring back Guy Fawkes He's a tad smelly now. - would solve a few problems!!! And cause a few too. |
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Lonely Psychopathic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert!
On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 11:45:21 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rot Speed,
the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: Now some twit with a Gaulois takes it out. Or something else equally stupid. ISIS? More likely someone ****ed up during the renovations, bigot boy. It's time someone took YOU out, you auto-contradicting senile asshole! -- "Anonymous" to trolling senile Rot Speed: "You can **** off as you know less than pig **** you sad little ignorant ****." MID: |
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Lonely Psychopathic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert!
On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 11:44:23 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: The picnic spot will still be there. So will Notre Dame and hopefully it wont take 200 years to restore it this time. YOU won't be around anymore by the time it has been restored, you 85-year-old senile pest! -- Norman Wells addressing senile Rot: "Ah, the voice of scum speaks." MID: |
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Lonely Psychopathic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert!
On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 11:36:39 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rot Speed,
the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: Not LOL Not LOL Take your pills, Rodent, you auto-contradicting senile asshole! -- FredXX to Rot Speed: "You are still an idiot and an embarrassment to your country. No wonder we shipped the likes of you out of the British Isles. Perhaps stupidity and criminality is inherited after all?" Message-ID: |
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Lonely Psychopathic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert!
On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 12:18:37 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rot Speed,
the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: Bring back Guy Fawkes He's a tad smelly now. So are you already, senile ****! -- Bill Wright addressing senile Ozzie cretin Rot Speed: "Well you make up a lot of stuff and it's total ******** most of it." MID: |
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Lonely Psychopathic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert!
On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 11:17:56 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: The fire was originally detected but no one Oh, no! Senile Rot has ALL the answers again! Why don't people just always ask YOU in the first place? Eh, senile Rot? -- pamela about Rot Speed: "His off the cuff expertise demonstrates how little he knows..." MID: |
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On Monday, 15 April 2019 20:48:58 UTC+1, Vir Campestris wrote:
On 15/04/2019 19:18, Andy Burns wrote: Adam, has you apprentice been playing with a blowtorch again? **** isn't it. They commented on the Beeb earlier that when the Nazis were thrown out the local Kommandant was ordered to destroy it. He didn't obey the order. Now some twit with a Gaulois takes it out. Or something else equally stupid. Andy Map of recent church attacks in France. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...&theater&ifg=1 |
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On 16/04/2019 22:55, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , Vir Campestris wrote: On 16/04/2019 19:32, Tim Streater wrote: Good Winky article here about the fire and consequences: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notre-Dame_de_Paris_fire (much better than the dribs and drabs on the BBC site). Thank you. A very good read. It looks like it may not be as bad as I feared - the stone vault is largely intact. Yes, I didn't realise it's a stone vault. I assumed that the ceiling would burn as well as the roof, leading to both collapsing and burning everything down below too. I was recently in the loft of Norwich Catholic Cathedral (you can go up the tower, and that's the access route. The tower is the highest accessible point in Norwich; the views are wonderful) The ceiling there is held up by timbers. Andy |
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